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Spring Game 19 Thread: Reds at Rays

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Edinson Volquez vs. Jason Hammel.  I'm on my way out the door to eat on a patio somewhere.  Enjoy the game!

Lineups after the jump.

Star-divide

Lineup

Cincinnati Reds @ Tampa Bay Rays

03/18/09 1:05 PM EDT

CINcinnati redsTampa Bay Rays
Willy Taveras - CF
Jason Bartlett ss
Chris Dickerson - LF
Carl Crawford lf
Joey Votto - 1B
Evan Longoria - 3B
Brandon Phillips - 2B
Carlos Pena - 1B
Jay Bruce - RF
Pat Burrell - DH
Edwin Encarnacion - 3B
Willy Aybar - 2B
Jacque Jones - DH
Gabe Gross - RF
Jeff Keppinger - SS
Gabe Kapler - CF
Ryan Hanigan - C Michel Hernandez - C

Game time is 1:05pm.  No Reds coverage today. I'm not sure about the Rays broadcast, but there is always Gameday.

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The top six spots in that order look good

but I’m keeping an eye on Jacque. God help us if he gets on any kind of a roll.

by bengalred on Mar 18, 2009 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Get ready, Cincinnati. Slyde has left his mother's basement.

"The latter part of a wise man's life is taken up in curing the follies, prejudices, and false opinions he had contracted in the former."

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 18, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

i thought those jokes went out of stlye.

"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.

by justin007000 on Mar 18, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did they?

What do I know.. I thought Indiana was still fighting the good fight against Daylight Savings Time.

"The latter part of a wise man's life is taken up in curing the follies, prejudices, and false opinions he had contracted in the former."

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 18, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

boy

those people were not happy that I was eating on their patio. How was I supposed to know they were home on a Wednesday?!?!

"How big IS your magic wand?"

by Slyde on Mar 18, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not on XM.

Astros lead the Yankees 1-0. So there’s that.

I’m gonna go look for Slyde on that patio.

"The latter part of a wise man's life is taken up in curing the follies, prejudices, and false opinions he had contracted in the former."

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 18, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Big ups to Booney

for coming clean to the ’Stros about that game of pickup Operation.

There's action across the street. It's Snowman! Take him!

by Man Mountain on Mar 18, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's better than Jeff Kent and the motorcycle lies.

It's all fun and games until someone gets herpes. - Fox 4 News

by PeteyHendrix on Mar 19, 2009 3:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

HAVOC in full effect in the first

WMT walks. Steals 2nd.
CDick single, WMT to 3rd. CDick steal 2nd.
Votto sac fly scores WMT, CDick go to 3rd.
BP strikes out looking.
Bruce grounds out.

Reds lead 1-0.

"How big IS your magic wand?"

by Slyde on Mar 18, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Tons o' HAVOC = 1 run

Good to know. I feel like the empirical data of this season will give proof to our little equation here.

by Brendanukkah on Mar 18, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAVOC!

T-Virus BB and a SB!!!!
Dickerson 1B and a SB!!!!!
Votto sac fly
Phillips K
Bruce GO

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Volquez not that effective in the first

2 walks and a single loads the bases, but Burrell gidp’s. Can you believe Burrell f’d up that opportunity?

"How big IS your magic wand?"

by Slyde on Mar 18, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Opportunity, can you believe it?

“What?”
You’re getting fucked up by Pat Burrell.

DAMN, I WISH HE WAS ON OUR TEAM!

by Brendanukkah on Mar 18, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

We mourn the loss of the many great jokes...

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 18, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

EDE BOMB!

…according to Fay. :)

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

MORE HAVOC!!! (with a HR)

EdE HR
Jones 1B (uh oh ….) then SB (double uh oh …)
Kepp GO / Jones to 3rd
Hanigan Sac Fly
T-Virus 1B
Dickerson 1B / T-Virus to 3rd
Votto FO

Reds up 3-0

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Dusty clearly

was impressed with him when he said, “That’s his stroke.” And, " he got a couple of other hits."
That really doesn’t sound good to me.

by fourrunhomer on Mar 18, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOW

We got as many runs with the BIG HAVOC that inning as we did with all the regular havoc

by fourrunhomer on Mar 18, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

If I may speak in Seinfeldian for a minute..

If we could just find a way to combine the this with the that……

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Mar 18, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

pricline.com is amazing

i just got a room at the hilton on Chicago’s magnificent mile for $64 after taxes.

"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.

by justin007000 on Mar 18, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Weekend or weekday?

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 18, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

sunday night

"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.

by justin007000 on Mar 18, 2009 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

"The latter part of a wise man's life is taken up in curing the follies, prejudices, and false opinions he had contracted in the former."

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 18, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

the recession is great for student traveling...

"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.

by justin007000 on Mar 18, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because it was marked down twice? I hear that one pretty regularly.

by ol Pete on Mar 18, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not how much you spend...

It’s how much you save!

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 18, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Volquez slips out of another one unscathed

Gross 1B
Kapler GIGK
Ensberg reaches on an EdE E …
Hernandez 1B
Bartlett infield 1B
Crawford K

Reds still up 3-0

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Any idea

how many errors that is for EdE in ST?

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 18, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's his third

"How big IS your magic wand?"

by Slyde on Mar 18, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish he would stop making them

I going to get real tired of fans acting like it is all his fault this year.

"How big IS your magic wand?"

by Slyde on Mar 18, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I won't hold everything against him.

But he’s gonna have to take the blame for either Patterson in ’08 or Tavares in ’09.

"The latter part of a wise man's life is taken up in curing the follies, prejudices, and false opinions he had contracted in the former."

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 18, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

If there's a bright side...

and if the box scores at MLB are to be believed, only one throwing error

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on Mar 18, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wish he would stop making them too!

Made from 100% recycled awesome,

by chandrathan on Mar 18, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, already in mid-season form..

Very nice..

Education is what you get from reading the directions. Experience is what you get from not reading them.

by snohio on Mar 18, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

TB bottom of the 2nd

load the bases up again. Don’t score. Reds lead 3-0

"How big IS your magic wand?"

by Slyde on Mar 18, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Dickerson is 2 for 2...

But it seems pretty obvious to me at this point that Dusty really, really wants Jones taking up space on the bench.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 18, 2009 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

that seems malicious

"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.

by justin007000 on Mar 18, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have the irrational feeling that Jones won't be coming north with us

He’s getting a ton of playing time in spring, but his simple lack of production has to be enough to leave him in Louisville at best. Surely Jocketty will step in, if nothing else.

by Brendanukkah on Mar 18, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd hope so

although, when you read the things Dusty says about the players in camp, don’t you get the impression that he has 100% of the say on how his roster is constructed and Walt doesn’t make any decisions? I do.

"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty

by BK on Mar 18, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get that impression too

And it scares the hell out of me.

I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....

by jch24 on Mar 18, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm terrified

Jones is going to his .350 the rest of the spring and get a spot on the bench.

by nycredsfan on Mar 18, 2009 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Quick 3rd

Phillips GO
Bruce FO
EdE GO

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Potato

I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....

by jch24 on Mar 18, 2009 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

You're a day late

"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty

by BK on Mar 18, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

as were many of the potato's

"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.

by justin007000 on Mar 18, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

remove that apostrophe

"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.

by justin007000 on Mar 18, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

and add an e?

I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....

by jch24 on Mar 18, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.

by justin007000 on Mar 18, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

That picture is over the limit!

Made from 100% recycled awesome,

by chandrathan on Mar 18, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't tell if you are trying to make fun of Dan Quayle for no reason

of if you don’t really believe that an “e” needs to be added to the word.

"How big IS your magic wand?"

by Slyde on Mar 18, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just amused

by justin making fun of someone else’s spelling errors.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 18, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

he won't tloerate them!

Made from 100% recycled awesome,

by chandrathan on Mar 18, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Volquez still not efficient... but getting it done.

Aybar 1B
Pena PO
Burrell Force Out (Aybar out at 2nd)
Gross 1B
Kapler K

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Another short one

Jones FO
Kepp GO
Hanigan FO

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Moses Malone almost approves

I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....

by jch24 on Mar 18, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm guessing it was 60-80% of a HR...

If we just keep him on the roster, he’ll be hitting those out in no time!

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 18, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't be such a stats geek.

I can smell that he’s due!

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 18, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel by the soda in his hand he's dew

Made from 100% recycled awesome,

by chandrathan on Mar 18, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone needs to clean up his doo from the batter's box

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on Mar 18, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can tell from the braids on his head

that he’s ’do

"Turns Out Craig Counsell Was Actually Best Baseball Player Of Steroid Era"
-The Onion 2/13/09

by RedinWrigleyville on Mar 18, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can tell by his Hüsker

that he’s Dü

"How big IS your magic wand?"

by Slyde on Mar 18, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

d'oh

Made from 100% recycled awesome,

by chandrathan on Mar 18, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER!!

I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....

by jch24 on Mar 18, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can tell by dusty baker's daughter that he'd do her

to stay on the roster

"Turns Out Craig Counsell Was Actually Best Baseball Player Of Steroid Era"
-The Onion 2/13/09

by RedinWrigleyville on Mar 18, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dayton Daily News'ed

It's all fun and games until someone gets herpes. - Fox 4 News

by PeteyHendrix on Mar 19, 2009 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Could Kepp be flat-out in jeopardy of going to Louisville?

And Cherry/AGon/BP comprise the middle infielders on the 25 man?

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on Mar 18, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jones can cover short!

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 18, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would guess that if Kepp goes to Louisville

then Rosales would make the team.

But Kepp is out of options, so I doubt he gets sent to Louisville.

"How big IS your magic wand?"

by Slyde on Mar 18, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

and he’s a Dusty fave. i think he’s one of the safest guys on the roster.

My millions are unconventional!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 18, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Burton takes the hill

Ensberg K
Hernandez FO
Bartlett GO

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

The Reds are in a hurry evidently (Marty would be proud)

Joe Nelson pitching

T-Virus FO
Dickerson backwards K
Votto GO

Still 3-0

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Owings line in a minor league game (per Fay)

4.1 IP, 9H, 7R, 6ER, 5K, 1HB (71TP, 51K)
Also he went 1-2 with a solo homer.

… so, based on the evidence, we can’t let Homer or Owings pitch to any minor leaguers this year. (Homer got roughed up in his minor league outing, too)

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I haven't been paying attention...

Does this mean that Owings has been sent to the minors, or can he do this without affecting his options?

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 18, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's just keeping him on schedule

As wallaman points out, Homer also pitched in a minor league game the other day. They’re just pitching then because it’s their day to throw. It might be that the return of Cueto and Volquez created a bit of a logjam with more big league pitchers than there are big league games.

by Brendanukkah on Mar 18, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I beleive it was his day in the rotation

so he was just getting his work in.

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Part of this

is because there are no split squad games this year.
why is that? Is it because of the WBC?

by fourrunhomer on Mar 18, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Yankees

are playing some split-squad games.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Mar 18, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yankees split squad:

Roids play the home games, Cleans play on the road.

It's all fun and games until someone gets herpes. - Fox 4 News

by PeteyHendrix on Mar 19, 2009 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

"Look, I just want the horse to have a good home or be food."

by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 19, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reds must be getting shelled this inning ...

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

According to Fay ...

Rays now up 7-3.

Bray gave up 6 (5 unearned …)

Still waiting on Gameday …

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bray might still be a little hurt

Or our defense might still be a little shitty. Either way, I’m starting to buy into the theory that Bray starts the season on the DL and Bailey and Masset are both in the pen.

by Brendanukkah on Mar 18, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Bailey will start,

whether it’s in Cincy or Louisville is anybody’s guess. He’s had a good spring and they don’t want to throw him off by removing him from a schedule to the ’pen.

by ken on Mar 18, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here we go

Bray on

Crawford backwards K
Aybar 1B
Pena BB
Burrell 1B (Aybar scores)
Kapler BB
Ensberg reaches on Kepp E (Pena scores)
Navarro 1B (Burrell, Kapler score)
Fisher replaces Bray
Brignac HR … (Ensbery, Navarro, Brignac score)
Johnson 2B
Ruggiano Fouled Out

ugh…

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys suck

My Game Day works fine.

Often wrong, never uncertain.

by sidnancy on Mar 18, 2009 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Reds 6th

Richar GO
Casillo FO
Rosales PO

Often wrong, never uncertain.

by sidnancy on Mar 18, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Next inning

The Rays AAA squad replaces the team with Percival pitching

Richar GO
Castillo LO
Rosales PO

Rays up 7-3

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Rhodes in the bottom

Olmedo GO
Zobrist backwards K
Sadler K

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes and no.

Both are Ray playing for the Rays.

Often wrong, never uncertain.

by sidnancy on Mar 18, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is indeed

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ray

He was a former Pirate it looks like.

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wheeler in

Jones FO (woohoo for more futility!)
Janish PO
Tatum PO

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Hi

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 18, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

and hi

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 18, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

howdy Pops

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

sup

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 18, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

n'much

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone call Tonya Harding

to handle Jacque Jams, please.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 18, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on, dude

You just know he’s about due.

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

for a DFA, yes.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 18, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh Hi!

I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot underage girls were FBI agents.....

by jch24 on Mar 18, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flores now pitching

Weber FO
Richard 1B
HAVOC!!!! … for the Rays (Richard SB)
Navarro BB
Brignac FO
Johnson GO

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn

Gomes K.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Mar 18, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Balfour does not live up to his name

McDonald Fouled Out
Nix K
Gomes K

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm out folks

hopefully someone else is fully capable of parroting Gameday in my stead. ;)

Reds record while I'm in attendance: 15-0 (lifetime)
Can someone score me some tickets? :)

by iamwallaman on Mar 18, 2009 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

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