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Spring Game 15 Thread: Reds at Twins

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Micah Owings takes the mound for the second time this spring against the Twins.  He faced them in his first start of the year back on February 26th when he threw 3 shutout innings, allowing 2 hits and striking out 2.  Based on his performance so far this spring, I would have to call him the front-runner in the race for the 5th spot in the rotation.  However, his lead is not so stable that he can afford to mess up anywhere along the way at this point.  Honestly, it's exciting to watch these guys compete so well with their jobs on the line.  It gives me hope that they can do it in games that count.

According to the press release, relievers available in the Reds bullpen today are RHP Edinson Volquez and RHP Mike Lincoln.  Surely there are more, but hopefully they won't need them.

The Reds will be facing left-hander Francisco Liriano.  Liriano's numbers look a lot like Owings' numbers this spring.  He's pitched 9 innings, allowing just 2 runs while striking out 7 and walking only a single batter.  Obviously the Reds have their work cut out for them tonight, which is why it's great to see Joey Votto's name back in the lineup again.  Welcome back, eh!

See the lineups after the jump.

Star-divide

Lineup

Cincinnati Reds @ Minnesota Twins

03/13/09 7:05 PM EDT

CINcinnati redsMinnesota twins
Chris Dickerson - CF
Denard Span - CF
Alex Gonzalez - SS
Alexi Casilla - 2B
Joey Votto - 1B
Jason Kubel - DH
Brandon Phillips - 2B
Justin Morneau - 1B
Jay Bruce - RF
Joe Crede - 3B
Edwin Encarnacion - 3B
Michael Cuddyer - RF
Jacque Jones - LF
Delmon Young - LF
Jonny Gomes - DH
Mike Redmond - C
Ryan Hanigan - C
Matt Tolbert - SS

Game time is 7:05pm.  No home audio, but there is Gameday.

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Ah, Douglas--

You edged me out! Hola’!

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on Mar 13, 2009 6:36 PM EDT reply actions  

It must be my lucky day

I just sat down and saw the thread. Maybe something good is in store for the evening.

by dougdirt on Mar 13, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

cumb'd

My millions are unconventional!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 14, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lol

Three is enough….When the season gets rolling around I honestly don’t know how I am going to have time to sleep.

by dougdirt on Mar 14, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sleep od overated

Why is obc so mean to me when I offer an introduction to a beautiful 25 year old Red's Cheerleader.

by Madville on Mar 15, 2009 6:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sleep is overated

I need to be publicly Justin’d

Why is obc so mean to me when I offer an introduction to a beautiful 25 year old Red's Cheerleader.

by Madville on Mar 15, 2009 6:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I liked it.

You made the “is” sound like a yawn.

It's all fun and games until someone gets herpes. - Fox 4 News

by PeteyHendrix on Mar 15, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i love

Dickerson, Votto, and Bruce facing off against a nasty lefty

My millions are unconventional!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 13, 2009 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Why aren't they sitting?

Ah, I see that Votto is back. Too bad Canadia lost so quickly…

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

they gotta hit against lefties sometime

and i’d rather they get their feet wet now rather than in April.

My millions are unconventional!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 13, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but we'll be sitting them in April.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

still

i’d rather see what they, especially Dickerson, can do against lefties. he hasnt hit them well historically and that probably will not change, but the only way it will change is if he works at it. like against a badass like Liriano.

and i doubt Bruce and Votto will sit often against lefties. they may get a day off here or there, but i think Dusty played them last year regardless.

My millions are unconventional!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 13, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hrm, Gameday or college basketball...

Either way, beer is required.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions  

keep an eye on both

and drink two beers while youre at it

My millions are unconventional!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 13, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good idea.

I’ll do my best.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

awwwww

i knew i liked you, Gray. (clanks bottles)

"Hey! Look at the kid in the sombrero!"

by obc2 on Mar 13, 2009 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

What are you drinking?

I’m working on the blanche de chambly I brought back from Montreal. Good stuff.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

the white of (chris) chambliss?

just because it’s french doesn’t make it any less dirty

"How big IS your magic wand?"

by Slyde on Mar 13, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

bud select

a svelte 99 calories/bottle.

"Hey! Look at the kid in the sombrero!"

by obc2 on Mar 13, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just picked up a 12 pack at the Kroger

Nice sell on teh bud select this week

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

8.99

best bargain in beerdom

"Hey! Look at the kid in the sombrero!"

by obc2 on Mar 13, 2009 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty Awesome...

Also, I’ve been going to bourbon house to watch UFC events.

THey have 2.75 domestic drafts. The cool thing is they come in 32 oz mason jars

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree.

For a buck more than bud light/budweiser, I can get a 12 pack of Yuengling. So much better.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can

we can’t

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there no Yuengling in OH?

I know it hasn’t made it to Chicago yet, but I thought it would have spread to Ohio by now.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

ash made a trip to pittsburgh last week and bought something like six cases of it

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not worth that...

But when I want a 12 pack of something for <$10, it’s the only thing I’ll consider.

I did have an incident a couple of weeks ago of getting drunk enough to drink PBR, but that’s the only time that’s ever happened…

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only time i've had pbr

was well after midnight, and obc was buying..

I remember it fondly

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

pbr is horrrrrrible

"Hey! Look at the kid in the sombrero!"

by obc2 on Mar 13, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

i really couldn't tell ya

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is is...

but it seemed like an okay idea after four pints of Dead Guy.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to mention this here

but EVERY BAR and stadium I went to in Florida had Yuengling on tap. It was kind of weird that they had it down there but not up here.

"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty

by BK on Mar 14, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

i dont know what all the fuss is about

i mean, its a good beer, but its not worth shooting your load over.

My millions are unconventional!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 14, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

shut up

I hate your face more than jch!

"How big IS your magic wand?"

by Slyde on Mar 14, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know what

this has gone unsaid long enough.

you are such a butt.

My millions are unconventional!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 14, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is

when most of the time in Cincinnati, your only choice is “Bud, Bud Light, or Miller Lite”.

"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty

by BK on Mar 14, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blatz

The beer that tastes like it name sounds!
1. Get your Blatz really really really cold
2. Smoke some good old fashioned Jamaican
3.Turn on the game
4. Turn down the sound
5.Go ahead and tape that Liberace poster on the ceiling
6.Now pop a top and get busy!
7. Don’t forget to sing along with Lee:

I’m from Milwaukee and I ought to know:
It’s draft brewed Blatz beer, wherever you go.
Smoother and fresher, less filling that’s clear,
Blatz is Milwaukee’s finest beer.

Why is obc so mean to me when I offer an introduction to a beautiful 25 year old Red's Cheerleader.

by Madville on Mar 15, 2009 6:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's nothing spectacular...

but when it’s priced as a domestic, I definitely pick it over the other cheap options.

If I want to pay for better beer, I don’t drink Yuengling. But when I go to the midwest, all of the domestic options are crap without Yuengling.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 14, 2009 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

we get bud select, which is pretty darn good

Made from 100% recycled awesome,

by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on Mar 13, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two K's, 3 up 3 down for Owings

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on Mar 13, 2009 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

2nd inning

1 k for owings

E5 – this cant be his first but its the first i can think of

by saboscork on Mar 13, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Gomes mans up, one zip Reds

it’s like he really wants to make the squad or something.

beef hoagie

by Colin Auscapee on Mar 13, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

pulling for, pulling at

same difference

"How big IS your magic wand?"

by Slyde on Mar 13, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unusually cynical doug

I see you as the group’s “scout in the straw hat,” a balance to the oldtimers like me and the saber-rattlers like Slyde. Any rationale behind the Dusty-JJ love? Or just a little Friday-night-playa’-hatin’?

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on Mar 13, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just a hater

tonight.

With that said, I am rather saber friendly. A lot more so with the major leagues, where its a lot more proven than in the minors where the variables are way to large to be worried entirely about numbers.

by dougdirt on Mar 13, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Got a real long lag here

who knows what havoc may be occurring. I hope everyone is safe.

beef hoagie

by Colin Auscapee on Mar 13, 2009 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

is this right?

my gameday for owings says 18 pitches, 18 strikes

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Mar 13, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

yep

gameday wouldn’t lie

except when it told me that it loved me….

"How big IS your magic wand?"

by Slyde on Mar 13, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

22 for 22

Gameday wants Owings to be the 5th starter.

by River Otter on Mar 13, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

its not

i cant remember how it works but ST gameday is screwy

by saboscork on Mar 13, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Not sure how he reached

but the Live Box Score shows a little BP Havoc, swiping 2nd off Liriano/Redmond.
Lag due to pitching change, Crain replaced Liriano and gets the final 2 outs of the inning— Reds by 1 mid 3rd.

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on Mar 13, 2009 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

BP HBP = OBP

"How big IS your magic wand?"

by Slyde on Mar 13, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

High OBP = OPP after the game!

Yeah, you know me…

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on Mar 13, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully...

OBP =/= CS.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on Mar 13, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it me, or are the Reds getting beaned a lot this season?

Could Dusty be coaching our young ’uns to lean out over the plate and take one for the team? A stealth HAVOC tactic?

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on Mar 13, 2009 8:05 PM EDT reply actions  

That's the way J-Roll rolls

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on Mar 13, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Owings tiring

He gave up a single in completing the 4th.
Take that, Hoss!

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on Mar 13, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions  

YEAH!

I say we stomp him! Then we tattoo him! Then we hang him! Then we kill him! And then we DFA him!

"How big IS your magic wand?"

by Slyde on Mar 13, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Don't forget quartering

I’m partial to quartering.

beef hoagie

by Colin Auscapee on Mar 13, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought you might be partial...

To impalement actually, judging from your name.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on Mar 13, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Havoc!

More run-killing from Team Havoc. Gomes really wants to make the team.

by River Otter on Mar 13, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

wow

how many havoc outs is that, slyde?

by saboscork on Mar 13, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

i getting ready for the regular season

im countin fingers, toes, teeth, hopefully it wont come to freckles

by saboscork on Mar 13, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

or hairs

"Hey! Look at the kid in the sombrero!"

by obc2 on Mar 13, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Six

Six caught stealings. Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

by Brendanukkah on Mar 13, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

During the regular season...

How about having a Havoc-Meter on the homepage?

It could be a dial, and the arrow would start pointing to Havoc as the number of times this season caught stealing, picked off or thrown out stretching exceed the number of times through the same number of games last season.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on Mar 13, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This could be a new stat.

The Havoc Index (HI) could be calculated for all teams. Clearly, our goal is to lead in this vital statistic.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Owings line

4 IP 2 H O R 4 K

"Hey! Look at the kid in the sombrero!"

by obc2 on Mar 13, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

i dont know about you

but my pener just went “mmmm”

My millions are unconventional!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 13, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm kind of glad to have Volquez back from the WBC

Without many pitches thrown by him.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on Mar 13, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

No Balls

Per Gameday, all strikes from Voltron that inning.

by River Otter on Mar 13, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah...

Gameday doesn’t like the balls.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Twins

are partial to them. Will any Reds pitcher throw a non-strike tonight? That would be, like, some kind of record

by River Otter on Mar 13, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one thought "partial to quartering" was clever?

I must have to spin a yarn about a Canadian hooker jerking me off while she ranks the Reds by OPS+ to get a rec around here, eh?

beef hoagie

by Colin Auscapee on Mar 13, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't get it.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on Mar 13, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

if i met a woman who could do that

she wouldnt have to jerk me off at all. im already there

by saboscork on Mar 13, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

begging for recs on a Friday night

you’re going to fit right in.

"How big IS your magic wand?"

by Slyde on Mar 13, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

jch is at Bogart's

and tHan is probably hip deep in chick flicks.

that’s gotta make it statistically improbably to get a rec tonight.

"Hey! Look at the kid in the sombrero!"

by obc2 on Mar 13, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, I'm still here.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could care less.

Or, I couldn’t care less.

Whichever one Man Mountain said is correct.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Mar 13, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not mounting any men...

but I can tell you it’s the latter.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey dude

the movies i have for tonight are burn after reading and whatever the name of that movie with dicaprio and crowe was.

Not the girliest of movies for me tonight…

I actually got a twitter about the game thread while I was eating at Cathay Kitchen. I told chan that the game thread was up so we had to go…she was not amused

Made from 100% recycled awesome,

by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked burn after reading...

If you don’t expect anything too serious, it’s a lot of fun.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also...

you missed a very boring game.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love it.

When “That movie with DiCaprio” is among the manliest movies you can claim….

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Mar 13, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's some kinda spy movie

i thought those were supposed to be manly?

I don’t usually watch them, but this one has Leo

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like Leo's flicks

I saw that a week ago. not bad.

its not “Catch Me If You Can” but it passed the time well.

"Hey! Look at the kid in the sombrero!"

by obc2 on Mar 13, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Catch me if you can

the movie where leo upstaged tom hanks and began his journey to becoming the best american actor.

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

he’s got a little paul newman in him.

you have to go rent newman’s flicks, trust me. amazing stuff.

"Hey! Look at the kid in the sombrero!"

by obc2 on Mar 13, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've seen plenty of Paul Newman's stuff

and I actually liked him much better after he got old…

I know it’s not a popular opinion, but the sting bored me to tears

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont see how

it was a great film. script, acting, soundtrack…it had it all.

"Hey! Look at the kid in the sombrero!"

by obc2 on Mar 13, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I watched it as part of a class at governor's scholar

we also watched shawshank and cinema paradiso

that’s been ten years ago now, so maybe i’d like it if i saw it again

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

GSP 1986, Lexington

Never thought I’d run into another participant. Not part of a class, but I remember seeing The Gods Must Be Crazy at the time.

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on Mar 13, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

cool

my campus was NKU

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

The alternative campus in '86 was EKU, I think-

maybe Morehead State?

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on Mar 13, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

The campuses were Centre and NKU my year

Since then they’ve had it at UK EKU WKU and Bellarmine that i know of

I’m just glad I didn’t have to spend the summer in Danville

Made from 100% recycled awesome,

by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bellarmine?? Yeeek!

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on Mar 14, 2009 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

How we lookin?

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Mar 13, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

And who the shit is Craig Breslow?

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Mar 13, 2009 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

BP has had a hit in every spring game until so far tonight

I wonder if Dusty will leave him in for another AB?

"How big IS your magic wand?"

by Slyde on Mar 13, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Well.....

blacks and latinos are better in that Florida heat. They’re warm weather people, you know.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Mar 13, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just as racist as when Dusty said it.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not really racist.

That was originally said by somebody else.

Our manager.

Seriously.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Mar 13, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone's a little bit racist.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah, i forgot about that

well hes black, so that is NOT racist

by saboscork on Mar 13, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Attributing it to his race?

That’s racist.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm

that does seem like something he might do

by saboscork on Mar 13, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who is Kevin Barker?

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Not Some Dude.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on Mar 13, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strike That

Still no non-strikes from Reds pitchers. Either Voltron and Owings have pinpoint control tonight, or the Twins are swinging at everything.

by River Otter on Mar 13, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

We should not have let Jeff Francoeur

get near that transmogrifier.

beef hoagie

by Colin Auscapee on Mar 13, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Cloned

Just keep that away from Dusty. He probably loves Francoeur’s approach at the plate.

by River Otter on Mar 13, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

ST gameday

doesnt record pitches. they are doing well just to give you the outcome of the AB. so dont pay any credence to the pitch counts.

My millions are unconventional!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 13, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's Comedy

The Comedy Central dude just retired the Reds in order

by River Otter on Mar 13, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

And we had J. Jones...

Pitching to J. Jones and getting J. Jones out.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on Mar 13, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's Surprising

That the Reds’ J. Jones made an out

by River Otter on Mar 13, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a game of failure

some are more adept at failing than others.

beef hoagie

by Colin Auscapee on Mar 13, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, this game is boring.

It doesn’t help that GD seems to be updated about once every inning.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I told 'nukkah this evening that I'm about tired of spring games already

I’m ready for real games that mean something and are on TV or the radio.

"How big IS your magic wand?"

by Slyde on Mar 13, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm ready for about two months of games that mean something also.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on Mar 13, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Rec'd

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by PeteyHendrix on Mar 14, 2009 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nukkah's reply....

"It’s OK, Spring Training Votto be over soon. I can’t take any Mor(neau) myself. Regular season Gomes will be starting anytime.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Mar 13, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

"

(forgot the close quote)

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Mar 13, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a lot of bad puns.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not as many as...

The thread discussing whether Votto was the next Todd Helton.

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on Mar 13, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see any puns in that sentence.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

or

the Reds catchers thread

by fourrunhomer on Mar 13, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes it is :-)

so why wasn’t it rec’d?

I took care of that for ya blee

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brandon Wood!

/nukkah’d

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by BLee2525 on Mar 13, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have we won yet?

No? Well, at least Volquez is in.

by ken on Mar 13, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

He sucks.

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by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

No Balls Update

If I’m reading Gameday correctly, Owings and Voltron have thrown a total of 38 pitches through 7 innings. Maddux would be impressed.

by River Otter on Mar 13, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Or the Opposite

But it’s the only interesting aspect of this game

by River Otter on Mar 13, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you kidding?

The Reds have to win this one to keep pace with the 1st place Braves!

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on Mar 13, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's as dramatic as the last week of the season!

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, since that week includes Fan Appreciation Day...

You stand about a 5 in 39.665 chance of going home happy…which will be a nice respite from the preceding 2 months of emotional flatulence.

Willy Mays Taveras, if your OBP isn’t over .335 this year, I’ll kill a kitten.

I’m serious. I’ll kill a kitten.

Do I look like I’m fuckin’ kidding?!?

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by PeteyHendrix on Mar 14, 2009 3:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

So what's going in the Havoc Index?

Caught stealing, of course. Anything else?

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by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Lincoln is in.

One pitch, one groundout.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

According to GD...

three pitches, three groundouts.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I see.

That’s almost certainly incorrect. They only record one strike if there’s a hit or a groundout/flyout.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

They do record three strikes for a K

and four balls for a walk. But otherwise, one strike per out or hit.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

3 pitches, 3 outs. The no balls streak remains alive.

by River Otter on Mar 13, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

39 Pitches

Thrown by Reds pitchers through 8 innings.

by River Otter on Mar 13, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

And yet nobody has pointed out that the balls on GD

are blue?

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by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Heh

Although they’re also blue when they’re “in play.” Go figure.

by River Otter on Mar 13, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are apparently not played

well.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean...

until tomorrow?

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he plays

Was hoping to see him get more time in ST, considering there’s a shot he could be back up this year. It seems like frailty is the one Taveras weakness we haven’t discussed.

by ken on Mar 13, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

How is that a weakness?

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ghost?

I thought Stubbs was sent to minor league camp. Perhaps I don’t understand how that works.

by River Otter on Mar 13, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zzzzzzz...

And Adam Dunn's spirit, ranging for revenge / With Ate by his side come hot from hell, / Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice / Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war...

by Paul Householder on Mar 13, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Pedro Viola

is NASTY. I saw him pitching in the WBC and was very impressed with his stuff. He reminds me of Liriano actually.

by BruzFan on Mar 13, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Vote Pedro

And Voila, he keeps the streak going. 44 total pitches for the game, with no balls thrown

by River Otter on Mar 13, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure

if anyone here has mentioned this but Fay reported that the rotation is going to set up
Harang
Volquez
Arroyo
Cueto

Nothing shocking but semi makes it official

by fourrunhomer on Mar 13, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

The only mystery was the fifth guy...

Now, if we are going to a four man rotation, that’s news.

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by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

In years past

 I would have almost been for that. But, this year we finally have a decent staff.

by fourrunhomer on Mar 13, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

30/30 said Edinson was starting OD!

by ken on Mar 13, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

WRONG!

"Hey! Look at the kid in the sombrero!"

by obc2 on Mar 13, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dusty had named

Harang as the OD started the first day of Spring Training, if not before

by fourrunhomer on Mar 13, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry...

but i’m kinda upset about that. Volquez should be getting the Opening Day start. His 2008 was better than either of the 2 seasons Harang had as our de facto Ace.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Mar 13, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

but what about his spring?

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

no sense putting that pressure on the kid

Opening Day is bonkers here. Let EV ease into the #2 slot.

"Hey! Look at the kid in the sombrero!"

by obc2 on Mar 13, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

plus

i’ll be at the second game

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can be seen there also!

at least for seven innings…

"Hey! Look at the kid in the sombrero!"

by obc2 on Mar 13, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

depends on the weather

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hate the cold

i retreat for warmer locales once i start shivering.

"Hey! Look at the kid in the sombrero!"

by obc2 on Mar 13, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hope that was you explaining my comment

because i already knew that

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh

its just a ceremonial thing. Harang is the salty vet and he’s started, what, 3 straight opening days? im more worried about how 1-8 in the lineup is gonna look, i dont care so much who’s slotted in at 9.

My millions are unconventional!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 13, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree that it's a ceremonial thing....

but that’s the best argument for why Volquez should be starting. Best ERA by a Reds’s starter since 2002, most Wins by a Reds’ starter since 1995. He earned the nod.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Mar 13, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

its a valid point

statistically you’re correct. plus, i’m not thrilled with EV starting a night game here in Cincy in April. Brrrrrrr. But i dont want him to get a big head as being the #1 Guy. Next year? Different story.

"Hey! Look at the kid in the sombrero!"

by obc2 on Mar 13, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh im not arguing

i honestly dont care either way who starts game 1. as long as he starts game 5, 10, 15, 20, 25…that’s what im most worried about.

My millions are unconventional!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 13, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that

if he starts game 1, he would be scheduled to start games 6, 11, 16, 21, 26, and so on.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

with early off games

it might be 1, 5, & 9.

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Mar 13, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

oooooohhhhhh good

thanks for clearing that up guys. srsly.

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by Charlie Scrabbles on Mar 13, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm all for Harang

starting on opening day. i understand he had an off year, and Volquez had a great year. But I think Harang has earned his spot in the rotaion.

by fourrunhomer on Mar 13, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAVOC

Not sure if anyone realized this, but if Owings makes the rotation, look was it spells out.

H arang
A rroyo
V olquez
O wings
C ueto

by BruzFan on Mar 13, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

If daedalus had posted this

i would point out that the same thing was posted on the main page last week…

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's your point?

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dunno

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

So I figured.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

figured

someone already beat me to it, i just realized it wen someone above commented on Fay confirming the top 4 in the rotation. not trying to copy anyone. sorry.

by BruzFan on Mar 13, 2009 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

btw

for whatever reason, i find your sig line hilarious

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're a pain in the ass

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

uh huh

there’s a dude on the Ohio website who posts as “Super Beef Hoagie”. i see a challenge!

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by obc2 on Mar 13, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't take liberties with the source material

but thanks for the heads up, I have been contemplating a new sig line ennyhow

beef hoagie

by Colin Auscapee on Mar 13, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

no worries

it really is interesting

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice pitching from the REDS tonight

I like no BBs, especially from Volqswagon!

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Mar 13, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone here know a lot about shoes?

I found some kind of italian shoes at the mall tonight that had leather rubbed with Lemon Oil. the brand name was polikinos or something like that. i am trying to google them to see if I can find them cheaper online.

I can’t remember the exact brand name though. If you guys know please tell me!

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Manly!

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Mar 13, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope, that wasn't it

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking of starting a shoe store for men.

It would be a fancy men’s shoe store: men’s shoes for special occasions, like weddings or lying around the house.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

why is it everything I type

you have to make fun of me?

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to call it Shoe-la-la

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not going to lie to you

I want all of the credit and none of the blame.

"How big IS your magic wand?"

by Slyde on Mar 13, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

knock knock

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who's there?

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by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

KGB

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

KGB who?

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by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

/slap

KGB asks the questions!

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

KGB waits for no one!

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better than the superbowl episode?

That one is still my favorite.

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by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was apparently very quotable

because it seemed like all of my facebook friends had a quote from it as their status this morning

and I’m still looking for a Golden Ticket Idea

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leonardo DiCaprio....

Italian shoes with lemon oil…..

You make it too easy.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Mar 13, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did now.

Wow.

I always thought that was a bit of joking on both sides. Apparently not.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Mar 13, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which game thread?

I’ve been missing those…

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by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

This one

Look for Battlestar Gallactica

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uhh, wow.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am inviting you non helpful people to suck it

google tells me the brand name is pikolinos

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

What did you want, for us to google it for you?

How incompetent are you?

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by Gray on Mar 13, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was struggling with the google

but i finally found them

I thought maybe you people would know about lemon oil shoes…

i guess i was wrong…

Too bad Madville isn’t here tonight…he’s cultured

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by chandrathan on Mar 13, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

You Rang ?

Culture is so oversold these days.

Who the fuck is winning this game anyway?
Fucking pitching matchups are nice about 4 or 5 times a year, the rest of the time I want Large Havoc.

Why is obc so mean to me when I offer an introduction to a beautiful 25 year old Red's Cheerleader.

by Madville on Mar 13, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, you are SOOOOOO in the wrong thread, dude!

All you have to is go to a Men’s Health-type website, and you’ll get allllllll sorts of help.

I wanted to post a snarky funny right here, along with a picture or link…but I reaaaaaallllly don’t wanna do that search – ew – especially not on my wife’s computer!

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by PeteyHendrix on Mar 14, 2009 3:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is an odd question...

Does anyone know where I could go to read a play-by-play account of a game, in chronological order, with no spoilers? As in, I could read the story of the game, PA by PA, without having the score revealed to me until I get to the end?

I would find this enjoyable on those west coast nights when I can’t make the time to watch a game that’s already concluded by the time I get home, but I still would like to at least spend a few minutes reading how the game unfolded, with all of its ups and downs.

Anybody? Does it exist anywhere? Am I the only one who would ever use such a feature?

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by PeteyHendrix on Mar 14, 2009 3:53 AM EDT reply actions  

If you don't mind parsing through some XML

you can look at the raw gameday files. They’re kind of a pain to read through though.

"How big IS your magic wand?"

by Slyde on Mar 14, 2009 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I could make that work.

Is there a better way for me to get to a certain day’s link beyond bookmarking this link and then altering the url?

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by PeteyHendrix on Mar 15, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

the best I can say is

if you start here, it will get you to the start of every month. Click the month, and then the day, and then the game. When you get into the game, click the inning folder and that’s where the inning by inning play-by-play is.

I think I might be able to whip something up in excel fairly quickly that will allow you to key in the game and read the play by play in a spreadsheet. Any interest in that?

"How big IS your magic wand?"

by Slyde on Mar 15, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is the worst conversation of all time

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by chandrathan on Mar 15, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

well

now that you are involved it is.

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by Slyde on Mar 15, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Any suggestion s to where I could go to get the in-progress WBC USA game

so I can catch up without spoilers?

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by PeteyHendrix on Mar 15, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, let me help you out, chan...

Cheeseburgers! Paradise! Slyde, yes, I would be very interested in said excel spreadsheet. Flipflops! Juicyfruit!

NOW it’s the worst conversation ever.

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by PeteyHendrix on Mar 15, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

This seems to work pretty well, actually.

Thanks, man.

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by PeteyHendrix on Mar 15, 2009 3:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the problem is the "no spoiler" requirement

Game threads at blogs and forums do play by play as it happens, and if the discussion is not threaded, it will be strictly chronological with no spoilers in the thread. (They do game threads at RedZone, and Trent used to play by play at his blog.) The problem is that they’re likely to post the results above it, either in another thread as as the title to the game thread.

Which is the same problem with the play by play at ESPN, etc. You have to get past the box score to get there.

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by BubbaFan on Mar 14, 2009 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

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