Spring Game 5 Thread: Yankees at Reds
by Slyde on Mar 1, 2009 12:30 PM EST
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Cincinnati Reds vs. New York Yankees
3/1/09 1:05 PM EDT
| New York Yankees |
Cincinnati Reds |
|---|---|
| Brett Gardner - CF | Darnell McDonald - CF |
| Derek Jeter - SS | Adam Rosales - SS |
| Mark Teixeira - 1B | Joey Votto - 1B |
| Alex Rodriguez - 3B | Brandon Phillips - 2B |
| Robinson Cano - 2B | Chris Dickerson - RF |
| Xavier Nady - RF | Jeff Keppinger - 3B |
| John Rodriguez - LF | Yonder Alonso - DH |
| Cody Ransom - DH | Norris Hopper - LF |
| Kevin Cash - C | Ryan Hanigan - C |
Today is Aaron Harang's first start against someone other than his teammates. Since it's a travel game for the Yankees, I imagine he'll only see the stars that are playing in the WBC. Even still, there should be a couple of tough bats in the lineup to challenge him.
The Yankees are throwing 26-year old Mexican Alfredo Aceves out on the mound. He made 4 starts with the club last year, going 1-0 with a 2.40 ERA. I think the Reds can take 'em.
I'm not certain, but this may be our last chance to see the Reds players who are participating in the WBC (unless last night was). So, enjoy this lineup while you can, but look forward to seeing more playing time for players like Drew Stubbs, Chris Dickerson, Chris Valaika, and Todd Frazier.
Today's game is airing on 700WLW, the last such game until next weekend. So, listen while you can!
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Do you think we might see the WBC players after the tournament is over?
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canada and venezuela will be out after the first round
but we’re not gonna see volquez, cueto, or havoc until april.
you think?
The final game is March 23, isn’t it? That leaves a whole week of spring training left to go.
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Wait. So you think that Italy and the US are the teams from Pool C going ino the second round?
An interesting prediction.
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
no, i got italy and mexico mixed up
same flag, anyway, except for the eagle.
my picks – pool A japan korea, pool b mexico, cuba, pool c usa canada, pool d DR puerto rico
then japan, cuba, usa, DR
japan DR final game
not that i’m not rooting for USA, cuz that’s my tribe.
if usa doesn't win i want the Domican to win
simply because of Cueto and Volquez.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
Interesting
Im excited to see his stuff
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by The Crushinator on Mar 1, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
He must be super fast
to pitch it in and run behind the plate to catch it.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
interesting
im looking forward to seeing some Alonso and Stubbs.
"Hey! Look at the kid in the sombrero!"
Yeah, I don't really know why Darnell McDonald has been getting more playing time than Stubbs
by Brendanukkah on Mar 1, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
Remember that Yonder was training with A-Rod? Dusty does.
“That’s one reason I’m playing Yonder today,” manager Dusty Baker said. “He’s DHing so A-Rod can see him play.”
Well good. So long as A-Rod can see him. Oh, and I guess you can take a look at him too, huh? No? Just A-Rod? Alright, then.
Wow brendan you got a bee in your bonnet today!
Show no mercy brother!
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by The Crushinator on Mar 1, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
maybe
alonso could do something to try and ya know disassociate himself from a-rod
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by chandrathan on Mar 1, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
Or you could invest in one of these
I love me some XM
"You never pass up an opportunity to talk to a woman in a red dress." -- Buck O'Neil (1911-2006)
I know the weather in Sarasota is supposed to be kind of nasty
Any word on whether the game is delayed at all?
I don't think so
Yankees blogger Pete Abe wasn’t sure we’d have baseball today this morning, but now says the weather has cleared. The teams did not warm up on the field, but they are planning to play the game as scheduled.
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He says...
…the Reds fans gave Jeter a big hand when he stepped to the plate.
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That's what Fay says too, but it's good to double check
The commenters raise a good point that this game should be worth listening to just to hear Marty talk about Bowden. “Could be a classic.”
Jesus Christ on a Crutch
Satanic Corporate Megawhore ClearChannel doesn’t allow streaming outside of the United States. Blow me ClearChannel, you fucking douchebags.
So is Gameday off
or did Harang really give up 2 runs in the first while facing 5 batters on FIVE PITCHES?
it only counts 3 pitches for a K, 4 for a BB, and 1 for a ball in play
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
Shaky inning for Harang
After getting Gardner, Jeter gets an infield single to shortstop, Teixeira singles up the middle, A-Rod hits a double, and Cano singles to drive in Tex. Then Xavier Nady grounds into a double play (Rosales to Phillips to Votto) to end the inning.
Yanks up, 2-0.
Come on.
He was facing Jeter, Texeira, and A-Rod. Can you imagine how Nick Masset would be doing at this point?
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Tracy Jones
says Harang’s in the 85-86 mph range prior to today’s start.
"Hey! Look at the kid in the sombrero!"
Darnell McDonald strikes out (that coulda been Stubbs's strikeout!)
Rosales draws a walk, then steals a base. Wow, successful baserunning! Votto productively grounds out to move Rosales to third.
BP doubles to drive in Rosales, then Quickerson proves that he’s also Stickerson. 2 run belt!
Keppinger scrappily ends the inning. Gotta like our offense so far.
Chris Dickerson
The younger, better fielding, better hitting, more powerful, less expensive version of Willy Taveras.
sMarty spoke of how his basestealing "is a work in progress"
but sMarty thinks he’s fast.
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
Yeah that's the one thing he's behind Taveras in
Which on any other team would be a BFD, but on the 2009 Havoc™ creating Cincinnati Reds could lead him into a bunch of dumb outs.
Bounceback inning...
Harang has replaced Hanigan on the mound; Reds still lead 3-2
"You never pass up an opportunity to talk to a woman in a red dress." -- Buck O'Neil (1911-2006)
The wonderfully named duo of Ransom and Cash both ground out to shortstop
Mr. Rosales has been busy today.
Is he the sherriff on oooh old El Paso?
because it sounds like Rosales chased ’em down before they could take the money and run!
sorry, I’m still in spring training form myself.
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
"What goes around, comes around."
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Alonso leadoff double
Just mimicing his pal A-Rod
"You never pass up an opportunity to talk to a woman in a red dress." -- Buck O'Neil (1911-2006)
ooo this is rich
“He blamed the media” “He got his just dues”
“Until I close my eyes to go to sleep tonight, there is nothing that can happen to me to make me mad.”
“I have no compassion whatsoever for that man.”
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
i hope he never gets another job in baseball again
but i’m sure E$PN will pick him up as an analyst or something. esp. since they’re gonna be bleeding baseball viewers.
That fucking shit-bag
will be in a network of positions in prison alright.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
If he goes, E$PN will probably create a show
Inside the California Penal League with old Jimbo as host.
"in 35 years..."
no one he has lower regard for. “It’s probably a mutual admiration society”
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
There's a new Batman Cartoon, "The Brave and the Bold"
Diedrich Bader does the voice of Batman. You know, the neighbor in “Office Space.” Now that I know that, every time I hear Batman talk, I just hear, “Two chicks at the same time, man. That’s what I’d do.”
neighbor in office space?
That dude’s Oswald and always will be
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by chandrathan on Mar 1, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
Fuckin' A, dude.
"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty
by BK on Mar 1, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
This sMarty rant is an instant classic
Me loves his Bowden obit
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
From Clownboy
“The new lean, mean pitching machine, Aaron Haran.”
Promptly followed by a Bret Gardner line drive HR.
"You never pass up an opportunity to talk to a woman in a red dress." -- Buck O'Neil (1911-2006)
"We did tell you with a wind like today's that there'd be some like that"
IF 1B for Jeter to “Gonzalez- check that, ROSE-ales”
"You never pass up an opportunity to talk to a woman in a red dress." -- Buck O'Neil (1911-2006)
That's two infield hits to Rosales for Jeter
What’s the story? Is Rosales not fielding them cleanly, or are they just hit too far for him to make a throw?
Brett Gardner
is kinda of the Yankees’ Chris Dickerson.
It’s the day of the scrappy, hustling, speedy OBP guy.
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The big Texy hits into 6-4-3
Alonso says “I’m not just a hitter” and scoops the one-hop relay from BP
"You never pass up an opportunity to talk to a woman in a red dress." -- Buck O'Neil (1911-2006)
...yeah, he's just a hitter.
I guess Votto just got a good tan in Sarasota.
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
They look a lot alike from here
"You never pass up an opportunity to talk to a woman in a red dress." -- Buck O'Neil (1911-2006)
votto thrown out stealing, c dick gets a hit, bp scores
i don’t know what just happened on that last play – the outfielder hit keppinger when he was running or the pitcher or something and the pitcher was taken out of the game as a precaution and, well, it’s brantley. you never know what’s happening. three outs, though. i can tell by the commercials.
GD says:
Kepp’s hit deflected off the pitcher.
He left the game with an injured foot/ankle.
Reds fan for 40 years!
Brantley thinks C-Dick missed the H&R sign
He can’t imagine Dusty was stealing 3rd with a LH bat and the marginal speed of Jo-eh
"You never pass up an opportunity to talk to a woman in a red dress." -- Buck O'Neil (1911-2006)
still doesn't make sense
no reason to hit and run there with a speedy left-handed hitter at the play
"How big IS your magic wand?"
brantley'd
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by chandrathan on Mar 1, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
Brantley says, "The wind is blowing straight out"
I’m surprised it’s not blowing “flat-out.”
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
Brantley thinks NoHo is up there swinging for the fences
how can you tell?
basically it comes down to the fact that hopper doesn’t bunt anymore since teams know that he’s going to bunt…but apparently Hopper is the fool for doing that.
I can’t wait for the TV crew to come back.
"How big IS your magic wand?"
nope
but I also doubt he swinging for the fences. Bunts are only effective if the opponent doesn’t know they are coming. And supposedly because Hopper hasn’t bunted yet this Spring, he’s abandoned it completely. He had 4 ABs coming into today.
"How big IS your magic wand?"
or he is holding back
the secret weapon.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by swing for the fences
does he mean swinging for the outfield?
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
lol.
Rodriguez to Rodriguez to Teixeira to Jeter to Rodriguez. Oh yeah, it’s the 7-5-3-6-5 single play.
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
Oh, p.s.
Have you seen Howl’s Moving Castle? It’s on IFC right now, and I figured it would appeal to the steampunk in you.
Pfffff. Of course I've seen it. (Trivia: Most awkward non-date I've ever been on)
Besides Laputa: Castle in the Sky is far steam-ier.
(Howl has a more Victorian look, but Laputa has better gadgets.)
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
i saw that in the theater on dupont
that was a weird night. i only saw it because it was the movie that was starting at the time a date and i went to see “any movie there was.” i didn’t get it.
FLAT OUT SCRAPPY
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
the wind is
blowing up
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
PAINT THE TOWN RED
DRINK!
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
GOOD BYE
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
sorry i'll stop shouting to nobody
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
the piano in the grocery store i'm in is too loud and there's a buzz in my radio.
now i’m joining the crowd of “why isn’t this free online?”
Gameday's hung up
What’s happening?
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votto hit a home run
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
Both Votto and Dickerson?
Or is one of you mistaken?
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holy crap
What’s the record for home runs hit in a spring training game?
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didn't you ask that last night?
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
nah
I asked what the record was for home runs given up. Not the same thing!
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dickerson is up
c dick hit
c dick run
c dick hit and run
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
c-dick hit 2 home runs in one game
c dick on april 6th
8-7 yanks
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
Keppinger apparently earned us a run
when he decoyed the baserunner, then tagged him.
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
he is a flat out decoy
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
think cincinnati can use Arthur Rhodes as a decoy?
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
To shield Harang from the post-game spread?
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
which gives me an idea...
someone go to CC’s locker in the Yankees’ complex and give him one of these!
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
CoCo pitching
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
ch-ch-changes
barker playing 1B
nix in rf
denovia catching
stubbs in CF (who just miffed a play in center and cost the Reds an out)
Valika at SS
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
is that on purpose?
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
runners on 2nd and third
double for kevin cash. Brantley says the left fielder took a bad route.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
you left out the Satan
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by chandrathan on Mar 1, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
who's the LFer?
Still NoHo?
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thanks
We’re just starting the 6th inning on Gameday.
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hit and an RBI
10-7
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
i want Davey Johnson back
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
He's the best manager not in MLB.
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
bobby valentine agrees
but he’s just being humble
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by chandrathan on Mar 1, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
line drive to right
11-7.
Coco isn’t even SoSo
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
or brantley claims that it trickled out.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
I wonder if there's folks on RedsZone demanding that Denovia get a starting job
confusing him for Denorfia.
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
oopsies
I probably should’ve just replied to Justin’s post.
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
Coco's velocity is down today
says sMarty
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
I'm a little late to the party
How bad did Harang look this afternoon? Or, should I say, how bad did he sound since nobody can actually watch the game?
Gave up hits to all the Yankee stars
It sounded like his fastball was sitting in the mid 80’s. Either he’s not really warmed up, or he wasn’t trying. His second inning was better.
or so we hope
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
Thanks for the info
Didn’t he have a similar first couple of starts last year in spring training? I thought I remembered his command being off and his fastball being not very fast.
Brett Gardner
Pop up to 2B, out at 3B. Did BP drop the ball or what?
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homerun hit by some reds player
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
stubbs up
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
Jukich is pitching
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
on ur pitching mound,
steeling ur soulz
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
by Cy Schourek on Mar 1, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Brantley says some of the palm trees are
“blowing up”
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
But not with Leatherpants' cell phone.
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
au contraire
old jimbo’s phone might be blowing up on account of people like us calling him just to say “Ha, ha!”
WOW
That Paint the Town Red song is just awful.
Poorly written. Poorly sung. Poorly attached to marketing. Poorly chosen for marketing. And a waste of cash. And annoying. And totally off focus for the target demo.
Just awful.
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
the next time the cops come we're gonna run right towards them
how does that not work for marketing baseball?
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
National Endowment for the Farts
Paint this marketing campaign dead
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
who's the target demo?
Just wondering…
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Not "early adopters"
Most with significant male influences in their lives.
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
This should have been part of the demo discussion
But an “early adopter” is a technophile who has the latest gadget, is the first one in their social circle to try a new product, and is likely to be an “influential”, which is a person who advises their friends on gadgets and products and shows, and influences their friends’ decisions.
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
so since my family didn't get a DVD player until 2003
they would not be early adapters?
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
When were you introduced to pastuerized milk and presents on your birthday?
"Dr. Two-Brains has a strange name because he does have two brains but he's not really a doctor. He just steals cheese."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Mar 1, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
my girlfriend
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
Your girlfriend is a time?
/three pronged justin in this thread
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
have you ever read slaughterhouse 5?
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
what about monotheism?
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Unitarianism is whatever I want it to be
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by justin007000 on Mar 1, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
That's early adopters,
not early adapters.
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
It's a macromarketing term.
And it sounds silly.
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Off the top of my head
It would be strictly baseball fans in Cincinnati. So I am assuming a heavy percentage of males, mostly middle and lower class incomes, age range from 18-70.
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
that demographic listens to country music, does it not?
i mean for the cincy area? either that or “classic” rock?
I'd guess an average of 1.5 years of college
Beer drinkers, not wine.
Burger eaters, not sushi, or even lean chicken.
Mostly family men and their sons, or younger single guys.
Mildly electronic-interested: lots of PS2 machines, fewer Twitterers.
Mostly mutli-generational Ohioans.
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
do Cincinnati women not like baseball?
I think nationwide, over 40% of baseball fans are female these days – about the same as football.
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my girlfriend doesn't
she puts up with it.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
she's from cincinnati, lakota west grad
goes to school at pitt. We worked the same shitty job over the summer.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
It does seem like there are more female fans on the coasts
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there are more fans on the coast in general
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
I meant percentage wise
Mariners fans are about 50-50 male and female, and some polls show the Yankees have more female fans than male.
Amanda at RHM was really surprised the first time she listened to a Yankees game and heard we had a female announcer. Suzyn Waldman has been the Yankees announcer longer than I’ve been a baseball fan, so I didn’t even realize it was unusual.
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Mariner fans are different culturally in my estimation
due to Asian influences, some lack of outdoor activity due to crap weather, and a larger percentage of single women seeking social identity and trolling for men, and a larger percentage of single mothers using the male-oriented game as a tool to “male”-ize their sons in an easy way, especially to bridge multi-generational male influences that might be otherwise lacking.
But I might be talking a bit too much out of my ass here…not that I’m wrong. :P
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
Suzyn was much better as a beat reporter for the FAN
But John Sterling is just unlistenable, so I’m sure some of that rubs off on her. I give the Yanks a big thumbs up for hiring a woman for the broadcast booth, regardless.
"You never pass up an opportunity to talk to a woman in a red dress." -- Buck O'Neil (1911-2006)
I think that aside from familial influences,
single, outspoken women can choose a rooting group to be part of to define, in part, their social identity. This would occur more often in a metropolitan setting with fewer social societal restrictions.
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
that's just bizarre
there are more single women in large cities. it’s that simple. it has nothing to do with outspokennes or some attempt at social identity. the ballpark is simply another place to go for happy hour, and people like to be outside.
it has nothing to do with outspokennes or some attempt at social identity.
I believe that single women gravitate to metropolises, and that’s nearly impossible to factor out…if I’m even making sense.
the ballpark is simply another place to go for happy hour, and people like to be outside.
I find this to be a very metropolitan view. Not many single women go to Reds games to drink with their friends and pick up guys, whereas I believe this to be a common sight at Cubs and Mets games, and to a lesser extent, Dodger games.
And I would say that women may pick a team to root for as a way to identify themselves, not just to join a larger societal group.
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
I think young people in general gravitate to metropoli
And a lot of sports fans are young women. Title IX means they grew up playing sports.
To be honest, I think a lot of the reason the Yankees fanbase is so female is because of Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez. They are good-looking men, and women like to watch them.
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Not a totally related story.
So, in college I was good friends with a lesbian Yankees fan who was actually very much a misandrist. Her roommate once had a male friend come and hang out in their room and she freaked out.
Hence my utter bewilderment when she told me how much she loved Derek Jeter. He looks exactly like a giant penis. I still don’t get it.
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
LOL
I don’t think you’re allowed to be a lesbian if you don’t like baseball. ;-)
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wow, I just looked up misandry
I never heard that word before. I guess that its a good thing I’ve never had to deal with it
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
right - young, educated people
the higher the education level in people, the more city-oriented, the later in life they get married, the fewer the kids, the more liberal, etc. it doesn’t have anything to do with gender.
and good point on title ix.
arod used to be good looking. now he’s kind of gross.
The relevant question is how many women in Cincinnati listen to the radio broadcast.
Football gets a polling boost from women who watch one game a week, often with their spouse. I would wager that fewer than 20% of the WLW spring broadcast audience is female.
But I don’t have any numbers in front of me.
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they don't have the attention span for it
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
it wasn't meant to be serious
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
i appologize
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
I'm starting to get a little peaved.
There are plenty of girls with baseball-fan significant others who never get into baseball – like justin’s girlfriend. Lots of my friends got into it as softball players, or because their parents loved the game.
Even when women are into baseball because a boyfriend or husband is – they STILL LIKE BASEBALL. I think that your assumptions are unwarranted.
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by andromache on Mar 1, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
my girlfriend will watch baseball, like she goes to games for fun
but her passion is college basketball, she understands basketball at a level I never will. She wants to be an actuary and love stats, and has can list off the statistical studies of basketball, the way slyde can talk about baseball.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
my mom actually taught me more about baseball than my dad
my mom grew up at Old Comisky, and Sportsman Park in St. Louis. My dad has umpired amatuer baseball/softball as a second job since before I was born, so during the spring he wasn’t around when baseball was on TV, so I watched a lot of baseball with her as a child. I grew up on the Braves, Cubs, White Sox’s, and Reds, because of TBS and WGN.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
it was an older woman who got me into baseball
Not my mom, but a friend about my mom’s age. She was a fan since she was a little girl in Pittsburgh…because her aunt was a fan.
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my mother, my two sisters, and i are the baseball fans
no father in the family. grandfather’s influence on my mother. i think the four of us together are responsible for fifty baseball tickets a season.
it was something my mom and grandfather did togeather
he would take them out ot see Bob Gibson pitch. I was happy for him when the White Sox won the World Series.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
My friend has three daughters
All are baseball fans. Her son isn’t, and neither is her husband. The son prefers football, the husband only likes tennis.
My sister and I are baseball fans, but neither of our parents likes it.
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I'm making massive generalities
And sharing what I assume from a mass-marketing perspective. It may be inaccurate. It is not meant to piss you off, but rather as part of an intellectual discussion, and to more clearly answer questions directly posed to me in this thread.
I am passing no judgments, and mean no insults. If this is too controversial a subject, I’ll stop discussing it…but I think that would be a shame to say.
And I agree that most folks (not just women) get into baseball due to familial influences, which is why I specifically excluded that influence in a previous comment.
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
Why are single women 'seeking a social identity?
While single men are just enjoying a great game?
The way I see it, you’re using unfounded, and quite frankly, somewhat bizarre stereotypes to try to argue that even though women do make up a significant (though not majority) portion of baseball fans – advertising should not consider them an important part of its audience.
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I think baseball is trying to appeal to women
There’s no other explanation for the plethora of pink baseball caps and shirts at the MLB store.
And why not? They’re half the potential customer base. If they aren’t watching baseball now, that’s more reason to go after them, not less.
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Actually, I was only discussing women
Men, of course, and I’d wager far more often, pick a team to create a more social identity.
I don’t believe I’m unreasonably using stereotypes, but rather sharing my presuppositions based on demographic and psychological influences. You are welcome to disregard my presuppositions. But I ask that you take my comments in the spirit they are intended: a clinical and unemotional evaluation of market forces, not any type of misogyny. Cuz, WOW, do I love me smart women! And smart women who like baseball? That’s flat-out sexy.
As for advertising influences ignoring a minority female demo, I’d actually encourage it. It’s good business – because it’s efficient distribution of marketing resources in this specific context: The most difficult demographic to reach en masse in American advertising is 18-49 year-old males. They are clustered in tiny minority groups in almost every medium except sports broadcasting. The age for this demo is determined by Madison Avenue: a somewhat antiquated, yet still-clung-to pervasive concept says that those younger than 18 cannot make all their own buying/viewing decisions, and those above age 49 have mostly decided on brand loyalties and spending patterns. So to reach this group effectively, I would encourage the marketers to ignore the minority of female listeners, and focus specifically on the tough to reach 18-49 males with beer commercials. I would not have cutesy female announcers on my spots. I would go further to say that crude, male-centric humor would be very effective in this case.
Which is not at all to say that MLB shouldn’t be going after women. They should. And I think they should be heavily going after Asian women…and by that, I mean women and families in Asia. I believe the Reds should be fighting for a portion of the Kyoto TV market.
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
Do young men watch baseball?
There were a bunch of articles a few years ago, about how young men were forsaking sports for Nintendo and online entertainment. Even the World Series and the Super Bowl weren’t drawing them (compared to older viewers and young women). Has that changed?
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out of curiosity
have you ever spent any significant time in a major american city? and by significant i mean lived and worked in one for more than a year or so. and by time i mean within the last two decades.
if what you say is really in marketing textbooks, then it’s no wonder capitalism is collapsing.
I have spent significant time living and working in
Chicago, Orlando, and Los Angeles, which has been my home since 1996, where I work almost exclusively in mass media marketing and advertising. And what I am saying is not based at all on textbooks, but rather real-world experience.
And I was just offering my off-the-cuff, frank perspective on this issue, which I assumed I was being asked about because of my field, not randomly. And you’re free to ignore me, or discount my opinions.
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
it always amazes me
when people say they aren’t racist or sexist and then go spewing out racist or sexist ideas.
I'm sorry that I had this conversation.
I’ve learned my lesson.
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
these people are not looking for "social identity"
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Babes Who Love Baseball
Basegirl (Red Sox)
Bat Girl (Twins)
Bellyitcher (Cardinals)
Crawfish Boxes (Asstros)
Cursed to First (Red Sox)
Empyreal Environs (Red Sox)
Grady’s Ladies (Indians)
Her Rays
Just a Nats Fan
keep your expectations tiny
Lady at the Bat (Evil Empire)
A League of Her Own (Cubs)
MetsGrrl
Purple Row (Rockies)
Red Hot Mama
Red Sox Bat Girl
Seattle Marinerds
Serious Dismay Sports
Soxaholix (Red Sox)
We Heart the Reds
We’ve Got Heart
this is really hard to back up from either side
he could find a bunch of women who are looking for identity.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
i should have said that
i mean some men pretend to like sports so they can be “one of the guys”.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
and some men pretend to like sports to help them feel closer to their beloved numbers
"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty
by BK on Mar 1, 2009 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
the numbers never ask you to prom
just to get a free dinner and then hang out with their friends in the bathroom.
"How big IS your magic wand?"
want to talk about it big guy?
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
Identity is vastly overated
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by Madville on Mar 1, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
those blogs all suck :-)
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by chandrathan on Mar 1, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
holy cow petey
i can’t believe this conversation went on…
reading your comments i can’t see anything you said that was overly objectionable.
(i only skimmed a lot of it so if there is a really bad thing he said someone can enlighten me.)
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by chandrathan on Mar 1, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
that's because you live in a fucking makebelieve world where theres no such thing as sexism or racistm
and you are a fucking guy who’s never experienced sexism.
and the fact is you can’t even bother to read everything before you make your uninformed comment.
i quit this site.
bye. i’m sure none of you will miss me but you’ll all say derogatory things like you always do.
I would miss you
Don’t leave.
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she'll be back within the week
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by chandrathan on Mar 2, 2009 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
perhaps
is it safe to talk about baseball now? on this, a baseball site?
"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty
by BK on Mar 2, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
what's that?
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by chandrathan on Mar 2, 2009 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
Don't. There is strength in association without always agreeing.
"You never pass up an opportunity to talk to a woman in a red dress." -- Buck O'Neil (1911-2006)
by "Red" Moskau on Mar 2, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe they have a lower sMarty tolerance
"You never pass up an opportunity to talk to a woman in a red dress." -- Buck O'Neil (1911-2006)
El Nino Destructor singles to load the bases
Roar.
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
he does eath children for breakfest
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
/justin'ed
breakfest = a study break during which you watch Beerfest.
I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar
god i hate brantley's play by play
What inning is it, anyway? Even if he were fully capable of describing a game as it happens, it’s difficult not to zone out when his monotone cowboy voice drones on and on about things that are often wrong or things that are just stupid. I swear, I’ve never had to try so hard to figure out what the heck is going on in a baseball game. I mean, I was actually trying to listen to Francisco’s at bat and all, but I simply could not pay attention.
i actually enjoy his voice
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
The ole' Lefthander would mispronounce
and sometimes confuse LF and RF, but he always made sure he’d circle back and make sure you knew what was going on. In Brantley’s defense, most play-by-play teams take the job very casually in early spring training games.
"You never pass up an opportunity to talk to a woman in a red dress." -- Buck O'Neil (1911-2006)
Clownboy really has no defense...he's not very interestig, doesn't call the game dynamically and has slowly become sMartyanized
Perhaps a a flatbed truck loaded with cadavers will explode in front of a Star Trek convention. One can only dream and hope.
which pitcher
gave it up?
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thanks
Christian Garcia is probably hoping to be promoted to AA this year.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
craig tatum hit a grand slam
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
12-11 cincinnati
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
Uhh, 19 runs scored since I've been gone?
And we’re winning! Yes!
"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty
We were winning 3-2 when I left
"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty
by BK on Mar 1, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
yeah we have brendan
we don’t need you. Slyde has been in and out too
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
screw you
"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty
by BK on Mar 1, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
i love you BK
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
Jordan Smith
on to get the save with a 13-11 save
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
brantley's non-sequators don't always make sense.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
well in his defense
i do butcher the english language
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
cool story jeopardy contestant
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by chandrathan on Mar 1, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
this one belongs to the Reds
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
what moron invented those round headphones for your ears?
my ears are killing me after listening to that game with those things.
Meanwhile, in the game on TV here
The Mets slaughter the Astros, 13-1.
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i'll be seeing the Reds and Astros week after next
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
Corey Patterson is 0 for Life
/fixed
"Sometimes I listen for Griffey’s infectious laugh or Dunn’s humor and wit. But they’re gone." - Dusty
by BK on Mar 2, 2009 8:39 AM EST up reply actions
yeah
he’s gonna do that. I don’t care about Ks from a lead-off hitter though. Not that I care about Ks in general anyway.
"How big IS your magic wand?"
Did you just hate that episode of Sesame Street or something?
“Brought to you by the letter K.”
Meh.
Is the backwards K worse than the swinging K?
"You never pass up an opportunity to talk to a woman in a red dress." -- Buck O'Neil (1911-2006)
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