Rest of Reds Top 31 prospects according to BA handbook
I'm quite the happy camper today, as I arrived home after running some errands to find the Baseball America Prospect Handbook in my mailbox! For some dumb reason, they have 4 AL guys on the cover...Matt Wieters, David Price, Neftali Feliz and Travis Snider.
Anyways, we've gone over the Reds top 10 prospects elsewhere, so I figured I'd share Nos. 11-31. Yes, since I ordered the book through Baseball America, they included ---- ABSOLUTELY FREE ---- a cheesy little booklet that has the 31st best prospect for every team. I almost fainted from excitement when I discovered it.
11. Daryl Thompson P
12. Chris Dickerson OF
13. Jordan Smith P --- First mention I saw of him was Reds Asst. GM Bob Miller referenced him as a good prospect in a chat last week. Heavy sinker stuff, induces tons of ground balls. Could fit in well at GABP.
14. Josh Roenicke P
15. Zach Stewart P
16. Ryan Hanigan C
17. Ramon Ramirez P
18. Matt Maloney P
19. Zach Cozart SS
20. Juan Carlos Sulbaran P -- This guy looks interesting. Teenager from Curacao who is set to pitch for the Dutch in the World Baseball Classic.
21. Dallas Buck P
22. Chris Heisey OF
23. Danny Dorn OF
24. Carlos Fisher P
25. Pedro Viola P
26. Sean Watson P
27. Robert Manuel P --- Pedestrian stuff, but dominated as reliever at AA. Hides the ball well, compact delivery. Reds got him when they traded Dave Williams to the Mets.
28. Craig Tatum C
29. Adam Rosales INF
30. Alex Buchholz 2B
31. Phillippe Valiquette P
That's the list. Thoughts? Obviously, we seem to like Danny Dorn more than BA.
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Only two LHPs besides Maloney
Pedro Viola and Phillipe Valiquette. That’s one thing that really struck me – the lack of quality left-handed pitching prospects in the organization.
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by cesarhernandez on Feb 9, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
I'm assuming the 4 AL guys on the cover are they because they are the top 4 prospects in baseball
not because of their league.
Was Jay Bruce on last year’s cover?
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
I know, I just think they should be fair
Give some love to the NL guys like Maybin or Bumgarner.
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by cesarhernandez on Feb 9, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
Hanigan's 28
so, I’m slightly surprised that he would be considered a prospect since BA usually gives up on guys at 25 or 26.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
Today's Reds minor league transactions from BA
"Cincinnati Reds
Signed: RHP Mark James, RHP David Shafer, C Humberto Cota, 1B Daryle Ward, OF Jacque Jones
Ward, 33, is just one season removed from a .327/.436/.527 line as a pinch-hitter for the Cubs. Not a bad pickup for a last-minute free agent purchase."
Shafer, you might remember, was dealt to Oakland in the Kirk Saarloos trade. He hasn’t done much since looking like he might be a solid RHRP during his time at Chattanooga. Last season in AA, Shafer went 0-1, 1.52 ERA, 1.45 WHIP. In 20 games and 29 IP, he allowed 22 hits and walked 24. In AAA, Shafer was 2-1, 5.06, 1.35. In 14 games and 26 IP, he allowed 19 hits, whiffed 15 and walked 17.
James is a former Brewers farmhand, who didn’t do anything exciting in two seasons after being drafted in the 14th round in 2005. A native of Whitney, Ontario, James pitched last season in the Cam Am League with the Quebec Capitales, for whom he posted a line of 4-3, 3.2. In 31 games of relief he allowed 50 hits in 50 IP, striking out 45 and walking 19 while allowing foes to bat .262.
Jones, Ward and Cota we’ve discussed before.
A quartet of former Reds signed elsewhere, some we noted before: Matt Belisle with Colorado, Elmer Dessens with the Mets, Eddie Guardado with Texas and Javier Valentin with Washington.
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by Thundering Turtle on Feb 10, 2009 12:19 PM EST reply actions
Thanks for the info
I like having Shafer back, and James looks intriguing. How old is he?
Is anyone else thinking that even though we got the player back, we still got shafted in the Saarloos trade?
"I like to think more in terms of him his in-scoring position percentage." - Dusty Baker (2009) regarding Corey Patterson's relationship with his daughter
James is 21.
He throws an upper-80s fastball and his best pitch is a mid-70s curve, which isn’t bad. He also throws a change up. He’s athletic.
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by Thundering Turtle on Feb 10, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
damn, I thought the Reds got Chuck James
who may have some upside.
And everytime Elmer gets mentioned, I am reminded of the most pointless 4-team trade in recent memory:
Traded as part of a 4-team trade by the Arizona Diamondbacks to the Oakland Athletics. The Oakland Athletics sent a player to be named later to the Toronto Blue Jays. The Toronto Blue Jays sent Felipe Lopez to the Cincinnati Reds. The Cincinnati Reds sent Elmer Dessens and cash to the Arizona Diamondbacks. The Oakland Athletics sent Jason Arnold (minors) (December 16, 2002) to the Toronto Blue Jays to complete the trade.
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
Felipe Lopez helped land us Gary Majewski and Royce Clayton!
Pointless? POINTLESS?!
by Brendanukkah on Feb 10, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
no, i think we felt that point very sharply.
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
Felipe, in part, landed us Bill Bray and Darryl Thompson
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by PeteyHendrix on Feb 10, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Knowing what we know now
I think I’d take Bray and Thompson over Dessens and Dumbo. Was The Trade actually a good deal in the long run?
"I like to think more in terms of him his in-scoring position percentage." - Dusty Baker (2009) regarding Corey Patterson's relationship with his daughter
by BK on Feb 10, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
I think we got the best of it
And stuck it to Leatherpants in the process.
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by PeteyHendrix on Feb 10, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
you cant really predict things like that
maybe lopez wouldnt have fallen apart if he hadnt been traded. maybe someone in cincinnati would have hooked kearns up with some HGH. who knows? but at this point I would say the reds got the slight edge
Lopez's falloff
was so sudden and dramatic. Players supposedly benefit from changes of scenery all the time, so it shouldn’t be a surprise when a guy suffers from the change. Especially one burned by family issues. Then again, correlation ….
Lopez did play pretty well for St. Louis last year though
by Brendanukkah on Feb 14, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Shows what a nurturing manager can do
Seriously, something in Washington must not have agreed with him. Didn’t they just fire their hitting coach?
Also, I meant “burdened” rather than “burned” … I think the Australia story entered my subconscious.
lopez's falloff
was more of a bunch of crappy seasons with one decent one somewhere in between
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by chandrathan on Feb 14, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
here's Fay on the list
damning with faint praise: “4. Chris Valaika, SS: A Reds insider called him Jeff Keppinger with more power.”
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 10, 2009 12:39 PM EST reply actions

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