The Red Report: Johnny Cueto
by Slyde on Feb 23, 2009 3:29 PM EST
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Today, we start with Reds sophomore pitcher, Johnny Cueto. Enjoy!
Fast Facts:
- Cueto was signed by Johnny Almaraz on March 8, 2004. Almaraz also signed Adam Dunn, Ben Broussard, BJ Ryan, Chad Fox, and Jason Larue. Good thing the Reds got rid of him.
- He is from San Pedro de Macoris, Dominican Republic, a city that has produced 76 Major Leaguers including former Reds Mariano Duncan, Tony Fernandez, and Josias Manzanillo.
- He was a two-time Reds Minor League Pitcher of the Year, winning the award in 2006 and 2007.
- In 69 minor league games, he posted a 29-15 record with a 3.28 ERA over 348.1 innings. He struck out 9.3 batters per 9 IP, while walking only 2.1 per 9 IP.
- He threw the first no-hit shutout in Dayton Dragons history during a rain-shortened 5-inning game in May, 2006.
- In his first career big league start in 2008, he became the first pitcher age 22 and under to strike out 10 or more batters in his Major League debut since Mark Prior in 2002. It was only the 11th time it had happened in the last 52 years.
- He was also only the 9th pitcher age 22 or younger since 1960 to pitch at least 7 innings in his debut and allow only 1 hit.
- He is the shortest Reds pitcher to throw at least 150 innings in a season since 5'9" Guy Hoffman threw 158.2 innings in 1987.
- He tied for the the National League lead in hit batsmen 2008 with 14, matching teammate Edinson Volquez and the Phillies' Kyle Kendrick.
- He will pitch in the 2009 World Baseball Classic for the Dominican Republic team along with Volquez.
Organizational History
Drafted/Signed: Was signed by the Reds as a non-drafted free agent, March 8, 2004.
Signed by: Johnny Almaraz.
GM when acquired by Reds: Dan O'Brien
Contract Status
MLB Service Time (as of Opening Day 2009): 1.0 year
Current Contract Status: Pre-arbitration, renewing one year deal.
Career Stats
Pitch Repertoire
Information courtesy of Josh Kalk's player cards at baseball.bornbybits.com.
Cueto throws four pitches: four-seam fastball, two-seam fastball, slider, change-up. He relies heavily on the four-seam fastball, throwing it 56% of the time in 2008 with an average speed of 94 MPH. He sprinkles in the two-seam fastball, using it a little more against lefties than righties. His slider is his number two pitch, throwing it 28% of the time, though he uses it much more frequently against righties than lefties. He throws his change-up much more frequently against lefties, as you would expect, and uses it mainly early in the count, probably because it's a newer pitch for him. His slider is his strikeout pitch and he likes to throw it more with 2 strikes than at other points in the game.
2009 Projections
RR Projected Wins Above Replacement: 1.66
Graphs
Under Construction. The Graphinator 3000 was not fully functional by the time this was to be posted. Once the graphs have been created, they will be inserted into this spot.
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by jacob brumfield on Feb 23, 2009 3:34 PM EST reply actions
The analysis appears about right from all 4 sources
Unless he can stay significantly more focused than last year, there’s no way he’ll hit double digit wins.
He might be better constructed emotionally to work out of the bullpen.
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Significantly more focused?
to get one more win?
Why are you so down on him? Seems like a pretty damn good 23-year old pitcher to me.
"How big IS your magic wand?"
Madville just thinks "some people" need to "know their place"
by Brendanukkah on Feb 23, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
i think he's talking about the black people again
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by chandrathan on Feb 23, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
uhh that's racist
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by BK on Feb 23, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
For the record I am not down on Johnny C
I just don’t see the upside that many others do. If he were to win 12 – 13 games and only lose 7 -8 – I would be absolutely thrilled. But I think it is a long shot. I believe the Reds could get 10 or 11 wins from Ramon Ramirez because he appears to have a better understanding of how to pitch, but obviously they coaches don’t agree with me, ergo they are morons.
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Johnny Cueto's stuff is 10 times better than Ramirez's
Ram Ram is also older than Cueto, so he has had more time to polish his (lack of?) stuff. What isn’t to like about a 23 year old, with solid command, who throws in the low to mid 90s with movement, has a nice change up, and a good slider?
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by justin007000 on Feb 23, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
well
17 of Cueto’s 31 starts last year he received 3 or fewer runs of support. He took the loss in at least 5 games where he could have gotten the win if the Reds had been able to score anything. This happens to every pitcher, but my point is that with a little more luck last year, Cueto could have been 14-9 instead of 9-14 and he wouldn’t have had to change anything about what he actually did as a pitcher.
"How big IS your magic wand?"
So you guys are saying that a projection of 8 wins is OK because he's 23?
Yes his stuff is way better than Ramon Ramirez but Ramon is a better pitcher at this point and I think he could win 10 -12 in 2009.
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no
I’m saying don’t pay attention to pitcher’s wins. They are not a very good stat.
"How big IS your magic wand?"
Ramirez threw just 27 big league innings
compared to Cueto’s 174. I really do no understand how you can begin to say that Ramirez was better. We will see how good Ramirez and his average stuff are the 2nd time threw the League.
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by justin007000 on Feb 24, 2009 8:56 AM EST up reply actions
I'm also concerned with Cueto
Only because when things start to go bad for him, they go BAD. Quick.
Maybe the “buckling down” instinct will come for Cueto, but I just like how Volquez reacts to getting in a jam a lot better than the way Cueto reacts.
I miss the old days of the internet when men were men, hot girls were middle aged men, and hot uderage girls were FBI agents.....
do you have proof of this go bad quick theory?
I can’t find any evidence that you aren’t full of it.
"How big IS your magic wand?"
Not a shred
Just the way I feel. Are you saying my feelings don’t matter? Not everyone’s an emotionless robot like you, ya know. :)
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I'm surprised about the lack of innings
seems like everyone wants him to get injured. Well, I know i don’t
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
Innings are that low because of age and regression
Fact is that most pitchers his age don’t reach 150 innings pitched. Doesn’t mean he won’t, just that history is not on his side – and it’s not just injuries, it’s also getting sent down or to the bullpen too.
"How big IS your magic wand?"
So, is there are way to see a projection..
…that would exclude such “worst case scenarios.”
"When is marshmallow season?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 23, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
If you're on a UN panel
and Colin Powell is delivering a report to you.
by Brendanukkah on Feb 23, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
It wouldn't be a true projection then
The worst case scenario is still a scenario to be considered. It may not be highly considered though. For instance, it could break down like this:
Best Case – 10%
Great Case – 15%
Normal Case – 50%
Bad Case – 15%
Worst Case – 10%
It all depends on how likely it is that the worst case happens. If 75% of all 23-year old pitchers who threw 175 innings the year before get injured and miss significant time, well then that’s part of the story, isn’t it?
BTW, if you want to view this more in a best case-worst case view, CHONE breaks it down by percentiles on his website.
"How big IS your magic wand?"
probably how quickly "the wheels fall off" during games
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by chandrathan on Feb 23, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
I don't see it
I think I found 3 starts where it looks like his wheels fell off during the game to the point where he was taken out of the game. I consider wheels falling off to be games where the pitcher was doing reasonably well before having an inning where everything went to crap. Is that a reasonable definition?
Here are the wheels fell off games:
4/13 – He’d given up 2 hits (both homers) for 5 innings to the Pirates. In the 6th he gave up a double, single, sac fly and homer in 9 pitches and was taken out at the end of the inning.
5/11 – This one may not qualify since he gave up 3 runs and was hit hard in the first inning. He then only allowed 1 more hit for the next 3 innings before giving up a single and back-to-back homers in 5th before being taken out.
7/9 – Allowed 1 run on 4 hits through 6 innings. Gave up 2 singles and double before being taken out in 7th.
Am I misreading your statement? Can you find other games where the wheels fell off? Otherwise, I think it was a just a case of a rookie pitcher learning his ways through the bigs. Not sure why that would turn him into a head case.
"How big IS your magic wand?"
really I was just going off of previous comments by Red Reporters
JCH
JCH Again
And I can’t really find any other instances…so apparently I got that from JCH
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by chandrathan on Feb 23, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
not really
but i think my water just broke
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by chandrathan on Feb 23, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, and I'll take your ERA bet Slyde
Volquez has the lower ERA this year.
Wagers?
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your sig has to praise me for a month if I win
and vice versa.
I think we should stipulate that if either pitcher throws less than 100 innings, the bet is off. It wouldn’t be fair if one of them was particularly abused by their manager. Is that reasonable?
"How big IS your magic wand?"
Fair enough
ashtoothpicknotmineIswearlovechild
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put me down for Harang
"aw....c'mon. That's suck! I heard Coldplay on WARM98" obc son(after watching the band win Best Rock Grammy)
He's kinda emotional and gets out of his game at times
but mostly I thought it was a clever retort to all those cases that Slyde was throwing around…
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Ah
Missed that. Apologies for my thickness.
by Brendanukkah on Feb 23, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
there is a joke there that would get me banned
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by chandrathan on Feb 23, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
good thing
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by chandrathan on Feb 23, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
I'm always
having to apologize for my thickness as well.
by fourrunhomer on Feb 23, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
This looks like a good place for a discussion
I get criticized for not factoring emotion into a player’s skills enough, but this is exactly why. Some players are good because they are emotional and other are bad because they are emotional. How am I supposed to know the difference, because I thought Cueto’s emotional output was intensity and I thought intensity was a good thing.
"How big IS your magic wand?"
i read a book the 26th man
about a Tom Shearn type pitcher. It was actually his diary of a season playing for the Indianapolis Indians. He was a very calm and cool guy, and he was criticized for it. When a mediocre pitcher is calm and cool he doesn’t care, but when a good to great pitcher (like Harang or Maddux) is calm and cool he is “in control”. Same thing about intense pitchers. When a bad pitcher is emotional he is “out of control”, but when a good pitcher is emotional he is “intense”.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Feb 23, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Carlos Zambrano's emotion = bad
Pedro Martinez’s emotion = good
It’s never going to be something you can quantify with numbers, you’re just going to have to see with your ears, son.
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Does PECOTA have "breakthrough" rates
or something that represents upside? I would think that his is relatively high. ZiPS has something on Harang and Edinson but not Cueto.
I love this, btw.
PECOTA pitcher cards aren't available
otherwise I’d tell you that answer.
"How big IS your magic wand?"
PECOTA
The pitcher’s cards aren’t out yet, true, but they still have pitcher’s breakout rates and improvement rates.
Cueto’s breakout rate (percent chance that his EqERA will improve by at least 20% from his 3 previous seasons) is 17. His improvement rate (percent chance that his EqERA will improve at all from his last 3 seasons) is 44.
His comparables are Ervin Santana, Jake Peavy, Richard Dotson, and Dan Spillner. Let’s hope he’s more like Jake Peavy and less like those 2 guys I have never heard of.
Actually Dotson is from Cincinnati and was a pretty good pitcher in the early 80s
But he pitched 245 innings in 1984 at age 25, was hurt the next year, and only had one good year after that. He was out of the game by age 32.
Spillner was a bad starter, but turned out to be a pretty good reliever. He was out of the game at 33 though.
But yeah, hopefully we see more Peavy than the other two.
"How big IS your magic wand?"
because you know
late inning relief is perfect for a basket case. Not that I am saying that Cueto is a basketcase.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Feb 23, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Good point.
Now… Slyde, could you graph the difference between a “head case” and a “basket case?”
"When is marshmallow season?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 23, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
all I know is that if you are too much of one or the other
your head might end up in a basket.
"How big IS your magic wand?"
projections are projections
But I think this kid is going to have some pretty fine years, 15 wins (bullpen issues aside) is not out of the question.
Is that a projection?
"When is marshmallow season?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 23, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Question.
How are Josh and his bornbybits minions able to tell when Cueto is “sprinkling in” the two-seam fastball?
"When is marshmallow season?"
Well, I'm looking at the graphs now and I think I get it.
"When is marshmallow season?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 23, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Spin and break
Pitch FX data has enough information for a math wiz to identify the spin and break on a pitch. A two-seam fastball breaks much more like a sinker, so it gets identified as such. I’m fairly certain that Cueto doesn’t throw a pure sinker, so I assumed that it was a two-seamer.
"How big IS your magic wand?"
Right.
That’s how I saw it and I guess I was wondering if that was Slyde’s or Josh’s assumption that Cueto’s “sinker” is his two-seam fastball.
"When is marshmallow season?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 23, 2009 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
fully slyde's
but I’d guess that if Josh had any manual intervention into making those pages, he’d probably identify it as a two-seamer instead of a sinker too. It’s all automated though and I’d bet he has a hard time differentiating them without knowing more about the pitcher than what is in the Pitch FX data.
"How big IS your magic wand?"
Interesting that..
..two of Cueto’s highest “similarity scores” are Cordero and D Thompson.
"When is marshmallow season?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 23, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
why does the projection predict Cueto to not break 100 innings in 6 years?
does that go with the territory of a young pitcher who has logged as many innings as he has?
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
I think it goes with the territory of pitching in the big leagues
Projections are less about the individual and more about the group, particularly with pitchers. There is A LOT of regression going on, especially when you are looking out 6 years into the future.
"How big IS your magic wand?"
i guess what Greg Maddux did,
throwing atleast 190 innings 21 years in a row, including 200 innings in 18 out of 19 years (in 2002 he only threw 199.6), is rare if not unheard of.
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by justin007000 on Feb 23, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
Regression: Everybody's doin' it.
"When is marshmallow season?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 23, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
true regression
yeah while you were gone i figured out gif’s.
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by justin007000 on Feb 23, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
Cueto is a huge injury risk
According to Will Carroll’s Team Health Reports at baseballprospectus.com, Cueto rates as a RED on his injury risk scale. He said Cueto is one of the top 5 injury risks in MLB according to his system.
His Cueto comment:
Unlike Volquez and his legs, it was Cueto’s arm that broke down in August. A posterior elbow strain is better than some of the options, but it shows that there is a weak link there, and it’s easy to see in his whippy and often inconsistent follow-through. Cueto really lacked efficiency, repeatedly getting to high pitch counts in early innings. Baker has always focused on the 120-pitch mark rather than 100, though as far as I know, he’s never explained why. We’ll see if those extra pitches hurt the inexperienced starter in his second season; the system says stay away. He’s one of the five highest reds this year.
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is there anything to those injury predictions?
Has anyone every tried analyzing their track records?
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Excellent question...
how accurate is this scary report, and where does Homer Bailey fall within it?
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by PeteyHendrix on Feb 23, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions
Homer Bailey
has his own scary report.
Dunno how accurate that one is, either. They sure sound like they know what they’re talking about, but then, so do astrologists.
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If yhis assessment is true
Then either change his mechanics or reduce his innings – pen him
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For Cueto that is
Bailey is a long shot and appears to be one pitch away from serious injury is the ‘scary report’ is true -
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Aaron Harang suffered a "strained elbow" in 2004, and was a horse from 2005-2007.
But he was a little older. I am not that worried about Cueto’s elbow, lots of guys have aches and pains from time to time. The other thing about arm injuries is I am not sure how well we can really predict them. Yeah a guy who regularly throws 120+ pitches will probably get hurt, but an organization can do all the right things and a guy may still hurt his arm.
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by justin007000 on Feb 23, 2009 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
Yes but we're talking about the Reds
And Dr. MRI alias Upchuck
Cueto is going to pitch in the WBC – Bad idea.
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Hmm whenever I hit reply the site zooms me to the top and no reply box gets opened
This is just me I suppose?
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by The Crushinator on Feb 23, 2009 6:08 PM EST reply actions
2009 projections graph
would it be possible to add a column that shows the projected league avg. for each category?
90 wins in 09!!
25 of these will be amazing.
AMAZING.
And then, if every SBN site did it for every player on their respective MLB team…
I’d suggest adding each player’s contract information. Salary, length of contract, bonuses and such. And maybe their history with the organization- who drafted them, which GM, when, what round, etc.
"When is marshmallow season?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 23, 2009 10:21 PM EST reply actions
excellent suggestions
I’ll add it to Cueto in the morning and we will try to get them onto each of the subsequent ones.
Glad you like it!
"How big IS your magic wand?"
And Slyde, you're such a tease...
You piqued my interest in Johnny Almaraz and Google led me to the RR Wiki which led me to this at RML.com
So, what else do you know? Where is he now? Do tell!
"When is marshmallow season?"
by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 23, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
I origanally read that as contct information
i was gonna say i could get you Tom Browning’s phone number
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by chandrathan on Feb 24, 2009 8:37 AM EST up reply actions
/notproofread'd
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by chandrathan on Feb 24, 2009 8:38 AM EST up reply actions
Are those projections
Available for the team (and league) at large? I’m trying to become more stat oriented as my resolution for this 2009 season.
Jawsome
I look forward to the rest of these. The health report scares me as well, but keep in mind that red lights are based on probability and similarity scores, not on individual analysis of a player’s past injuries. I would definitely like to see Johnny throw the changeup more and rely a bit less on his 4-seam. I hope Soto has a chance to work with him this spring.
Soto has been in camp, so I assume they are working together now.
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by PeteyHendrix on Feb 24, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
No
that’s Chriss Welsh with JTM. They were spotted having dinner last night with Bronson serenading them. Man, talk about losing respect for a couple guys over stupid commercials.
by fourrunhomer on Feb 24, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
One word
Awesome.
Thanks, Slyde. FVA’s excellent suggestions added in and I’m gonna’ have to start paying for this stuff.
Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you.
This is going to be both fun and interesting = looking at the Roster via Slyde's excellent approach
BTW – I do like Johnny
(This beautiful work is to be sung to the tune of Johnny Angel, by Shelly Fabres)
Johnny Cueto
He’s got something that a batter can’t resist
Its a four-seam fastball with late cut and some nasty sink,
It is by them before they even blink
Johnny Cueto
How they fear him
How batters are worried by such a little squirt
Every time he throws a slider
Its a chase pitch way low and down in the dirt
RRs in heaven
They get carried away
They dream of Johnny C
And how it’s gonna be
Other pitchers
Scare batters at the plate
But we just sit and wait, we’d rather concentrate
On Johnny Cueto
change-up floating free
Strikes out those Cubs and Dodgers so easily
And together we will see how lovely post season play will be
RRs are in heaven
They get carried away
Ash and Adromache, dream of him
And how it’s gonna be
Other fellas
Call them out for a date
But they just sit and wait, they’d rather concentrate
On Johnny Cueto
How hitters fear him
Why are batters worried by such a little squirt
Every time he throws a slider
Its a chase pitch low, away down in the dirt
*Johnny Cueto ..
Johnny Cueto ..
Johnny Cueto ..
Johnny Cueto ..
You’re a #4 starter to me
Used without permission of Ash and Andromache
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I think Madville should get his own follow-up column to these
It can be called The Red Retort
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by chandrathan on Feb 24, 2009 8:52 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
love it
My millions are unconventional!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Feb 24, 2009 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
The Red Snort
"aw....c'mon. That's suck! I heard Coldplay on WARM98" obc son(after watching the band win Best Rock Grammy)
Scary health reports
Just to pile on poor Mr. Cueto – he was given a “red light” from Will Carrol at BP. Here was his thinking:
Unlike Volquez and his legs, it was Cueto’s arm that broke down in August. A posterior elbow strain is better than some of the options, but it shows that there is a weak link there, and it’s easy to see in his whippy and often inconsistent follow-through. Cueto really lacked efficiency, repeatedly getting to high pitch counts in early innings. Baker has always focused on the 120-pitch mark rather than 100, though as far as I know, he’s never explained why. We’ll see if those extra pitches hurt the inexperienced starter in his second season; the system says stay away. He’s one of the five highest reds this year.
He's one of the five highest Reds this year?
Do fans count? Because I find it tough to believe that there are more than 2 guys between Cueto and our Petey/Mads combo.
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
I'm just helping.
I think if you look close you can see that I’m re-positioning my second baseman in my tabletop Sher-co Baseball game. Madville, meanwhile, is so loaded that he thinks we’re playing Stratego. Sadly, he’s still beating me 5-2 in the 7th. He keeps attacking Willy Taveras’ flank with his French troops, and that’s keeping him from wreaking havoc.
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