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RR Tech Tips: Enhancing Your Reading Experience

I've noticed a lot of questions over the last couple of days about what this means or how to do that, so I figured I'd compile them all into a few posts for reference later on in life.

Today we'll start with the basics, reading the site and commenting.

When you come to Red Reporter you will see a 3 column set up, with links to various items on the left and and right sides and the primary site content down the middle.  That middle area is where the magic happens.  That is where you'll find our daily updates as well Game Threads, Reviews, and other fun stuff like this article.  Okay, it probably doesn't need to be this dumbed down, does it?

One thing you may find in an article on the front page is a link that says "Continue reading this post »" at the end.  Be sure to click that to get to the remainder of the article.  If you miss it, you may miss the key to life.

If the link is not there, just click the "Comments" link to start reading the comments.  In this article's case, click the "Continue reading this post »" link.

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Navigating Comments

Before you get into the actual comments section, there is a section that looks like this:

Comment-head_medium

Display lets you change the view of the comments from Expanded (subjects and text) to Collapsed (just subjects are visible).

Checking the Auto-refresh box will toggle on and off the auto-refresh feature in the comments section.  When checked on, new comments added to the thread will magically appear with a little note popping up in the corner saying who posted the latest comment.

Below those two boxes you'll see keyboard commands for navigating a thread.  Personally, I find these very help for jumping around in a thread to new comments.  They work thusly:

c - using the c key will take you to the first unread comment in the thread.  This key does not mark a comment as read.

x - using the x key will mark the current comment with focus as read.  I typically use c and x in tandem to navigate to new comments and mark them as read once I've read them.

z - the z key will combine the actions of c and x.  One word of caution though.  Often, if a new comment is added above the comment currently with focus, using z or x will actually mark that comment as read before you've read it.  I suggest that whenever you see a new comment box pop up in the corner, pushing the c-button before hitting z or x to make sure you don't mark comments above your current point as read.

r - to reply to the current comment with focus, simply press the r key and a reply box will appear.

 

Reading Comments

When you get into the comments section, you'll likely see a bunch of comments like this:

Comment-thread_medium

The subject line - the bolded area is the subject line.  Clicking the subject will collapse the text below it down, for some reason.

Username/avatar - you can click the commenter's username or their avatar on the far right of the screen and it will take you to that person's SBN profile page.

Date/time - after the username is the date/time of the comment.  This is also where you will find a link for that specific comment.  If you want to refer to a comment in another place, copy the link from the date of the comment and use that URL for your reference.

up - the up link only appears for comments that are a reply to another comment.  Clicking up will take you to the "parent" comment to which the current comment is a reply.  This is particularly useful in a long thread with many replies to a single comment.

reply - use this link to reply to that comment.  Your response will be indented one level and put below the comment you reply to in order based on when responses happened.

actions - this is a special link that allows you to recommend or flag a post.  When you click actions, two more links should become visible that look like this:

Flag-rec_medium

The Flag link should be used if you find something offensive or if the commenter is being a troll or posting spam.  Hopefully you won't use this button too much.

The Rec link allows you to recognize a post that you particularly enjoy.  It can be something funny, a well-thought out response, or just something that makes you feel all warm and gooey inside. 

At the end of the commenter's line, you'll see a rec count (e.g. 0 Recs above).  Each time a comment receives a rec, this number will increment.  Once a comment receives 3 recs it will turn green, recognizing it as one of the many greatest comments of all time on the site.

Posting Comments

When it comes time for you to finally say something within a thread, you can do so via the comment box.  This box is the bottom of every thread, or if you'd like to respond to a specific comment, it will magically appear when you click the reply link.

Post-comment_medium

The first line is a subject line.  This can be a summary of your comment, an intro to your comment, or anything really.  It is not required, but the style on RR is to use the subject line so that we can more cleanly see the breaks between comments.

Below the subject you'll see six buttons.  The B button allows you to make text within your post bold.  Type your text, select it, and hit the B (or type Ctrl-B) and the system will the HTML tags to make that text bold.

The I button will make your text italic.  The S will strikethrough your selected text.  Use each of these the same way you'd use the B button.

If you are quoting a large portion of text from another source, I suggest that you use the quote button, the next button on the list.  Clicking that button will add blockquote tags to your comment.  Add those and then paste your commented text in between them and it will identify that text as a quote from elsewhere.

Clicking the link button will allow you to paste a nicely formatted link within your comment.  My suggestion would be to type some reference text (i.e. via Fay or Check out this story) and then select that text.  Next click the link button and this box will pop up:

Post-url_medium

Enter the URL in the specified box.  It is also recommended that you click the Open in New Window? check box since this will prevent you from taking the reader away from Red Reporter.  Click submit and the proper HTML tags will be added to your comment.

The final thing you may want to add to your comment is an image.  All images used in comments must be hosted somewhere on the internet already.  If you find an image you'd like to share with the group, copy the entire URL location of the image.  Then click the image button and a box will pop up:

Post-image_medium

Paste the image URL in the box and click OK.  The proper HTML to display the image will be added to your post wherever your cursor is.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Please try to avoid posting images over 60 KB in game threads.  Large images slow down threads and make them a pain to follow.  If an image in a game thread is too large, the comment will be deleted by an admin  And please try to avoid posting images over 100 KB at all times.  It's a common courtesy to those with slower connections.

If your image takes up a lot of the screen, I suggest you add a HEIGHT or WIDTH attribute to the image tag.  Something like this will prevent your image from taking up an ungodly amount of the screen.

<img src="http://yourimageurl" height="300" / >

NOTE: This does not change the KB size of your image, just the display size.

Now, after you have typed up your opus in a comment box, you should preview it to make sure it looks okay.  The PREVIEW button will show you just what your post will look like once you add it to the site.  It's a good way to make sure your formatting looks the way you expected and that your URL's point to the right place and that your images actually display.  I suggest you use preview as much as possible as it can help save you from an embarrassing malapropism.

Finally, you are ready to click POST and share your wisdom with the world.  Good luck!

Let me know if there is anything I missed.  I will cover FanPosts and FanShots in another installment.  Until then, happy commenting!

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The C and X system is the best part about the new red reporter (is it still considered new?)

Be careful of the auto update. If you are like me, you use tabbed browsing so you can just leave a thread open and respond as needed. However, SBNation uses a timing system on the update. The comments are added sooner if the thread is getting more comments. If the thread is only getting a few comments, the time between auto updates can be rather lengthy.

Made from 100% recycled awesome,

by chandrathan on Feb 19, 2009 9:19 AM EST reply actions  

I prefer to Z everything.

IROC!

Youth wins games; veteran presence wins championships!

by ben nevis on Feb 19, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

i can't use z

because of my constant fear that I might miss a Red Reporter Comment

Made from 100% recycled awesome,

by chandrathan on Feb 19, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

blondes shouldn't use Z

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Feb 19, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

That second tag should be used more often

"I like to think more in terms of him his in-scoring position percentage." - Dusty Baker (2009) regarding Corey Patterson's relationship with his daughter

by BK on Feb 19, 2009 9:26 AM EST reply actions  

what second tag?

Made from 100% recycled awesome,

by chandrathan on Feb 19, 2009 9:52 AM EST reply actions  

Did Felix Pie get traded?

this is all gobblydegook to me. now i know how Mads feels after bowling

ive never used any of these features

tHan is easier than chan-than

"aw....c'mon. That's suck! I heard Coldplay on WARM98" obc son(after watching the band win Best Rock Grammy)

by obc2 on Feb 19, 2009 10:10 AM EST reply actions  

sometimes I think you are one acid drop from turning into Madville

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Feb 19, 2009 10:11 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Truer words, blah blah blah....

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Feb 19, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

give me twenty years

I am currently working on pickling my interior organs via bourbon and beer consumption. On a positive note I havent had so much as a sniffle in three years. I think its working!!!

"aw....c'mon. That's suck! I heard Coldplay on WARM98" obc son(after watching the band win Best Rock Grammy)

by obc2 on Feb 19, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

It will take more than one tab to catch up to old Mads!

BTW – Is jch gonna have a ’RR for Dummys" session soon – all this stuff hurts my head.

肏你祖宗十八代 - and your sister too !

by Madville on Feb 19, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Only if you've been drinking heavily

肏你祖宗十八代 - and your sister too !

by Madville on Feb 20, 2009 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Psst.
It is also recommended that you click the Open in New Window? check box since this will prevent you from taking the reader away from Red Reporter.

Pass it on.

Rec me.

"When is marshmallow season?"

by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 19, 2009 12:18 PM EST reply actions  

Ooh, good tip

Also, did you get a nanny or something? You have been posting like gangbusters lately.

And asking for recs is unseemly.

by Brendanukkah on Feb 19, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

rec'd

Not really. You rec whore. :)

I try not to break the rules but merely to test their elasticity. - Bill Veeck

by PeteyHendrix on Feb 19, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

unrec'd

soliciting recs is comparable to asking permission to put just the tip in.

"aw....c'mon. That's suck! I heard Coldplay on WARM98" obc son(after watching the band win Best Rock Grammy)

by obc2 on Feb 19, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not cool to ask to just put the tip in.

Regardless of how well you know the guy.

I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar

by PeteyHendrix on Feb 19, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

also, explaining why you rec'd something is annoying

i will never mention this again, but I’ll throw it out here now.

There's action across the street. It's Snowman! Take him!

by Man Mountain on Feb 19, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

rec'd

for mentioning it and then never mentioning it again

"How big IS your magic wand?"

by Slyde on Feb 19, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

you bet

There's action across the street. It's Snowman! Take him!

by Man Mountain on Feb 19, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey MM, what about rec'ing bothers you?

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Feb 19, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

my guess

It’s thread clutter. In many forums, posting comments like “lol” or “I agree!” or “:-)” will get you banned (for waste of bandwidth/posting comments without content). Rating systems are supposed to make it unnecessary to post such things. Both using the rating system and posting “rec’d” is redundant.

Personally, it doesn’t bother me here. It’s not like we stick to the topic anyway, and posts don’t get a lot of recs. It would be seriously annoying at a high-traffic site like DailyKos, though.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Feb 19, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

not rec'd!

that’s even more useless, right? Yay! Im learning me the tricks and the trades of the Internets!!! : )

"aw....c'mon. That's suck! I heard Coldplay on WARM98" obc son(after watching the band win Best Rock Grammy)

by obc2 on Feb 19, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

this has actually bothered me

This is why Man Mountain will be my bench coach. The rec’ing itself seems sufficient without saying it. I guess if it were easy to see who rec’ed a comment it would be completely unnecessary. As it is it seems to be a way to goad others into rec’ing or to encourage consensus on a matter.

Of course this is a community that didn’t come down completely against Firsts! so there’s obviously a lot of leniency toward unnecessary silliness.

by Red Menace on Feb 19, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

i think the rec'er has to be identified in one way or another

if sbnation would give us that feature it would be ideal

Made from 100% recycled awesome,

by chandrathan on Feb 19, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

and sometimes we say "rec'd" just to be silly

it goes with what we do, this isn’t an overly serious blog.

"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.

by justin007000 on Feb 19, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Believe me, I understand that

Sometimes I just feel like maybe 30% of all content here since the switch has been recs, counter-recs, non-recs, joke-recs, counter-joke-recs, Dunn’ds, rec-begs, anti-rec-begs, flags… Not that some of them haven’t been funny. I thought we’d collectively move past this stage of playing with the new toy, but I must admit it’s taking longer than I thought.

Eventually you reach a point where nearly all your communication is expressed through some sort of closed internet jargon technology and if that happens you should just give up and Twitter.

by Red Menace on Feb 19, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

just submit

"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.

by justin007000 on Feb 20, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think it's "new toy syndrome"

I think the membership here is changing. It’s become more “drunken frat party.” That has always been an element, of course, especially in game threads, but it’s become more so lately. A lot of the more mature posters seem to have wandered off or are posting less, and a lot of the more vocal newcomers are college-aged males. The balance has shifted.

And it seems to me that we have fewer posts from women recently. Daedalus is back, but she wasn’t posting much for awhile. Ash rarely appears these days, when she used to be one of the most active posters. pw never made the transition to the new format.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Feb 20, 2009 7:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I think part of it is seeing the posts real-time

rather than having to refresh. Commenting is easier, and you’re more likely to post just a quick phrase along the lines of what Menace described. Which I don’t mind.

It would be nice if we had more female posters but I think there’s a sample size issue with what you described. You, Daedalus, and andromache have all survived the transition.

by ken on Feb 20, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

that could be

It hadn’t occurred to me, because I have it set so that it doesn’t display posts real-time.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Feb 20, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think "rec'd" and the maturity of the posters have any correlation at all

Honestly, I agree with chan-than that all it is is a way to identify who’s rec’ing posts. It’s saying “hey, I thought that was funny or insightful” in 5 characters. It helps to build the community. I think that adding a way to identify recs would be a pretty good thing for them to add in the future, kind of what facebook did with their “likes” system.

"I like to think more in terms of him his in-scoring position percentage." - Dusty Baker (2009) regarding Corey Patterson's relationship with his daughter

by BK on Feb 20, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

rec'd

Just kidding.

I agree. Knowing who rec’s builds camaraderie among the posters. I might have a heated debate with a poster, but seeing them rec a later post from me (or vice versa) helps to underscore that the debate was good-spirited.

Also, a rec that is visibly from a vet can make a newbie (or mostly-lurker) feel more part of the community, thus creating more open discussion and a larger, friendlier community. That’s far more worthwhile to me than the annoyance of occasional clutter.

I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar

by PeteyHendrix on Feb 20, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I totally agree

And knowing who rec’d comments is helpful because if you see that your rec is from jch the rec whore, you can pretty much disregard it. Like a ribbon that says “participant” on it.

"I like to think more in terms of him his in-scoring position percentage." - Dusty Baker (2009) regarding Corey Patterson's relationship with his daughter

by BK on Feb 20, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, if I gave you a ribbon with 'participant' on it, you'd feel it

And is it my fault I’m just so damned agreeable?

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Feb 20, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

i was going ot ask if the mother of your children got those ribbons

but i decided not to.

"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.

by justin007000 on Feb 22, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm all for rec'ing

and I don’t mind the posts that say “rec’d.”

I just find the long-winded explanations of why someone rec’d something annoying. Just rec it. I think I might be alone in this, but I thought I’d throw it in there in a discussion about rec’ing etiquette.

Sorry for breaking my promise not to mention it again. Radio silence begins now…

There's action across the street. It's Snowman! Take him!

by Man Mountain on Feb 19, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

de-rec'ted

"How big IS your magic wand?"

by Slyde on Feb 19, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I was actually trying to goad you into mentioning it again

as some sort of display of humor. I think it was taken a bit too seriously by the three of you.

And thus…another poorly-attempted joke ends in a whimper.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Feb 19, 2009 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I figured that's what you were up to

no worries

There's action across the street. It's Snowman! Take him!

by Man Mountain on Feb 19, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

rec'd

for being understanding

"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.

by justin007000 on Feb 19, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I must admit...

I don’t care why you rec my post, but I DO like to know who did it…cuz some folks’ rec’s carry more weight than others by sheer scarcity.

I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar

by PeteyHendrix on Feb 19, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

he's rec'd at least a couple balls

"aw....c'mon. That's suck! I heard Coldplay on WARM98" obc son(after watching the band win Best Rock Grammy)

by obc2 on Feb 19, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Feb 20, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

"aw....c'mon. That's suck! I heard Coldplay on WARM98" obc son(after watching the band win Best Rock Grammy)

by obc2 on Feb 20, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

No, there is not

For those that have images on your hard drive and want to show them to the RR world, I suggest using a site like Imageshack or Photobucket (or any of the other thousands of photo hosting sites). Upload the image there and then use the URL they give you to display it here.

"How big IS your magic wand?"

by Slyde on Feb 20, 2009 7:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice tip, Pete!

I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar

by PeteyHendrix on Feb 20, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope this doesn't get overlooked..

..as this thread starts to get buried on the bottom of the front page. (And that’s an odd quirk that has always irked me. When an admin posts a great article/thread and then two other front page posts bump it down down down and it’s not in the righthand column of FanPosts because it never was a FanPost.)

1. re: rec etiquette… I apologize but I’d like to ask MM to again break his code of silence to help me better understand what he means by “long-winded.” I’ve seen short and sweet posts where someone says “Rec’d” (and I don’t gather that anyone is opposed to these) and I’ve also seen slightly more explicative comments like “Rec’d for shirtless AL Green reference” that I guess is not as pointed and elegant as a simple “Rec’d” but I don’t think I’d consider as “long-winded.” I don’t think I’ve seen many others that offer much more than that but those would be the ones that bother you?

2. I suppose that most people have discovered this feature on their own but I think it took me awhile to accidently stumble upon it after last year’s format change… does everyone know that if you click on a screenname or an avatar you can see what that person has been up to recently. And this “recent history” includes activity at other SBNation blogs?

3. ‘Nukkah, no nanny but I think I’m getting just good enough at my job that I can find some time to goof around again. Everything may change when lil’ Annabelle learns to crawl and/or walk later this summer. I had to come back when I realized that I had been so far out of the MLB/Reds loop that I completely missed the Tavares signing. And all the ensuing bitching and moaning around the Red Reporter dinner table..

"When is marshmallow season?"

by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 20, 2009 12:56 PM EST reply actions  

Clarification

I think rec’ing posts and posting a quick response such as “rec’d” is a good thing for the community for all the reasons others have outlined above. They can get in the way of threaded discussions that are deep and involved but I guess that’s probably not such big a deal.

What I was referring to are rec’s that seem less about promoting or congratulating a good post than explaining why they are rec’ing something. They usually begin “I’m rec’ing this because [marginally related story] or [I caught your sly allusion to…].” I feel the animating principle behind such a “rec” is actually the exact opposite from what it should be. It tries to shift attention away from the thing rec’d to the one doing the rec’ing. Like most things, I don’t find it bothersome every once in a while, but if you’ve got a really excellent thread going, with a lot of good participation, such rec’s get monotonous very, very quickly.

To be honest, I’m sorry I brought it up. Just a moment of spleen (admittedly, one of far too many).

There's action across the street. It's Snowman! Take him!

by Man Mountain on Feb 20, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

rec'd

for reasons

I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar

by PeteyHendrix on Feb 20, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

more on recs

I understand the community building functions described, but I don’t understand the utility of posts “going green.” On the front page it makes sense to have recommended posts stay prominent, but what’s the point of green comments (aside from, “Hey, fun! It went green!”)? Nobody is going to only read the recommended posts (and if they wanted to there’s no way to find them).

Most sites that have user feedback on comments roll them over in some way so that only the most successful are displayed first (YouTube, etc). This format doesn’t lend itself to them.

by Red Menace on Feb 21, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

In a big thread that someone is rolling through

They might be sure not to miss a “green’ed” comment, as they are easy to see during scrolling, while otherwise skipping a lot of other stuff. Most of us on here read every stinking comment, but I could see that feature as a viable utility for a casual user or a reg who is quickly catching up after being out for a while.

I laid my bed and I'm going to have to sit on it. - A-Roid the Liar

by PeteyHendrix on Feb 21, 2009 3:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Clicking on an avatar or screen name and then recent activity also shows “recs.” Clicking on the sbnation button leads you to a page that has recent activity (by sport) and miscellaneous other stuff.

by ol Pete on Feb 22, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy moley

This whole Rec’ing this is complicated!

"aw....c'mon. That's suck! I heard Coldplay on WARM98" obc son(after watching the band win Best Rock Grammy)

by obc2 on Feb 20, 2009 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

Let's keep religion out of this

肏你祖宗十八代 - and your sister too !

by Madville on Feb 20, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

sbnation really needs to have a "sticky" option

so things like the death pool, or info on RR meetups, etc, can stay at the top of the page until they are not needed.

"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.

by justin007000 on Feb 22, 2009 4:04 PM EST reply actions  

I wish it had a color option for type so that sarcasm or humor could be marked.

by ol Pete on Feb 22, 2009 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I've been told that the "double colon" is sometimes used to signify ::sarcasm::

But I’ve never seen it used. But I read relatively few blogs so what do I know?

"When is marshmallow season?"

by Fat Vegas Alan on Feb 23, 2009 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

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