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Heroes of the Zeros: The 25-Man Roster

After 3 weeks of voting and 10 years of suffering, we've finally come to the point where we can reveal the Cincinnati Reds All Decade Team for the two thousand and aughts.  But before we get to that, let's take a look at some numbers for the Reds in the Aughts.

The Reds finished the decade with a dismal 751-869 (.464) record.  With an average record of 75-87, they managed to have a better record than only 7 teams during the decade (Can you name all 7?). They scored 7442 runs during the decade, tied for 21st in the Majors (9th in the NL) with Kansas City.  The surrendered 8248 runs, which was the 2nd most in the NL behind Colorado and 6th most overall.  Their run differential for the decade gives them an expected pythagorean record of 732-888.  So, even with as bad as they were, they were still "lucky" for the decade.  Yeesh.

Some other numbers:

  • 46,971,462 people purchased tickets to see the Reds play during the decade (at home and on the road combined).
  • The Reds hit the most home runs in the NL during the decade (1909).
  • They also allowed the most home runs in the Majors at 2025 - over 80 more than the next closest team.
  • The Reds hit just 227 triples during the decade, the fewest in the NL.
  • Only one team struck out more than the Reds' total of 11,878 and that was the Milwaukee Brewers (12,268).  Oddly enough, they were both the top two teams in reaching on catcher's interference (Brewers - 14; Reds - 11).
  • The Reds had the fewest sacrifice flies in the Majors and were 9th in sacrifice hits.  It's gotta be the little things, right?
  • Defensively, the Reds were a mixed bag.  They turned the 5th most double plays in the league, but also committed the 3rds most errors.
  • The Reds were one of nine teams to not turn a triple play during the decade.  The did hit into 2 of them though.
  • Reds pitchers finished 12th in the NL in strikeouts, 9th in walks, and 8th in hit batsmen.
  • Reds catchers surrendered the most passed balls in the NL (140) and their pitchers had the 2nd most wild pitches (565).
  • Winning percentage-wise, this was the second-worst (arbitrary) decade in Reds history.  The Reds were 664-866 (.434) during the 1930s, and that's even after they went a combined 179-125 in 1938-1939. 
  • This has been the worst 10-year stretch since 1947-1956, when the Reds went 710-828 (.462).  However, it only the 19th worst 10-year period in the team's history. As bad we had it this past decade, nothing matches how bad it was from 1928-1937 when they went 629-903 (.410). 

View the 25-man roster after the jump, if you aren't throwing up in your trash can already.

Star-divide

 
Ken Griffey Jr.
 
Adam Dunn Austin Kearns
 
 
Barry Larkin     Brandon Phillips    
 
    Aaron Boone     Sean Casey
 
 
Jason Larue
Starters Bullpen Bench
Aaron Harang
Bronson Arroyo
Edinson Volquez
Elmer Dessens
Johnny Cueto
Francisco Cordero (C)
David Weathers
Scott Williamson
Arthur Rhodes
Jeremy Affeldt
Danny Graves
Kent Mercker
David Ross
Rich Aurilia
Ryan Freel
Norris Hopper
Javier Valentin

Some notes on the team:

  • The entire starting lineup besides Brandon Phillips played on the 2002 and 2003 Reds that went a combined 147-177.
  • 4 of the 5 starting pitchers were in the Reds rotation in 2008 and 2009.
  • 4 of the 5 bench players played on the 2006 squad that almost made it to .500.
  • The highest percentage vote getter was Aaron Harang, who appeared on 97% of the ballots.  Bronson Arroyo was on 96% and both Francisco Cordero and Adam Dunn were on 93% at their respective positions.
  • The most votes for a player not appearing on the team went to Joey Votto, who got over 90 votes (about 33% of the vote) at 1B.
  • The lowest percentage of the vote for a starter was Sean Casey at 67%.  Next closest was Austin Kearns at just over 70%.
  • The closest vote was for left-handed pinch hitter where Valentien won with just 33% of the vote. Jacob Cruz was a close second at 30% and Hal Morris has 21%.

So, there's your team of the decade.  Time to move on and make the tens much better than the aughts.

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I can't believe I forgot to put the rate stats above

Here’s the Reds rundown and their NL rank:
AVG: .257 (14th)
OBP: .330 (12th)
SLG: .421 (8th)
OPS: .750 (9th)
wOBA: .320 (8th)
wRAA: -36 (league average wOBA of .321)

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by Slyde on Dec 31, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

no silly

that was because Adam Dunn could only strike out when there were runners on base.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Dec 31, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

No Scott Sullivan?

/shakes head in disappointment

7 worse teams: Pirates, Royals, O’s, Nats/Expos, Rays, Rangers, and … Detroit?

by ken on Dec 31, 2009 8:52 AM EST reply actions  

Not the Rangers, they were 776-843

Here are the bottom 7, with one still unknown.

KC – 672-948 (.415)
PIT – 681-936 (.421)
TB – 694-923 (.429)
BAL – 698-920 (.431)
WAS – 711-908 (.439)
DET – 729-891 (.450)
? – 741-878 (.458)

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by Slyde on Dec 31, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

We're both wrong

SD was good for 3-4 years.

The 741 win team is pretty good now but started the decade out horribly. The city’s name is Algonquin for “the good land.”

by Snake the Jake on Dec 31, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Seattle?

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Dec 31, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, nevermind.

I don’t know my Native American geography

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Dec 31, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

at least this team has beer.

"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."

by ZJiff30 on Jan 3, 2010 8:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Ending the year on a high note

This all-00’s team could win 80 games. Maybe.

by ben nevis on Dec 31, 2009 9:14 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

The entire starting lineup besides Brandon Phillips played on the 2002 and 2003 Reds

That’s somewhat surprising, since those were two of the 4 worst offenses of the decade (guess who was manager the other two?).

"You never know how you look through other people's eyes"

by sidnancy on Dec 31, 2009 9:31 AM EST reply actions  

However

if you take each player’s best year as a Red in the aughts, you get a pretty good offense:

Player   Year   wOBA   wRAA
Larkin 2000 .384 16.8
Dunn 2004 .403 41.8
Kearns 2002 .394 24.3
Griffey 2005 .397 32.8
Casey 2004 .389 31.7
Phillips 2007 .354 13.5
Boone 2001 .356 10.5
Larue 2005 .347 7.5

That’s 178.9 runs above average. So, as long as everything went exactly right, they’d be good. Sounds like every year of the aughts to me.

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by Slyde on Dec 31, 2009 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Interesting

Can you imagine what this type of result would be if Pirates fans were to vote on their own decade of top players? Actually, it might be a fairly good team.

Don't try to win every game, just the last one.

by johnu1 on Dec 31, 2009 11:08 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, I'd think most franchises could put together a respectable lineup if you can pick from the whole decade

C – Jason Kendall. Great before breaking his leg.
1B – [drawing a blank]
2B – Freddy Sanchez. Former batting champion and Grande heartthrob.
SS – Jack Wilson. Had a few really good seasons.
3B – Aramis Ramirez. They gave up on him way too early.
LF – Jason Bay
CF – Nyjer Morgan?
RF – Xavier Nady – had that one good year. Brian Giles might’ve had a good year there too.

The pitching would be suspect.

by ken on Dec 31, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, by default

I scrolled through their bb-ref pages and saw some really ugly numbers earlier in the decade at first (Kevin Young, Randall Simon, etc.). Laroche hasn’t been great but he’s the easy winner.

Also, I forgot or never knew how great Brian Giles was there. He’s probably their WAR leader for the decade.

by ken on Dec 31, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

Giles – 19.9 WAR
Kendall – 15.3 WAR
Wilson – 13.2 WAR
Bay – 12.1 WAR
Sanchez – 11.6 WAR

I think they have more double digit WAR hitters than the Reds.

Pitching-wise, they are weak:
Paul Maholm – 8.1 WAR
Kip Wells – 7.3 WAR
Zach Duke – 6.7 WAR
Kris Benson – 6.2 WAR

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by Slyde on Dec 31, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

3 catchers?

I expected better from redreporter voters.

by Snake the Jake on Dec 31, 2009 11:14 AM EST reply actions  

Dude, there's NO WAY this team wouldn't have three catchers

It had to. Had to.

"Santa Claus doesn't use Craigslist." -- 'tHan

by jch24 on Dec 31, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, but who would manage these fine men?

2000 Jack McKeon
2001-03 Bob Boone
2003-05 Dave Miley
2005-07 Jerry Narron
2007 Pete Mackanin
2007-Present Dusty Baker

Vote!

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Dec 31, 2009 11:21 AM EST reply actions  

Trader Jack or Pete Mackalanacakalainanin

Pitching coach Don Gullett. Hitting coach is nobody.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Dec 31, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep, looking at that list is really, really depressing ...

so here’s something that will cheer you up:

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Dec 31, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

i still have a crush on Miley

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Dec 31, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Dec 31, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

She must have just had a blood meal...

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Dec 31, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

there are some inapproriate comments i could make

but i’m not going to.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Dec 31, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Seems about right

but I would have liked to see FeLo over LLM and Lohse over Cueto. Small mater.

Bad decade!

Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Jan 1, 2010 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

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