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The Greatest Reds: #14 - #13

14. Eppa Rixey

Played as Red Primary Position Career Rank Peak Rank Prime Rank
1921-1933 SP, RP 11 26 18
Percent Breakdown of Value Best Season Best player on Reds
Hit Field Pitch 1925 1924, 1928
0% 0% 100%
Awards/Honors as a Red Leading the League On the Reds Leaderboard
Inducted to Hall of Fame – 1963 Home Runs Per Inning – 1921, 1928, 1929
Wins – 1922
Innings Pitched – 1922
Games Started – 1922, 1928
Shutouts – 1924

-1st in career wins
-1st in career innings pitched
-8th in career shutouts
-8th in career walks per inning
-18th in career ERA+

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Rixey was nearly 30 years old when he first pitched with the Reds, after quite a few seasons with the Phillies. And in the four seasons immediately preceding his Cincy debut, Rixey had two 20-loss seasons and one season lost to service in the Great War. It was not an unintelligent position for Philly to think that Rixey was basically done. Instead, however, Rixey gave the Reds 13 years, becoming the franchise’s all-time leader in victories (179). In his first five seasons with the Reds, Rixey put together a 100-71 record, pitched 1,449 innings, and maintained an ERA of 2.96 (130 ERA+). At the end of the 1925 season, Rixey’s production level declined significantly, although he continued a heavy workload for a few more years. Pointing to Rixey’s exceptional talent was his ability to add value even into his 40’s. In 1932, at age 41, in a hybrid starter-reliever role, Rixey pitched in 25 games, throwing 111.2 innings, and managing a 144 ERA+. In addition to Rixey’s high win total, he amassed almost 2900 innings as a Red while allowing a 3.33 ERA (118 ERA+).

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13. Dolf Luque

Played as Red Primary Position Career Rank Peak Rank Prime Rank
1918-1929 SP, RP 14 14 17
Percent Breakdown of Value Best Season Best player on Reds
Hit Field Pitch 1923 1921, 1923
4% 0% 96%
Awards/Honors as a Red Leading the League On the Reds Leaderboard
N/A Hits Per Inning – 1920, 1923, 1925
Shutouts – 1921, 1923, 1925
ERA+ – 1923, 1925
ERA – 1923, 1925
Wins – 1923
W-L Percentage – 1923
Home Runs Per Inning – 1923
WHIP – 1925

-2nd in career innings pitched
-5th in career wins
-5th in career shutouts
-12th in career ERA+
-12th in career strikeouts

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Known as "The Pride of Havana", the fair-skinned Luque played 20 years in the National League, at a time when his darker compatriots were barred from entry into the league. In the midst of his 12 year stint with the Reds, Luque put together the greatest post-1900 season by a pitcher in franchise history. In 1923, Luque was 27-8, with a 1.93 ERA (201 ERA+) over 322 innings—including six shutouts and two saves. Two years later, Luque led the league in ERA+ again…but this time with a losing record, despite the team being seven games over .500 for the year. Earlier in his career, Luque was often used as a reliever—in the championship 1919 season, Luque only started 9 of his 30 appearances, and in the World Series, made two relief appearances, and only gave up one hit in his five innings. Overall, Luque’s numbers as a Red are rather similar to Rixey’s: Luque threw about 200 fewer innings, and won 25 fewer games, but had better rate stats (3.09 ERA, 121 ERA+…3 points of ERA+ higher than Rixey). Given Luque’s impressive peak, the nod goes to Luque as the 2nd best pitcher in Reds history.

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pr' cool that these guys were teammates

it’d be awful nice to have a pair of pitchers like these guys again.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 3, 2009 12:09 PM EST reply actions  

Shoot

It would be pretty awesome to have one lockdown starter on the team.

by ben nevis on Dec 3, 2009 12:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I think I'm pretty sure who the #1 pitcher is at this point

but it definitely surprises me.

Yeah, those guys and the Cincinnati Reds. They're a terrible football team. / Because they're a baseball team? / Exactly. You know who's the worst football team? The Philadelphia Flyers. - Best Show

by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Dec 3, 2009 1:01 PM EST reply actions  

Tom Seaver?

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Dec 3, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

He was way down, in the 70's

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Dec 3, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Why?

Why would it surprise you? He pitched alot of innings (not quite as many as either of these two), with a better ERA+ and WHIP; among the three, he’d also get a much bigger post-season “extra credit” boost.

"You never know how you look through other people's eyes"

by sidnancy on Dec 3, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

we're talking about belisle right?

Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...

by boobs on Dec 3, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That's B-Lizzle to you

"Santa Claus doesn't use Craigslist." -- 'tHan

by jch24 on Dec 3, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Mario Soto?

"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK

by obc2 on Dec 3, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Bill Bray?

"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

by bbjones on Dec 4, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, amend my statement yesterday to

12 to go, and half of them starters for the Big Red Machine.

Chaim Mattis Keller New York City's # 1 Royals fan!

by cmkeller on Dec 3, 2009 2:14 PM EST reply actions  

Ah, Dolph Luque

without a doubt, my 2nd favorite Adolph in history.

I always wondered why he got to play in the bigs when nobody else did…it didn’t occur to me that he was a Guzman (back when that meant something) and basically a Spaniard. I always like when people smaller than me are incredible athletes, and I absolutely love that every single GIS picture of him makes him look like he’s about to punch someone in the face.

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Dec 3, 2009 3:38 PM EST reply actions  

Too Bad Danny H. is so tall, he coulda been a Cy contender...

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Dec 3, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

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