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I have been a Reds fan all of my life up until they traded adam dunn...now i dont have a favorite team im just a dunn fan...i know all of you booed him and hated him but does anyone miss him in cincy? i really miss him wearing the reds jersey and listening to marty brenneman call his homeruns. Whats your best adam dunn memory?

Mine is when he hit the grand slam into the indians bullpen to win it by 1 run. would you like to c him back in cincy someday?

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I am sorry.

but the only memory i like to recall is when he went to the nationals.
To see someone with the kind of raw talent any wuss fan would kill to have. But he just did not care. the air of a texas frat boy for whom everything was easy. He has tremendous talent, sure, but i want to root for a team of guys i could imagine liking in real life, and Adam was never that.

by Eastwindquinn on Dec 13, 2009 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

I think Dunn always got a pretty raw deal on all that lack of effort stuff

along with a pretty raw deal on how much of the Reds losing was his fault. He was an easy target, and I kind of think so vehemently accusing Dunn of having no effort is sort of lazy in its own way.

I’m not exactly a Dunn apologist, he and I had a strange roller-coaster relationship while he was here, I was glad to have him then I wanted him traded, glad to have him, wanted him traded, etc. His defense destroys his value, but at the end of the day this team desperately misses his offense, I know I’m not the only one who has noticed a huge offensive decline since he’s been gone. forget his average, a .400 OBP is always welcome in my lineup. Even with all that, I’d still be hesitant toward bringing him back.

My favorite moments? His diving catch, the Adam from Milwaukee phone call, and every time he stole second.

by sharks on Dec 13, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he mostly tried.

Give me a lineup of 9 Ryan Freels, and I'll show you a team that can't pitch.

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 14, 2009 2:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Dunn didn't care?

Did you ask him? Or are you just assuming?

I think Dunn’s problem was that he played on really crappy Reds teams while he was here.

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 18, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

We hate Adam Dunn?

You haven’t spent much time around these parts.

Walk off slam against Cleveland is the easy choice. But I also fondly recall Adam’s rookie year at Wrigley when he bombed one over my head onto Sheffield ave.

by Brian B on Dec 13, 2009 11:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I still love Adam Dunn.

I won’t stop being a Reds fan just because they traded him, but he’s been my favorite baseball player for years and he still is. He was the best Cincinnati Red since Barry Larkin and his offensive ability and sense of humor are missed. He didn’t deserve all the hate he got and while I do miss his presence, I also think it was time for him to move on. I’d welcome him back with open arms, but I’d be absolutely shocked if the Reds did at any point in the future.

by Geki on Dec 14, 2009 1:38 AM EST reply actions  

I miss El Burro.

I loved his OBP and self-effacing attitude.

Give me a lineup of 9 Ryan Freels, and I'll show you a team that can't pitch.

by PeteyHendrix on Dec 14, 2009 2:30 AM EST reply actions  

I can't remember anyone named big Donkey

There is an overriding misconception that Clutch is an overriding misconception.

by Madville on Dec 14, 2009 8:11 AM EST reply actions  

I know that Reds is going good this year. I sense that! As they pick a good lineup here….

by vhick on Dec 14, 2009 8:56 AM EST reply actions  

FAHQ!

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Dec 14, 2009 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

hahahah

Could you PLEASE write an essay that dictates my college career? I love how you OVERPOWER articles, Run on sentences, While still managing to skip a comma.

Start SEEing motorcycles

by Excalib8 on Dec 15, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I also think it's unfair

that Dunn has such a rep for being lazy. You don’t hit 40 HRs every year just from showing up to the game. He’s a bad defender, but I doubt it’s due to laziness. But because the shape of his performance was so polarizing, he became the scapegoat for all the Reds losing. Now he’s gone, and we’re still losing. Any way that the Dunn haters can spin that, it also happens to be a defense for Dunn.

Any time a discussion of Dunn comes up, it always amazes me the way he seems to bring out the strongest and most obstinate opinions and emotions of everyone. I guess strikeouts/low AVG and bad defense are a combo that is unforgivable to a lot of fans, regardless of whether you’re still a good player.

by kcgard2 on Dec 14, 2009 8:58 AM EST reply actions  

Speaking of the Dunner

There was a little photo thing, “path to the pros” on the milb site. Stupid flash you can’t post a link, but go to this page

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/multimedia/galleries.jsp

and go to the 3rd page in November.

by ol Pete on Dec 14, 2009 10:14 AM EST reply actions  

The Reds signed a few guys to minor league deals.

Baseball America reports that Cincinnati signed: RHP Jon Adkins (Lotte (Korea)), RHP Federico Baez (re-signed), RHP Po-Cheng Chi, LHP Alexander Smit (re-signed), C Brandon Yarbrough, SS Chris Burke, OF Kevin West (Winnipeg (Northern))

Adkins went 3-5, 3.70 last season and led the Korean Baseball Organization with 26 saves. He grew up following the Reds and rejoins the organization for which he last pitched in 2008. Adkins’ cousin, Tim, pitched in the reds organization for a while and is a former pitching coach at Marshall. Both Adkins boys starred at Wayne High School, just outside of Huntington.

West was the Twins’ 16th-round pick in 1999 and hit 37 home runs while playing for Winnipeg the past two seasons. In 2009, he batted .285 with 19 HR and 66 RBIs in 94 games.

Yarbrough was in AAA with the Cardinals last season, where in 119 AB he posted a line of 1-12-.286 .393 .387. He is 25.

Po-Cheng Chi is the third players the Reds have signed out of Taiwan. He reportedly was given a $100,000 bonus, which roughly equates to seventh-round money. Chi is a side-armer with a 90 mph fastball. He is said to also throw a slider, a change, a splitter and a sinker.

Smit, some thought, might be selected in the Rule 5 Draft. Obviously, he wasn’t.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Dec 14, 2009 2:54 PM EST reply actions  

Yay, DotCom is back!

There’s gotta be someone in the minors that can be nicknamed Grizz too.

by Brendanukkah on Dec 14, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

About time the Reds sign an Asian player

I suppose there are some other guys that I’m unaware of but Po-Cheng Chi, LHP and Jon Adkins (Lotte (Korea) RHp should add to the diversity of the organization.

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by Madville on Dec 14, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Jon Adkins ain't exactly Asian

and they did have other players already, though I don’t know their names off the top of my head.

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by Slyde on Dec 14, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Danny Graves

That Asian dude did a lot of good for the team, until he started to suck.

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by bbjones on Dec 15, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Tzu-Kai Chiu (bless you) is another Taiwanese pitcher they have in the system currently

The other player is Yen-Wen Kuo, who is an infielder who is best known for being on the Chinese Taipei WBC team.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Dec 14, 2009 4:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I know - just kidding about Adkins

Hey whatever happened to that Bong guy?

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by Madville on Dec 14, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

he went up in smoke

/rimshot!

"Everything you are doing is bad. I want you to know this."

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 14, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Boy, his career went to pot.

"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."

by ZJiff30 on Dec 14, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Yarbrough's stats aren't terrible for a catcher

plus he’s still somewhat young, interesting pickup. Though you’d have to know how he was defensively to make any sort of judgment.

by sharks on Dec 15, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Dunn

Put a good lineup around him so he has protection and his average and hit will improve. The Yankees are a team that would love his patience at the plate and I bet they could get his K’s reduced.

by 1990Reds on Dec 14, 2009 5:21 PM EST reply actions  

Ks are overrated

except on Sesame Street -brought to you by the letter

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by Madville on Dec 14, 2009 6:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I'm recing this Mads.

That girl is quite lovely. Exactly ‘ol Pop’s taste (pre-classy wife, of course).

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Dec 15, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Pops' taste that is.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Dec 15, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

You have a crush on Miley Cyrus?

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by jch24 on Dec 15, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

This kid is right up your alley J.

I don’t know which is stranger her taste in men or lack of taste in clothes…

What nose!

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by Madville on Dec 15, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Your wife looks like Sharapova

Which is pretty damn good.

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by Excalib8 on Dec 15, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

you guys are the smartest baseball fans

but your love for Dunn is shocking. It was always clear to me by his body of work that he did not care to live up to his potential, and there are no stats for that.

by Eastwindquinn on Dec 15, 2009 4:06 PM EST reply actions  

How can you measure his potential though?

His potential is subjective, depending on which scout you talk to. I don’t think anyone expected him to put up MVP numbers as a second round pick. Maybe he could have hit for a better average in the majors, but coming up he’s always been projected as a power hitter and that’s what he is.

As for our love for Dunn here, I think it has more to do that most Reds fans fail to see any value in his game, so when we use stats to back up the fact that he is a pretty damn valuable player, we’re perceived as having more “love” for Dunn, relative to his detractors. I don’t think anyone here thinks he’s Pujols, but we don’t see him as chopped liver either.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Dec 15, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd agree with that.

It never has to be all love or all dislike (Unless it’s Taveras or Patterson etc.). I enjoyed Dunn for what he was, and didn’t despise him for what I thought he should be, which is what a great many Reds fans have done over the years.

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Dec 15, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I call bias!

You clearly like people associated with the letter K, as indicated by your comment above.

by Brendanukkah on Dec 15, 2009 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I would also like to point out

Adam Dunn’s batting average in the minors – .304

Adam Dunn’s average with the Reds – .247

Adam Dunn’s average with the Nationals: .267

Maybe, just maybe, there might be a problem with the coaches at the major league level here in Cincinnati.

An open challenge to RR: Name me two hitters who have significantly improved since they arrived here and credited the coaching staff for that success.

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by jch24 on Dec 15, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Arroyo? Harang?

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by Pops Daniels on Dec 15, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Hatteberg. Aurilia.

LLM, Guillen (though that may just be a few hundred hot PAs), pre-evil D’Angelo…

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Dec 16, 2009 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Dig me up one quote

Hatte was a product of everyday playing time, Aurillia the product of a permanent position and the stability that comes with it. LLM doesn’t count, and Guillen was also a maturation reclamation. Dr. Seuess, eat your heart out.

Oh, and please cite sources where these guys credited the coaching staff with their success. :)

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by jch24 on Dec 16, 2009 2:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I waste a lot of time reading baseball articles

and I can only recall one from the past year where a hitting coach was credited with a player’s turnaround (Ben Zobrist). I’ll grab a pitchfork and join you in chasing Jacoby out of town, but in general it’s pretty hard to pinpoint cases where a hitting coach made a material difference.

by ken on Dec 16, 2009 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought Dunn

credited success to his high school coach. He was stuck in a slump, and he flew his old coach out to a few workouts, and turned things around.

The Reds didn’t pick up on the cue.

"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville

by bbjones on Dec 17, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with ken

because he agrees with me, of course. And you really expect me to come up with sources to counteract the well-researched “LLM doesn’t count”???

In all seriousness, Hatte’s OBP was .389 and 394, and he received ~= playing time to the 4 previous seasons he had with Oakland. The Bad Man had his 2 best seasons he had since 3 years previous, again with a good bump in OBP. LLM was certainly competent: his .326 Reds OBP would’ve put him 4th on the Reds with folks with >400 PAs (Phillips was 3rd with .329, RamHer was 2nd with .336, Hanigan, Rolen, Gomes, Dickerson, Wlad, END don’t quite qualify).

So good things have come out of the Reds hitting coaches, just not out of the players you would want to see improvements from. Its one thing to go from 1 to 1.3 WAR from your bench players, its quite another to see your studs go from 3 to 5.

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Dec 16, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

i was drinking when i typed that, I'm surprised you can read it.

I guess I’m just tired of seeing guys destroy AAA then hit .230 when they get here. The Reds need to hire Tony Gwynn as hitting coach, damnit! He’d love to come here from San Diego I’m sure! Put him on the plane with the Bengals Sunday night, make this happen!

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by jch24 on Dec 16, 2009 2:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

You'd have to redistribute the seating

so that Gwynn is on one side of the plane and the Bengals on the other.

BOOM!

by ken on Dec 16, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

queue up the Andre Smith photo:

"Everything you are doing is bad. I want you to know this."

by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 16, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, I'm not hungry now.

Thanks a lot.

"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."

by ZJiff30 on Dec 16, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Quato lives!

Wear something sexy to my funeral.

by Pops Daniels on Dec 16, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Looks like a double A to me

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by Madville on Dec 16, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Dunn

I never hated him, but I was never in love with him, either. He’s a good player, but not my type.

I don’t think he’s lazy, and the strikeouts didn’t bother me. His bad defense did.

I guess being in NY, I’ve seen far too many all-bat, no-glove DH types. I want outfielders who can, well…field.

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by BubbaFan on Dec 15, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply actions  

and i guess i could never get past that.

I never felt he was a major league outfielder. Seemed like a DH to me (and I wish there was no DH so i could enjoy Al baseball).

by Eastwindquinn on Dec 15, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

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