Going, going, Gomes gone.
Mark Topkin of the St. Pete Times tweets that the Reds indeed non-tendered Jonny Gomes. I don't like it.
Some fairly interesting players being non-tendered today. Can Alfredo Amezaga be an answer at shortstop? How about Ryan Church in left field? Anyone want to take a chance on Scott Olsen? Seth McClung? Chien-Ming Wang? How about Neal Cotts? With Rolen on the River in the fold, Garrett Atkins probably isn't an option. No place for Kelly Johnson, either, and that's probably a good thing.
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Wow, so the Braves got absolutely nothing for Francouer as it turns out
That’s funny.
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Another former hot shot
outfield prospect, Brian Anderson, was let go by Boston tonight.
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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 12, 2009 7:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I still like Brian Anderson
Also, Lance Broadway is available from the same system.
by Brian B on Dec 13, 2009 9:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Between Lance Broadway and Dallas Buck
We’re one Loquacious Jackson away from Dusty Baker’s All-Male Revue.
by Brendanukkah on Dec 13, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
BA' s middle name is Nikola
which just added a whole lot to his cool factor in my opinion
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by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Either that's a family name...
…or he’s named after Nikola Tesla, which is a name I considered for my son, too.
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by PeteyHendrix on Dec 13, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
Cuz Tesla was a bad-ass without whom we would not have RR.
Give me a lineup of 9 Ryan Freels, and I'll show you a team that can't pitch.
by PeteyHendrix on Dec 13, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
Without him we wouldn't have alternating current, radio, television... x-ray technology... induction motors, particle beams, lasers; none of that would even exist if it weren't for him.
“Or the rock band Tesla.”
by Brendanukkah on Dec 13, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions
A world without him
Would be one step closer to a world without frizzy hair.
Start SEEing motorcycles
Lance is now off Broadway.
Toronto signed him.
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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 16, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Toronto, huh?
So, Lance Broadweh?
by Brendanukkah on Dec 16, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey Adam Dunn fans!
Jack Cust anyone? Oakland non-tendered him. Also, the reliever trio of Mike MacDougal, D.J. Carrasco and Brian Bass have hit the market tonight.
I’m sure there will be more to come. I’m interested in what San Diego will do wtih Kevin Correia.
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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 12, 2009 6:59 PM EST reply actions
"Gomes provides the other platoon half for Jack Cust's skills at the plate."
Jonny Gomes (OF) – Dec 12
http://www.rotowire.com/baseball/player.htm?id=7036
Gomes has been non-tendered by the Reds, Marc Topkin of the St. Petersburg
Times reports.
ROTOWIRE RECOMMENDS: He’s always mashed lefties, but Gomes provides the other
platoon half for Jack Cust’s skills at the plate. Unfortunately for them, the
number of teams willing to absorb their lack of defensive skills and try to
put them together are approximately zero.
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by PeteyHendrix on Dec 12, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
It's a nice concept that no one else may want him.
I sure I hope that’s true, cuz I loves me some Gomes.
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by PeteyHendrix on Dec 12, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
What does non-tendered mean...
please discuss for an old man who can’t follow intricate negotiations…
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Howdy Maddy.
Non-tendered means the team didn’t offer a contract for 2010. The deadline for tendering contracts to your own players with at least six years of service is today.
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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 12, 2009 7:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
so, they are allowed to pay them 400k for 6 years straight
but after the 6th year they have to agree on a price? So Votto, Cueto, Bruce, ect are going to be cheap as hell for the next 4 years?
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Well, the basic agreement builds in minimum
increases in salary. Non-tendering applies to unsigned players on the 40-man roster who aren’t officially free agents but who don’t have a contract for next season.
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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 12, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
no
They become arbitration-eligible at three years.
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which I would assume
at least some of our young studs will be.
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maybe Bruce
but Cueto, Volquez, and Votto are on the normal path right now. And for good or bad, I think teams are going out of their way to avoid Super Two status for young players. If they can’t start the season with the big squad, they don’t get called up until mid-season.
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what'll suck is that if Bruce does get Super-Two status
all of those guys will be arb eligible after next season. Along with Masset, Burton, and maybe Bailey. The good news is that only BP and CoCo are signed for 2011.
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Bruce will not be a super 2
That was the purpose of his delayed call up his rookie year.
by Dave from Louisville on Dec 13, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Right, I think he was called up after 6/1
Usually the Super 2 date is some time in late May.
Owings missed Super 2 for this next year by a tie-breaker – thanks Arizona!
Bruce was called up on 5/27
and there are no guarantees in this.
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Hey Dr, T
Thanks for the info…are you ready for Christmas? I’ve lost your email address so I may have to just put my wish list up on RR cause I know you’ll be wanting celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ by among ways, giving…as is taught in the gospel it is better to give than to receive. In order to facilitate that beautiful Christ-like process I’m willing to forgo the joy of giving and be the dull but appreciative guy who receives.
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That's my pal Maddy!
Willing to take one for the team. I bring these gifts for you: Reds tickets to a game TBA, a beverage or two of your choice and dinner on the Turtle. I’ll throw in a free early 2010 draft preview at the position of your choice.
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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 13, 2009 8:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
You da Man Turtle-San
Fabulous… I’ll take Catchers for 200 Alex!
.BTW whatever happened to the pre-season rundown on the top Cheer-leading squads?
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Extensive, exhaustive research.
almost done. Sis boom bah!
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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 13, 2009 12:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This may be a precursor to another move
We currently do not have room for him until they figure out what we are doing with Willy T.
Bruce
Stubbs
Balentien
CDick
Willy T
You really should carry more than 5 OFs on the 25 man. Hopefully this is a precursor to trading for Cruz.
by Dave from Louisville on Dec 12, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
ruserious
More than five OFers? Is this an NL thing?
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You really SHOULDN"T carry more than 5 OFs
Yeah otherwise I contradict myself in the same post
by Dave from Louisville on Dec 12, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
Does Wily count as a fully functional OF ?
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he doesn't but he's still there
I think this is a “sitting duck” period of his career.
by Dave from Louisville on Dec 13, 2009 8:57 AM EST up reply actions
I'd recommend getting Wang
if Dick Pole was still pitching coach.
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by obc2 on Dec 12, 2009 7:16 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
rec'd
But we’d have to also bring back the Ladies’ Choice:

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by PeteyHendrix on Dec 12, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
thanks for a good chuckle!
Still on a high from my Browns beating the Steelers!
Reds fan for 40 years!
that was awesome wasnt it?
it was like that scene in LOTR when the skeleton army rises from the lake to fight for the good guys and slaughter all the orcs. the only problem is, that skeleton army is only fighting for you once. still awesome though.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 12, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Comparing the NFL to Lord of the Rings
Welcome to the internet.
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Is this a Peanuts thing that I missed...Charlie help me out here
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this is my favorite comment ever
Calmer than you are.
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Dec 13, 2009 3:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
green'd
there are times I wonder exactly what you bring to this ’blog but today I know.
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by justin007000 on Dec 13, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
wow
Looks like the Fay was right.
And alas, poor Wanger. I saw this coming, but still. I never would have imagined this four years ago.
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Does he have anything left or is his arm gone?
Could be an interesting pickup for someone if he’s anywhere near healthy.
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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 12, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
It's definitely a risk
And I’m not really objective here, because Wang was my favorite Yankee not named Bubba Crosby.
On the one hand, Wang is only 29. His recent ineffectiveness was due to injury. (Which can probably be traced back to the foot injury he suffered on the basepaths – stupid interleague.). He had shoulder surgery this year, and maybe that will fix it. He is a good guy, more mature than average, never a problem in the clubhouse, will to do anything asked of him. I have no doubt he’ll work hard to get healthy. When he’s good, he’s very good. A heavy sinker at 96-97 mph, and a bunch of other pitches to fall back on if necessary. (The Yankees actually told him to drop some of them. He’s one of those guys who loves to learn new pitches, but they felt it wasn’t good for his arm to throw so many. Maybe they were right.) He was the Yanks’ ace for a couple of years. And he’s very good on defense, too – a good thing for a groundball pitcher.
OTOH, shoulder surgery is always iffy for a baseball player. And Wang has a history of injury.
A lot of the beat writers were puzzled at how the Yanks treated Wang. They took him to the mat when he became arbitration-eligible, and won. Meanwhile, players like Robinson Cano and Melky Cabrera got big contracts. The media found that baffling, because Wang is such a good guy (while Cano and Cabrera…well…aren’t – at least not always).
Cashman said the reason was that pitchers are always at higher risk of injury than position players, so he wasn’t going to sign Wang to a big contract until it was necessary. I guess he was right.
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I would take a flier on him
With Rolen, Janish and BP we can afford a lot-K guy with lots of grounders. Plus his HR rate is really low. Of course, I’m not sure how much comfort I’d have from Kremchek signing off on the health of a guy.
I wonder who would out-bid for him
its not like there aren’t a lot of GMs out there who get wide-eyed at “2-time 19-game winner”
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cheap bastards
on second thought, im rescinding my apology to Walt regarding Hernandez. he can keister that contract for all i care.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 12, 2009 7:59 PM EST reply actions
Looking at recent C signings, Walt might have done all right
on Hernandez. Ivan Rodriguez got two years and $6 million from the Nats, and Jason Kendall got essentially the same deal from KC.
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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 12, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
yes, thank you
i think walt knew what was coming with the catcher market. if not, he got really lucky.
the kendall signing is a joke, though. i’d feel bad for kansas city fans if they
i’d feel bad for kansas city fans
How about feeling worse for them (if that’s even possible)?
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Dec 14, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
i realize that
which is why i apologized earlier for criticizing him. but if having Hernandez, even if it’s a good contract for a catcher this winter, means not re-signing Gomes, then im mad again.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 12, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
truth
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by PeteyHendrix on Dec 13, 2009 1:20 AM EST up reply actions
Add 4 Mets to the list.
Cory Sullivan, Tim Redding, Jeremy Reed and Lance Broadway are on the market.
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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 12, 2009 8:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
San Diego appears to have
re-signed Correia for $3.6 million. He’d have drawn quite a bit of interest on the open market.
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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 12, 2009 8:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Add two Brewers to the NT list:
Mark DeFelice and Mike Rivera. Also, Seattle cut lose the well-travelled Ryan Langerhans.
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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 12, 2009 9:03 PM EST reply actions
I'm pretty surprised
Did they even consider his trade value? As it stands, the move reads like they’d rather give $2M to Hernandez than about $1.5M to Gomes apparently. And if they did it to clear space to pay Counsell, it’s even worse. The only saving grace would be if an imminent deal for Nelson Cruz or Maicer Izturis hangs on that $1.5M or so.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Dec 12, 2009 9:19 PM EST reply actions
They still could bring Gomes back, but
probably won’t. I’m curious as to why they didn’t deal him (if there was any interest) or cut him loose before the Rule 5 Draft. That would have allowed them to have put Jukich on the 40-man roster or to have made a selection themselves. Even if they didn’t see anyone worthy of taking, they likely could have worked out a draft-and-trade deal that would have netted a $100,000 or so in cash.
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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 12, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
I think they wanted to try to get him for below arb
and probably had an upper limit for what they wanted to pay. If they couldn’t bring Gomes’ people down, they have two potential LFers in the minors who hit lefties extremely well, one of which plays much better defense.
Heisey (vs LHP minors): .344/.419/.510
Frazier (vs LHP minors): .334/.406/.576
I’m okay with that thinking to an extent, but neither of these guys has even played a full year at AAA. They haven’t proven they can hit in the majors, let alone for the power the Reds need from LF. And it doesn’t seem wise to get nothing in return for Gomes or the roster spot he represented, especially over what was likely less than $750,000.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Dec 12, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
good bye , 2010?
Like I didn’t know that anyway. Still, if you want to re-build, then do it already and stop with half-measures (or int his case, a quarter measure)
I'm guessing
it was Cantu all over again. They were hoping they could get him for cheap. When it became obvious they couldn’t, they cut him loose. Which was too late for the Rule 5 draft.
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1.5M sounds a little low
Is that from an article?
Interesting to see so many non-tenders. Arbitration usually nets a player substantially less than what they’d get on the free agent market (40-80%). But it’s very possible that the arbitrators won’t properly account for the downgraded market and base their findings on comparable players who signed a year or two ago. The teams certainly believe this.
It's a figure that's been thrown around
probably based on the 40% calculation in the 40-60-80 continuum. If you make it a round $2M, then it looks like the Reds chose to spend that extra cash on Hernandez and not Gomes, while probably saving a little flexibility for SS, where they felt there was a lack of depth. I can’t fault that thinking, but why they went full Cantu with him makes no sense to me.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Dec 13, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Another fairly interesting player
just hit the market. Tampa Bay non-tendered Gabe Gross. So, if anyone needs an outfielder/quarterback, he’s the guy.
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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 12, 2009 9:28 PM EST reply actions
for old times
can’t we have the sombrero picture?
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by Slyde on Dec 12, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 12 recs
Vaya con dios, mi Gomes
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by Cy Schourek on Dec 12, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
you wont stop
until you make this weekend the worst weekend ever, huh?
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 12, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
it will be comfirmed that slyde is the antichrist when he posts today that my dog has died, my wife has left me for my best friend, or that willy t was given a contract extension
"Some times you get lucky; some times you get Willy Taveras." - Teh Fay
Don't be so hard on yourself
Willy would never get a contract extension.
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Sounds like a country song.
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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 13, 2009 12:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
rec'd
bravo
Give me a lineup of 9 Ryan Freels, and I'll show you a team that can't pitch.
by PeteyHendrix on Dec 13, 2009 1:21 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, man...I feel you
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I had no strong feelings
either way about keeping Gomes. His numbers in 2009 seem inflated based on his career and he also had a tendency to follow a “good” year with a very bad one. He was a bad fielder and slow baserunning who really had only one skill; he’d hit an HR every 15-20 ABs. His lifetime numbers against righties weren’t very good either. At $1 or at most $1.5 milion for one year I could have seen the Reds retaining him as a 4th OF, but he apparently thought his 2009 numbers deserved more. I don’t think what he would have produced this year will be that hard to replace; we have an in-house candidate who looks like a similar player in Balantien (with better D if not yet showing ML power) and possibilities like Francisco, Frazier and Heisey who look like better players.
Hopefully this means that either A) Dickerson will be the front runner for the LF job; or B) They’ll make a hard run at someone like Cruz.
It's easy to forget about Ovaltien
Did you know that he *can play CF? Also hes young enough to pull a *Jay Bruce in 2010! Did you know also know that he is from the Netherlands? No he really is from there, I read it online.
*representations may be slightly embellished
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I can never type his name in correctly in BBRef
It’s sad, really
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by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Did his family invent the drink?
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I like Dickerson
but if he’s the everyday LF, the Reds are in even bigger trouble offensively. They’ll basically have no power from anywhere but 1B, 2B, and RF. So, hopefully they’re going after Cruz.
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IF
less than 30 HRs is “no power” than that statement would be accurate. However, I can easily see us getting 15-20 HRs from C, 3B, CF and LF depending on who Dickerson splits time with.
by no1marauder on Dec 13, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
A few more interesting names
hit the market overnight. Matt Capps was a surprise. Pittsburgh had offered him to Milwaukee for JJ Hardy. Instead, they get nothing.
Angels release Jose Arredondo the same day they announce he’s having TJ surgery. Ex-Red Dustin Moseley also made available by the Halos.
KC cut loose John Buck. Is he really worse than Jason Kendall?
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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 13, 2009 8:09 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Need a World Series hero?
Anthony Reyes cut by Cleveland. Jose Veras and former No. 1 prospect Adam Miller also let go. The Giants cut ties with former Indian Ryan Garko.
Would all these non-tenders make a decent expansion team?
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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 13, 2009 8:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
hmmm, from my Marlins preview
I said Still 23,
but reaching Homer Bailey territory for the Marlins, complete with this great big red flag: “has been battling control issue and right knee tendinitis. His knee improved over the winter, and he will unveil a new delivery to help reduce the impact on the knee.”
43 walks in 80 innings later…whattayaknow?
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by Cy Schourek on Dec 13, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Cleveland re-signed Reyes & Miller
to minor league deals. That didn’t take long.
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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 13, 2009 4:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sounds better than the Nationals roster.
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by PeteyHendrix on Dec 13, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone longing for former Red
Phil Dumatrait? He’s available. How about a speedy, light-hitting CF? Josh Anderson is your guy. Add Phillies RP Clay Condeey and Angels IF Matt Brown to the mix, along with D-Back 1B Josh Whitesell.
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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 13, 2009 8:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
haven't we seen a coouple of speedy, (very) light hitting centerfielders lately?
hmmmmmm …
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I have in my possession
an 11″ × 15″ picture of Mr. Dumatrait. It belongs to another RR, not me.
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Scratch Buck.
Toronto reporedly signed him, along with Raul Chavez and Joey Gathright.
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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 13, 2009 2:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe we'll see us some Todd Frazier out in LF this ST
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lets hope that El Nino destroys the ball in spring training ...
ROAR!
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and that he can actually field a ball in LF
I’d be fine with him as the LF, assuming that he hits well enough make up for his defensive inadequacies, or vice versa.
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Slyde has it right.
Give me a lineup of 9 Ryan Freels, and I'll show you a team that can't pitch.
by PeteyHendrix on Dec 13, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
Nelson Cruz
Can someone tell why his name keeps popping up here as someone the Reds should or could trade for? Has there been some indication that Texas wants to deal him? Why would they ever do that?
by Brian B on Dec 13, 2009 10:28 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Because he would be a really nice fit for the Reds, silly!
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There were rumors a while ago that some teams, Reds included, had called about him
but no indications the Rangers wanted to trade him.
Given his cheapness, recent production, and that he’s under team control for four more years, I can’t see the price tag being worth it.
Would you give up Frazier, Francisco, and Wood for him? I could see it costing that much.
If I hear the word 'perky' again, I'll puke
im not interested in Cruz
he’ll be 30 next July and he just had his first good year in the Bigs. forgive me if that doesnt impress. i’d rather go with Dickerson/GomesBalentien platoon and save the prospects for another deal.
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by Charlie Scrabbles on Dec 13, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
I'd love a Heisey Dickerson platoon
if Heisey can hit lefties like he has in the minors. It wouldn’t provide much power though – which is where the Gomes signing would’ve made sense (and where My Wladdy Balentien might come in). I just don’t understand why they couldn’t get something for Gomes… my sneaking suspicion is that this presages another crappy move we don’t like.
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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Dec 13, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Well anybody know whats up with Laynce Nix?
Doubles machine extraordinaire…I’m the only one but I’d take him back.
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Laynce Nix can blow me.
And here’s a hot female athlete:

Pardon me, but I have some drunk bowling to do. ;)
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by PeteyHendrix on Dec 13, 2009 6:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Here's a woman bowler worthy og your lust Pete

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As my father would say, "LARDASS!"
Give me a lineup of 9 Ryan Freels, and I'll show you a team that can't pitch.
by PeteyHendrix on Dec 13, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
I'd take Nix for the bench, since he can play all 3 OF positions
… and has an oddly playced Y in his first name.
Jonny? Y at the end? That’s so passe….
by Highlifeman21 on Dec 15, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
well Bubba, Buster Olney is reporting
the Reds and Yankees are interested in Brian Giles. How do you like that?
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by Thundering Turtle on Dec 13, 2009 12:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions
He's got to be better than last year right?
I mean he couldn’t be any worse. For 1 mil I say go with it. I like him better than Gomes.
Giving the names of some people that were non-tendered I would rather give minor league contracts to 3 of those guys than have 1.5 mil invested in Gomes. He would have gotten that in arbitration.
by Dave from Louisville on Dec 13, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Was he hurt or something last year?
by Dave from Louisville on Dec 13, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Giles' 2009 is chronicled...
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by PeteyHendrix on Dec 13, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
I was scooped by hours and didn't check well enough. :P
Give me a lineup of 9 Ryan Freels, and I'll show you a team that can't pitch.
by PeteyHendrix on Dec 14, 2009 2:25 AM EST up reply actions
Good call check this out
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/sports/Padre-Accused-of-Abuse-Sued-for-10-Mil.html
Watch the video of him setting her straight. I think it would be wise for the Reds to take a pass on Giles this year.
by Dave from Louisville on Dec 13, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Check out this article
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-worst-regular-in-baseball
and this gem of a comment
As a Padre fan. It does not get much worse than Brian "the only thing I can hit is my girl" Giles. Giles is simply pathetic. Everyone who’s grown up in this area knows he was on steroids as early as his high school years. That, combined with his affection for tanning booths, make him the most pathetic person in the game today. Then add the fact that he tried to counter-sue his girlfriend for abuse on him? Sack up Giles, and start pretending that ball is your girl and maybe you finally get some hits
by Dave from Louisville on Dec 13, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Giles? Seriously?
Why not give Danny Tartabull a call while you’re at it Walt?
I hear Pat Listach plays a slick SS too. Jeezus.
Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.
by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Dec 13, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
I think
the Yankees will probably sign a corner outfielder. Hopefully not Giles.
Many Yankees fans think Melky Cabrera will play left field, but I find that idea ridiculous. If his stick isn’t good enough for CF, it’s sure not good enough for LF.
But Damon’s arm, never very strong, is pathetic these days. I think they’re hoping to upgrade, and move Damon to DH (if he’s re-signed).
For some reason, they don’t seem to be keen on keeping Swisher. Rumor is they’re trying to trade him. Fans love him, but I wonder if his playfulness is rubbing the corporate Yankees the wrong way.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
BTW Begals vomitting in mouths and pooping in their pants against Brett
There is an overriding misconception that Clutch is an overriding misconception.
uh, riiiiiiight
They’ve only had the easiest schedule in the history of professional sports.
by Brian B on Dec 14, 2009 9:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
uh, riiiiiiight
They’ve only had the easiest schedule in the history of professional sports.
by Brian B on Dec 14, 2009 9:04 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think I've heard this once before, but can't quite place it
Could you cite a source please?
"Santa Claus doesn't use Craigslist." -- 'tHan
Honestly i'm not that phased by this
Gomes is a guy who has put up an OPS+ under 100 twice in 2 of his 5 seasons. He has only played in 100+ games 3 times, never played more than 117, he is a terrible defensive outfielder, his defense last year negated much of his value, so his WAR was only .6, he has put up a WAR over 0 twice, last year and in 2005.
His career statistics make it seem like his offensive numbers could fall off a cliff again next season. Yeah he may have had some trade value, but I doubt anything worthwhile, that made signing him worthwhile.
Yeah it sucks that T-Virus is a part of this team, and Gomes is a better option than Taveras, but he probably won’t be a huge lose.
"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion
You're a huge lose!
Sorry, I’m disappointed and I’m lashing out. I didn’t mean that.
by Brendanukkah on Dec 13, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
That's really impressively bad
if his OPS+ was under 100 twice in one season.
"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."
then what is it if he's done it twice in 2 different seasons?
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That's worse than me trying to make fun of justin
and messing it up.
"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."
So maybe there's still hope
Jocketty says they still want to bring him back, just didn’t want to be locked into arbitration.
Walt also said they’re close to “getting something done” with Nix.
Congrats, Mads.
If I hear the word 'perky' again, I'll puke
I was already looking up Heisey splits
Him and Juan have some seriously SLG
Start SEEing motorcycles
Damn, he looks like Bruce in the face.
Wear something sexy to my funeral.
by Pops Daniels on Dec 14, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
White people from the south maybe
Where the gene pool is shallow at best. Sorry Pops.
Start SEEing motorcycles
Honestly, I have the toughest time telling you white folks apart sometimes.
Give me a lineup of 9 Ryan Freels, and I'll show you a team that can't pitch.
by PeteyHendrix on Dec 15, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
Scott Olsen re-signed with the Nats.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Dec 13, 2009 9:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Just don't get
all the teeth-gnashing and wailing over this. After how many games next year will someone say, “Wow, we’d have won that game if Jonny Gomes were still on the roster.”? More games will be decided by balls that Janish either gets to or doesn’t.
The man who will one day be President is, at this moment, lying in his cradle, trying to find some strategic way to get his big toe in his mouth.
-Mark Twain
about 1.
"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion
by justin007000 on Dec 14, 2009 3:41 AM EST up reply actions
more than 1.
In fact, I bet we complain every time Taveras or Dusty’s scrub-of-the-day steps to the plate.
by Brian B on Dec 14, 2009 9:10 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
as a result of this thread?
Probably about 83.
"The USA despite its flaws and corruption and overall messiness is still a great and powerful instrument of freedom and hope for the entire world." - Madville
well i guess if Gomes puts up a WAR around 1
and Will-T puts up a WAR below 0 then i see your point.
"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion
by justin007000 on Dec 14, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Gomes IS a WAR of 1.
When Jonny Gomes jumps into water, he doesn’t get wet. The water gets Jonny Gomes.
People just want something to be passionate about
and Gomes was a well-liked player. When all your team does is little moves, you’ll have to forgive people who want to care if they blow the little moves out of proportion. It’s just being a fan.
Plus, this team is shit on offense and they just released control of one of the few guys that might actually be able to hit.
To your Janish point, I’d say more games are going to be decided by at bats where Janish fails batting in front of Votto. Then again, I have no idea why this is relevant to Gomes.
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For all the bullshit we hear from management about leadership and "character guys"
they sure did piss it away with Gomes. I mean, “apparently” of course, since I have never actually played with the guy.
by Brian B on Dec 14, 2009 9:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Gomes sure talked to Fay like he wasn't askin' for much cash.
Give me a lineup of 9 Ryan Freels, and I'll show you a team that can't pitch.
by PeteyHendrix on Dec 15, 2009 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
And the mouse ate the cheese

There is an overriding misconception that Clutch is an overriding misconception.
Leadership and character guys
is FO speak for “we are not going to spend money, so we acquired these crappy players but now we have to spin it in a positive light.” You might prove they can’t help us win games, but you can’t prove they don’t have great leadership.
No Jamey Carroll in the stocking.
He signed with the Dodgers.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Dec 16, 2009 8:53 PM EST reply actions
And our good friend Ray Olmedo
signed a minor league deal with the Rangers.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Dec 16, 2009 9:15 PM EST reply actions

























