Friday Five: Best Reds Teams That Didn't Make the Playoffs
One of the charming things about baseball is that it typically really means something if you get to the playoffs. If your team is good enough to survive 162 games with a great record, you most likely are one of the best teams in the league. The downside of that is that you can still be a very good team and not make it to the playoffs. Here are 5 such Reds teams.
1. 1974 Reds - 98-64, .605 Winning PCT, 776 RS, 631 RA
You had to guess that a team full of Big Red Machine players would top this list. 1974 was perhaps the strangest season of failure in the history of baseball. Most teams wouldn't have considered 98 wins to be a failure, but if you listen to the players from that team talk about it, you'd have thought they finished in 4th place. This team was essentially the same team as the one that won it all in 1975, but Pete Rose played LF and Dan Driessen played 3B with George Foster splitting time from the bench. Their 98 wins were the 2nd most in all of baseball, and they would have won the NL East by 10 games that season. Unfortunately for the Reds, the Dodgers finished with 102 wins that season and without a Wild Card, the Reds were sent home early that year.
2. 1999 Reds - 96-67, .589 Winning PCT, 865 RS, 711 RA
Since the Wild Card was added to the playoffs in 1995, only one team has won 95 or more games and failed to make it to the playoffs. A season that started with very little expectation - they were playing just .500 ball after 44 games - saw breakout seasons from Sean Casey (132 OPS+) and Dmitri Young (111 OPS+). Veterans Greg Vaugh (117 OPS+, 45 HR) and Jeffrey Hammonds (117 OPS+) led an unlikely crew to the most wins for the franchise in 23 years. And yet, it still came down to a final playoff game with the New York Mets. Stupid Al Leiter!
3. 1962 Reds - 98-64, .605 Winning PCT, 802 RS, 685 RA
Only twice in MLB history has a team won 98 games and finished in 3rd place. In 1908, the Cubs won 99 games topped both the Pirates and the Giants by 1 game to win the National League. In 1962, the Reds won 98 games and actually finished 3.5 games behind the NL Champion Giants, who needed a 3-game playoff to get past the Dodgers. That season saw the Pirates win 93 games and finish 4th, thanks in large part to the expansion New York Mets who managed to go just 40-120. This Reds squad featured an incredible year from Frank Robinson (173 OPS+, 51 doubles, 39 HR, 136 RBI) and very good seasons from Vada Pinson, Wally Post, and Gordy Coleman. They also had a strong pitching staff headed by Bob Purkey (23-5, 2.81 ERA) and Joey Jay (21-14, 3.76 ERA), but the team was unable to follow up the World Series appearance of 1961 with anything better than 3rd place.
4. 1981 Reds - 66-42, .611 Winning PCT, 464 RS, 440 RA
Only one time since World Series play started has a Reds team won at least 61% of their games and not made the playoffs. Only twice since World Series play has a team with the best record in baseball not played a playoff game. In 1981, the Reds finished the season with 2 more wins than any team in the league, but because of the strike that year and the silly way that the playoffs were determined, the Reds found themselves at home during October. The pitching staff that year was anchored by Tom Seaver (14-2, 2.54 ERA) and Mario Soto (12-9, 3.29 ERA). The offense featured starters at every position with OPS+ of 105 or better, except for 3B where Ray Knight posted a 95 OPS+. It is a traveshamockery that they didn't make the playoffs that year, and for that they get to be on this list.
5. 1956 Reds - 91-63, .591 Winning PCT, 775 RS, 658 RA
Led by the highest scoring offense in the National League that featured 3 of the top 7 home run hitters in the NL, the Reds battled with the Dodgers and Braves for NL supremacy until the last days of the season. Besides the excellent rookie campaign by 20-year old Frank Robinson (143 OPS+, 38 HR), this team also had the likes of Ed Bailey (143 OPS+, 28 HR at catcher), Ted Kluszewski (133 OPS+, 35 HR), Gus Bell (121 OPS+, 29 HR), and Wally Post (108 OPS+, 36 HR) setting a franchise record for home runs that stood until 2005. Unfortunately for the offense, the pitching was rather mediocre and the Reds finished in 3rd place, 2 games behind the NL Champion Giants.
There are a couple of other teams that I know could easily be on this list. Who do you think deserves to be here that has been left off? Do I have them ordered properly? Let me know what you think!
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I'm still outraged about the 1981 team
And I was three years old at the time.
-j
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by JinAZ on Nov 6, 2009 10:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I originally had them as #1 on my list
but then I realized that they were 9 games over their pythag. So, maybe Karma had something to do with them not making the playoffs. :)
Definitely a good argument.
by Slyde on Nov 6, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what the heck happened that year?
How does the team with the best record not make the playoffs?
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by BubbaFan on Nov 6, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There was a strike in the middle of the season
It was resolved, and play continued. It was determined that the team with the best record from the first half and the team with the best record from the second half would represent the leagues in the playoffs. The Reds had the second best record in each half season, but the overall best record on the season, and thus were screwed.
(I’m doing this from a fuzzy memory. Someone correct me if I got the details wrong.)
by Brendanukkah on Nov 6, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also Slyde
What was the other time that a team had the best record in baseball and didn’t play a playoff game? 1994?
by Brendanukkah on Nov 6, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds right to me, Brendan.
The MLB pulled a total boner that season. My grandfather lost serious interest in baseball because of that.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Nov 6, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of people did
i was down at the Puljols grand slam game in July with the fiances family, her dad used to love baseball, talked endlessly about the Big Red Machine, and the 1990 team, but he lost interest after the strike that he never regained.
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by justin007000 on Nov 6, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that just seems
really dumb. Why change the rules just because of a strike?
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by BubbaFan on Nov 6, 2009 6:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hi, this is Major League Baseball
have we met?
Definitely a good argument.
by Slyde on Nov 6, 2009 6:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why change the rules?
Because no is really paying attention anyway. Let’s just call it a tie! Also, they have the most strongest drug testing in the world . . . according to Bud Selig.
by Brian B on Nov 6, 2009 11:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
1st half NL West:
LAD: 36-21
CIN: 35-21
MLB really should’ve devised a better system. It’s a crime they lost the first half because LAD got in one more game due to scheduling vagaries.
by ken on Nov 7, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Because of the strike, the season was split in half
minor league style. The division winners from the first half (Dodgers and Phillies, Yankees and A’s) played the division winners from the second half (Astros and Expos, Brewers and Royals).
This sort of worked OK for the American League, as Milwaukee and Oakland had the best overall records in their divisions. Still, the Yankees made it to the World Series despite finishing with an overall record worse than Milwaukee and Baltimore in the AL East.
It was a disaster in the National League, as the best record in the West and in all of baseball belonged to the Reds, who were left out. Also staying home were the Cardinals, holder of the best record in the NL East.
From the Vida Blue non-trade to the 1981 playoffs, Bowie Kuhn always found a way to stick it to the Reds.
In the sham of a playoff, the Yankees beat the Brewers, Oakland beat Kansas City, then New York beat the A’s. Montreal defeated Philadelphia, the Dodgers topped the Astros, then Los Angeles beat the Expos. The Dodgers beat the Yankees 4-2 in the World Series.
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by Thundering Turtle on Nov 6, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the Vida Blue non-trade
Per Wiki, Kuhn also cancelled a proposed sale of Blue to the Yankees the preceding year. Both deals were struck bc they were “bad for baseball.” How did I not know about this?
by ken on Nov 7, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This was back in the day when a team was only allowed Negro starting pitcher per team
Bowie Kuhn thought Santo Alcala was black because he had a non traditional non white name. It was only later that he learned that Alcala was Dominican.
In his defense Kuhn was reported to have said:" How was I supposed to know ? They all look alike."
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Mads.
by Madville on Nov 7, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Reds likely would have been a relatively heavy favorite
in the playoffs. They had more offensive firepower than St. Louis, Oakland or Milwaukee. Defensively, Cincinnati was plenty good enough. The Reds bullpen was no great shakes, but none of the other three were outsatnding, either.
The Reds’ top three SP — Seaver, Soto and Berenyi — were better than the St. Louis combo of Larry Sorensen, Bob Forsch and John Martin; Oakland’s Rick Langford, Steve McCatty and Mike Norris; or Milwaukee’s Pete Vuckovich, Mike Caldwell and Moose Haas.
Sure, anything can happen in a short series, but I would have liked the Reds’ chances.
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by Thundering Turtle on Nov 6, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No love for 1994?
Strike that, they had a winning percentage lower than the aforementioned five teams (.579).
by FordhamRam on Nov 6, 2009 10:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Raise your hand if you remember Brian Dorsett
He played 76 games at catcher that year. And as much as it sucks that we were in first place when the season was canceled, it’s gotta sting even worse for Indians and Expos fans. The Expos were 74-40 with a team that included Cliff Floyd, Pedro Martinez, 16 game winner Ken Hill, a surprisingly strong season from Butch Henry (8-3, 175 ERA+), dominating seasons from Moises Alou and Larry Walker, and a bullpen that included John Wetteland and Jeff Shaw.
by Brendanukkah on Nov 6, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The strike killed that franchise
because if they had won, they likely would have been able to hold on to a bunch of those players.
Definitely a good argument.
by Slyde on Nov 6, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Expos, Indians, Gwynn's run a t .400, Matt Williams' run at 61.....
That strike dicked up all kinds of stuff.
"What'd I say?"
by jch24 on Nov 6, 2009 10:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, Williams was juicin'
Definitely a good argument.
by Slyde on Nov 6, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Best QB in the Big Ten ...
seriously, some Chicago radio wanker said that following the OSU/Illini game this year.
“How does Zook continue to lose? He has all those weapons — the best receiver and the best quarterback in the Big Ten.”
I almost went off the road.
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by Farneyismycopilot on Nov 6, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Griffey had a shot at 61 too
He was my favorite player back then. I was supposed to go to a doubleheader at Jacob’s Field to watch him play. Stupid strike.
by Snake the Jake on Nov 6, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i had orgotten about Jr somehow, damn
That was the year before he hit 56, right?
"What'd I say?"
by jch24 on Nov 6, 2009 11:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
He only hit 17 in 1995 because of injuries
In 1994, he hit 40 in 111 games.
by Snake the Jake on Nov 6, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
'95 was the year he ran into the wall making a great catch, iirc
Broke his wrist.
by ken on Nov 7, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They are one of the teams that could have made the list
but I figured they would have made the playoffs, had there been playoffs, so I left them off.
Definitely a good argument.
by Slyde on Nov 6, 2009 10:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1999 still hurts for me....
If only I could have made it to the game I would have been the good luck charm they needed! Incidentally I found my unused ticket from that game the other night while cleaning stuff out of the garage, bringing the pain back to the surface.
"What'd I say?"
by jch24 on Nov 6, 2009 10:31 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Ouch
I still blame the Milwaukee series disaster for forcing the game against the Mets that year. I’ll probably never get over it. Loved that team. Pokey Reese, baby! -j
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by JinAZ on Nov 6, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i watched the MIL series in horror
Then stayed in town(lived in Lexington at the time) to wait in line at Thriftway to get tickets the next morning. Tjen my POS car broke down on the way to pick up my friend before the game, stranding me in rural Boone County, KY. Pisses me off to think about it to this day.
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by jch24 on Nov 6, 2009 10:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
oh i should have scrolled down.
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by justin007000 on Nov 6, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I recall a game against Montreal earlier in September
Reds had a three run lead and the bullpen leg it go. It was a game they never should have lost. I remember knowing that that game was going to mean someting.
by Brian B on Nov 6, 2009 11:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I have to say that the 99 season
gave me my irrational hatred of Milwaukee. Every time we beat them now, I think, “Why couldn’t we have just won one stinking game…”
I come into every season thinking now that we are better than the Brewers, and am usually proven wrong. :(
"I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball" - Pete Rose
by Officer Dibble on Nov 9, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what the fuck is wrong with you
you had a ticket but didn’t go?
Unless a personal tragedy struck that day in which I apologize.
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by justin007000 on Nov 6, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
eddie taubensee
was on the juice for sure in ‘99. it’s retarded that he even came close to those numbers.
i’m going to say greg vaughn was too… for his entire career.
by GrooveLeg on Nov 6, 2009 11:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Surely not, Vaughn had such a pleasant disposition....
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by jch24 on Nov 6, 2009 11:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
This picture is way too big and I apologize for that
but I don’t think Eddie is the only Taubensee with performance enhancers:

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by Cy Schourek on Nov 6, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1965 Reds - 89-73; 825 Runs Scored, 704 Runs Allowed
I know it doesn’t quite fit the style here, but the pythag record for the ‘65 Reds was 93-69 which, if the entire league had magically determined all team records from the pythag record would have put the Reds in first instead of fourth. I guess it’s that karma thing.
In ‘65 the Reds came into the season with Dick Sisler as the manager after Fred Hutchinson had just passed away from cancer after leaving mid-season in ’64. The Dodgers won in ’65 with the best pitching in the league, but the Reds had the best offense in all of baseball…and it wasn’t even close. The Reds scored 825 runs. Milwaukee had the second most runs in the NL….with 708. Each of the top 11 (Eleven!) defensive players had an OPS+ over 100. 9 guys had double digit home runs.
The pitching was admittedly mediocre, but Jim Maloney had his best year as a starter and the Reds did lead the league in strikeouts by pitchers (but also in walks).
This was the start of the transition to the Big Red Machine. Rose bat .300 for the first time, Perez started to get serious playing time as a platoon partner for Gordy Coleman, and the Reds drafted Johnny Bench in the second round of the ’65 draft. The ’65 team though still belonged to Johnny Edwards, Leo Cardenas (who had his finest season in ’65), Vada Pinson, and Frank Robinson.
Baseball is a silly game sometimes, and sometimes that pythag record just taunts the fans with what might have been.
by beckryac on Nov 6, 2009 2:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What a franchise for up-the-middle talent...
…it sure makes you wish we had that talent now.
by beckryac on Nov 6, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cincinnati in 1962...
…had to have a lot of sports hope. Not only were they coming off the WS, but Oscar Robinson had one of the finest seasons any NBA player has ever had for the Cincinnati Royals in 1961 when he averaged (over the whole damn season!) a triple double – 30.8 ppg, 12.5 rpg, 11.4 apg. Of course, it should be noted that the Royals, as a team, weren’t particularly good. Must be something about the name.
It makes you wonder what Cincy would be like with a relevant NBA franchise.
by beckryac on Nov 6, 2009 2:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Columbus is working on trying to find a roommate for the Blue Jackets at Nationwide Arena
and getting an NBA team has been floated as a possibility. if they cant figure something out the BJs are likely out the door.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 6, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A saw a ranking several years ago that Nationwide Arena was the nicest sports venue, or some such
I’ve never been inside. How is it?
I’ve only been to the Arena District in Columbus once or twice. I just remember them serving ridiculously large, inexpensive beers at concerts. And that Ben Lee is a waste of oxygen.
by Brendanukkah on Nov 6, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ive never been there either
i havent been to a concert in years and i likely wouldnt go to one in such a huge venue. and im not a hockey fan, though Mrs. Scrabbles and i are determined to go to a game this season. so i’ll let you know in a little while.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 6, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah
and i saw Ben Lee at a $5 dollar show some years back. he played with like 4 other acts, including Ash and the Black Keys. it was worth it.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 6, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm, Ash played at that show that I saw him too
Which was primarily why I wanted to see it. Other acts included the Bravery and the Dresden Dolls. Even seen a Dresden Dolls fan? Just check a high school locker.
by Brendanukkah on Nov 6, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the show was at the PromoWest Pavilion
Not at Nationwide Arena itself.
by Brendanukkah on Nov 6, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah!
i was there too! that show was brutal. i think we were on our feet for something like 8 straight hours that day.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 6, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would have bought you a ridiculously large, inexpensive beer
Small world.
by Brendanukkah on Nov 6, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i was right up front and center
i went with a buddy of mine who’s a stickler for that kinda thing. we had to always be right up front because he’s like 5’5".
if you had bought me a beer, i would have bought you two. dont test my kindness.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 6, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You were friends with Farney back then?
No way!
by Brendanukkah on Nov 6, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha
actually you met him. he was the little fella that came with me to the RR outing in July.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 6, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah we all met farney
the little fella at the rr outing in july
Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,
by 'tHan on Nov 6, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm 5'7, fuck-os. Get it right.
/I know that’s short
And, I remember your friend Charlie.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Nov 6, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
of course you do
He was the only guy you could high five without jumping.
/I keed, I lurv you farney
"What'd I say?"
by jch24 on Nov 7, 2009 12:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Nationwide really is a brilliant facility and easily one of the best places in
North America to see a hockey game. It was built with hockey in mind, but basketball (NCAA/Big Ten tournaments) is also excellent there. As a concert venue it has nice acoustics, but there are far better venues in Columbus. Stuff like the circus, pro bullriding, MMA and the Arnold Classic also work very well there.
It’s easily one of the best arenas anywhere and is pantsdown the best indoor venue in Ohio. That said … the bitch is expensive to keep up.
Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans
by Farneyismycopilot on Nov 6, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've been to a few hockey games and a concert or two
Its aiiight, but not much different than seeing a game or concert in the Schott.
The cannons are a nice touch for the hockey games, but they have to warn the crowd that they can be quite loud before the games.
"I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball" - Pete Rose
by Officer Dibble on Nov 9, 2009 9:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is there such a thing as a relevant NBA franchise?
I mean outside of the Lakers and Celtics?
The entire league has been pretty much irrelevant since Jordan retired.
"I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball" - Pete Rose
by Officer Dibble on Nov 9, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the Cleveland LeBrons are relevant
by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 9, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Only until he leaves
and then who? The Knicks?
At least Bird had Magic to compete with.
"I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball" - Pete Rose
by Officer Dibble on Nov 9, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dont you ever, ever, ever say that again
LeBron isnt going anywhere! he’s gonna stay with us forever, like Pete Rose!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 9, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was 13 when the '62 Reds cmae in 3rd
The only major player difference between ‘61 and ’62 was the loss of an aging Gus Bell.
The Reds came in 3rd that year…they were a killer team but it wasn’t to be.
TSide note: hey had at the time the best pinch hitter in baseball Jerry Lynch.
I gave up working out. My philosophy: No pain... no pain. ...
Mads.
by Madville on Nov 6, 2009 2:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You never wanted to throw that man a hanging curve
by Brendanukkah on Nov 6, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. If you did, the result was a frozen rope.
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by Thundering Turtle on Nov 6, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A dead pull hitter, if I recall
"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"
by "Red" Moskau on Nov 9, 2009 6:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice list
Here are my top Reds teams who didn’t make the playoffs (in order)
1896
1974
1999
1962
1904
1956
1898
1890
1994
1923
by mhowes666 on Nov 6, 2009 4:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I intentionally left out pre-world series teams because I wasn't sure what sort of playoffs they had then
Definitely a good argument.
by Slyde on Nov 6, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I figured and was thinking of doing the same thing
I think the 81 team is one of the more interesting. great W-L record but not a great run differential.
by mhowes666 on Nov 6, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I think they deserve to be on the list mainly because they got jobbed
in any other year, they would have qualified for the playoffs.
Definitely a good argument.
by Slyde on Nov 6, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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