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The Greatest Reds: #95 - #91

95. Sam Crawford

Played as Red Primary Position Career Rank Peak Rank Prime Rank
1899-1902 RF, LF, CF 108 46 92
Percent Breakdown of Value Best Season Best player on Reds
Hit Field Pitch 1901 Never
88% 12% 0%
Awards/Honors as a Red Leading the League On the Reds Leaderboard
Inducted to Hall of Fame – 1957 Home Runs – 1901
Total Bases – 1902
Triples – 1902

- 2nd in single-season triples (1902)
- 5th in career OPS+
- 5th in career batting average
- 13th in career slugging percentage
- 20th in career triples

This hall-of-famer—and an absolutely legitimate one at that—began his career with the Reds for four short years, and showed tremendous promise (leading the league with 16 HR and posting a 167 OPS+ as a 21 year old in 1901) as a nascent superstar. After the 1902 season, bidding wars popped up all over the league as NL and AL teams begun fighting for player services. Crawford signed contracts with both the Reds and Tigers, and a judge awarded his talents to the Tigers, where he played 15 more seasons, eventually becoming the all-time leader in triples (still standing).

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94. Chuck Dressen

Played as Red Primary Position Career Rank Peak Rank Prime Rank
1925-1931 3B 101 69 79
Percent Breakdown of Value Best Season Best player on Reds
Hit Field Pitch 1927 1927
63% 37% 0%
Awards/Honors as a Red Leading the League On the Reds Leaderboard
N/A N/A

- 14th in career AB/K ratio
- 19th in career sacrifice hits
- 31st in single-season sacrifice hits (1927)

Dressen had an abrupt and exaggerated career path, in which he didn't break into the majors until age 26, became a decent player at age 27, posted a peak season at age 28, and was washed up by age 30. His peak season saw him finish 3rd in the NL in doubles, 9th in triples, and 5th in walks, to accompany typically above-average defense. After retiring as a player in 1933, he was hired late in 1934 to manage the Reds, which he did for portions of four seasons, never posting a winning record in any of them. Much later, he skippered two pennant winners for Brooklyn in the 1950’s.

93. Ivey Wingo

Played as Red Primary Position Career Rank Peak Rank Prime Rank
1915-26, 1929 C 69 154 104
Percent Breakdown of Value Best Season Best player on Reds
Hit Field Pitch 1919 Never
61% 39% 0%
Awards/Honors as a Red Leading the League On the Reds Leaderboard
N/A AB/K Ratio – 1917

- 17th in career sacrifice hits
- 20th in career triples
- 29th in career games played
- 44th in career plate appearances
- 48th in career hits

One of the executive decisions made in putting together this list was to give "extra credit" for outstanding post-season performance, where applicable. Wingo’s work in the 1919 World Series boosted him 4-5 slots on this list, despite appearing in only 3 out of the 8 games in the Series that year. As part of an inextricable platoon with Bill Rariden that year (Wingo 1919 OPS+: 114, Rariden: 70), Wingo made the most of his World Series playing time, reaching base 7 of the 10 times he came to bat. When Wingo retired in 1929, he held the NL record for most games played at catcher.

92. Wally Post

Played as Red Primary Position Career Rank Peak Rank Prime Rank
1949, 1951-57, 1960-63 RF, LF, CF
77 91 125
Percent Breakdown of Value Best Season Best player on Reds
Hit Field Pitch 1955 Never
84% 16% 0%
Awards/Honors as a Red Leading the League On the Reds Leaderboard
N/A N/A

-7th in career slugging percentage
-8th in single season total bases (1955)
-11th in career home runs
-25th in career RBI
-38th in career runs scored

I had remembered reading about Post as a 1950’s era slugger, and was surprised to see his numbers to be so unspectacular. His peak season was pretty good: .309 average, 40 HR, 109 RBI, 143 OPS+, but he never again approached anything like that. In the pennant-winning season of 1961, he combined with Jerry Lynch to form a very strong platoon in left field, and was one of the few bright spots in the doomed series. What I find fascinating with Post are the Reds’ transactions related to him: after a very bad 1957 season, the Reds sent Post to the Phillies for Harvey Haddix; Post played well for the Phils for 2.5 seasons, then came back to the Reds in 1960. Haddix also pitched quite well in his one season for Cincy, but after that year was packaged with Smoky Burgess and Don Hoak for four players who played a combined 216 games for the Reds—all with poor results. Meanwhile, Haddix went on to pitch one of the most famous games in history, Burgess turned into a perennial all-star behind the plate, and Hoak put together a couple strong seasons, including one where he was the NL MVP runner-up.

91. Rube Bressler

Played as Red Primary Position Career Rank Peak Rank Prime Rank
1917-1927 1B, LF, SP, RF, RP 76 125 104
Percent Breakdown of Value Best Season Best player on Reds
Hit Field Pitch 1926 Never
74% 14% 12%
Awards/Honors as a Red Leading the League On the Reds Leaderboard
N/A N/A

-4th in single season batting average (1926)
-6th in career batting average
-8th in career on-base percentage
-31st in career triples
-35th in career OPS+

One of only five players since 1900 to appear in at least 50 games as a pitcher, and 50 games as a non-pitcher (a list that includes Babe Ruth and Joe Wood), Bressler was uniquely talented, though at the end of the 1920 season, one might have projected an early end to Bressler’s career, given his frequent injured status and his subpar hitting stats. In 1921, however, Bressler committed to a full-time position player role, and gradually improved his hitting to the point that over the three-year period from 1924-1926, he was a consistent .350 hitter, with consecutive OPS+ marks of 133, 131, and 147.

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There are some all-name honorees between

Ivey Wingo and Rube Bressler.

I’m shocked at Post’s numbers as well. My grandfathers used to speak of him as if he was one of Cincy’s greats.

Maybe they just liked him because he was a good guy from St. Henry, Ohio who would pop into the bars around town and just shoot the shit like an average guy? I was also told that he played beer league softball in St. Henry until he was in his late 60s.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Nov 3, 2009 12:14 PM EST reply actions  

Correction, that should be late 40s.

He died at the age of 52.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Nov 3, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

FWIW

I saw Wally Post play when I was kid. He had a great baseball name for his era.

Now I’d hate to hear what RRers would come up with.

To understand Israel and the Middle East, you must understand Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. -Glenn Beck (former cocaine addict and pedophile.)

by Madville on Nov 3, 2009 3:52 PM EST reply actions  

Is my computer weird or is the formatting for RR different?

Did I miss a post explaining it?

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Nov 3, 2009 7:26 PM EST reply actions  

It's a lot cleaner

I gotta say I’m a fan

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Nov 3, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

You like gutter hookers!

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Nov 3, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

they are going to continue tweeking it

the big topics being discussed right now are the headline fonts and the excessive whiteness. No idea when they plan to make modifications to it.

Definitely a good argument.

by Slyde on Nov 3, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn

Sbnation is racist.

by Brian B on Nov 3, 2009 9:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

do they think they're facebook or something?

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Nov 4, 2009 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope y'all voted today

To understand Israel and the Middle East, you must understand Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. -Glenn Beck (former cocaine addict and pedophile.)

by Madville on Nov 3, 2009 10:15 PM EST reply actions  

Nope. There were absolutely no elections held today in my city.

Seriously. Never seen anything like it. There was not a single issue or anything. It was rather amazing.

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Nov 3, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

oh so you can post an american flag

but i can’t post an image of two lego-people having sex…

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 4, 2009 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

BTW

I didn’t delete your post because of the picture. I deleted it because I felt like you were going out of your way to take a shot at “Jesus radio” or whatever you called it. We don’t need that kind of stuff on here.

I deleted Madville’s because he was being a smart ass.

Definitely a good argument.

by Slyde on Nov 4, 2009 7:09 AM EST up reply actions  

just assume that I'm going to delete anything that shows bare asses from here on out

we let a lot of stuff slide here language-wise, but I have to draw the line somewhere.

Definitely a good argument.

by Slyde on Nov 4, 2009 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Great, there goes my next burger write up

Back to the drawing board I guess…..

"What'd I say?"

by jch24 on Nov 4, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Drawing board?

You’re one of those 1-in-8 people that compulsively draws penises, aren’t you?

by Brendanukkah on Nov 4, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

how many did he tag up there?

14 or so? and that poor old couple that walked by and looked down because everyone was looking down. i saw her mouth the phrase, “well, i never!”

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 4, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought Ash and I counted 13 (because we're perverts)

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Nov 4, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

i couldnt remember the official count

but i knew one of you would come through for me. pervert.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 4, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

No problem.

/drives to topless bar

Eighty-five percent of the f*ckin' world is working. The other fifteen percent come out here. A f*ckin' playground for the cocks*ckers.
-Lee Elia on Cubs fans

by Farneyismycopilot on Nov 4, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

this is how communism starts

I hope HUAAC calls you in.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 4, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Crawford's an interesting guy

He has to have the most valuable post-Reds career. 15 mostly full seasons of 144 OPS+ ball. Robinson has better rate numbers but nearly a thousand less games, post-Reds.

Crawford was instantly a star in Detroit but was eventually overtaken as the alpha male with the emergence of Ty Cobb. Cobb thought Crawford was jealous, and since he was hard enough to get along with they had a frosty relationship that extended well into retirement. But after Cobb died, Crawford found out that Cobb had lobbied heavily for Crawford to be inducted into the HOF.

by ken on Nov 3, 2009 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

What's that in his hand? It's a copy of Rambo!

He was a fan of your work all along, Mr. Stallone. No… No, wait. It’s a porn. It’s Rambone. IT’S RAMBONE, PEOPLE!

by Brendanukkah on Nov 4, 2009 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

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