Sabermetric Review of the 2009 Reds, Part 1: Overview
Let's start by comparing this year's team to the other Reds teams of the '00's:

Blue line is runs scored above average, red line is runs allowed "above" average (positive = good), and the green line is overall runs above average (RSAA + RAAA). The latter stat will track pythagorean W% very closely. All data are park adjusted using Patriot's 5-year regressed park factors.
We all know this, but the last good Reds team was Griffey's first year and Jack McKeon's last. After that, Bowden's ragtag assemblages stopped working, and the Reds bottomed out in 2003-2004. A combination of Dan O'Brien, Wayne Krivsky, and Walt Jocketty oversaw the 2004-2009 teams, which have tended to come in somewhere around 55 runs below average (expected 74 wins or so).
What's fascinating to me about these teams over the last five years is that they've gone about posting their marginally below-average records in such different ways. The 2005 team was, by a massive margin, the most unbalanced team in Reds history in terms of runs scored and runs allowed (next closest were the 1944 & 1976 Reds teams, but the disparity of the 2005 team was 30% larger). The defense (pitching + fielding) made a huge comeback in 2006 with Arroyo's fluky season and one of Harang's best, but the spectacular 2005 offense largely evaporated, especially over the last two months of the year.
2007 saw the offense rebound but the defense slide. But over 2008 and now 2009, we've seen a steady shift in a team that is becoming more focused on pitching and fielding, and less on offense. 2009's team ultimately had the best run prevention of any team since 2000. What's that? You don't think of the 2000 club as a team with great pitching & fielding? I didn't either. But NL teams scored 5.0 runs per game that year compared to 4.4 runs per game this year. So, you can more or less subtract a half-run from each pitcher's ERA in 2000 to compare them to this year's run environment. It was a different world!
2009 Season breakdown begins after the jump.
By the numbers:
| Record: | 78-84, 0.481 (10th in NL) |
| Runs Scored: | 647 (15th in NL) |
| Runs Allowed: | 695 (9th in NL) |
| Pyth Record: | 76-86, 0.467 (10th in NL) |
| Offense: | 0.308 wOBA* (last in NL) |
| Pitching: | 4.47 FIP* (13th), 4.51 tERA (12th) |
| Fielding: | +59 Runs (1st in NL) |
| eRS*: | 629 (15th in NL) |
| eRA*: | 730 (9th in NL) |
| Component Record: | 70-92, 0.432 (13th in NL) |
(Notes on table: everything's park adjusted to the degree that this is possible. wOBA is a comprehensive offensive rate stat on OBP's scale, and reports properly weighted impact of all hitting events as well as complete baserunning from BPro; FIP and tERA are both fielding-independent measures of pitching quality, on the same scale as ERA; Fielding is based on UZR and THT's team fielding stat, as well as "my" catching statistic; eRS and eRA are estimated runs scored and allowed based on offensive and defensive statistics, and Component Record is simply a pythagorean record based on eRS and eRA).
Non-statspeaky summary of table: offense was lousy, pitching wasn't great either, but the fielding was freaking awesome. Overall, a below-average team. And they might have been a bit lucky, too.
How the season unfolded.
Here's the Reds' sparkline, courtesy of the Hardball Times. If you haven't seen these before, "upticks" mean a win, "downticks" mean a loss, red games are close, and black games in this case are (as I set it up) won by more than three runs. I've added a few notes reflecting my personal feelings about the team over the course of the season.
I swear, the Reds do this to me every year. They start out kind of decent, then collapse, only to pick up again at the end of the season when it's hard to find the motivation to watch them. Even so, it was hard not to be at least pleased by their performance over last week and a half of games. I guess that's what playing Houston & Pittsburgh will do for you, though.
Here's another look at the same thing, again from Hardball Times.
Cardinals sure exploded in August, eh? And, living in PA, I have to also sympathize with poor Pittsburgh...
As much as I enjoyed the Reds' ascent back into mediocrity in September, I can't help but think that they might have done little more than negatively affect their position in next June's amateur draft...
In future installments, we'll look at the 2009 Reds players: hitting, fielding, and pitching. Stay tuned!
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i think the most telling thing
is how surprisingly bad the pitching was. a ~4.50 FIP or tERA isnt God-awful, but it really illustrates just how important the improved defense was this season. if the Reds are seriously entertaining trading Arroyo or Harang, they better have one hell of a backup plan because the staff is deceptively thin.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 23, 2009 11:49 AM EST reply actions
what makes you say that
because after a front 6 of Harang, Arroyo, Cueto, Bailey, Maloney, and Owings
You get into the likes of Wood, Lehr, and LeCure?
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by justin007000 on Nov 23, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
im saying that lineup of guys may not be as talented as you'd like to think
by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 23, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
well that is also true
Bailey still had some interesting peripherals over the final 6 weeks, Cueto has yet to prove he can be a solid pitcher the course of a 200 inning season, and Maloney hasn’t done anything at the big league level, and Owings is a bad pitcher.
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by justin007000 on Nov 23, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Although Dusty seems to have the same idea as justin.
Scary, eh?
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Slyde,
his peripherals are awful. Last year his k/9 was 5.1 and his BB/9 was 4.8. That is bad. He averaged 5 1/3 innings per start, that is bad. His WHIP in the rotation was 1.64, that is bad. His WAR was -.3. His FIP was 5.67.
Tell me how any of those stats equal good pitcher, or even decent pitcher?
I will argue that the fifth spot is a black hole for most teams, and Owings probably doesn’t fair too terribly compared to many other 5th starters. I will also say that compared to the guys who filled the 5th spot in 2008 Owings was much better than them.
I think there is something wrong with Owings’ shoulder. There has been a drop off in his velocity, in 2007 he averaged 90 mph, in 2008 his average fastball was 88.9 and last year his average fastball was 88.2. That is a bit of a drop off for a pitcher who is 26 years old.
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by justin007000 on Nov 23, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Never said he was good
but I don’t judge him on just last season alone. I agree that he might be injured, perhaps to the point of being done as an effective pitcher, but I’d take a healthy Owings in the 5th spot of the rotation over any of the crap that has been there the last 5 years. There have been far too many bad pitchers in the Reds rotation this decade for me to consider Owings to be a bad pitcher.
Definitely a good argument.
As bad as last season was for him...
it was as good as the third-best starter’s season in 2005. Well, not quite as many starts, but identical ERA+ (80) and pretty close peripherals.
So yes, I agree that he wasn’t great or even good, but we’ve all seen far, far worse out of a #5 starter for the Reds.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
On Owings
It’s because of him that I’m explicitly pitcher hitting as part of their value. Stay tuned to see the effect… :)
-j
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How about
hitter pitching?
Fangraphs knocked half a million off Janish’s value because of his relief pitching. ;-)
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Hehe
The problem there is that they’re using the wrong baseline. Pitchers get a massive position adjustment on their hitting (essentially they have a much lower baseline). Hitters should get the same special treatment when pitching!
I’m leaving that alone. :)
-j
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so we aren't there far off on what we think of Owings
This article on fangraphs claimed that in the minors Owings fastball ranged between 88-91, topping out at 95. Furthermore it says that in the bullpen he was between 94 and 97.
I wish I could see the velocity of Owings’ fastball in his relief appearances last year compared to as a starter. I just think if Owings has a future with his lackluster stuff it is in middle relief.
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by justin007000 on Nov 23, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
and I guarantee you that if Cueto had thrown 200 innings this year
you, of all people, would have been shitting yourself in complaints about Dusty abusing pitchers.
Definitely a good argument.
I'm also saying that in the past two seasons Cueto has had to spend time on the D.L. due to an arm ailment.
Yes I am a little hyper about Dusty’s use of Cueto. I should have said Cueto has yet to prove he can pitch a full season with out missing time due to arm issues.
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by justin007000 on Nov 23, 2009 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, those were some horrible...
pitching + defense performances in 2003-2005. I certainly don’t miss those times. But I had also forgotten that the offense was that great in 2005.
Baseball Reference has someone at every position with an OPS+ over 100 (with 144 and 141 from Jr. and Dunn), plus Wily Mo Pena at 105 and Freel somehow playing 103 games and still managing an OPS+ of 96. I guess he could do that back when he was young.
But Brandon Claussen was the second-best starter, and by a wide margin: the next best starter was Ramon Ortiz, with an ERA+ of 80. Add in 16 starts from Luke Hudson (ERA+: 67) and 34 from Eric Milton (66), and I can see why pretty good seasons from Mercker (117) and Weathers (108) plus almost-decent performances by Belisle (97) and Coffey (95) couldn’t salvage things that year.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
Brandon Claussen
The fans were so upset when the Yankees traded him.
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I was convinced that Claussen's 2005
was going to be Harang’s 2004. I was at this game and I thought I was looking at a future ace. Ok, at least a future mediocrity.
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I thought the same that you did
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by justin007000 on Nov 23, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
saddly his shoulder blew up
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by justin007000 on Nov 23, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know that Yankee fans really expected that much of Claussen
They were just so hungry to see a young prospect, and he was the closest thing they had.
Back then, one of the Yankees blogs used to post lyrics from a folk song about a farm where nobody harvests the fruit, it just rots on the ground.
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same in cincinnati
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by justin007000 on Nov 23, 2009 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
Somebody on Mark Sheldon's latest article
found here, think of Bronson Arroyo as “Mr Consistency..year in year out.”
Consistency is probably the one word I would not use to describe Arroyo. That’s why we have “Goodroyo” and “Badroyo”
Definitely a good argument.
Yes, but you have Goodroyo and Badroyo...
consistently.
Let me write out a formal proof for you.
by Gray on Nov 23, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Definitely a good argument
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by "Red" Moskau on Nov 23, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Shame on you
Really.
You, more than anyone here throws out the “small sample size” mantra whenever someone comments “Pitcher X sucks” because of a month of bad outings or “Hitter Y is clutch!”. Yet, when someone dares say that Arroyo is consistant, you bring out “Goodroyo and Badroyo”.
I looked. By FIP, Arroyo has been pretty consistant since ‘05: 200+ IP, 4.15-4.78 FIP. Some of his peripherals have wandered in that stretch (k/9 was much lower in ’05 and ’09 than the other 3 years, bb/9 was high in ’08; leading to k/bb varying a bit), but some have been remarkably consistant (HR rate since coming to Cinci (can’t really compare to ‘05); WHIP). Still, at the end of the year, you know what you’ll have: a solid #2/3 guy who’ll give you over 200 IP. How is that not “consistant”?
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no, shame on you!
I really was just trying to make a wisecrack. It’s mainly because I hate the word consistency, which so often is used in place of “good.” I did a lousy job of making a consistent joke, I suppose.
Definitely a good argument.
im in awe of your ability
to consistently make lousy jokes.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 23, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
uh-oh
Bronson’s spending all his time on his boat. Without an Internet connection.
I guess that means his harem has to wait until they get back to post complaints about his sexual prowess on the Internets.
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some idiot didnt vote for Joe Mauer for MVP
i bet it was the same loser who voted Verlander over Greinke too.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 23, 2009 2:56 PM EST reply actions
Good grief, is it April yet?
I mean, I’m enjoying the Bengals’ resurgence, and it’s always fun to watch the Buckeyes. Heck, you can even get excited about the Cavs these days… But nothing thrills me like a good game of baseball.
Only 128 more days…
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U.C. beat Vanderbilt today
that is something.
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