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Mark Sheldon tweets it. I think we all expected Nix to get nixed with so many better, cheaper options, and Thompson shouldn't be a surprise either. Dude's been riddled with injuries. Remember his debut at Yankee Stadium though? That was awesome.

MLBTraderumors
also says Craig Tatum was claimed off waivers by the Orioles. Plenty of roster clean-up going on with deadline to set the 40-man fast approaching.

Update
at 4:04 PM (by BK):
We have a list of players added to the 40-man roster:
RHP Enerio Del Rosario
OF Chris Heisey
RHP Logan Ondrusek
RHP Jordan Smith
IF Chris Valaika
LHP Philippe-Alexandre Valiquette
LHP Travis Wood

No shockers there, and Wood and Heisey get protection from the Rule 5. Anyone you think should have been protected but wasn't?

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Del Rosario, Heisey, Ondrusek, Jordan Smith, Valaika, Valliquette, and Travis Wood were added to the 40-man roster. all had to be protected from the Rule 5 draft.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 20, 2009 4:06 PM EST reply actions  

Gotcha covered, slick.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Nov 20, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks BeeK

i think Smith is a bit of a reach. i would have liked to see Dorn protected, but he’s no big loss if he’s drafted. i would have rather left Smith off the roster and kept that last spot for a pick in the Rule 5. maybe Burton and Hamilton spoiled me, but i think we could get lucky.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 20, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Dorn fell off the face of the planet last year

After his strong season in 2008, he was a 4th outfielder last year for the Bats, behind guys like Darnell McDonald and Lew Ford. Low draft pick + inability to sustain success = non-prospect.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Nov 20, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I still think he could have some value as a 4th OF in a platoon situation,

but it definitely isn’t risky to leave him unprotected. I doubt he’ll get drafted. It sure seems like the Reds don’t like him, though. After that awesome 2008 season he wasn’t even invited to ST this year.

If I hear the word 'perky' again, I'll puke

by nycredsfan on Nov 20, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, and I'm not sure why they protected him over Jukich

I could definitely see him getting drafted, which is a shame. I thought he would be in the crowd for the 5 starter spot in ST.

If I hear the word 'perky' again, I'll puke

by nycredsfan on Nov 20, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Jukich

Tops out at 87 MPH most games and works 84-86. He is a non prospect.

by dougdirt on Nov 20, 2009 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

i always kinda looked at hims as a filler

i called for his callup though, over the likes of wells and lehr. Just to make sure.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 20, 2009 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Dorn started slow, finished on fire

Dorn hit .324/.393/.551 after May ended (243 PA) with 20 walks and 41 strikeouts. The guy has a career line against RHP of .312/.394/.552. There are some American League teams who need a DH who absolutely 100% should draft Dorn and start him every day at DH that there is a right hander on the mound.

by dougdirt on Nov 20, 2009 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, and i didnt realize

that this means Thompson made it through waivers. he’s still with the Reds, just not on the 40-man. Tatum was claimed and Thompson wasnt. wow.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 20, 2009 4:16 PM EST reply actions  

Tatum may have more value next year

Thompson is a huge project.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 20, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

right

i think it illustrates how far Thompson has fallen. dude was one of the best pitching prospects we had the past few years. and now…hell, he may never see the bigs again.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 20, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

TINSTAAPP

Definitely a good argument.

by Slyde on Nov 20, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

especially multiple ones.

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Nov 21, 2009 3:12 AM EST up reply actions  

emmm, re: justin.

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Nov 21, 2009 3:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Shoulder injuries are tricky.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 20, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Dorn being left off surprises me a little

heisey, ondrusek, valiquette, wood, and valaika were the five I would have for sure protected. del rosario would’ve been next. I may have chosen dorn over smith myself, but I don’t know anything about smith really, so I don’t trust my opinion on that much anyway.

I love that not even he knew that he scored and he continued to try to put it in - Evilducks

by sharks on Nov 20, 2009 4:17 PM EST reply actions  

Smith had some injury problems last year

But he could still turn into a middle of the rotation guy.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Nov 20, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember hearing that somewhere now that you mention it

dallas buck is the only other guy I can think of that might get picked. maybe jukich.

I love that not even he knew that he scored and he continued to try to put it in - Evilducks

by sharks on Nov 20, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

We didn't have to protect Jukich or Buck

Or else I’d put them on over Valiquette.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Nov 20, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

you sure?

This was the list I’ve been going off of

I love that not even he knew that he scored and he continued to try to put it in - Evilducks

by sharks on Nov 20, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Nevermind, I think Jukich is eligible

In which case I’d have protected him over Valiquette

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Nov 20, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, really? Jukich is unprotected?

Huh.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Nov 20, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Buck too, according to this list Doug made

Link

The way I saw it, Buck wasn’t eligible since he’s only been playing professionally for 3 years (2006 draftee, but 2007 was his first season). Jukich has 4 under his belt, but only 3 with the Reds.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Nov 20, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

There is NO WAY someone drafts Buck

He’s not even nearly ready for the bigs. It would essentially be playing with a 24 man roster for a season.

If I hear the word 'perky' again, I'll puke

by nycredsfan on Nov 20, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

24-man roster, eh?

I bet the Reds draft him.

Definitely a good argument.

by Slyde on Nov 20, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

it would be a 23-man roster

remember, we still have Taveras!

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Nov 21, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree, but isn't Valiquette in a similar situation?

Not only that, but Jukich is much closer than both of those guys, and he wasn’t protected. After a solid season last year, and a spring training under his belt last year, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a team take a chance on him in a long relief role.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Nov 20, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, and I'm not sure why they protected him over Jukich.

I could definitely see him getting drafted, which is a shame. I thought he would be part of the crowd for the 5th starter spot in ST.

If I hear the word 'perky' again, I'll puke

by nycredsfan on Nov 20, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

by "part of the crowd"

do you mean he buys a ticket to watch the other guys compete in Spring Training games. I know I’ve listed him on my own personal starting pitching depth chart but he is really far down. I figured he may see time in the Majors if the Staff is decimated by injuries, but really he probably will have a Justin Lehr like career at best.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 20, 2009 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Terrell Young much?

That kid was not even close to ready and he went with the first pick. Sure it was Jimbo trying to stick it to the Reds perhaps, but crazier things have happened than taking a good arm coming off an injury and hiding them at the back off a bullpen or several rehab stints in the minors in order to acquire them on the cheap.

by dougdirt on Nov 20, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

especially with his injury issues

he will need some minor league time to get right. Although somebody may draft him, claim he’s injured and let him spend 30 days on Minor League rehab. But still you are probably right.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 20, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly

I’m surprised at how high the organization is on Valiquette. He hasn’t been that good, but I can’t think of a pitcher I would have put on over him to protect.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Nov 20, 2009 4:20 PM EST reply actions  

Lefty who throws consistent 93-95

That is why the Reds are high on him. Tough to find guys like that.

by dougdirt on Nov 20, 2009 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

It is true

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 20, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

As a lefty I protest...well I mean that makes me angry

those are fighting not very nice words. If my left heel wasn’t bruised I’d ask you to take those words outside..I mean if that’s OK with you…pussy my mangina!

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 20, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

i knew you would get it

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 21, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

That man owes America the biggest "I told you so" ever.

The man who will one day be President is, at this moment, lying in his cradle, trying to find some strategic way to get his big toe in his mouth.

-Mark Twain

by poojols on Nov 21, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

OOTP X is high on him too

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 20, 2009 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Nix refused outright assignment?

He coulda been a contender…Oh well
we didn’t a veteran player who could play all 3 OF positions and hit for power from the Left side on our bench,,,we got

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 20, 2009 4:41 PM EST reply actions  

I'm really glad they protected Del Rosario

He could see action with the Reds at some point this season. It wouldn’t have been surprising at all to see him drafted.

So is the 40 man full again or is there still space?

If I hear the word 'perky' again, I'll puke

by nycredsfan on Nov 20, 2009 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

40-man roster is full, according to Sheldon

Link

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Nov 20, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

So no Josh Hamilton this year :-(

If I hear the word 'perky' again, I'll puke

by nycredsfan on Nov 20, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Never know

They can still drop someone between now and then if they want to pick someone.

by dougdirt on Nov 20, 2009 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

this please

I love that not even he knew that he scored and he continued to try to put it in - Evilducks

by sharks on Nov 20, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

eh

it’s not like Tatum made me hot

Definitely a good argument.

by Slyde on Nov 20, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

An update on former a former Red

Robert Manuel was claimed off waivers by the Red Sox

by Hype Machine on Nov 20, 2009 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

Noooo

They’re leaving the Soul-Sucker exposed to Rule 5?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 20, 2009 6:43 PM EST reply actions  

true...

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 20, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

ask Brendan

He’s the “Twilight” fan.

Me, I’m wondering if his hair stays that fwoopy when he puts a baseball cap on. Do his supernatural powers help him avoid “hat hair”?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 20, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

why is twilight such a polarizing book

It seems like mindless garbage to me, not worth getting worked up over from either side.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 20, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not just mindless.

It’s fairly misogynist: the “true-love” involves a lot of the characteristics of an abusive relationship.

IAN! I'm on traain!

by andromache on Nov 21, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Not enough sex

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 21, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I was thinking more

the traditional romance novel.

I have some friends who write them, and apparently you need a certain number of sex scenes per book. If there aren’t enough, the editor will send it back and tell you to add more.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 21, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

those are boring.

anita blake is a human having sex with werewolves, vampires, werepanthers (?), weretigers (?), Swanmane, and others!*

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by 'tHan on Nov 21, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

better tell Madville

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 21, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I am writing one for Slyde...I'll finish it as soon as he signs the contract

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 21, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

If I ever see some sparkling guy...

I will hit him so hard that something bad happens to him. Permanently.

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Nov 23, 2009 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

that seems homophobic.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 23, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

And ?

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 23, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

He'd hit that?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 23, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

C'mon

He did a good cover with Queen

by Excalib8 on Nov 23, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Fay thinks Thompson getting outrighted means they'll offer Gomes arb

Not sure why one leads to the other, but I hope he’s right.

If I hear the word 'perky' again, I'll puke

by nycredsfan on Nov 20, 2009 8:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

more precisely, I think it means they are committed to keeping Gomes

they surrendered a decent prospect to keep him on the roster, so they aren’t just going to dump him. Then again, maybe they’ve got enough interest on the trade market to make it worth their while.

Definitely a good argument.

by Slyde on Nov 20, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

Cripes, that was ridiculous.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 20, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Lets not use gang 'lingo' this is a family site

You don’t know how many ‘Bloods’ may be reading this…

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 20, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

nope

here is what happened.

Walt-I want give

fuck it i’m no madville, i have no idea how this makes sense.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 20, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Jon Heyman

says the Reds are among the most active sellers (along with the Marlins, Tigers, and Royals).

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 20, 2009 11:13 PM EST reply actions  

it would be an emotional punch to the gut to see Harang sold

since he was the first solid starting pitcher the Reds have had since Pete Harnisch. Plus his value is in the tank right now, and honestly I think he was trending up, his ERA was going down, he was pitching deep into games. I think he suffered a hick up thanks to the rain delay, but honestly I think he could have finished strong like Bronson, reached the 200 inning plateau, and got his ERA below 4.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 20, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

actually i retact my statement about the rain delay game

The rain delay occurred in his second to last start in May, his last start in May he sucked, but he put up an ERA of 3.38 in June. In his 5 June starts he threw 7+ innings 3 times, he knocked out after 2 innings because of a 2 hour rain delay, and he had one start he only pitched 4.2 innings. He actually had a bad July with an ERA of 6.60. But even so that was somewhat screwed by Dusty’s use of him. Remember the July game where he gave up 5 in the first, but then threw 6 scoreless innings and Dusty let him pitch the 8th with almost 110+ pitches under his belt? So 7 innings of 5 run ball (which isn’t good for an ERA) turned into 7 innings of 7 ER ball (which is even worse).

I think Harang’s ERA was bloated due to some bad luck, and misuse. It seemed like last year the opposition was just “hitting ‘em where they ain’t” when Harang started.

I’m predicting Harang to return to top of the staff material next year with 220 innings, 200 K’s, and an ERA in the range of 3.6-3.9.

I just hope he does that in Cincinnati, rather than somewhere else, because I’m guess right now if the Reds trade him they will eat some of his contract and not get much in return. I’d hate to see the Reds get a mid level prospect and pay $4-6M so Harang can pitch else where.

Honestly Harang might be my favorite Red, and if they can get the right price I would like him to extend his tour in Cincinnati.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 20, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

Usually don’t rec stuff that doesn’t make me laugh, but it’s good to see some passion from Justin— aside from the frustration we all show with the indecision and lack of direction from the front office.

Besides, I love me some Aaron Harang. Love the story about him riding his bike around the city as part of his conditioning. Dude pitches with a lot of heart and will do anything for the team. Reason # 941 why I’d make a lousy GM— I feel emotional loyalty to players like that and it gets in the way of business.

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on Nov 23, 2009 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

The Yankees

added a slew of youngsters to the roster, and outrighted Shelley Duncan (the other son of Dave Duncan) to make room.

This is the second time Shelley’s been outrighted. He therefore has the right to refuse the assignment, and he’s said he’s going to do it. He plans to become a free agent if he clears waivers.

The Yankees were never too keen on him, but I think he might be a very good hitter for someone. He’s corner outfielder/first baseman, but his defense is not impressive, and neither is his baserunning. He can rake, though.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 21, 2009 12:01 AM EST reply actions  

Boooo

whew im getting my sea legs back.

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by The Crushinator on Nov 21, 2009 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Dunno, I think of Shelly Ducan as more of a Replacement

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by RijoSaboCaseyWKRP on Nov 21, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Wasn't Duncan on the receiving end of a Gomes tackle?

That’d make for some clubhouse chemistry!

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on Nov 23, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

The Fay

got some news from Jockstrap:

I just spoke with Walt Jocketty he said he hopes to work out a deal with Jonny Gomes in the next few weeks.

The club made an offer to Laynce Nix, but Nix elected to go the free agency route.

"They still may take it," Jocketty said. "But they want to see what’s out there. We weren’t comfortable with what the arbitration figure would be. With Gomes, we wanted to keep some protection. I still think there’s a chance we’ll get something done with him."

Jocketty said it’s a good sign of the depth in minors that the Reds had to add seven players to the 40-man to protect from the Rule 5 draft. They added RHP Enerio Del Rosario, OF Chris Heisey, RHP Logan Ondrusek, RHP Jordan Smith, IF Chris Valaika, LHP Philippe Valiquette and LHP Travis Wood.

"We struggled with it," he said. "It’s a very good sign. It shows the top of the minors is getting better. We would have added two or three more if we could."

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by BubbaFan on Nov 21, 2009 6:01 PM EST reply actions  

phenomenal

Laynce is a 25th man on the roster type of player. Now lets see Taveras be unceremoniously released. Stubbs, Bruce, Gomes, Dickerson, Heisey in the OF. I can dig it.

"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK

by obc2 on Nov 21, 2009 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Balentin is around too.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 21, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

unfortunately

Laynce is more like a 21st man on the Reds roster

Definitely a good argument.

by Slyde on Nov 21, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

You wound me with your purposeful misunderstanding of Nix's upside..

Yet I continue to support your ridiculous man love for Rosales de Goofbalz…

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 21, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Imean obc2 not Slyde...I mean I though I hit the fucking reply button

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 21, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Surprising number of people hanging out here, talking about nothing

on a Saturday night…

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Nov 21, 2009 8:18 PM EST reply actions  

Whoa, quick response there.

Bored, eh?

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Nov 21, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

yep.

i’m just killing time til the ufc starts

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by 'tHan on Nov 21, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

When's that?

I have Oregon-Arizona on, but it looks like it won’t be that great of a game.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Nov 21, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

it starts at 10

i’m watching uk lose to georgia until then

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by 'tHan on Nov 21, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Should be close.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Nov 21, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Whoa, UK is leading.

I’m sure that will last for a while…

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Nov 21, 2009 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm "reading"

mostly actually just enjoying having the place to my self, blasting some music, and drinking beer. Exciting times

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 21, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't Drink and Read

that never ends well for anyone.

"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK

by obc2 on Nov 22, 2009 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I saw bits of three different movies with Orlando Bloom after the Ohio State game

Kingdom of Heaven, Pirates of the Caribbean 2: Dead Man’s Chest, and Troy.

by Brendanukkah on Nov 21, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

i went to the grocery store to pick up some beer for the evening

and i decided on a 6 pack of beck’s. I’d never tried it before, and i was swayed by the fancy foil around the top. It’s not exactly spectacular.

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by 'tHan on Nov 21, 2009 8:30 PM EST reply actions  

i had free tickets

after last night, i think a lot of people owe crowds at buffett concerts and apology

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by 'tHan on Nov 21, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

KKK'd

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Nov 21, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

i expected it to be a mellow peaceful crowd.

those fuckers were out of their minds! they were pushing and they were everywhere. that place was a sellout which i never thought it would be.

They all seemed to know some terrible flailing dance, and I was sure I was going to get punched. They were yelling at ushers, were overall violent, and the reports of drug use at phish concerts have been undersold.

I really thought it would be a happy concert but it was not.

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by 'tHan on Nov 21, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Phish is for the birds

The only reason they were physically assertive was because they were pushing other Phish fans. Pussbags. I never got the allure of that band and I sure wouldnt consider spending any time amongst their fandom. That said, I ’m disappointed jch and I didnt get some free ducats and pull a little South Milwaukee action.

Surely some folks here on the site is a closet Phish fan. I have a few hunches on who tops the list of usual suspects.

"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK

by obc2 on Nov 22, 2009 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Here's to sweeping generalizations!

I was there (again), loved it (again), and sure as hell didn’t see anyone pushing each other. Did it happen? I’m sure it did, as it does at Bon Jovi, Metallica, Kanye, and Hank Williams concerts. Drunks push each other and bitch a lot. I get it, it happens.

And obc, I’m not a closet fan, I’m an open fan (as my signature indicates). Last I checked, most of my more intellegent friends are too, as are my best Reds-loving friends.

Phish may not be for you. For that, I apologize, but take it easy will ya?

Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Nov 22, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

an

Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,

by 'tHan on Nov 21, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

d

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Nov 21, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

So can any of you guys explain to me

why OSU fans spell out Ohio rather than OSU?

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Nov 21, 2009 8:40 PM EST reply actions  

A lot of people do, but mostly online

I have seen some shirts that just say “THE” though. I giggled.

by Brendanukkah on Nov 21, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, you would.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Nov 21, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Ohio is in Athens

and was founded 64 years earlier. tOSU is a farce and the O-H-I-O chant is asinine. OSU folks, you are State not Ohio. Pisses me off to no end.

To be fair OSU was founded as Ohio A&M, a fact most of their assclown alumni don’t even know or acknowledge. Down in Athens we routinely refer to them as A&M…

"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK

by obc2 on Nov 22, 2009 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

somebody is all riled up

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 22, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

They went to college

They’re educated. They know that OSU means Oklahoma State University.

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by BubbaFan on Nov 21, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Not to Michigan fans...

just sayin’.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Nov 21, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Have you no love for Beavers?

It could also be Oregon State. I think Oregon State is still alive for a Rose Bowl berth this year, and Ohio State beat Oklahoma State a couple years back in a bowl game. Truly, we are the OSU.

by Brendanukkah on Nov 21, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it's safe to say

that there’s quite a bit of love for beavers here at RR.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Nov 21, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 21, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

If we can't have the Nix Brothers then How about the Freres Sisters?

There’s a double play combo if I’ve ever seen one.

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 21, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Is it just me...

or does anyone else want to bring Jerry Hairston Jr. back?

"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."

by ZJiff30 on Nov 21, 2009 8:44 PM EST reply actions  

it's just you

Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,

by 'tHan on Nov 21, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Not enough crappy A-ball catchers

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Nov 21, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

The problem of having too much money

to spend on players who might actually be good?

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Nov 21, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

By the way, Slyde.

How bored were you last night, anyway?

From looking at the RR twitter feed, I’m guessing that you were even more bored than I was.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Nov 21, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

he's a better hitter than Janish.

That’s the only thing I see, beside lots of hustle.

"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."

by ZJiff30 on Nov 21, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

if that is the only tihng you see you should go to an eye doctor

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 21, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

so do we want to do the team write up again this offseason?

I thought that was nice.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 21, 2009 9:30 PM EST reply actions  

Probably

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Nov 21, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

my question doesn't make any sense

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 21, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

hey, we're all used to that by now.

"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."

by ZJiff30 on Nov 22, 2009 8:15 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec 1

Put me down for STL this year. I’m done with the Cubs…

"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK

by obc2 on Nov 22, 2009 9:35 AM EST reply actions  

i'll take the white sox

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 22, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Volunteering to write up the Phils

…but understand if the regulars have it covered.

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on Nov 23, 2009 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

If no one else wants,

I can handle the Marlins.

"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."

by ZJiff30 on Nov 23, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

We'll do a formal post on this after the new year

And we’ll run these starting in March.

Definitely a good argument.

by Slyde on Nov 23, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Ugh

So it sounds like Walt is excited about going with Gomes and Nix again this year in left. Fucker. Heisey/Frazier: blocked.

by Brian B on Nov 22, 2009 2:02 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Its still early Brian....give Walt more time and we'll have C-Dick and Rosales platooning in LF

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 22, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

why do you hate dickerson so much?

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 22, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

who says i hate Dickerson?

I like C-Dick
1. He’s a lefty
2. He’s a very good defensive CF
3. He’s speedy
4. He can bunt
5. He is environmentally active in trying to help the plight of our planet

the only things about Chris I’m not enamored with is:
1. He’s speedy doesn’t steal bases
2.As a total package due to mediocre offense he’s at best a #4 outfielder
3. He can bunt, therefore inspiring Dusty to give up useless outs
4. He’s at the peak of his career with no offensive upside.
5, It would be real shame if he were to stand in the way of Todd Frazier.
6. i don’t think it is good for his BB career to be dabbling in body building

that’s all

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 22, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed on some level.

Gomes is a platoon player.

Nix, unfortunately, is not the right platoon partner for Gomes.

While I’ll admit that I’m a Nix fanboy, it’s b/c I like him more than Taveras and Stubbs, but less than Dickerson and Bruce. I haven’t made up my mind how I feel about Gomes, aside from him not being an everyday player.

As for Gomes and or Nix blocking Heisey and Frazier, if those 2 pups are really that much better, they’ll play their way onto the 25 man roster. To this point, they’ve proved nothing of the sort.

by Highlifeman21 on Nov 22, 2009 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Marty reported that Uncle Walt was sharing a depth chart

That had Heisey #1 in LF. Gomes was #2.

Even better: T-Virus was #3 in CF!

"Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"

by "Red" Moskau on Nov 23, 2009 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

1. Dickerson
2. Stubbs
3. Tavaras

Because Dickerson Deserves 4 months starting after the spotty starts he got with Tavaras around

Or

1. Stubbs
2. Dickerson
3. Tavaras

Because Stubbs has prospect clout.

I’d honestly prefer to see what Dickerson could do on a daily basis. The same argument works for T-Gel. It’s not like you can plaly him back as up in RF, Right?

by Excalib8 on Nov 23, 2009 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Frazier is poised to stir up some shit at ST...he could hit his way onto the team. But he's not at Gomes level - yet.

Nix is a great guy off the bench.
Decent PH
all 3 OF positions
Gots some power
and has a cool first name.
I would take him over C-Dick for a bench guy.

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 22, 2009 5:06 PM EST reply actions  

not needed with

Bruce, Stubbs, Balentin, Taveras, Dickerson, and Gomes. Hopefully they DFA T-virus, so he isn’t blocking Balentin or Dickerson.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 22, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I would assume that Nix chose free agency because the Reds offered him a minor league deal with an invite to ST

I’d bet he’s looking to see if he can get a major league deal first. I don’t get the impression the team values him all that much, and with the logjam in the outfield I don’t know why they would lock up a roster spot by giving him a major league deal.

If I hear the word 'perky' again, I'll puke

by nycredsfan on Nov 22, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

There is a logjam in the outfield but it isn't like

when they had a logjam of Kearns, Dunn, Griffey, and Pena, or Kearns, Dunn, Griffey, and Guillen.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 22, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Nix is most valuable to the Reds off the bench,PH and defense..maybe an occasional split with Gomes.

This role is not one i would wish on any of the young players..they need to play.

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 22, 2009 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Balentin won't make it through waivers

Dickerson as you have said is a 4th outfielder. T-Virus can be released so….

Bruce
Stubbs
Gomes/Balentin

With Dickerson around to spell them.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 22, 2009 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

completely unreleated NYC

you should sue this guy for copyright infringement.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 22, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

shouldn't that be

“nysteelersfan”?

Rough day for Steelers fans. Lost a heartbreaker in OT, and lost Big Ben to a concussion.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 22, 2009 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

and living with one makes me love every minute of it.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 22, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy cow

How did the Bengals lose?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 22, 2009 7:24 PM EST reply actions  

will power

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 22, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Horribly, in a flash of brilliant ineptitude

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Nov 22, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I just saw the game synopsis

on NBC. That guy who fumbled is going to have a hard time getting to sleep tonight.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 22, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

if they were in Cincinnati he might have an easier time

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 22, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

but in all honeslty i'll sleep better tonight

i won’t be worrying about the world ending anytime soon.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 22, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

That thing still hasn't landed yet

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Nov 23, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

The Bengals found an interesting way to lose today.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 22, 2009 7:24 PM EST reply actions  

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