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Waiting for the ink to dry...

While I sit around and wait for the ink to dry on RayMoan's contract, I am struck dumb by excitement that Hernandez's signing has caused especially at one of the places work. My secondary work place is full of about 25 blue collar guys from 28 - 67 yrs. of age. these guys are big time sports fans - they talk sports, they eat and drink sports...to a man they are excited and relieved that Hanigan will not be considered for the starter's job in 2010. When I attempt to discuss Hanigan's on base percentage and moving him up to the #2 spot in the line up I am literally shouted down. Now I know I'm right and they are wrong but I can see why the Red's management could be heavily swayed to give the fans what they want. In this case Hernandez. And that management probably agrees with them.

Interestingly these same guys have little use for Taveris, Jannish or Dickerson. They love the Rolen move, love BP, Bruce (to a point) and Votto too. Guys like Gomes, Ballentien and Nix are shrug offs, nobody thinks that they are 'The Real Thing' and that the Reds need a big stick in LF (these are same guys that really hated on Dunn). Also interestingly this group of sports addicts are high on Stubbs and Fransisco.

I see the nearly 25 guys I work with 2.5 days week (who are totally into Football and Basketball right now) as comprising the average fan. They believe that Castellini made millions off the team in 2009, that the the reason for a lower budget for 2010 is so that Big Bob can make even more money, that the price to go to a game is outrageous and that we should be trading away guys like Harang and (many say) Jay Bruce for a proven veteran LF. Yet, half of these guys don't know who Todd Frazier is, 75% don't know Chris Heisey. Arroyo is their favorite pitcher with Voltron  Homer and Lehr next on the list. Pretty much to a man they think Harang is washed up.

Phil Castellini probably has had the same interactions that I have in talking to fans...hell he probably agrees with them. He'll pay attention to what fans say they want in an attempt to fill the seats. My guess is that this translates into a pretty boring and mediocre season for 2010.

The hopes I hold to is that Walt will pull off something...to spice up the roster or that one of the young guys will have a breakout Spring Training.

Enough of this as I really need to get to work on Slyde's novel.....

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Slyde's novel?

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Nov 17, 2009 2:48 PM EST reply actions  

that guy's name

is probably “Shea Snowden.”

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 17, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

It is so too bad that someone stole that title...

I bet that’s really the author’s (?) real last name too.

Men get laid, but women get screwed.
Quentin Crisp

by Madville on Nov 17, 2009 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

An exceprt from Chapter 3 -

Raven was livid. ‘That bitch…that bitch is not going push me around…this is mytime and I won’t stand for her to fuck with me. She pulled her Red 331i convertible into the valet space in front of the Crescent Farms Arms Condos and tossed the keys to the young Hispanic carboy.
“Will you be long, Miss’
“No” She curtly replied and walked under the front awing where the door man greeted her
“How are we today Miss Raven”
Raven stopped at the door “Is she in?”
Chester. the old black doorman nodded…
‘Why yes, ShalI I ring her for you"
“No’ even more curtly – now was not the time to be nice to the help.
She strode across the gilded vestibule’s polished granite floor, directly to the penthouse elevator. Where Alma the operator waited patiently.
“Its nice to see you Miss Raven, you always look so pretty”
“I’m going up alone Alma..please announce any visitors”
Yes, Miss"
As the elevator sped towards the 34th floor corner penthouse Raven began to calm herself. Reaching deep into her inner chi she began her wind chant – Oh – Yi Oh Yi – Oh Yi..aligning the chant with her heartbeat. She could feel a centering of self as the car slowed to a stop and the door opened into the beautiful traditional foyer. Without hesitation she walked to the end of the foyer and inserted her key into the door…it was unlocked. Taking a breath Raven walked into the apartment, walked down the entrance way into the living area – she was sitting with her back to Raven, looking out the floor to ceiling windows at the view of the River…
as Raven began to speak..Juanita spoke instead" Why Darling what a nice surprise..really though you should have called I am exhausted…I’ve had such a day"
Raven walked around and face the woman “Juanita, we are going to have a talk, an important talk about your behavior and our relationship”
“Really, we are…Oh my, Is there problem dear?”
“Is there a problem dear..yes goddamnit…you are the problem – I won’t stand for your bullshit any more”
“Raven, dear, please there’s no need to curse…it isn’t polite for a young lady to swear at her Mother”.
Raven looked at her mother..“I hope you know how pathetic you are…Skipper told me that she saw you and Caesar coming out of the Alms Hotel last night…late last night…did you fuck him..did you?”
“Now Raven you know I like to play with your old cast offs…it keeps me young and anyway..I’m not that certain Caesar is all that enamored with women anyway – just their companionship and of course their wealth”
“Caesar is not a cast off of mine…” said Raven " I haven’t been seeing him recently but I consider him a…possibility..stay the fuck away from him"
“And if I don’t Darling,” Juanita looked directly at her daughter with steely gray eyes with a countenance of total condescension".
“Mother…stay way from my men. Why don’t you just go down and do Chester..he could use the money and you could get the thrill of some old coon dick”
“Raven, that is unnecessary, Chester is a very nice man and does not deserve to insulted by of all people you…I remember your fling with LaRonne Robinson, doesn’t he play basketball or something for the Bulls?….
“This is not about LaRonne..Christ you are such a bitch”
“Dearest you seem…flummoxed…I was flummoxed once, but I couldn’t get your Father to do it again” Juanita laughed lightly..“I hear and I will obey. I’m just an old cast off myself…”
Raven stood in the center of the room. She realized she’d been holding her breath..she exhaled.
“Alright then we are clear Juanita? …I’m leaving” As she walked around the sof toward the door, her mother called out
" Won’t you stay and have some dinner? I could send Hector over to Rammone’s for carry out Lobster"
“Fuck You Mother.” Raven closed the door silently and walked across the foyer to the elevator.
‘That went well’ She smiled to herself and smoothed her golden tresses as the elevator door opened. Lost in thought she didn’t see the man until she had bumped directly into him…
“Father!”
‘Excuse me miss -" He shoved past her and stormed towards her mother’s door…
She stepped into the car and pushed lobby…‘Oh my God…why did she have to run into him..why was her life so incredibly difficult..why…’
 

Men get laid, but women get screwed.
Quentin Crisp

by Madville on Nov 17, 2009 6:37 PM EST reply actions  

Scanned it and saw 'coon dick.'

Ummmm….

"If you have a spaceship and are looking for a hilarious astronaut with an irregular heartbeat and thirty million dollars, I am prepared to leave as soon as tomorrow."

by Fat Vegas Alan on Nov 17, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Nov 19, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

That gets a rec from me

First time I shot her, shot her in the side.
Hard to watch her suffer, but with the second shot she died...

by btcoop71 on Nov 19, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

The fuck?

Is this some new development?

RR: Proud home of the most mods in SBNation.

by chesirecat on Nov 17, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Madville is ghostwriting a novel for Slyde

and he’s doing a very good job, isnt he ’cat? *nudge nudge

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 17, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm just pissed

That the “Chester” in the novel is an impoverished elderly doorman who has an “old coon dick.” We Chesters of the world take serious offense.

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by chesirecat on Nov 17, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

no joke

A very, very distant female carpenter relative of mine used a coon’s penis bone, lol, as a toothpick.

You can’t make things like that up.

Start SEEing motorcycles

by Excalib8 on Nov 25, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

could be worse

The local cops around here give a talk on child safety that involves a character called “Chester the Molester.”

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 17, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Does he have a moustache?

"Santa Claus doesn't use Craigslist." -- 'tHan

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

rec'd for total creepiness.

"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."

by ZJiff30 on Nov 18, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

how many flags has this gotten?

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 18, 2009 2:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Picture of Raven for all her fans

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 23, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

No

Guess again gang!

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 23, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't mean to hate

but Hanigan in the 2 hole is not a good play. He may have a .360 OBP in 400 career AB’s, but as a 29 yr old that isn’t terribly impressive. Harang isn’t done, he allowed the fewest line drives in the league last season. Francisco’s OBP is an long term issue, despite his power. Bruce has put up pedestrian numbers at the dish the past two seasons but you don’t trade a youngster with his tools (see: Homer Bailey). If he makes the jump this ballclub becomes much more interesting with Votto, BP, Stubbs, and Rolen in the mix. I can live with Janish at SS and a LF platoon if the other bats in the lineup produce and stay healthy.

Can anyone post a link to the Trade Homer Bailey thread last offseason? I’d enjoy reading who was in his corner and who wanted to move him for whatever the Reds could get for him.

My lineup, as of November:

Stubbs CF
Dickerson LF
Votto 1B
Rolen 3B
Bruce RF
Phillips 2B
Raymoan C
Janish SS

I expected Bruce to project as Larry Walker (sans Coors Field padded stats). He still can. Walker started an 16 year run as a 110 OPS+ ballplayer at age 23…as a 22 year old he produced a 24 OPS+. Good luck, Jay, we need ya!

"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK

by obc2 on Nov 17, 2009 9:53 PM EST reply actions  

Hal was wrong

Harang had the most line drives in the league last year, at least the highest rate of line drives in the league.

Definitely a good argument.

by Slyde on Nov 17, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

really?

how’d he miss best as opposed to worst?

i hate believing things i read!

For the record, I have both Wrigleyville and Feeding the Green Monster in my personal book collection. I think its time a middle market baseball fan writes a “diary” about attending every game of a season. I don’t think its ever been done.

"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK

by obc2 on Nov 17, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

crap book

i have that one also, mainly due to one of my pals being a Sox fan. zzzzzzzzzzz.

"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK

by obc2 on Nov 17, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Isn't the book about soccer?

Also, the Farrelly Brothers movie was total crap.

by ken on Nov 18, 2009 8:25 AM EST up reply actions  

ack

i thought that was the book Stephen King wrote about an entire season, game by game. i didnt look at it closely enough.

damn foot fairies!

"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK

by obc2 on Nov 18, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm a pretty big guy

"Santa Claus doesn't use Craigslist." -- 'tHan

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2009 10:40 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

that's NOT what she said

"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK

by obc2 on Nov 17, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Well, not to you

"Santa Claus doesn't use Craigslist." -- 'tHan

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Absolutely Bruce will be a giant

Men get laid, but women get screwed.
Quentin Crisp

by Madville on Nov 18, 2009 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, I think Bruce would benefit greatly from batting 2nd in front of Votto

Slide BP to %, Dickerson at 6.

"Santa Claus doesn't use Craigslist." -- 'tHan

by jch24 on Nov 17, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

nobody, I enjoy losing

Proof of the “Why Pirates Fans are so lucky type thing”

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Nov 18, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

C-Dick in LF = 78 wins in 2010

Men get laid, but women get screwed.
Quentin Crisp

by Madville on Nov 18, 2009 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

racist

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 18, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

No

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 18, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Madville

you work with a bunch of fuckin morons who are the problem with society today. Like honestly people are so fucking stupid I can’t stand it. I haven’t always had this superiority complex either. But more and more I can’t stand people. Like don’t your people realize how asine there logic is? Like what the fuck matter does it what kinda leader raymoan is if he can’t OPS over .600 or play more than 75 games. MAKE HIM A FUCKIN COACH FOR A FEW HUNDRED G’s. Spend this money else where. If they fuckin trade Phillips who has a nice contract and will be productive for years to come, I’m fucking gonna be pissed. I bet your people don’t like Phillips, he is probably an uppity n**** to them, with his smile and flash. I love it, you know if i were black and talneted I’d be dick, becuase society fucking hates me anyway, i fucking hate white blue collar folks. Like and these are the people who vote and drive decision makeing. I want them gone.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 18, 2009 2:46 AM EST reply actions  

honestly mads

kill these people, it will be for the best, they are a drain on the gene pool.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 18, 2009 3:01 AM EST up reply actions  

You know Justin as much as I share your frustration with these guys..

I also like a lot of them even though I disagree with their take on baseball and politics too. Most of these guys would give you the shirt off their back if you needed it without waiting to be asked. They are good guys…the guy who would stop and help your fiance change a flat tire in the middle of a rain storm…and not take a dime for doing it.

They are not bad guys or even ultimately stupid guys…they bust their asses for their families and party hard on the weekends. They’re just guys…and BTW they aren’t all white either.

On the other hand Winston Churchill did once say “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”

Men get laid, but women get screwed.
Quentin Crisp

by Madville on Nov 18, 2009 5:20 AM EST up reply actions  

They will still be nice guys

when they are lying in a shallow and unmarked mass grave!

love,
Justin.

by Brian B on Nov 18, 2009 3:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

i'd let them dig um deep and make their headstones first

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 18, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

definitely a good argument

"Santa Claus doesn't use Craigslist." -- 'tHan

by jch24 on Nov 18, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

definitely.

"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."

by ZJiff30 on Nov 18, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

i dont get it

i’ll take blue collar real folk over white collar dbags anytime.

"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK

by obc2 on Nov 18, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

what about those of us who have ph.d's or at least ma's and deserve our ivory tower?

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 19, 2009 3:19 AM EST up reply actions  

What about TH. M's?

I don’t have mine yet, but I’m starting next semester, hopefully.

"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."

by ZJiff30 on Nov 23, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Especially when those dbags are picking up the tab.

Are you running for office or something?

by Brian B on Nov 19, 2009 2:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Sure, why not

No convictions, hell no arrests
I’m single and can certainly endure a sex scandal
Everyone knows the best politicians wear their socks up to their knees
Been to Adonis, Mugbee’s, TTC and The Creation Museum, been at ease at all.
I adapt to changing times and technology (see proper use of reply button after initial “difficulties”)
And I’ve spoken to The Peach

"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK

by obc2 on Nov 24, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

But you're pals with me

Obama’s reverend ain’t got shit on me dude.

"Santa Claus doesn't use Craigslist." -- 'tHan

by jch24 on Nov 24, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

jch24:

our generation’s answer to Billy Carter.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Nov 24, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

hey jch

you said yo umight beable to hook me up with some creation museum tickets. FUCKING DELIVER YOU COCKASS

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 25, 2009 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey Hey now this a family site

We don’t go around saying things like ‘The Creation Museum’…some of these bloggers have kids…

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 25, 2009 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey gang tonight is bowling night and I need your spiritual energies sent my way.

I’ve got to get my PPF up (pins per frame) above 8.3 on my first ball
and I am really lagging with my STW (spares to wins) ratio of 7.8/7 per frame per game.

With all the different oil patterns and balls available, bowling today is a science unto itself..I hope to bring a sabremtric approach the sport…but I need your input and support.

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 18, 2009 3:27 PM EST reply actions  

wait

you’re not going to burger night, yet again?

"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK

by obc2 on Nov 18, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I've been banned because I like Arthur's and Zips...

Plus this winter Wednesday night is bowling night.
Tonight your RR bowling Representative was all over the place:

Game 1 was an acceptable 166
Game 2 was an exceptional 207
Game 3 blew chinks at 129

my PPF prolly drop a couple of % pts.

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 18, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Err that's blew CHUNKS.. christ on a hubcap

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 19, 2009 7:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Mads, I mean.

I don’t know enough about Fleud to play the race card to ken.

by Brian B on Nov 19, 2009 2:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Look for excepts from andomache's new novel:

Boys and Their Balls
The inside look at 4 professional baseball players on and off the filed.

As I’ve not signed a contract yet with Sylde…I feel compelled yo stop work on his novel until I hear from his attorneys. However I have a good feeling that Andromache will be signing up soon to have me ghost write her baseball related work. A fair amount of the action and story takes place in the locker room…this is an intimate portrayal of the inner workings of a pro team sport and the guys who make up the team.

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 19, 2009 5:52 PM EST reply actions  

You know Christmas is coming. I always wanted to take up gold, but at my age my body isn't co-operating.

I’ve too many knee operations and lower back issues so I’m asking Santa for a Wie game this year.

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 28, 2009 4:52 AM EST reply actions  

i guess mining would be difficult at your age...

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 28, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry I had a Justin moment...shoulda been GOLF

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 28, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Who cares? She dresses so well

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Nov 30, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure, if you're into stirfry

Give me this golfer everyday of the week…. Natalie Gulbis

Or maybe this one…. Anna RAwson

And we can’t forget about this one…. Kim Hall

by Highlifeman21 on Dec 1, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

The real question is not golf related but if anyone is going to read the final installment of Men and Their Balls

I need some critical feedback before I approach andromache with the contract.

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Dec 1, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

we need another installment

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Dec 1, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I might have to put this up to vote

maybe I should take a pole?

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Dec 2, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

TWSS

"Santa Claus doesn't use Craigslist." -- 'tHan

by jch24 on Dec 3, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

or

That’s what Hitler said.

Think about that for a moment.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Dec 3, 2009 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Dusty said the same thing...but now he's gone

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Dec 3, 2009 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I almost went there, but thought better of it

"Santa Claus doesn't use Craigslist." -- 'tHan

by jch24 on Dec 3, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I published the last installment yesterday...look under som[pmtoign for anfromsache

Spread the word…this is my best work ever.

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Dec 1, 2009 7:37 PM EST reply actions  

we need one more you cock-tease

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Dec 1, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Well after bowling last night I could have gone to O'Bryon's

But we ended up at Gordo’s….should gone to OB’s

I may be drunk, Miss, but in the morning I will be sober and you will still be ugly.
Winston Churchill

by Madville on Dec 3, 2009 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

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