Farmers Only: Winter League Update and some notes

by nycredsfan on Nov 13, 2009 2:00 PM EST in Farmers only Comment 39 comments

Chris Heisey loves the Arizona air. Does that bode will for his chances in spring training?

Many of you thought the Arizona Fall League ended with the "Rising Stars" game last weekend, but it actually goes until the end of next week, and our boys in 'zona have just kept on representin'. This list isn't exhaustive, I've only put up stats, through yesterday, of the players of interest playing in fall/winter leagues. (If you really want to know how Lew Ford is doing in Venezuela you can look it up)

Arizona Fall League	PA	Avg	OBP	SLG	HR	BB	K
Yonder Alonso	75	.290	.333	.406	2	6	8
Chris Heisey	88	.308	.400	.641	5	10	20
Zack Cozart	55	.340	.393	.560	2	5	9
Venezuelan Winter League
Danny Dorn	60	.250	.400	.500	4	8	14
Miguel Rojas	57	.288	.345	.346	0	5	10
Dominican Winter League
Juan Francisco	76	.227	.325	.455	3	10	20
Kevin Barker	84	.329	.409	.421	1	8	15
Mexican League
Adam Rosales	128	.300	.400	.427	2	18	11
Arizona Pitchers	IP	ERA	K	BB	H	HR	AVG
Mike Leake	11.2	2.31	9	2	17	0	.340
Brad Boxberger	11.1	8.74	11	6	12	2	.286
Sean Watson	10.2	8.44	12	6	20	2	.377
Logan Ondrusek	9.2	10.24	8	1	19	4	.388

Dominican League
Ben Jukich	15.2	2.87	12	5	20	1	.323
Enerio Del Rosario	11.2	2.31	6	2	10	0	.222
Sam LeCure	7.1	8.59	6	5	12	0	.353

Zack Cozart hasn't been in a game since last week and isn't listed on the Peoria Saguaros roster anymore. I can't tell if he's injured or just decided he wanted to go home.
Todd Frazier starts play in the Puerto Rican League next week. I'm giddy.
Please note the K/BB ratio for Francisco. I know it's only the DWL, but the kid is showing signs of being able to take a walk.
I'm really intrigued by Del Rosario. He flew up through the system this season, and ended the year in AAA. His groundball to flyball ratio was 3.23 during the season and is 2.22 in the DWL. Sounds like a good fit for GABP.
It's still a small sample size, but Chris Heisey keeps making a case for himself.
Darnell McDonald is tearin' up Mexico too, but since he's not on the 40 man roster anymore I didn't feel compelled to include him. Katie Couric is happy about this.

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Man, that's a lot of HRs Logan gave up

by ken on Nov 13, 2009 2:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I know somewhere in Mexico, Rosales is sprinting to 1st via bb right now.

And that is frickin hilarious.

by mdccclxix on Nov 13, 2009 2:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

they probably think he's a native

and related to silvia rosales.

by GrooveLeg on Nov 13, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Mexico Rosales has a nice ring to it. If I was Adam, I'd go with Mexico Rosales next year.

by mdccclxix on Nov 13, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Anybody know what Mexican League team Adam is playing for?

"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."

by ZJiff30 on Nov 13, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If it's not the Speedy Gonzalezes, I'm gonna be REALLY disappointed.

"Santa Claus doesn't use Craigslist." -- 'tHan

by jch24 on Nov 14, 2009 9:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

You mean sprinting back to the dugout after flying out?

‘cause that’s what this means: 213/303/317

Lots and lots of running back to dugout, shaking his head and muttering

by timb116 on Nov 13, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That's not fair, you know how many times he tried to win one for the Gipper?

That’s what he’s saying when he’s muttering. Anyway, 18 bb and 2 hr in Mexico is a tantalizing line, if you’re into the Rosales show.

by mdccclxix on Nov 13, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I am not

but the fantastic trade fro Rolen means I will see plenty of him in 2010

by timb116 on Nov 13, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Baseball America

had this to say about High-Z:

Reds outfielder Chris Heisey has gone from a 17th-round pick in 2006 to knocking on the big league door. He’s played all three outfield spots for the Peoria Saguaros and hit .320/.400/.667 with five home runs in 85 plate appearances.

"I think he’s just gaining confidence and I think he believes he’s a major league player," said Saguaros manager David Bell, who also managed Heisey this year at Double-A Carolina. "I think he’s going to create that opportunity for himself.

"He can do so many things—he’s such a well-rounded player. There’s not anything that he can’t do, and he does a lot of things very well. I think this league has been good for him. It’s given him a little more time to just gain that confidence."

Heisey, 24, is also one of the smartest baserunners in the minors. He doesn’t have blazing speed, but he was successful on 21 of 24 stolen base attempts during the regular season, and he’s swiped five more in seven attempts in the AFL.

"He gets out a little on his front side, but he has such good hands, especially on the inner half," said one scout. "He’s got solid-average tools across the board. I don’t see any major weaknesses and or any great pluses. For me, he might be a fourth outfielder who plays as an occasional starter. He’s really surprised me."

And from the transaction report:

Cincinnati Reds

Released: RHP Leonardo Astorga, RHP Chris Kelly, RHP Ramon Rodriguez, LHP Bryan Gardner, LHP Shea Snowden, C Petr Cech, C Humberto Sosa, C Justin Tordi, 3B Jason Louwsma, OF Sergio Guerrero, OF Kel Jones, OF Tyler Stovall

Granted free agency: 1B Kevin Barker, 2B Danny Richar

Outrighted to Triple-A and removed from 40-man: C Corky Miller, 1B Kevin Barker, 2B Danny Richar, OF Darnell McDonald

I’m crushed. Shea Snowdon had such a romantic hero type name.

Also on the list: Mike Gosling was granted free agency.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 13, 2009 6:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I'm still surprised they chose to keep thompson instead of ram-rod

I love that not even he knew that he scored and he continued to try to put it in - Evilducks

by sharks on Nov 13, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think you mean Ram Ram

Ram-Rod was just a single-A pitcher.

Definitely a good argument.

by Slyde on Nov 13, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Say Ram-Rod!

by Brendanukkah on Nov 13, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

oh right...

I love that not even he knew that he scored and he continued to try to put it in - Evilducks

by sharks on Nov 14, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

a healthy thompson has more upside than a healthy ram-ram

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 14, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

key word healthy

I don’t hate it, just surprised.

I love that not even he knew that he scored and he continued to try to put it in - Evilducks

by sharks on Nov 14, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The Reds really don't have a need for Ram-ram

Going into 2005, 2006, or even 2007 a pitcher of his caliber would have strongly been in the mix to make the rotation, but the Reds have fortunately reached a point where they don’t need 27 or 28 year olds with nice minor league numbers, but only a few months of big league experience, to be a strong presence in the race for the rotation.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 14, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I didnt realize he was that old

and i didnt realize how young thompson still is, I withdraw my surprise.

I love that not even he knew that he scored and he continued to try to put it in - Evilducks

by sharks on Nov 14, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

also i just noticed an alarming change in Ramirez's stats

in 2008 in 145 innings in AA and AAA he had a k/9 of 9.

In 2009 in 127 AAA innings he had a K/9 of 5.5.

That is an astounding change.

"There is no harder thing than to have Glenn Beck outlive your child."-The Onion

by justin007000 on Nov 14, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Petr Cech will have to fall back on his old job at Stamford Bridge

by Brendanukkah on Nov 13, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I made this joke in a FO post and nobody got it

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Nov 14, 2009 9:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Foot fairy elitists!

If I hear the word 'perky' again, I'll puke

by nycredsfan on Nov 14, 2009 11:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Ah, Humberto...

you showed such promise once.

"If it wasn't this, it'd be something else."

by ZJiff30 on Nov 13, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Quick take on the players released

Astorga had it coming. Kelly, Tordi, and Louwsma were for the most part minor league roster filler. I’m not sure if Guerrero played at all this year.

The surprises that jump out are Sosa, who had a decent year in Dayton, Stovall, who was one of the more highly regarded outfield prospects for the Reds from the ’08 draft (when drafted, he was around the same level as Dave Sappelt, who could see AA next year), and recent draftees. Snowden was a top 10 pick, and Gardner was an ’09 pick (who was just awful, but still). Ram-Rod had a few good games in the GCL, and we miss out on two awesome names in Petr Cech and RR Favorite Keltavious Jones.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Nov 14, 2009 9:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Rosales > all those guys

that pretty much sums it up.

good riddance.

"Nate Silver is a genius" .... BK

by obc2 on Nov 14, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I miss baseball already

And I want to whack zombies with a baseball bat, like in that Left 4 Dead 2 commercial. (Is there really a whole zombie infested ballpark in that game?)

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Nov 13, 2009 8:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

You're getting violent and foul-mouthed recently

See, this is why the Yankees shouldn’t win.

by Brendanukkah on Nov 13, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Nut up or shut up, I say

"Santa Claus doesn't use Craigslist." -- 'tHan

by jch24 on Nov 14, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Nicely done.

by Brendanukkah on Nov 14, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Personally I love it when a girtl talks dirty.

Especially at at a baseball game.

"Success is getting up one more time than you fall down, then walking away saying "Fuck it".

by Madville on Nov 13, 2009 11:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Hate to break it to you guys...

But Todd Frazier hurt his knee and is not playing winter ball at all…

Was just with him this past weekend at a club and he informed me of his decision to stay home and rest his knee up so he can go into spring training at 100% and not risk further injury.

Doesn’t really matter if he plays or not, he is the future of the Reds along with Votto and Bruce. That trio of hitters is the key to us posting an above .500 year. Let’s hope he gets the call sooner rather than later because I know that a kid like Todd produces no matter what level he plays at. The kid is a winner.

by reds2010 on Nov 14, 2009 4:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

If it didn't involve surgery

it sounds like it’s probably one of those things that every player is dealing with at the end of the season, but maybe a little more painful since he didn’t play winter ball. I wouldn’t guess that it’s anything to worry about.

Definitely a good argument.

by Slyde on Nov 14, 2009 9:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs