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BBA Ballot: 2009 NL MVP

I know every writer has a different reason for voting for a player for the MVP award.  Some do the biggest RBI guy on the best team.  Others pick the best story for a good player.  While others still define some arbitrary level of value to a "sparkplug" player and pick that player for the award.  My system is pretty much what you would expect - pick the player that provided the most wins for his team.  That's why my ballot shouldn't be very surprising:

1. Albert Pujols - Cardinals

How good was Pujols this year?  He takes a -12.4 runs hit for playing the easiest defensive position on the field, and he still outpaces everyone in the league in WAR.  His numbers were a little better last season, when he won his 2nd MVP award, but this year is probably one of his top 3 performances of his career.  That's saying something.

2. Tim Lincecum - Giants

If it weren't for Pujols, Lincecum could win both the MVP and Cy Young.  I mean, not in the real world because his team didn't go to the playoffs, but in the fake world that we've created here on the internet it could happen.

Star-divide

3. Chase Utley - Phillies

Utley might be my favorite player on an opposing team.  He might also be the best all-around 2B since Joe Morgan.

4. Hanley Ramirez - Marlins

Dude carried his team all year.  I wonder if the Red Sox regret trading him.  On the one hand, they did get Josh Beckett and Mike Lowell.  On the other hand, they lost Hanley Ramirez!

5. Ryan Zimmerman - Nationals

An outstanding defensive 3B who can also hit?  But...but...he plays for a really bad team, so how valuable can he be?

6. Prince Fielder - Brewers

Bonus points for knocking all of his teammates down with his fat ass at home plate after the game winning home run toward the end of the season.

7. Troy Tulowitzki - Rockies

He's not actually next in WAR, but I gave him bonus points because defensive metrics fluctuate so much from year to year and I don't trust their accuracy enough on a single season.

8. Javier Vazquez - Braves

Probably the 2nd best pitcher in the NL this season.

9. Adrian Gonzalez - Padres

He hit 40 HR while playing half his games in Petco.  Nice.

10. Joey Votto - Reds

I just want Joey to get a vote so he'll like me.

How'd I do?

Poll
Who is the 2009 NL MVP?
Tim Lincecum
17 votes
Albert Pujols
194 votes
Hanley Ramirez
7 votes
Chase Utley
12 votes
Ryan Zimmerman
4 votes
Other
14 votes

248 votes | Poll has closed

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I voted Zimmerman

I want the Nationals to win something.

by Brendanukkah on Oct 26, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

besides our everlasting condescension?

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Oct 26, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

gratitude, more like

As in,
Hey Nats, thanks for locking up “Worst Record in the NL” for the next decade — there but for the grace of God go us.

by bbjones on Oct 26, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

To answer your question on the twitter link

No, there is not.

"Some times you get lucky; some times you get Willy Taveras." --Fay

by RedStalk on Oct 26, 2009 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Albert is the MVP. Period there can be no discussion.

Period. Over and done with.

Jay Bruce will become a major league baseball STAR, starting in April, 2010.....

by Madville on Oct 26, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Taveras

i mean sometimes Walt is like a prison shower, you know it is gonna happen, but it isn’t a good thing.

by justin007000 on Oct 26, 2009 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

But some things never change

There a genuine, certified haunted house for sale on eBay.

I’m disappointed there are no photos of the included haunted wedding dress.

Also…I learned this weekend that it is illegal to sell a haunted house in New York without disclosing the fact that it is haunted to prospective buyers.

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by BubbaFan on Oct 26, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here in the KY

you have to disclose that informaiton as well. I wonder if it is a common law?

by Red_Poodle on Oct 26, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a fairly recent law here in the Empire State

The ruling came down in 1990.

A woman sold her house in the Hudson Valley to a young couple. The couple went to a local restaurant to celebrate the purchase. When they told the waiter what they were celebrating, he said, “Oh, the haunted house.” Turned out everyone in town knew about it. The owner had given an interview to Reader’s Digest about the hauntings, and the house was a regular stop on a local tour as “the haunted house.”

The couple were unhappy to hear this, and demanded their money back. The owner said, “No way, you bought it, it’s your house.” It went all the way to the state Supreme Court. Which ruled in favor of the young couple. They got their money back, because the seller failed to disclose the fact that the house was haunted.

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by BubbaFan on Oct 26, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

What a couple of pussies

Who wouldn’t want to live in a Haunted House geez

Jay Bruce will become a major league baseball STAR, starting in April, 2010.....

by Madville on Oct 26, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's an interesting case Bubba

I don’t know what caused it in Kentucky. Mads might not mind, but I would definitely not want to find out, after dropping alot of money, that my house was haunted

by Red_Poodle on Oct 26, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the case

Stambovsky v. Ackley

I suppose if the haunting reduced property values, or if there were so many gawkers that they were a nuisance, I wouldn’t like it.

But I don’t think I’d mind a haunted house otherwise. I don’t really believe in ghosts, even in the NY Supreme Court does. ;-)

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by BubbaFan on Oct 26, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously you missed an important developmental stage during your childhood:

To understand Israel and the Middle East, you must understand Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. -Glenn Beck (former cocaine addict and pedophile.)

by Madville on Oct 26, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was one of my favorite cases in property class.

I think part of the issue was that the previous homeowner really publicized and benefitted from the alleged ghost. Otherwise, I’m not sure it would have come out the same way.

IAN! I'm on traain!

by andromache on Oct 26, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

the previous owner publicized it?

then that surprises me that they came down in favor of the new owners. it’s kinda their own dumb fault for not figuring it out beforehand, you know?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 26, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

The buyers were city folk

From New York City. They weren’t aware of the town folklore.

Apparently, one of the reasons they ruled in favor of the buyers is because ghosts may not be evident even to the most careful inspector.

I guess they don’t expect buyers to search the newspaper for possible hauntings.

I wonder if they might have ruled differently today, when the Google makes it so much easier to find such information. In 1990, the Internet was something mostly used by college students.

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by BubbaFan on Oct 26, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahhhhh those dang city slickers always trying to stick it to the simple small towners

i suppose i would talk to the neighbors before i buy a house. im sure if they’d talked to old lady Harris across the street she woulda told them.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 26, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I absolutely love ghost stories

But I don’t really believe in ghosts.

Kinda like how I enjoy Christmas and Easter, even though I’m an atheist. ;-)

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 26, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice analysis asshat

Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...

by boobs on Oct 26, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

we really need more people like you around here

not really

Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...

by boobs on Oct 26, 2009 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

By 'around here' you mean your mom's basement?

Where you just cast aspersions at strangers and masturbate to your avatar? It’s Tuesday now, Isn’t that your day to shower? You should really get out more.

by Leonard Smalls on Oct 27, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

what are you compensating for, exactly

with your smart-ass remarks and too-large jpegs?

Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...

by boobs on Oct 27, 2009 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

You've got rules about sizes?

And you don’t know how to welcome newbies?

I can go be a miserable Reds fan somewhere else.

by Leonard Smalls on Oct 27, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

you can hang around

i like posters with a good sense of humor. just don’t be a turd and make yourself useful.

Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...

by boobs on Oct 27, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah and don't be using pics that I've already used

LIKE THIS ONE

To understand Israel and the Middle East, you must understand Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. -Glenn Beck (former cocaine addict and pedophile.)

by Madville on Oct 27, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

get him mads

Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...

by boobs on Oct 27, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, I remember when I first came near this site.....

C’mon gang lets initiate this newbie with sarcasm, hostility and a mean parochial attitude…who’s with me?

To understand Israel and the Middle East, you must understand Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. -Glenn Beck (former cocaine addict and pedophile.)

by Madville on Oct 27, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

most definitely

plus, i just don’t trust that guy

Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...

by boobs on Oct 27, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good enough for me

/whips out the banhammer

"What the hell are spanks????"

by jch24 on Oct 27, 2009 6:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

But do you believe in Love?

To understand Israel and the Middle East, you must understand Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. -Glenn Beck (former cocaine addict and pedophile.)

by Madville on Oct 27, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I actually had to study this case a couple weeks ago

not quite as fun as when somebody sued Satan, but the court threw the case out because it was unsure how to serve process to the defendant.

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Oct 27, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pfff, FRCP 5(b)(2)(ii)

Service can be made by leaving papers “at the person’s dwelling or usual place of abode with someone of suitable age and discretion who resides there.” There’s tons of people in hell, I’m sure someone would answer if you knocked.

IAN! I'm on traain!

by andromache on Oct 27, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

uhhh

what was that guy expecting to get out of that case? money from satan? I’m having a real hard time seeing the motivation for doing that.

by sharks on Oct 27, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

genious hath no motivation

well, genious and insanity, I guess

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Oct 27, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's racist!

Students: Chicago nightclub barred blacks

Bar personnel cited dress code violations — specifically baggy jeans — when barring the African-American students, according to Washington University senior class president Fernando Cutz, who was among students admitted to the bar.

A white student and a black student exchanged jeans to see what would happen, and the white student was admitted while his classmate still was kept outside, Cutz said.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 26, 2009 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't have the time or space to talk about my history of ejections from bars and clubs

But I bet no one has ever asked Lenny to leave…until now

To understand Israel and the Middle East, you must understand Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. -Glenn Beck (former cocaine addict and pedophile.)

by Madville on Oct 27, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kicked out of a bar once

for having a fake ID. They didn’t check ID’s at the door, so we walked right in. A buddy and I were out of town on a Sunday and wanted to watch football. We were on the road and stopped in a small podunk town at a ‘sports bar’. The place had all of 5 people in it. We sat down and started watching football. 5 Minutes later the bartender asks to see my ID. I pulled out the wallet and handed her the ID. After staring at it for a about 45 seconds she handed it back to me and began to laugh. Told me that I had to leave. Man was I confused because I was 22 at the time. My friend was told he could stay because his ID was real. We went into the parking lot and examined them to see the differences. We couldn’t find them.

by dougdirt on Oct 27, 2009 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

was it a velcro wallet?

That might have done it.

Definitely a good argument.

by Slyde on Oct 27, 2009 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was once ejected from a seedy joint in Slidell, MS after refusing to remove my hat

Problem was, the gentleman asking me to remove my hate was the same gentleman to whom I paid a cover. I got my cover charge back and left. Almost got my ass kicked too.

"What the hell are spanks????"

by jch24 on Oct 27, 2009 6:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why didn't you...

…just remove your hate?

You know they aren’t into hate in MS.

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by BubbaFan on Oct 27, 2009 6:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is, believe it or not,

all over the student paper, thus getting in my face when I want to get into the crosswords

"And then there was the USAID guy in Kandahar who drove a giant pink Cadillac, which the locals set on fire one day. If you wanted to destroy something symbolic during a riot, you just could not do better than that. Good stuff." - Ghosts of Alexander

by Cy Schourek on Oct 27, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice Ballot

I usually dont put pitchers on my mvp list because they have their own award. And like the bbwaa I tend to give extra credence to players on winning teams.

If I recall my ballot was Pujols, Ramirez, Howard, Fielder, Utley, Sandoval, Votto, Lee, Tulo, Braun. With Lincecum as Cy Young and McCutcheon as ROY.

by backtocali on Oct 27, 2009 9:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Winning team/best player

Out of tradition I also like the MVP to come from a winning team. But I think pitchers should get a fairer shake. Lincecum has a very credible case for MVP, imo.

Does anyone remember the Hank Aaron award? If it was elevated to the same significance as the CYA and MVP, we could allow the MVP to simply be the best “story” and reserve the best pitcher/hitter debates to the CYA and HAA.

by ken on Oct 27, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why 'Sleeping on It' Helps

At least if you’re a foot fairy expert.

According to this article, you make the best decisions if you think about something unconsciously. They tested it by having soccer fans guess the outcome of matches. Thinking about it unconsciously produced better results than thinking about it consciously or not thinking about it. Supposedly because if you think about something consciously, your biases slip in.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 27, 2009 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

interesting

there were times when I thought Dusty was sleeping on it during the game. It being his ass.

Definitely a good argument.

by Slyde on Oct 27, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

My entire life philosophy has been validated

I haven’t consciously thought over a decision in YEARS.

"What the hell are spanks????"

by jch24 on Oct 27, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Decisions are overated

To understand Israel and the Middle East, you must understand Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. -Glenn Beck (former cocaine addict and pedophile.)

by Madville on Oct 27, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

correction

Well thought out decisions are overrated.

i mean sometimes Walt is like a prison shower, you know it is gonna happen, but it isn’t a good thing.

by justin007000 on Oct 27, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I stand corrected.

To understand Israel and the Middle East, you must understand Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. -Glenn Beck (former cocaine addict and pedophile.)

by Madville on Oct 28, 2009 7:55 AM EDT reply actions  

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