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Red Reposter - "We are the team to beat in 2010"

  • Brandon Phillips says the Reds are "the team to beat in the National League Central in 2010"
    Here's his rationale:

    "For one thing, we have a pretty darn good team when we're all healthy," Phillips said. "The problem is we never had our whole team together this season. Then I look at all the guys who have been called up when we've had to use the disabled list and those guys can play. So, I figure when we get to spring training next year, it's going to be very interesting. We're going to have all our regulars healthy. Then we're going to have all the guys who got thrown into the fire this year and that's going to give us better depth. That's why I look at it and say we're the team to beat. We've got a lot of good players."

    So the reason the team lost this season was because many starters were hurt and replaced with minor leaguers. But one reason the team will be better next year is the depth those young guys provide. I'm not discounting the team's chances for next year (I'm actually much more hopeful than I thought I would be), but BP needs a refresher course in basic logic.

  • And the Bronson Arroyo/John Smoltz/Tony LaRussa/Dave Duncan/muddy balls saga continues
    Dennis Janson thinks LaRussa bought off the clubhouse attendant that claimed the balls had been de-mudded (is such a thing even possible?). Clubhouse attendants arent paid well, and they get by mostly on the tips they receive. Janson says LaRussa is one of the most generous tippers in the big leagues, so it would behoove the attendant to not upset LaRussa and call him out. I'm already tired of this story.

  • Fay has some arbitration information
    Jonny Gomes, Corky Miller, and Laynce Nix are all arb-eligible, and Jared Burton, Nick Masset, and Micah Owings could be arb-eligible as Super-2s.

  • FanGraphs has broken down Bronson Arroyo's roller-coaster season into quarters
    And just like LeBron James, he's nails in the 4th.

  • Drew Stubbs has 11 infield hits in his short time in Cincy
    And only 30 singles all together. Much of that has to do with his speed. "He isn't going to keep surprising 'em," said Baker. "They'll shorten up in the infield and open up holes for him. Speed is a wonderful thing. It makes you hurry, it makes you make mistakes and makes you do things you don't ordinarily do. I welcome it, I love speed."

  • Doug at RML has been running his State of the Farm lists this week.  Here is Catcher, First base, and 2nd base.

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Dusty loves speed.

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Oct 2, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

A2A

Sig lines are for suckas.

by jch24 on Oct 2, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

doug at RML is a title thief

please don’t link to him

Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,

by 'tHan on Oct 2, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

The Cubs taint everything with losing

Chicago received the fewest votes to be the host city for the 2016 Olympics.

by Brendanukkah on Oct 2, 2009 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

the world hates the united states

Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...

by boobs on Oct 2, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, the world hates the Cubs

and that’s totally justifiable

I'mma let you finish, but....

by nycredsfan on Oct 2, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

hey if i stay here for my ph.d

which isn’t real likely since i think i want to get a high school certification before i start the ph.d thing, because 8 years of grad school seems really daunting, i am glad chicago is not getting the olympics.

The Reds need a new manager, one like Putin.

by justin007000 on Oct 2, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

study up justin

and that GED will be yours before you know it!

Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,

by 'tHan on Oct 2, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

"I welcome it, I love speed"

least necessary quote ever.

I'mma let you finish, but....

by nycredsfan on Oct 2, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Arroyo'd

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Oct 2, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

dirty nasty bad ass speed

-Eleanor Roosevelt

The Reds need a new manager, one like Putin.

by justin007000 on Oct 2, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wanna go fast

"I never should have given up the animation rights."

by BobbyO on Oct 2, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who's David Letterman?

Jay Bruce will become a major league baseball STAR, starting in April, 2010.....

by Madville on Oct 2, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Madville'd

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Oct 2, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Generally logical

BP’s comments make sense to me. Those minor leaguers will have a year of major league experience that they wouldn’t have had going into next year. Spring training will be more competitive for spots too.

by Concepcionforhall on Oct 2, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Hi, Hello, & Welcome

I don’t mind BP spouting off from time to time. I just wish he’d stop swinging at pitches closer to my backyard than the strike zone.

Sig lines are for suckas.

by jch24 on Oct 2, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

BP was on the right track

He just didn’t quite get it right. The injuries this year will help for next year because it finally forced Dusty to play some of the younger players. Thus, we all found out the younger players were much better. Now.. if only we could be sure that Dusty would continue to play those guys next year.

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Oct 2, 2009 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Ahhh, now if only

“we could be sure that [insert any manager name other than Dusty] would continue to play those guys next year.”

Set the gearshift to the high gear of your soul.

by Kevin Mitchell is Batman on Oct 2, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

the problem is

it wasnt the injuries that kept the team from winning. they werent that good to begin with, and then on top of that Dusty played the wrong players in the wrong positions. Votto missed a month, but it was Hernandez who took his spot, sliding Hanigan in at catcher. Hanigan was actually better than Hernandez at catcher, but Hernandez was Dusty’s “veteran RBI man” so he took precedence. so had Votto not been injured, Hernandez would have played anyway. and he played at replacement level. then he got hurt too, which was actually fortuitous.

Bruce was hurt for 2 months, but his struggling bat made him a merely average player. his defense was and still is spectacular, so that was difficult to replace, but the drop off from Bruce to Wladdy/Nix/Gomes wasnt drastic, if even a drop at all.

losing Volquez did hurt. he was the team’s best pitcher last year and was pitching well to begin the season. not as well as last season (he had 20 walks in his first 20 innings), but still good. by my off-the-cuff estimation, losing him cost the team about 2-3 wins.

i cant think of any other “key” injuries. Harang went out in August, but the team was already kaput by then. Gonzo was injured early on, but he sucked so that actually helped. Taveras’ injury really helped. Lincoln’s injury is a non-factor. EdE was hurt for a while, and i can believe that he was probably injured long before he was put on the DL, which may have contributed to his poor play.

my point is that this whole “injury” excuse is bullshit. the team was bad because there wasnt much talent to begin with, and to compound upon that the talent was used ineffectively. but these injuries hardly compare to what the Mets went through this season. now they are a team that can legitimately make the injury excuse. now if the Reds had lost Carlos Beltran and Jose Reyes and the like, then it would be a whole nother story. i get what youre saying about Dusty learning that the young’uns (Stubbs, Janish) were better than the guys they replaced, but is that enough?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 2, 2009 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

1989 Reds season..........a year of injured starters......

…..and a year of utility players and minor leaguers gaining experience.

1990……the year we won it all.

Could be……could be…….

by Dude Rock on Oct 2, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

A thought occurs

Brandon Phillips didn’t know that fractured and broken meant the same thing. Maybe he’s confused that “being the team to beat,” and “being a team to beat” are different.

by Brendanukkah on Oct 2, 2009 2:36 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Reds fired Dick Pole

according to Sheldon’s Twitter.

My fantasy football team this year? Lippincott's Shorts

by cesarhernandez on Oct 2, 2009 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah no more Dick Pole

paving the way for Dave Duncan?

My fantasy football team this year? Lippincott's Shorts

by cesarhernandez on Oct 2, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

The way things have been going in the Announer's boxes

I really wouldn’t be surprised to see Brantley get his dumb-ass into the mix somewhere.
If Bob listens to WLW he actually think that clownboy knows what he’s talking about…which is in its self a scary thought

Jay Bruce will become a major league baseball STAR, starting in April, 2010.....

by Madville on Oct 2, 2009 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I like Brantley......

…….I set you up for the perfect nasty comeback. Let me have it.

by Dude Rock on Oct 3, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brantley's 1st day in ST as pitching coach;

Brantley “OK guys – lets stop soft tossing now and get some work in.’
Ted Power” Listen up, coach has got some instruction for you"
Brantley: We are going to work on changing the batter’s eye level while looking at several pitches in a row simultaneously. I want you to zero in, high and tight, on the batter’s head with your first two pitches and then with the third pitch…bammo…its a two seamer on the inside of the plate that works in to the righty batter and away from the lefties.just hit the target and bullseye you’re Bob Gibson – you first Arthur"
Rhodes “Fuck you, I need to work on my throw over pivot”
Brantley “OK then, you show us how Danny Ray”
DRH " I may be short..but I’m not stupid, I need to work on my alignment’
Power" OK guys good instructional exercise lets move over to the mound and work on pick off moves"
Brantley" But I paid good money for that pitching aid’

Jay Bruce will become a major league baseball STAR, starting in April, 2010.....

by Madville on Oct 3, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

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