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Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game

Chris Carpenter.  Not only did Carpenter pitch five innings of shutout ball, not only did he allow a mere three hits, not only did he strike out six, but he also went 2-3 with 6 RBI, including a grand slam.  Albert who?!

Key Plays

  • Kip Wells pitched a scoreless first inning.
  • Chris Carpenter hit a grand slam in the second.  That's about as key a play as there is.  When you give up a home run to the pitcher, it's bad.  When it's his first home run of his career, it's bad.  When it's with the bases loaded, it's bad. 
  • Kip Wells gave up five runs, Micah Owings gave up four runs, Carlos Fisher gave up three runs, and li'l Danny Ray Herrera only gave up the one.

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Other Notes

  • After some whinging by the Cardinals after their loss last night, a beanball fest seemed inevitable.  Scott Rolen and Juan Francisco got plunked for the good guys, while Kip Wells hit Brendan Ryan, one of the few Cardinals not hitting Kip Wells.
  • The last Cardinals pitcher to hit a grand slam was Kent Mercker in 1998.
  • The Reds only had five hits, but Adam Rosales had two of them.  Their only extra base hit came courtesy of Micah Owings.
  • El Nino Destructor has a .500 OBP.  Sustainability, schmustainability, that's just fun!
  • Chris Carpenter is really good when it comes to facing the Reds.  Entering this game, he had a 0.846 WHIP against them, the second lowest of any team he's faced more than once.  And now, it's a little bit closer to the 0.838 he has against Tampa Bay.

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i guess today the Cardinals pitchers had pine tar

and the Reds pitchers had none. There is something between Dusty and Tony, they had problems when Dusty was managing in Chicago.

The Reds need a new manager, one like Putin.

by justin007000 on Oct 1, 2009 5:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

or they are like an old married couple…

The Reds need a new manager, one like Putin.

by justin007000 on Oct 1, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He gave up a grand slam

to the pitcher?

Christ on a cracker.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i still love you

"strikeouts are a lot sexier than groundouts"

by smitty3 on Oct 1, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

madville is rubbing off on you

The Reds need a new manager, one like Putin.

by justin007000 on Oct 1, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

eyewwwwww

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2009 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a short U sound, BTW

Damned text, no tone of voice.

Sig lines are for suckas.

by jch24 on Oct 1, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

//demote'd

now you opened up a spot for madville.

The Reds need a new manager, one like Putin.

by justin007000 on Oct 1, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funny, I'm not so sure you're the person to do that

And for the record, I’d be perfectly content with not being a mod. I could give two shits.

Sig lines are for suckas.

by jch24 on Oct 1, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

cough/bullshit/cough

Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,

by 'tHan on Oct 1, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's one.

IAN! I'm on traain!

by andromache on Oct 1, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

come on jch you know i love you

The Reds need a new manager, one like Putin.

by justin007000 on Oct 1, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what?

The Reds need a new manager, one like Putin.

by justin007000 on Oct 1, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude

in your eye?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the grey one looks like my cat

chekov.

The Reds need a new manager, one like Putin.

by justin007000 on Oct 2, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you named your cat after a Star Trek character?

Nerd!

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 2, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually my mom named him after Anton

because he is a Russian Blue so he needed a Russian name.

The Reds need a new manager, one like Putin.

by justin007000 on Oct 2, 2009 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only Anton I'd name a pet after is

Jay Bruce will become a major league baseball STAR, starting in April, 2010.....

by Madville on Oct 2, 2009 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i heard the Pittsburgh Symphony Orchestra perform Symphony of the New World in person last fall

it was great. The one problem with being in a “first class city” is it is more difficult to go to events like the symphony or baseball games because they are much more expensive and tickets are much harder to come by.

The Reds need a new manager, one like Putin.

by justin007000 on Oct 2, 2009 3:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if enough people see this comment

it could wind up being the most rec’d of all time

Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,

by 'tHan on Oct 2, 2009 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually probably not

my mom with her two masters degrees is a worse speller than I. My dad is a great speller, saddly i got my mom’s spelling and handwriting and my dads intellect…

The Reds need a new manager, one like Putin.

by justin007000 on Oct 2, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's 4,768 games behind Mack

in games managed without wearing a suit.

by ken on Oct 1, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love for Kip

          Hey, he stunk it up today but we did manage to win 5 of the 7 games he started and before today he was 2-1 with a 3.79 ERA in 6 starts. I’m not saying we shouldn’t kick him out the door, but considering how crappy the bottom of the rotation was doing in August, Kip deserves some kudos, doesn’t he?

by no1marauder on Oct 1, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No, Mrs. Wells.

It’s inexcusable that the Reds signed Josh Fogg AFTER the rest of the league learned first-hand how awful he is, and then we do the same thing in signing Kip Wells. They’re the same damn guy, always have been.

And dammit if we didn’t do the same damn thing with Patterson and then Taveras. PAY ATTENTION, WALT! IT’S YOUR GODDAMN JOB!

by Brian B on Oct 1, 2009 6:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

this time it was a little different

he was a mid-season pick up, the Reds are paying him league minimum, or just above it.

The Reds need a new manager, one like Putin.

by justin007000 on Oct 1, 2009 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd for Mrs. Wells

Sig lines are for suckas.

by jch24 on Oct 1, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

RIF

          Do we win 5 games that Josh Fogg pitched in his entire career? Kip started 7, we won 5. That’s not too bad for a back of the rotation, minimum salary pick up. Walt did his job; he got somebody in there that could help us win a few ballgames. Stop living in the past, Methuselah.

by no1marauder on Oct 1, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

come on

Wells has been awful. the team won those games because other guys hit the ball hard. how is that too complicated?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 1, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clearly, Kip knows how to win!

If you couldn’t see that in today’s game, I don’t know what to tell you.

Let me write out a formal proof for you.

by Gray on Oct 1, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Read a Game By Game Log

           In Wells’ 6 starts before today, we scored a grand total 25 runs or 4.2 a game. That’s hardly killing the ball; in only two did we score over 4. Kip in those 6 games gave up 15 runs. That’s “awful”?

by no1marauder on Oct 1, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

read his career stats

he was a decent pitcher back in the day, but he’s washed up. sure, i’ll give him an attaboy for not crapping himself out there for the Reds this past month. but he stinks. he’s a non-issue.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 1, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hal seems to think Bronson will get the ball when the Reds retake the field against the Cardinals on that beautiful spring day next April that we call Opening Day.

I’d still give it to Harang, if nothing else he has gotten it every year since 2006, might as well keep that streak going.

The Reds need a new manager, one like Putin.

by justin007000 on Oct 1, 2009 6:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you sir are a hopeless (or maybe in this case hopeful romantic)

Jay Bruce will become a major league baseball STAR, starting in April, 2010.....

by Madville on Oct 1, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i have no god or religion

i just have this game that keeps me going through the winter. I wake up and it is 15 degree’s with dirty snow, and I think about baseball, I think about once again watching the big guy take to the mound, and throw the first pitch, and the umpiring singing Strike, and thinking this, this, this, this is why i didn’t disembowel myself over this long hellish winter.

The Reds need a new manager, one like Putin.

by justin007000 on Oct 1, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that and the fact that you are not Japanese

Jay Bruce will become a major league baseball STAR, starting in April, 2010.....

by Madville on Oct 1, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

really?

The Reds need a new manager, one like Putin.

by justin007000 on Oct 1, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am very happy I missed this disaster

13-0? That is disgraceful?! A grandslam to the pitcher?! After all that cheating talk, I really hate the Cardinals. I will cheer for them to be immediately swept in the playoffs.

by Red_Poodle on Oct 1, 2009 7:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Kip Wells line killed me

Well done sir.

Sig lines are for suckas.

by jch24 on Oct 1, 2009 7:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone esle think Kip Wells haircut looks vaguely Lloyd Christmas'?

My brother pointed this out to me when we were at a game. I think he might be right

by Red_Poodle on Oct 1, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great recap

but when I load up RR and see that picture of Carpeneter and the score it is like a giant obscene gesture. Hopefully we play well for the last two Pirate games. I wonder if they will cry foul and try to “muddy” our pitcher’s reputations

by Red_Poodle on Oct 1, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we managed to land a louisville bats pitcher on our softball team tonight

he’s in town for his wedding and got uber excited when our skipper called him to fill in. nobody knew who he was despite wearing a louisville bats under armor shirt with his number on the back. i don’t think i’m at liberty to say who it was, but we talked baseball a little bit. so much fun.

my questions were:
1. what’s drew stubbs like? quiet but witty. tremendous instincts. most talented player in the minors. fastest ballplayer he’s ever seen in person.
   1a. why didn’t he hit a lot of home runs this year at AAA? the organization put him on a “plan” which limited him to trying to get on base and steal as many bases as possible. they told him to try to hit a line drive every time at the plate. they’re grooming him to be a lead off hitter though he puts on a show during batting practice.
2. what’s jonny gomes like? his best friend on the team when he was at AAA. they were roommates together on the road. big practical joker, hilarious sense of humor, extremely nice. he called gomes the hardest working player on the team when he was down. if the reds don’t lock him up he’ll be an everyday left fielder for somebody else.

some other guys talked to him a lot more, and i heard him say that homer bailey is dominant but easily distracted. heisey is a ways off from a shot, no matter what organization. he also thinks he himself will probably never make it up to the show. we laughed, but he knows the plan for him and the others around him. he doesn’t see his name on baseball america’s lists, nobody talks about him on the national stage. he’s ok with it because he gets to play ball for a decent living.

by GrooveLeg on Oct 1, 2009 10:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he's not a pitcher

I’m guessing Jeff Kennard.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is my guess as well.

From Centerville (Reds country), and about the same age as Gomes.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Oct 1, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and a career minor leaguer

Nine years in pro baseball, and not even a cup of coffee.

He was originally drafted by the Yanks.

I guess Al Leiter is wrong. The other day, he said that he didn’t think that type of player kept playing because it was a good job and you could earn a living. He said the guys that stay that long are still holding onto The Dream.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Oct 1, 2009 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well i mean it could be that he doesn't know what else he will do with his life

and every year he plays professional baseball, is one more year before he has to find a normal job.

The Reds need a new manager, one like Putin.

by justin007000 on Oct 1, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh

i read “player” instead of “pitcher”.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Oct 1, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you had this guy there and you did not ask him what Dermott McFuckme was like?

A wasted opportunity.

Jay Bruce will become a major league baseball STAR, starting in April, 2010.....

by Madville on Oct 1, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm almost positive I know who it is

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Oct 1, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As in, I have it narrowed down to two

Depending on how old you are and what part of Reds country you’re from

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Oct 1, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm almost positive i don't care

snark’d

Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,

by 'tHan on Oct 1, 2009 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

liggins apologist

Alway the optimist...I like your think kid...

by boobs on Oct 1, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He's sooooo smart!

and rec’d

Made from 100% Recycled Awesome,

by 'tHan on Oct 1, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

do they really call it "the show"?

actually The 26th Man is an interesting account in the year of a life of a AAAA pitcher. Steve Fireovid wrote a diary in 1990 characterizing his year with the Indianapolis Indians. Fireovid is from our neck of the woods he grew up in Bryan, OH and went to Miami. I really enjoyed the book.

The Reds need a new manager, one like Putin.

by justin007000 on Oct 1, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bet he made more money on the book than he did playing baseball

I’ll have to check that out.

"We, as for me all seasons you are affected peculiarly in the edge of my seat and are happy concerning the fact that the Adam Dunn fan has been mixed up exactly." - Reynard-san

by BK on Oct 1, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it is interesting

mel rojas is in it, along with a few other players who came up through Montreal. He is really honest about his chances, he is disappointed about not making it to the show, but he isn’t whiny In the early 80s he was blue chip prospect in San Diego’s organization, but it just didn’t happen. He did see big league time in 1993, and he was a replacement player in 1995. He says he was a replacement player not for the money, but it gave him one last opportunity to play competitive baseball at a high level. He actually seems pretty at peace with his career.

The Reds need a new manager, one like Putin.

by justin007000 on Oct 2, 2009 3:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's pretty much how he looks at it.

he said he wouldn’t want to do anything else at this point in his life (who would?). he’s still under 30 and his soon-to-be-wife is going to be a doctor… so…. yeah……………..

by GrooveLeg on Oct 2, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

interesting news

You get better informaiton than Piecoro. I got the impression Gomes was like that, but it’s nice to hear from someone who works with him every day.

The Stubbs info is particularly interesting. It’s strange that they would try to contain his power hitting. I know they were grooming him for leadoff, but it seems like such a great talent that you would want to develop it.

I hope that pitcher (no names lol) continues to enjoy his job. He may get called up at some point. If Kip Wells can get another chance in the big leagues after yesterday, then just about anyone might get a shot.

by Red_Poodle on Oct 2, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who knows if it's really true or not, although I guess we have no reason to doubt the guy

but even if they were grooming Stubbs to be a leadoff guy, why the hell tell him to not try to hit homers? I’ll never understand limiting a guy’s plate approach like that. It’s like Dusty’s head will explode if his leadoff guy is hitting homers, because that’s not his traditional role!

I'mma let you finish, but....

by nycredsfan on Oct 2, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i was surprised to hear that too.

but doesn’t it make sense when you take the data from this year’s AAA season and compare it to his past seasons and his major league time? did you see that shot in the All Star game? the dude has power. and his numbers didn’t suggest that he was homer happy either (maybe if you look at his Ks) but if he was, wouldn’t we see a few more HR out of him?

i suppose they could have said, “don’t hit home runs.” but i have a feeling it was more like, “try to hit the top half of the ball more so you can get on base and steal.”

and i literally have zero reason to make this stuff up.

by GrooveLeg on Oct 2, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good thing that Rickey Henderson retired

Could you imagine Henderson as a the lead-off guy for the Reds…Dusty’s entire body would have exploded.

Jay Bruce will become a major league baseball STAR, starting in April, 2010.....

by Madville on Oct 2, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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