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According to Mark Sheldon:

Free agent Jerry Hairston Jr. is returning to the Reds. A baseball source told MLB.com that Hairston and the club agreed to terms on a one-year contract worth a guaranteed $2 million on Tuesday. It's an incentive laden deal that could be worth up to $4 million.

An announcement is expected on Wednesday. The Royals and Cardinals were the other teams competing for Hairston's services.

It appears that Cincinnati plans to make Hairston its starting shortstop this season because Alex Gonzalez won't be ready.

I don't mind re-signing Hairston, but I don't like him being the starting SS.

And I guess this means they still need an outfielder...

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Gonzalez won't be ready?

Ha! Let’s give him a raise!

by Brian B on Jan 6, 2009 11:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ugh

Can they just release Alex Gonzalez? What the heck is wrong with his leg that it’s taken this long to heal?

You went full retard. No one ever comes back from that. - Sgt. Osiris

by cesarhernandez on Jan 6, 2009 11:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Marcus Giles

Did you also see that Marcus Giles decided he wanted to play baseball again and signed with the Phillies on a minor league deal? That whole situation is bizarre. Did he need some time off to figure out how to succeed without PEDs?

by Brian B on Jan 6, 2009 11:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Or to continue using PEDs without being caught ;-)

Actually, I don’t think it’s that strange. It’s not uncommon for players to retire, then come back after a year or two. They get tired of playing, but find they miss it after they quit.

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by BubbaFan on Jan 6, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

or are too injured

to play for a certain year, and/or have personal reasons to step away for awhile

by sharks on Jan 7, 2009 4:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of backups shortstops...

The Pittsburgh Pirates offered minor league contracts with spring training invites to former Reds Anderson Machado and Pedro Lopez. They will be vying with Andy Phillips, among others, for a reserve infielder spot.

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by BubbaFan on Jan 6, 2009 11:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

And Hairston could make 4 mil

if he reaches incentives…..So Hairston, if he has a good season, is worth half as much as one Pat Burrell….that makes sense. Ugh.

You went full retard. No one ever comes back from that. - Sgt. Osiris

by cesarhernandez on Jan 6, 2009 11:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

My guess

Is that it’s injuries they’re worried about. That’s why the Royals passed. They were afraid Hairston wouldn’t stay healthy. The incentives may be for staying off the DL.

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by BubbaFan on Jan 6, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, remember this?
"With the addition of Willy Taveras and Ramon Hernandez, along with Alex Gonzalez and Brandon Phillips, our defense substantially improves up the middle"

You sound completely full of shit now, Walt.

It appears that Cincinnati plans to make Hairston its starting shortstop this season because Alex Gonzalez won’t be ready.

“Hairston” and “starting” shouldn’t be ever typed in the same sentence. Ever.

Hairston was one of the better players on the Reds last year, but come on. A starting job? At a defensively challenging position? Potentially 4 million dollars? After an outlier year? With all of those injuries? Jockerty, you’ve got some ’splainin to do.

I guess it could be worse. He could have been “the answer” in LF.

"You are not my ass." - Reynard

by BK on Jan 6, 2009 11:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

How can you complain about a 1 year deal for 2 mil?

I mean come on, we need another SS/util and Cherry was pretty damn decent last year. Outliner yes, but he had to have other offers for more money. Jocketty is sticking to the plan of not handing out long term deals like candy(Krivsky) while filling a short term needs.

by Dave from Louisville on Jan 6, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

bottom line

is this team needs a long term solution at short.

by sharks on Jan 7, 2009 4:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

"Hairston" and "starting" shouldn’t be ever typed in the same sentence. Ever.

Especially not in a sentence that violates its own rule. Ever.

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by PeteyHendrix on Jan 7, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I like this deal!!!!! As long as he isn't the LF guy.

No more Keppinger at SS!!!!!!!!!

I bet the incentives are based on plate appearances.

by Dave from Louisville on Jan 6, 2009 11:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Really?

Because Hairston and Keppinger played a heck of a lot of LF and SS way back in 2008.

by Brian B on Jan 6, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hmm- the Reds have a strange way of improving

2 easily correctible situations. Horrid offense in CF. And they sign a player that has a legitimate chance to be worse than Corey Patterson.
Horrid SS defensive. and I will guarantee Hairston will be worse defensively than Keppinger in a year that Kepp broke his knee cap. Hairston for his career comes in -15 runs at SS. Not that many games because apparently only the Reds are crazy enough to play Jerry at SS.
I dont mind Hairston but please keep him in the outfield.

by davidmac84 on Jan 6, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I agree that SS/3B defense needs dramatic improvement

But with whats out on the market Cherry was the best available at SS. This situation needs to be fixed longterm by 2010 but I am OK with Cherry for 1 year.

by Dave from Louisville on Jan 6, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Furcal was on the market

fuck it, Juan Castro was on the market. Orlando Cabrera would have been better for the same money. And even (gulp) David Eckstein wouldn’t have been the end of the world… and there would have been better defense at SS. The fact that we took a position that we were weak at and further weakened ourselves there makes this not so good of a deal.

"You are not my ass." - Reynard

by BK on Jan 7, 2009 6:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I have to agree with BK

out of Hairston’s $2mil contract, 1.5 goes to Hairston, 500k goes to clubhouse repairs for the times when Harang goes 8IP 6H 1BB 9K 2ER and gets the L.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Jan 7, 2009 9:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd

I like Cherry, but he’s got a hole in his glove at SS.

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by BubbaFan on Jan 7, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is that Dunn loafing in there?

I mean, COME ON! (GOB) He isn’t even trying! I think this photo needs some thought bubbles.. It could be a good contest..

Education is what you get from reading the directions. Experience is what you get from not reading them.

by snohio on Jan 7, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

That’s Dunn loafing in the background.

Here’s Dunn not loafing:

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by BubbaFan on Jan 7, 2009 1:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather see Keppinger as SS

I think he’s better than Hairston. (Which isn’t saying much.) Hairston has played very little SS, and has been truly terrible when he has.

Bring back Paul Janish.

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by BubbaFan on Jan 6, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And Keppinger is a much better bet to hit well

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 7, 2009 7:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

no, there definitely will be some lumps with either player

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 7, 2009 8:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He is the better flat out option, though

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 7, 2009 8:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

now is the time

move phillips to short. im sure he wants to. im equally sure he can handle it very well. i would much rather see kepp/hairston at 2B that SS. if it takes him some time to adjust, fine. i dont think anyone expects the reds to do anything next year. whatever . . .

by saboscork on Jan 6, 2009 11:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'd be fine with this solution too

For once I’d love to see a little creativity and common sense with a situation like this. You have a chance to improve the defense and offense at SS and not lose a ton of production at 2B. This isn’t common sense?

"You are not my ass." - Reynard

by BK on Jan 7, 2009 6:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How can Hairston hit second if he's not playing shortstop?

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by Man Mountain on Jan 7, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good point.

If they moved Hairston to 2B, he’d be batting cleanup.

"You are not my ass." - Reynard

by BK on Jan 7, 2009 10:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Reds.com

has the Hairston signing as its top story. It says Hairston will likely be the #2 hitter, behind Taveras.

And speaking of Taveras…no jersey number yet, but he’s already been Photoshopped into a Reds uniform.

Then there’s this article, about how the Reds may have their eye on Baldelli. Also interesting is the speculation about whether Jocketty is kicking himself for not pursuing Burrell, or if they’re just so cheap they wouldn’t even shell out what Burrell got.

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by BubbaFan on Jan 7, 2009 6:43 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Whoa

Taveras has a number now. He’s wearing #3.

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by BubbaFan on Jan 7, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I wish I could rec this more than once

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Jan 7, 2009 5:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And the door officially closes on the Ken Griffey, Jr. era

The White Sox (or whoever picks him up next) are responsible for the deferred payments on his contract, right?

by Brendanukkah on Jan 7, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt it

I’m guessing that all deferred payments are considered part of the year that the original payments were supposed to be made. That is to say, since the Reds have been receiving the interest on that money, they are on the hook for the payments.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 7, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This is bullshit

Gonzales isn’t going to be ready?

Why the hell didn’t we sign Furcal? Would’ve eliminated the need to sign T-Virus, and given us a real SS

IDIOTS!

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Jan 7, 2009 8:57 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

t-virus, heh funny.

by sharks on Jan 8, 2009 5:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

God, I love sports reporting.

No back-up info about why Seabass will not be ready. No quotes attributing the idea that Hairston will start at short. No info about the incentives. What a bunch of hackery in the name of being first with this little bullshit story.

I didn’t want Hairston back because if he’s healthy, Dusty will start him no matter what. On the bright side, it’s only for one season. On the down side, you mean to tell me that Taveras couldn’t have been signed for one season for much less than he’s guaranteed. This organization changes GMs and owners and still can’t wipe its ass with a roadmap.

On another bright note, I have no faith that this team will compete this year and will look for the bright prospect future. But, if they get no time to cut their teeth this year, how will we be a winner before ’11?

Slyde: "You're like the Ike Turner of RR commenters."

by Pops Daniels on Jan 7, 2009 9:08 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't be surprised if Stubbs and Valaika are up by mid-season

and Yonder and Frazier may get the September call up.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 7, 2009 10:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The only question for this season

is do the reds have enough pitching to get them to 4th place?

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Jan 7, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Me too

John Lithgow gets me all kinds of worked up.

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Jan 7, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

FWIW

I’ve updated the WAR spreadsheet to add Cherry. I knocked Laynce Nix off the roster and cut 175 plate appearances from Gonzalez. It netted the Reds 0.06 WAR. Chipping away. Slowly chipping away.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 7, 2009 11:41 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Well...

I think they should just add a bunch of replacement-level players. Then they could make it all up in volume.

Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.

by Paul Householder on Jan 7, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dudes

Fay’s blogpost on Hairston mentions what he did last season batting lead-off and speculates that projects to a 92-70 record!!!!

Hairston is the straw that stirs the Reds Drink! The Dodgers get Manny for that. We get Jerry Hairston.

by timb116 on Jan 7, 2009 12:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ugh

I see things so differently than Fay, it’s not even funny.

He prefers short to the outfield. His range is very good and he was pretty sure-handed.

There is no evidence to either of these points. His UZR at SS last year was -2.6 in 34 games – that’s -16.8 over the course of a season. His .970 fielding percentage was good, but middle of the pack given his playing time.

But, if you play him at short over Jeff Keppinger, you’re starting Chris Dickerson or Norris Hopper over Keppinger. Dickerson had a good 28-game run last year, but I like Keppinger over him or Hopper.

I think the point here is that the Reds have crap available at SS and LF. But seriously, after what Keppinger did last year, why does he get a pass compared to Dickerson or Hopper? Just because he was hurt? And why can’t anybody within the Reds media acknowledge that Keppinger was one of the worst defensive shortstops in the league last year?

As for where Hairston hits, the Reds were consistently good last year only when Hairston hit lead off. They went 25-19 with him hitting first. That punches up to a 92-70 record for the season. Hairston’s on-base was .384 overall and .427 in the leadoff spot. Taveras was .307.

This is a horrendous use of statistics. Terrible. Terrible. Terrible.

By the way, Gonzalez is working out in Miami. He’s able to do baseball activities. The plan is for him to see Dr. Tim Kremchek sometime shortly. The Reds will know much more then.

Really? When was the last time Kremchek successfully diagnosed something? He may be a helluva surgeon, but the guy sucks at figuring out the health of a player.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 7, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So,

Fay is directly contradicting the Sheldon report on Seabass’ health and availability for ’09.

Slyde: "You're like the Ike Turner of RR commenters."

by Pops Daniels on Jan 7, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

hinting that they just do not know, but have promised Hairston time at short erroneously.

Slyde: "You're like the Ike Turner of RR commenters."

by Pops Daniels on Jan 7, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Kremchek

Watch out. I have it on good authority that he has upgraded to poking stick 2.0, so he will become even more accurate.

Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.

by Paul Householder on Jan 7, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

behold the power of a fully operational poking stick

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by Man Mountain on Jan 7, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

oh great

now our medical staff is going to start using The Force to make diagnoses. Well, I suppose that’s better than the guessing they do now.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 7, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Let go of your hate.

Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.

by Paul Householder on Jan 7, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

FJM'd

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Jan 7, 2009 6:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

should Dunn sign for 1 year?

The economy is really bad:

In a state like Ohio . . . the economics are really bad. The Indians may have had the best offseason of anyone [signing reliever Kerry Wood, among others], and they can’t sell tickets. On the front page of the Sunday New York Times, there was a story that 10-12 major Broadway shows are closing down this month, the most ever. And I kind of compare that . . . they’re luxury items the way baseball games have become luxury items, and I think that may be a tell-tale sign about the economy.

(It really is bad on Broadway. About half of all Broadway plays are closing this month.)

So, maybe Adam Dunn should sign a one-year deal and hope for a better economy next year.

One possible fly in the ointment: what if the economy is even worse next year? That is looking increasingly possible, and if it happens, Dunn could be wishing he signed a multi-year deal, even if it’s for less than he thinks he’s worth.

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by BubbaFan on Jan 7, 2009 4:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I have little economic sympathy for millionaires.

shouldn’t he make the deal to go to the team where he will be happiest? Is there really that much of a difference between $10 million and $13 million?

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 7, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he'll be happiest

with the team that shows its “appreciation” the most.

Like the Donald used to say, “Money’s just a way of keeping score.”

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by BubbaFan on Jan 7, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

my point is that

if someone like Oakland (purely hypothetical) who appreciates the player’s contribution is willing to give him 3 years, but can only sacrifice $20-24 million to him, wouldn’t that be better than a one-year deal where he has to play through to 2010 at $10M and hopef for the best? Isn’t he already set financially? Why play the market just to maximize your dollar amount? I think people tend to lose perspective on what that kind of money really means.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 7, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Personally

I can’t imagine spending even one million dollars.

But obviously, it matters to these guys. If Dunn was willing to sign for cheap, he’d probably be signed already.

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by BubbaFan on Jan 7, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

not necessarily

I’m not opposed to players maximize the money they can get when shopping themselves to teams. I just think people suggesting that he take a one year deal to try to find a better deal next year (and Dunn if he does that) are being sillly, short-sighted, and have totally lost the meaning of that much money. That’s probably true anyway, but acting like this economic downturn really means something to these players (outside of making fewer millions than the millions they already make) is ridiculous to me.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 7, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Take this and go to NYC for the weekend

Mads, he is a crazy old man. Plus we have kinda had the same sabrametric evolution togeather.

Justin

by Madville on Jan 7, 2009 6:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Notice that Shysterball puts Adam at !b not OF

Mads, he is a crazy old man. Plus we have kinda had the same sabrametric evolution togeather.

Justin

by Madville on Jan 7, 2009 5:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

larry david's (ex?) wife

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Jan 7, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He doesn't get it.

I wonder if he is the real Paul Householder.

Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.

by Paul Householder on Jan 8, 2009 9:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't get it.

Are you the real Paul Householder?

by Brian B on Jan 8, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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