Community Prospect Rankings: #9
by BK
on Jan 5, 2009 9:00 PM EST
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Kyle Lotzkar squeaks by at #8. Venezuelan wunderkind Yorman Rodriguez takes his place on the list. Despite not having any numbers to go by, he's one of the most lucrative international signings in Reds history and has drawn comparisons to Eric Davis.
With high upside guys like Mesoraco, Rodriguez, and Duran on the board along with guys that are close to the majors like Dickerson, Roenicke, and Maloney, it'll be interesting what kind of direction this goes in. Vote now!
Josh Roenicke, RHRP:
John Sickels rank: 6
Redsminorleagues rank: 14
Age: 26
Draft/Acquisition Details: 10th round (pick 249), Reds, 2006
Last Level Played: MLB
2008 Statistics:
Chattanooga (AA): 22 G, 22 IP, 21 H, 12 BB, 28 SO, 3.27 ERA, 1.50 WHIP
Louisville (AAA): 35 G, 39 IP, 34 H, 14 BB, 43 SO, 2.54 ERA, 1.23 WHIP
Cincinnati (MLB): 5 G, 3 IP, 6 H, 2 BB, 6 SO, 9.00 ERA, 2.67 WHIP
Ramon Ramirez, RHSP:
John Sickels rank: 11
Redsminorleagues rank: 17
Age: 26
Draft/Acquisition Details: Signed out of Venezuela
Highest Level Played: MLB
2008 Statistics:
Chattanooga (AA): 11 G, 46.0 IP, 41 H, 15 BB, 52 SO, 4.70 ERA, 1.22 WHIP
Louisville (AAA): 19 G, 99.1 IP, 76 H, 42 BB, 93 SO, 3.08 ERA, 1.19 WHIP
Cincinnati (MLB): 5 G, 27.0 IP, 17 H, 11 BB, 21 SO, 2.67 ERA, 1.04 WHIP
Zach Stewart, RHRP:
John Sickels rank: 7
Redsminorleagues rank: 8
Age: 22
Draft/Acquisition Details: 3rd round (pick 84), Reds, 2008
Last Level Played: A+ (Sarasota)
2008 Statistics:
Texas (College): 20 G, 3 GS, 47 IP, 48 H, 21 BB, 43 SO, 4.98 ERA, 1.47 WHIP
Dayton (A): 11 G, 16.1 IP, 10 H, 3 BB, 13 SO, 0.55 ERA, 0.80 WHIP
Sarasota (A+): 13 G, 16.2 IP, 16H, 11BB, 23 SO, 1.62 ERA, 1.62 WHIP
Carlos Fisher, RHRP:
John Sickels rank: 19
Redsminorleagues rank: 13
Age: 25
Draft/Acquisition Details: 15th round (pick 450), Padres, 2001
Last Level Played: AAA (Louisville)
2008 Statistics:
Chattanooga (AA): 36 G, 50.2 IP, 52 H, 20 BB, 46 SO, 3.73 ERA, 1.42 WHIP
Louisville (AAA): 14 G, 17.1 IP, 14H, 9BB, 21 SO, 1.04 ERA, 1.33 WHIP
Matt Maloney, LHSP:
John Sickels rank: 13
Redsminorleagues rank: 29
Age: 24
Draft/Acquisition Details: 3rd round (pick 97), Phillies, 2005. Acquired in trade for Kyle Lohse.
Last Level Played: AAA (Louisville)
2008 Statistics:
GCL Reds (Rk): 1 G, 5.2 IP, 1 H, 0 BB, 9 SO, 0.00 ERA, 0.18 WHIP
Louisville (AAA): 25 G, 25 GS, 140.1 IP, 143 H, 39 BB, 132 SO, 4.68 ERA, 1.30 WHIP
Devin Mesoraco, C:
John Sickels rank: NR
Redsminorleagues rank: 6
Age: 20
Draft/Acquisition Details: Drafted 1st round (pick 15), Reds, 2007
Last Level Played: A (Dayton)
2008 Statistics:
Dayton (A): 80 G, 306 AB, .261/.311/.399
Danny Dorn,OF:
John Sickels rank: 16
Redsminorleagues rank: 9
Age: 24
Draft/Acquisition Details: Drafted 32nd round (pick 954), Reds, 2006
Last Level Played: AA (Chattanooga)
2008 Statistics:
Sarasota (A+): 5 G, 20 AB, .250/.286/.500
Chattanooga (AA): 98 G, 336 AB, .277/.367/.539
Juan Duran, OF:
John Sickels rank: 21
Redsminorleagues rank: 11
Age: 17
Draft/Acquisition Details: Signed out of D.R.
Last Level Played: Dominican Summer League
2008 Statistics:
DSL Reds (DSL): 41 G, 135 AB, .215/.340/.319
Chris Dickerson, OF:
John Sickels rank: 12
Redsminorleagues rank: 18
Age: 27
Draft/Acquisition Details: 16th round (pick 471), Reds, 2003
Last Level Played: MLB
2008 Statistics:
Louisville (AAA): 97 G, 349 AB, .287/.384/.479
Cincinnati (MLB): 31 G, 102 AB, .304/.413/.608
Yorman Rodriguez, OF:
John Sickels rank: 20
Redsminorleagues rank: 16
Age: 16
Draft/Acquisition Details: Signed out of D.R.
Last Level Played: NA
2008 Statistics:
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I voted Mesoraco
It just makes me too sad to think about him being a first round pick to not have him as a top 9 prospect
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on
Jan 5, 2009 9:10 PM EST
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It says a lot about how great our system is
That even our number 9 prospect is still a pretty good one, no matter who gets picked
"You are not my ass." - Reynard
by BK on
Jan 5, 2009 9:31 PM EST
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a lot of these guys are so close in my mind
mesoraco should go next though, I think. Zach Stewart’s not a bad choice…
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on
Jan 5, 2009 9:19 PM EST
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Dorn
he’s becoming my favorite under-the-radar prospect. from Billings thru Chattanooga over the last 3 years:
~1000 ABs
.297/.387/.528 K-rate 22% BB-rate 13%
he’s OPSed over .900 at every level. he could be the next Adam Dunn, and he’s gonna start the year in Louisville. if he were right-handed, i bet Walt would have a big ol’ rubbery one for him right now.
by Charlie Scrabbles on
Jan 5, 2009 9:29 PM EST
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i refuse to believe the dorn hype
not because i dont think he’ll be good, but because it helps to keep expectations down for a 32nd-rounder, keep him hungry and sech.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on
Jan 5, 2009 10:05 PM EST
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I think he got hurt his senior year
I can’t find a link right now, but it was something like that.
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
by Cy Schourek on
Jan 6, 2009 10:04 AM EST
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I don't think I'd call Dickerson a prospect
I think he’s proven himself to an extent.
People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.
by crolfer on
Jan 5, 2009 11:28 PM EST
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i wouldnt call him a prospect
because he’ll be 27 on opening day.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on
Jan 5, 2009 11:32 PM EST
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I think I've voted
for Roenicke 6 times in a row now. Come on JR!
"I'm standing at the plate thinking, Where are my hands? Where's this, where's that? Before I know it, the pitch is there and I'm completely out of rhythm." -
-- Adam Dunn
by Joe Nolan's Glasses on
Jan 5, 2009 11:31 PM EST
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+1
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on
Jan 6, 2009 8:30 AM EST
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I didnt know about the top 8
But I’ve been adamant in my support for Dorn as the #9 overall prospect all along. Its a no brainer.
by obc2 on
Jan 6, 2009 8:23 AM EST
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you should have made your case earlier
maybe i coulda been swayed!
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on
Jan 6, 2009 8:59 AM EST
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number nine, number nine, number nine
This is right where he belongs, no higher….no lower. Ive never been more certain of anything in my life. (Other than the fact UK was gonna cover the spread this weekend over UL)
by obc2 on
Jan 6, 2009 10:47 AM EST
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what was the spread?
for me and jch it was 16.5…
I’ll soon be $20 richer
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on
Jan 6, 2009 10:56 AM EST
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I went with Stewart
I think he’s going to move through the system quickly this year, but I’m also an idiot. This is evidenced by my going high risk/high reward in the bereavement pool with picks like Mary Kate Olsen.
I only avoided a shutout because I saw the Golden Girls while flipping through the channels during the creation of my list.
"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on
Jan 6, 2009 8:59 AM EST
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little favor,
don’t watch the inauguration while making your list
by jacob brumfield on
Jan 6, 2009 9:24 AM EST
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I won't.
I’m going to watch all of Kevin Costner’s movies and hope the magic works again.
"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on
Jan 6, 2009 9:41 AM EST
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Take that, Jeanne Tripplehorn!
Oh, and the little girl with the map to Dryland tattooed on her back? Yeah, she ended up selling glamour shots to Napoleon Dynamite.
by Brendanukkah on
Jan 6, 2009 10:12 AM EST
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are you drinking 2 percent because you think youre fat? Cuz you're not
you could be drinking whole if you wanted to
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on
Jan 6, 2009 11:26 AM EST
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you know
when i saw commercials about tampons i thought periods were girls asses. In 5th grade I learned in sex ed that they weren’t. I learned something that day.
Danny Dorn is totally number 9. He is a sleeper prospect. Look at his OPS and what not, the guy just mashes. I want him in the outfield at some point next year, I want to see Bruce, Stubbs, Dorn, and Dickerson patrolling the greens of Cincinnati.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on
Jan 6, 2009 12:43 PM EST
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nobody's ever said RR wasn't classy
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
by Slyde on
Jan 6, 2009 12:59 PM EST
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that is the problem with living alone
in years past i would have shared that with my room mate (except when I lived with the autistic kid), and it would be put out there. Now when these thoughts come to me when I’m in my apartment I either have to call somebody (wasting daytime minutes) or put them on the internet.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on
Jan 6, 2009 3:17 PM EST
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whatever
you’ve been saying stuff like that since you joined the site.
I think. Who can really tell what your posts say most of the time anyway?
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
by Slyde on
Jan 6, 2009 3:23 PM EST
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maybe there is a little madvile in me?
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on
Jan 6, 2009 3:37 PM EST
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Buy him a drink
and you could have a lotta Madville in you…..hey-o!
Slyde: "You're like the Ike Turner of RR commenters."
by Pops Daniels on
Jan 6, 2009 3:48 PM EST
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sit on the wrong toilet seat
and you could have a little jch in you…
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on
Jan 6, 2009 3:51 PM EST
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There's no such thing as a little jch
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on
Jan 6, 2009 3:52 PM EST
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that's not what _______'s ___ said
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on
Jan 6, 2009 3:57 PM EST
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??
B*tch T*ts?
Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.
by Paul Householder on
Jan 6, 2009 6:27 PM EST
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Is that sitting to pee?
Slyde: "You're like the Ike Turner of RR commenters."
by Pops Daniels on
Jan 6, 2009 3:58 PM EST
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because i like girly movies?
i see what you did there
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on
Jan 6, 2009 4:02 PM EST
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Nah
I sit to pee all the time out of sheer laziness. Frilly undergarments, on the other hand, make me feel pretty.
Slyde: "You're like the Ike Turner of RR commenters."
by Pops Daniels on
Jan 6, 2009 4:11 PM EST
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as they should
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on
Jan 6, 2009 4:12 PM EST
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pop's
i’m recing that because i was trying to be somebodies straight man.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on
Jan 6, 2009 4:12 PM EST
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fair enough
Slyde: "You're like the Ike Turner of RR commenters."
by Pops Daniels on
Jan 6, 2009 4:15 PM EST
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someone needs to teach you what straight means
maybe there’s a class right after apostrophe class?
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
by Slyde on
Jan 6, 2009 4:31 PM EST
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double rec'd
Man, he did it all “their”
by Brian B on
Jan 6, 2009 11:57 PM EST
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Y'all wish you could be as vague and yet enigmatic as I.
Although I do believe there could be some lost genetic link between Justin and me. Its a string theory kind of thing…
Lingus and Peppermint Panties can blow me.
M. Ville
by Madville on
Jan 7, 2009 12:42 PM EST
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man yall love you some chris dickerson
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on
Jan 6, 2009 2:16 PM EST
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and not a single person has justified that vote yet
I voted for Roenicke. I think he’ll be the closer in 2 years.
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
by Slyde on
Jan 6, 2009 3:26 PM EST
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i voted roenicke
by Daedalus on
Jan 6, 2009 4:08 PM EST
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just waiting to see who I voted for?
:)
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by Slyde on
Jan 6, 2009 4:31 PM EST
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sure thing!
plus there was the whole “daedalus incident”
by Daedalus on
Jan 6, 2009 5:12 PM EST
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C-Dick sucks!
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on
Jan 6, 2009 5:18 PM EST
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I don't understand why he's even on the list?
All Mickey Mouse films are founded on the motif of leaving home in order to learn what fear is.
by Man Mountain on
Jan 6, 2009 4:51 PM EST
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he was on both Sickels and Doug's lists
so I included him. Honestly, I was surprised that he was on Sickels’ list. I figured he was too old to be considered a prospect anymore.
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Jan 6, 2009 6:16 PM EST
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okidoke
All Mickey Mouse films are founded on the motif of leaving home in order to learn what fear is.
by Man Mountain on
Jan 6, 2009 11:13 PM EST
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Voted for Roenicke
The man love for C Dick is backlash from the Willy T signing
by Dave from Louisville on
Jan 6, 2009 4:53 PM EST
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I think people have been interested in Dickerson since long before Taveras was signed
I think the problem is that people are confusing “playing with the team in 2009” with being a better prospect. This isn’t about the most ready player it’s about who will be the best player.
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by Slyde on
Jan 6, 2009 6:27 PM EST
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True.
If “playing with the team in 2008” were the criterion for determining prospect status, then Paul Bako would be high on the list.
BTW, I think Danny Dorn’s age is wrong. It isn’t 20, I think, since he was signed out of college.
Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.
by Paul Householder on
Jan 6, 2009 6:34 PM EST
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Actually, your definition of "best prospect" might be innocuously stated
This isn’t about the most ready player it’s about who will be the best player.
If this survey was set up with that nomenclature provided, perhaps the results would be more in line with your perspective.
I have discovered in 20 years of moving around a ballpark, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. - Bill Veeck
by PeteyHendrix on
Jan 6, 2009 9:46 PM EST
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im glad dickerson won
so we can get him off these lists
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on
Jan 7, 2009 1:14 AM EST
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