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Community Prospect Rankings: #9

Kyle Lotzkar squeaks by at #8.  Venezuelan wunderkind Yorman Rodriguez takes his place on the list.  Despite not having any numbers to go by, he's one of the most lucrative international signings in Reds history and has drawn comparisons to Eric Davis. 

With high upside guys like Mesoraco, Rodriguez, and Duran on the board along with guys that are close to the majors like Dickerson, Roenicke, and Maloney, it'll be interesting what kind of direction this goes in.  Vote now!

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Josh Roenicke, RHRP:

John Sickels rank: 6
Redsminorleagues rank: 14
Age: 26
Draft/Acquisition Details: 10th round (pick 249), Reds, 2006
Last Level Played: MLB

2008 Statistics:
Chattanooga (AA):
22 G, 22 IP, 21 H, 12 BB, 28 SO, 3.27 ERA, 1.50 WHIP
Louisville (AAA): 35 G, 39 IP, 34 H, 14 BB, 43 SO, 2.54 ERA, 1.23 WHIP
Cincinnati (MLB): 5 G, 3 IP, 6 H, 2 BB, 6 SO, 9.00 ERA, 2.67 WHIP

 

Ramon Ramirez, RHSP:

John Sickels rank: 11
Redsminorleagues rank: 17
Age: 26
Draft/Acquisition Details: Signed out of Venezuela
Highest Level Played: MLB

2008 Statistics:
Chattanooga (AA): 11 G, 46.0 IP, 41 H, 15 BB, 52 SO, 4.70 ERA, 1.22 WHIP
Louisville (AAA): 19 G, 99.1 IP, 76 H, 42 BB, 93 SO, 3.08 ERA, 1.19 WHIP
Cincinnati (MLB): 5 G, 27.0 IP, 17 H, 11 BB, 21 SO, 2.67 ERA, 1.04 WHIP

 

 

Zach Stewart, RHRP:

John Sickels rank: 7
Redsminorleagues rank: 8
Age: 22
Draft/Acquisition Details: 3rd round (pick 84), Reds, 2008
Last Level Played: A+ (Sarasota)

2008 Statistics:
Texas (College): 20 G, 3 GS, 47 IP, 48 H, 21 BB, 43 SO, 4.98 ERA, 1.47 WHIP
Dayton (A): 11 G, 16.1 IP, 10 H, 3 BB, 13 SO, 0.55 ERA, 0.80 WHIP
Sarasota (A+): 13 G, 16.2 IP, 16H, 11BB, 23 SO, 1.62 ERA, 1.62 WHIP

 

Carlos Fisher, RHRP:

John Sickels rank: 19
Redsminorleagues rank: 13
Age: 25
Draft/Acquisition Details: 15th round (pick 450), Padres, 2001
Last Level Played: AAA (Louisville)

2008 Statistics:
Chattanooga (AA): 36 G, 50.2 IP, 52 H, 20  BB, 46 SO, 3.73 ERA, 1.42 WHIP
Louisville (AAA): 14 G, 17.1 IP, 14H, 9BB, 21 SO, 1.04 ERA, 1.33 WHIP

 

Matt Maloney, LHSP:

John Sickels rank: 13
Redsminorleagues rank: 29
Age: 24
Draft/Acquisition Details: 3rd round (pick 97), Phillies, 2005.  Acquired in trade for Kyle Lohse.
Last Level Played: AAA (Louisville)

2008 Statistics:
GCL Reds (Rk): 1 G, 5.2 IP, 1 H, 0 BB, 9 SO, 0.00 ERA, 0.18 WHIP
Louisville (AAA): 25 G, 25 GS, 140.1 IP, 143 H, 39 BB, 132 SO, 4.68 ERA, 1.30 WHIP

 

Devin Mesoraco, C:

John Sickels rank: NR
Redsminorleagues rank: 6
Age: 20
Draft/Acquisition Details: Drafted 1st round (pick 15), Reds, 2007
Last Level Played: A (Dayton)

2008 Statistics:
Dayton (A): 80 G, 306 AB, .261/.311/.399 

 

Danny Dorn,OF:

John Sickels rank: 16
Redsminorleagues rank: 9
Age: 24
Draft/Acquisition Details: Drafted 32nd round (pick 954), Reds, 2006
Last Level Played: AA (Chattanooga)

2008 Statistics:
Sarasota (A+): 5 G, 20 AB, .250/.286/.500
Chattanooga (AA): 98 G, 336 AB, .277/.367/.539

 

Juan Duran, OF:

John Sickels rank: 21
Redsminorleagues rank: 11
Age: 17
Draft/Acquisition Details: Signed out of D.R.
Last Level Played: Dominican Summer League

2008 Statistics:
DSL Reds (DSL): 41 G, 135 AB, .215/.340/.319

 

Chris Dickerson, OF:

John Sickels rank: 12
Redsminorleagues rank: 18
Age: 27
Draft/Acquisition Details: 16th round (pick 471), Reds, 2003
Last Level Played: MLB

2008 Statistics:
Louisville (AAA): 97 G, 349 AB, .287/.384/.479
Cincinnati (MLB): 31 G, 102 AB, .304/.413/.608

 

Yorman Rodriguez, OF:

John Sickels rank: 20
Redsminorleagues rank: 16
Age: 16
Draft/Acquisition Details: Signed out of D.R.
Last Level Played: NA

2008 Statistics:
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Poll
Who is the #9 prospect in the Reds system?
Chris Dickerson
63 votes
Danny Dorn
34 votes
Juan Duran
17 votes
Carlos Fisher
2 votes
Matt Maloney
4 votes
Devin Mesoraco
42 votes
Ramon Ramirez
6 votes
Yorman Rodriguez
19 votes
Josh Roenicke
43 votes
Zach Stewart
20 votes

250 votes | Poll has closed

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I voted Mesoraco

It just makes me too sad to think about him being a first round pick to not have him as a top 9 prospect

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Jan 5, 2009 9:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It says a lot about how great our system is

That even our number 9 prospect is still a pretty good one, no matter who gets picked

"You are not my ass." - Reynard

by BK on Jan 5, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

a lot of these guys are so close in my mind

mesoraco should go next though, I think. Zach Stewart’s not a bad choice…

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Jan 5, 2009 9:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dorn

he’s becoming my favorite under-the-radar prospect. from Billings thru Chattanooga over the last 3 years:
~1000 ABs
.297/.387/.528 K-rate 22% BB-rate 13%
he’s OPSed over .900 at every level. he could be the next Adam Dunn, and he’s gonna start the year in Louisville. if he were right-handed, i bet Walt would have a big ol’ rubbery one for him right now.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 5, 2009 9:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i refuse to believe the dorn hype

not because i dont think he’ll be good, but because it helps to keep expectations down for a 32nd-rounder, keep him hungry and sech.

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Jan 5, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think he got hurt his senior year

I can’t find a link right now, but it was something like that.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Jan 6, 2009 10:04 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think I'd call Dickerson a prospect

I think he’s proven himself to an extent.

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jan 5, 2009 11:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i wouldnt call him a prospect

because he’ll be 27 on opening day.

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Jan 5, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

agreed

Lingus and Peppermint Panties can blow me.

M. Ville

by Madville on Jan 5, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think I've voted

for Roenicke 6 times in a row now. Come on JR!

"I'm standing at the plate thinking, Where are my hands? Where's this, where's that? Before I know it, the pitch is there and I'm completely out of rhythm." -
-- Adam Dunn

by Joe Nolan's Glasses on Jan 5, 2009 11:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Same here

I think this is the one where he gets it

"You are not my ass." - Reynard

by BK on Jan 5, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

+1

"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.

by justin007000 on Jan 6, 2009 8:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I didnt know about the top 8

But I’ve been adamant in my support for Dorn as the #9 overall prospect all along. Its a no brainer.

by obc2 on Jan 6, 2009 8:23 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

you should have made your case earlier

maybe i coulda been swayed!

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Jan 6, 2009 8:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

number nine, number nine, number nine

This is right where he belongs, no higher….no lower. Ive never been more certain of anything in my life. (Other than the fact UK was gonna cover the spread this weekend over UL)

by obc2 on Jan 6, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

what was the spread?

for me and jch it was 16.5…

I’ll soon be $20 richer

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Jan 6, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I went with Stewart

I think he’s going to move through the system quickly this year, but I’m also an idiot. This is evidenced by my going high risk/high reward in the bereavement pool with picks like Mary Kate Olsen.

I only avoided a shutout because I saw the Golden Girls while flipping through the channels during the creation of my list.

"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jan 6, 2009 8:59 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

little favor,

don’t watch the inauguration while making your list

by jacob brumfield on Jan 6, 2009 9:24 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I won't.

I’m going to watch all of Kevin Costner’s movies and hope the magic works again.

"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jan 6, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Take that, Jeanne Tripplehorn!

Oh, and the little girl with the map to Dryland tattooed on her back? Yeah, she ended up selling glamour shots to Napoleon Dynamite.

by Brendanukkah on Jan 6, 2009 10:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

are you drinking 2 percent because you think youre fat? Cuz you're not

you could be drinking whole if you wanted to

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Jan 6, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

you know

when i saw commercials about tampons i thought periods were girls asses. In 5th grade I learned in sex ed that they weren’t. I learned something that day.

Danny Dorn is totally number 9. He is a sleeper prospect. Look at his OPS and what not, the guy just mashes. I want him in the outfield at some point next year, I want to see Bruce, Stubbs, Dorn, and Dickerson patrolling the greens of Cincinnati.

"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.

by justin007000 on Jan 6, 2009 12:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

nobody's ever said RR wasn't classy

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 6, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that is the problem with living alone

in years past i would have shared that with my room mate (except when I lived with the autistic kid), and it would be put out there. Now when these thoughts come to me when I’m in my apartment I either have to call somebody (wasting daytime minutes) or put them on the internet.

"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.

by justin007000 on Jan 6, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

whatever

you’ve been saying stuff like that since you joined the site.

I think. Who can really tell what your posts say most of the time anyway?

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 6, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

maybe there is a little madvile in me?

"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.

by justin007000 on Jan 6, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Buy him a drink

and you could have a lotta Madville in you…..hey-o!

Slyde: "You're like the Ike Turner of RR commenters."

by Pops Daniels on Jan 6, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

sit on the wrong toilet seat

and you could have a little jch in you…

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Jan 6, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There's no such thing as a little jch

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Jan 6, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that's not what _______'s ___ said

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Jan 6, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

??

B*tch T*ts?

Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.

by Paul Householder on Jan 6, 2009 6:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is that sitting to pee?

Slyde: "You're like the Ike Turner of RR commenters."

by Pops Daniels on Jan 6, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

because i like girly movies?

i see what you did there

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Jan 6, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nah

I sit to pee all the time out of sheer laziness. Frilly undergarments, on the other hand, make me feel pretty.

Slyde: "You're like the Ike Turner of RR commenters."

by Pops Daniels on Jan 6, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

as they should

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Jan 6, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

pop's

i’m recing that because i was trying to be somebodies straight man.

"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.

by justin007000 on Jan 6, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

fair enough

Slyde: "You're like the Ike Turner of RR commenters."

by Pops Daniels on Jan 6, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

rec'd

for making me laugh

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Jan 6, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

double rec'd

Man, he did it all “their”

by Brian B on Jan 6, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Y'all wish you could be as vague and yet enigmatic as I.

Although I do believe there could be some lost genetic link between Justin and me. Its a string theory kind of thing…

Lingus and Peppermint Panties can blow me.

M. Ville

by Madville on Jan 7, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

man yall love you some chris dickerson

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Jan 6, 2009 2:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

and not a single person has justified that vote yet

I voted for Roenicke. I think he’ll be the closer in 2 years.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 6, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

outright

I hope. Mainly because that means that our closer is really cheap as opposed to what we have now.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 8, 2009 10:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

just waiting to see who I voted for?

:)

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 6, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

sure thing!

plus there was the whole “daedalus incident”

by Daedalus on Jan 6, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

C-Dick sucks!

Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill

by chandrathan on Jan 6, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Flag'd

You dirty monkey.

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Jan 6, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't understand why he's even on the list?

All Mickey Mouse films are founded on the motif of leaving home in order to learn what fear is.

by Man Mountain on Jan 6, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

he was on both Sickels and Doug's lists

so I included him. Honestly, I was surprised that he was on Sickels’ list. I figured he was too old to be considered a prospect anymore.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 6, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

okidoke

All Mickey Mouse films are founded on the motif of leaving home in order to learn what fear is.

by Man Mountain on Jan 6, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Voted for Roenicke

The man love for C Dick is backlash from the Willy T signing

by Dave from Louisville on Jan 6, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think people have been interested in Dickerson since long before Taveras was signed

I think the problem is that people are confusing “playing with the team in 2009” with being a better prospect. This isn’t about the most ready player it’s about who will be the best player.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 6, 2009 6:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

True.

If “playing with the team in 2008” were the criterion for determining prospect status, then Paul Bako would be high on the list.

BTW, I think Danny Dorn’s age is wrong. It isn’t 20, I think, since he was signed out of college.

Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.

by Paul Householder on Jan 6, 2009 6:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, your definition of "best prospect" might be innocuously stated
This isn’t about the most ready player it’s about who will be the best player.

If this survey was set up with that nomenclature provided, perhaps the results would be more in line with your perspective.

I have discovered in 20 years of moving around a ballpark, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. - Bill Veeck

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 6, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

im glad dickerson won

so we can get him off these lists

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Jan 7, 2009 1:14 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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