Rays sign Burrell, Cubs sign Bradley, Reds still working on priority #1
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 5, 2009 2:00 PM EST
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per Rosenthal. the report is for 2 years, $16 mil, which is so far beyond awesome for the Rays that i am beside myself wondering where the hell Walt was on this one. this is exactly, like down to the number, what the Reds needed for LF and it looks like we wont get it. 2 years is perfect, and at 8 mil per Burrell is not quite a steal, but close to it. I hope and pray Walt is on the phone with Burrell's agent right now offering 18 mil. crap.
Update from Slyde: The Cubs have signed Milton Bradley to a 3yr/$30 million deal as well.
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It shows how much the market has dropped
Burrell made 14,250,000 last year. He most likey will make 7 Mil this year and 9 Mil next for the Rays.
This is bad news for the other big sluggers still unsigned out there. Look at Adam Dunn. Dunn made 13,000,000 last year. Right now he might be staring at making just half of that in 2009. If I am him, I do a one-year deal for the highest I can find, and hope the economy makes a Huge Rebound in 2009 and try the whole process over again. Maybe a 2-year deal, but don’t look for any big names to sign for more than two years.
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by MixFMKyle on Jan 5, 2009 2:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
A few things to consider
Seems like this would’ve been a great deal for the Reds, but we might not have been able to get him for that price.
If he cares about competing for the next two years, the Rays probably give him a better chance than the Reds. Also, he went to college and University of Miami. Another thing to consider is that Florida has no state income tax. I’m sure we could’ve had burrell for not much more, but who knows.
Bruce Bonser? Boone Bonser? Boot Bonser? BOOSE BONZER?
by Lakeman on Jan 5, 2009 2:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Truth
Nicely done.
I have discovered in 20 years of moving around a ballpark, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. - Bill Veeck
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 5, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Blech
I definitely would have been a fan of a deal like that for Burrell. If that sets the market, then we should go after Bradley hard. Risky yes, but mitigated by the 2-year deal we’d offer him.
by teb7 on Jan 5, 2009 2:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the cubs are already rumored to have offered Bradley 3 years, I believe.
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
by Slyde on Jan 5, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well don't I look like a horse's patoot.
Good job on the scoop! I am somewhat surprised Bradley got so much more than Burrell given Bradley’s injury/meltdown risk.
Just another typical Reds winter, building sandcastles during high tide.
by teb7 on Jan 5, 2009 6:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If the Reds had signed Burrell
at 3 years, 30 mil, I would have been just fine with that. To think the Rays can get him at 2 years and only 16 mil just makes me sick.
I mean, really, did Burrell’s agent go the Reds and say “Hey we can get 2 years, 16 mil, from the Rays… can you top that?” And did Jocketty say “pass?”
Of course, Burrell may not have wanted to play in Cincy anyway.
You went full retard. No one ever comes back from that. - Sgt. Osiris
by cesarhernandez on Jan 5, 2009 3:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And with Bradley to Cubs looking like a lock
Who do the Reds get? Abreu? Wigginton? Giambi? Dunn?
Ugh.
You went full retard. No one ever comes back from that. - Sgt. Osiris
by cesarhernandez on Jan 5, 2009 3:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think the smart money is on Wiggy
Given that he’ll probably be the cheapest of the lot, and the fact that they hate Edwin Encarnacion, it’s a lock, right?
"You are not my ass." - Reynard
by BK on Jan 5, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know I'm dreaming
but I still think the smartest thing for the Reds to throw some ridiculous money at Manny Ramirez for 1 or 2 years. I know it’ll never happen, though.
You went full retard. No one ever comes back from that. - Sgt. Osiris
by cesarhernandez on Jan 5, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think they hate Edwin
Jocketty supposedly considered him untouchable at the deadline last year.
I think Wigginton is the most likely because he’s the only right-handed bat listed there.
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
by Slyde on Jan 5, 2009 3:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Wiggy gets signed.
At this point, assuming no Beltre trade happens (which is sadly what will happen), I think Wiggy gets signed, and E5 becomes E7.
If I’m the GM now, and the Beltre trade is out of the question, I sign Wiggy, Baldelli, Jerry Hairston, Mark Prior (if dirt cheap) and Sean Casey. Those 5 would probably have the most upside to the 2009 team out of the remaining position players whom we can afford. And juggling lineups there gets us to…what…80 wins?
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by PeteyHendrix on Jan 5, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why Casey?
I mean if they decide to go ahead and move Votto to LF, and use Sean as a stopgap for Yonder, I would be all about it. Do a 1B/3B Platoon between Wigginton, Encarnacion, and Casey (1st Only). Then sign one of Hairston or Baldelli, and you are full
1B – Encarnacion/Wiggington
2B – Phillips
SS – Gonzalez
3B – Encarnacion/Wiggington
LF – Votto
CF Taveras Bruce
RF
C – Hernandez
Bench
C- Hanigan
INF- Keppinger
INF – Casey
OF – Dickerson
OF – Hairston or Baldelli
Of course the above is full of ifs. The biggest if is at Short. Does anyone think the Reds might end up making a run at Orlando Cabrera if this trend of short-term deals at reduced rates continues? Just in case Gonzalez isn’t good to go?
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by MixFMKyle on Jan 5, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the only way they'd go after Cabrera is 2 years or less, $5 million or less
Basically, if he needs to prove something. I don’t see Jocketty spending a lot of money for a safety net.
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
by Slyde on Jan 5, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I'm sure thats right
Slyde, if our best option for LF is going to be signing Hairston, do you think it would make sense to go ahead and move Votto. With whats left, it might be the smarter move, and better use of money.
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by MixFMKyle on Jan 5, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If the long term plan is to move him there, then yes
That’s what this all depends on. If the Reds aren’t planning for any positional conflict between Alonso and Votto, then they are fools. It doesn’t necessarily mean that they have to make the change now, but I’d rather see Votto take his lumps in 2009 and the Reds hit the ground running with Alonso in 2010, than have 2010 be a question mark year with a rookie 1B and a LF who is new to the position.
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
by Slyde on Jan 5, 2009 5:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's how I feel too.
You can sign Wigginton, and put him or Edwin at 1st. You can sign Casey. You could even use Kepp there assuming you are okay at the shortstop position.
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by MixFMKyle on Jan 5, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I not sure it means anything
but Encarnación has been playing first for the Aguilas down here.
I made it to my first game last week and the whole Aguilas team pretty much stunk- Melky, Andruw Jones, Furcal, and EdE too. A whole lot of rust.
I wanted to do an eyewitness report but my pictures turned out really bad and other then a spectacular diving catch into the third base stands by Licey’s Erick Aybar to end the game, the night was not super exciting.
In limited viewing, EdE looks comfortable at first. I saw him make a diving stab off to his right on TV the other night and flip the ball to Cueto who was covering. Turned out to save a run as Cueto gave up a double on a ball that Jones should have caught in center and then a homer a couple of batters later.
According to the Toros’s homepage Volquez had his first good start last night going 6innings and only giving up a run. He struck out 7 and gave up 5 hits. The run that scored was helped by two wild pitches. The aguilas webpage says he was consistently between 95 and 97 and his slider and curve were on (does the wagon really throw both a slider and a curve?)
I believe Cueto is scheduled to start Wednesday at 7:30pm and it might just be possible to watch it on the internet at www.torosdeleste.com .
Tanzen!
by Verka Serduchka on Jan 5, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rust?!
Isn’t winterball about over?
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by BubbaFan on Jan 5, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The "stars" don't show up down here until after Christmas.
Many of that bunch hasn’t played more than 7 games yet and it showed.
The 4 team, round robin tournament goes for a couple more weeks and then the finals start at the end of January.
Tanzen!
by Verka Serduchka on Jan 5, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Yankees
were all excited about how well Melky Cabrera and Robinson Cano were playing in Winterball. Before Christmas. I’m pretty sure Leche has been playing since the beginning of December at least.
But why would Encarnacion be playing 1B? That seems kind of strange to me.
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by BubbaFan on Jan 5, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the manager doesn't like errors?
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Jan 5, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Or do they revisit a trade for Dye?
Maybe something can still be worked out on that front.
You went full retard. No one ever comes back from that. - Sgt. Osiris
by cesarhernandez on Jan 5, 2009 3:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That trade would look stupid
If we could of had Burrell for 2 years (Even if he made 18 instead of 16) We could have had him, and not had to give up Bailey, and he would have been cheaper in 09 than Dye.
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by MixFMKyle on Jan 5, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
284 comments on the story at DRays Bay so far
and no “Can you believe you’re f*cking signing Pat Burrell?” jokes. What a f*cking waste.
"You are not my ass." - Reynard
by BK on Jan 5, 2009 4:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
can someone please go over there and send them the link?
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
by Cy Schourek on Jan 6, 2009 9:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
can somebody send me the link i don't get it
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Jan 6, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ask...
and ye shall recieve
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
by Cy Schourek on Jan 6, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that is like the best thing ever
i should say that to my girlfriend. except substitute Justin for Pat Burrell. Something tells me if I say that to her, I will never be in a situation to say that again.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Jan 6, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
too bad
as long as I’m good for $4.95 a minute I can say whatever I want to my girlfriend
All Mickey Mouse films are founded on the motif of leaving home in order to learn what fear is.
by Man Mountain on Jan 6, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
at first i thought you were madvile
and was so confused.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Jan 6, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“as long as I’m good for $4.95 a minute I can say whatever I want to my your girlfriend”
FTFY.
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on Jan 6, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
see, i was going to post something similar
but I thought we weren’t being mean anymore because someone had an itchy banning finger
All Mickey Mouse films are founded on the motif of leaving home in order to learn what fear is.
by Man Mountain on Jan 6, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
mean is all fair game
just no “Brendan’s mom” jokes. “justin’s girlfriend” jokes are not only condoned, but encouraged.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 6, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if we break up and i am heart broken
can i make an announcement so that anyone who makes a Justin’s girlfriend joke is banned.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Jan 6, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hey jch
the jerk store just called and they’re out of you.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Jan 6, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Number one seller
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on Jan 6, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bradley signed with the Cubs
(via ESPN). 3 years/$30 million
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
by Slyde on Jan 5, 2009 4:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Man, sluggers at bargain prices
GET IN THERE, WALT!!!
by Brendanukkah on Jan 5, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and I have no interest in Andruw Jones anymore
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
by Slyde on Jan 5, 2009 4:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ditto
I have discovered in 20 years of moving around a ballpark, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. - Bill Veeck
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 5, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but I don't think he looks fat
like everyone is saying.
"I'm standing at the plate thinking, Where are my hands? Where's this, where's that? Before I know it, the pitch is there and I'm completely out of rhythm." -
-- Adam Dunn
by Joe Nolan's Glasses on Jan 5, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no really,
it’s only those pants he’s wearing.
by bbjones on Jan 5, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Giambi to A's rumored to be almost done on MLBTraderumors.com
That leaves Dunn and Manny as the big bats left. Wiggington, Abreu, Griffey, and Garrett Anderson on the 2nd tier.
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by MixFMKyle on Jan 5, 2009 4:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Has Abreu fallen off that badly?
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on Jan 5, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Abreu's defense is arguably worse than Dunn's
and offensively his production is a tick below because Dunn has more power. I’d probably put Abreu on tier 1-B.
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
by Slyde on Jan 5, 2009 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think kyle's tiering system is kind to jr.
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on Jan 5, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha
Yeah. well if you go to 2007, I don’t think so. If you want to believe he was really hurt and it really affected his performance in 2008, then I think it’s okay to group him with those guys.
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by MixFMKyle on Jan 5, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
griffey is done
d-u-n-n done
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on Jan 5, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
he still has a good OBP, but it and his SLG has fallen since he has been in NY. Of Course with the pitching in the AL East, it is very possible he would put up much better numbers in the NL Central.
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by MixFMKyle on Jan 5, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe the Cubs went with Bradley over Dunn
Especially for 3 years. As a Reds fan/Cub hater I love it. Between that, the non-protection of Veal, and trade with Florida….the Cubs are looking pretty dumb this off-season.
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 5, 2009 5:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have Bradley than Dunn
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
by Slyde on Jan 5, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Everybody
knows Dunn Hates baseball anyway.
"I'm standing at the plate thinking, Where are my hands? Where's this, where's that? Before I know it, the pitch is there and I'm completely out of rhythm." -
-- Adam Dunn
by Joe Nolan's Glasses on Jan 5, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
But IF Bradley can produce as he did last year for just 2 of the 3 years in that contract, its a bargain. It may not be likely to occur, but if it does It’s a solid signing. Now of course he only played in the field 64 games last year, and in his years on the West Coast he was oft-injured. So that is the onle downside to the deal. And oh yeah the fact that some think he is bat-shit crazy too.
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by MixFMKyle on Jan 5, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not even last year
If he performs to his projections, he’s still better. The only bad thing about Bradley is his health, but honestly I think that’s going to become a problem for Dunn in the next 2 years too (just a hunch). The worst season Chone projects for Bradley over the next 3 is .282/.391/.482. I’d take a chance that he’ll be a little healthier for that kind of production.
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
by Slyde on Jan 5, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dunn has been the most consistent HR hitter in baseball
He stays healthly and goes yard. That’s what you get with Dunn. I’d rather have consistent production with easy going personality, then a crazy guy with an injury history with slightly more upside. It’s a gamble.
A bird in hand is worth two in the bush. Bradley has not proven that he can play a full season in the field.
Bold prediction:
Bradley will not play more than 100 games in the any of the three years in this deal.
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 5, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
that is in bold
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
by Slyde on Jan 5, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i have to rec that
he bolded his bold prediction
funny
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on Jan 5, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's a first!!
A rec from chand, I just saved a screen shot and filed it under “that will never fucking happen again”
The more I think about it I love the Bradley to Cubs deal.
Look at all this money they have knotted up long-term.
Big Z through 2012 @ ~$18 m/y
Soriano through 2014 @ $18m/y
Ramirez through 2010 @ $15.75 m/y
Lee through 2010 @ $13 m/y
Dempster through 2011 @ $8, $12.5, and $13.5
Lilly through 2010 @ $12 m/y
Fukudome through 2011 @ $11.5, $13, $13.5
Bradley through 2011 @ $10 m/y
Lee is the only guy who is probably not going to be overpaid at some point. Bradley may be this year’s Fukudome!!!!
The Soriano and Big Z deals are looking CRAZY!!!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 5, 2009 11:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
unfortunately for the Cubbies
Lee looks like he’s already on his way down the hill. heh.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 5, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And we always talk about the Red's farm coming to bloom in 2010 and on.....
Just when we get financially fit, the Cubbies are going to need a gastric by pass, I love it!!!
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 5, 2009 11:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Green'd for the bold prediction
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on Jan 6, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bradley and Wrigley's brick walls.
Bad combination. It probably won’t matter, though, because either Lou will kill him or he will kill Lou and the Cubs’ $30 million investment will be lost.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jan 5, 2009 5:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"I'd treat you like a man, but you don't wanna be treated like a man."
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
by Slyde on Jan 5, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he probably just won't go into the wall
Don’t forget the injury landmines that are the bullpen mounds.
by ol Pete on Jan 5, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so i got inauguration tickets
but i don’t have any place to say.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Jan 5, 2009 6:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
really
where do you live?
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Jan 5, 2009 7:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the bay
we are talking about Norton’s inauguration right?
by jacob brumfield on Jan 5, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
hillarious
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Jan 5, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how did you get them?
they weren’t supposed to be made available until next week.
by Daedalus on Jan 5, 2009 7:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he knows people
he did get to go to denver ya know
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on Jan 5, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i got to denver through the washington program
my former and now retired adviser got like 8 tickets from Congressman Jordan’s office.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Jan 5, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Better get one of these.....
http://www.neatorama.com/2007/07/02/roadbag-portable-urinal/
Being a part of history is cool and all, but I’ll enjoy my view from the coach.
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 5, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My cousin has had tix since
before Christmas.
"I'm standing at the plate thinking, Where are my hands? Where's this, where's that? Before I know it, the pitch is there and I'm completely out of rhythm." -
-- Adam Dunn
by Joe Nolan's Glasses on Jan 5, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
$400
You can stay at my place. I’ll chip in a ride to the Metro.
by Brendanukkah on Jan 6, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
for an extra $4
Brendan’s mom will give you a ride
by jacob brumfield on Jan 6, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what the hell brumfield!?
what the hell?
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on Jan 6, 2009 9:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Way too cheap, brumfield
For a mother joke and all, you need to multiply by 10.
Of course, Brummy, there’s the remote possibility (I repeat remote) that some of us, unlike you, don’t live at home with our mothers. Stop projecting your basement, Cheetos reality on poor Brendanukkah.
I suppose I need to add that I’m just busting chops here and have no beef either way (except to mutter “what the hell” when I read it and then show the offending comment to my mothe… errrr, friend).
On a serious note, why do the Reds always break my heart? Last year’s Prospectus contained a fair bit about Jocketty and examining how he handled the surplus of OF talent he found when he inherited the Cards. The judgment" pretty average. I can see why. This market was perfect for him to ride in and sign someone at a below market, short-term deal and he gives me Willy Taveras. That’s like paying $4 to have ride someone’s mom. Just poor.
by timb116 on Jan 6, 2009 10:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's a warning Jake
one more Brendan’s mom joke outta you and youre banned!
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 6, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
tough crowd
is it because we all know who really raised Brendan?
by jacob brumfield on Jan 6, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
playing with fire
charlie is a new mod and has his finger on the trigger and it itches.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Jan 6, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh I know why it itches
ask……yep
by jacob brumfield on Jan 6, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
brendan's mom jokes have been retired for 2009
if you’d like to make fun of an individual’s parenting, please mock jch24 for having a crapload of kids.
Thank you,
The Management
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
by Slyde on Jan 6, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and the ruler slaps thy wrist
by jacob brumfield on Jan 6, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
to be fair
it’s a slide ruler with the center part removed so there is less surface area.
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
by Slyde on Jan 6, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I prayed so hard for you.
It saddens and hurts me that the two young boys whom I taught to believe in the Ten Commandments have come back to me as two thieves, with filthy mouths and bad attitudes.
I have discovered in 20 years of moving around a ballpark, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. - Bill Veeck
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 6, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
why the Mandarin characters?
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Jan 6, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So,
you can read that, but not English?
Slyde: "You're like the Ike Turner of RR commenters."
by Pops Daniels on Jan 6, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not Mandarin.
Japanese.
Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.
by Paul Householder on Jan 6, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
slyde, can we still say mean and malicious things about you
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Jan 6, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How can you spell "malicious" and not "stay"?
You’re a mystery, justin007000.
"You are not my ass." - Reynard
by BK on Jan 6, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
what?
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Jan 6, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how many kids does he have?
And has anyone told him what causes that?
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by BubbaFan on Jan 6, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no, we're keeping it a secret
no matter how much he begs and pleads, don’t tell him
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on Jan 6, 2009 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Same as Alan, I do believe
I just catch more hell for it. :)
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on Jan 6, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Alan is dead to me
twice actually.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Jan 6, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i don’t have any place to say.
You’re not the one who is supposed to talk at the inauguration, so maybe you’ll have enough room if you use small words.
I have discovered in 20 years of moving around a ballpark, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. - Bill Veeck
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 6, 2009 12:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember when?
The Reds had Wily Mo Pena, Dunn, Kearns, and Casey for three positions. Remember when there was a surplus of talent there (allegedly). Short of turning Pena into Arroyo, the Reds are left three years later with almost nothing (Daryl Thompson, Micah Owings, Dallas Buck). I feel like Caesar, running around my “palace” and screaming “Wayne Krivsky, give me back my legions!”*
- So, that’s what they meant in the 80’s by a liberal arts education enabling you to anything. I’ve long noted “anything” did not mean earn a living…perhaps they were anticipating the internet and blog posts and obscure historical references lost on others?
If so, it was a still a waste of money.
by timb116 on Jan 6, 2009 10:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well to our credit
Look at what Kearns, Casey, and Pena have done since. Just be glad we got something when we did. (Yeah the Kearns deal sucked and we could have gotten much more at the time but hey it looks like we got the better part now with Bray and Thompson.)
Also it’s obvious we wouldn’t have offered Dunn arbitration so the 2 draft picks wouldn’t have happened. (I mean it is silly looking at the deal Burrell just signed for the Reds to not kick the tires on Dunn. 2 years 20 million is a real possibility and it’d be nice to have 40 HRs back in LF. Then let him walk when Votto is ready to move to LF and Yonder is ready to man 1st.)
Also Buck, Thompson, and Owings all have pretty nice ceilings so it’ll be interesting to see what happens with them.
Kearns, Casey, Pena, Dunn or Bray, Thompson, Buck, Castillo, Arroyo, Manuel, and Owings. Looks like a push to me right now and there is the strong chance that we come out more than on top.
by BigRedMechanic on Jan 6, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with part of this
I never agreed that we had a “surplus of talent” in the outfield. I didn’t think we had too many outfielders when we traded Kearns. I also didn’t think it when we traded Josh Hamilton. These deals were defensible to varying degrees, but here we are 1 year later in Hamilton’s case, 2 years later in Kearn’s case, and he have Noriis Hopper as our starting left fielder. Now Kearns hasn’t set the world on fire since he left, but if we had such a surplus of outfielders how do we have 2 guys for 3 spots now?
On the other hand I agree with BigRedMechanic that we got a decent haul for these guys. I wouldn’t call it “nothing”. The Dunn deal would become a steal if we would just turn around and sign him again. We’d get The Micah Owings Pu Pu Platter, and get to dump a couple million in salary for half a season of Dunn. Sadly this seems very unlikely to me.
Bruce Bonser? Boone Bonser? Boot Bonser? BOOSE BONZER?
by Lakeman on Jan 6, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It would be wonderful
If they would re-sign him, mainly so I could go to GAP everyday to wait to see which of those clowns would jump out of the radio booth first (I’m hoping it would be Marty, because that redneck Brantley is son terrible Marty’s indulgence has to be the ONLY reason he is employed).
Sadly for me and the Reds, the highlight of my Reds fandom since the 2000 trade for Griffey (after all, the 2000 me didn’t know they didn’t have any intention of neglecting pitching for a decade!) was last year when Jeff Brantley was on TV with Marty Junior (how insufferable is Brantley? He makes Thom look reasonable) and Brantley called on EE to bunt with the Reds down by 2 with none out. I just kept getting angrier at Brantley’s stupidity! Bunting with no one out, a power hitter at the plate and the tying run at first!?!!? EE proceeded to look terrible in a bunt attempt and then took another strike.
With two strikes Brantley insisted EE should bunt! I was near apoplectic. Even Thom disagreed and Brantley said EE should not be allowed to swing the bat, because “he is just not clutch.” Leaving aside the obvious fact that there is no such skill as “clutch, " where he get that idea in his two short years? It comes form the North Carolina hick, I’m betting. Anyway, as EE’s walk-off homer landed in left field, I ran around screaming "take that mfer” and my poor wife just shook her head at the silly things men like.
Re-signing Dunn would encourage me to do the same thing the moment it is announced.
by timb116 on Jan 7, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That was the second game of the year
And many Red Reporters were in attendance. And I believe someone here boldly predicted the HR.
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on Jan 7, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nah
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
by Slyde on Jan 7, 2009 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't think so
I never predict anything accurately – mostly because I go with my heart instead of my head!
Reds fan for 40 years!
by gejoe on Jan 7, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sometimes my heart and head work in unison
to make something beautiful…
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Jan 7, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And one of us
was in attendance, only strangely not around to see that home run, although making a home run himself.
Actually I think this might have been my second favorite Reds game that I went to. That was a fun day. There was the dramatic conclusion, bathroomgate, mustard shots and a lot of alcohol.
Number one was Larkin’s only grand slam game against the Mets with the Naked Cowboy taking the field at one point.
Education is what you get from reading the directions. Experience is what you get from not reading them.
by snohio on Jan 8, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that was a fun game and as you alluded to
the reds weren’t the only ones that scored that inning
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on Jan 8, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Truthfully
I think we were all a bit jealous.. Maybe we wanted a little bit of the obc for ourselves..
Education is what you get from reading the directions. Experience is what you get from not reading them.
by snohio on Jan 8, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bradley
Great signing. Lou and Bradley will go at it and the Cubs will implode again. Love it.
by Redsfanx on Jan 6, 2009 12:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I forget
is priority #1 to suck more or less?
Slyde: "You're like the Ike Turner of RR commenters."
by Pops Daniels on Jan 6, 2009 12:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
it is to suck, blow, swallow, and spit simultaneously
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Jan 6, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They should hire a Red Reporter's mother with a history of promiscuity as a special assistant to the GM
"You are not my ass." - Reynard
by BK on Jan 6, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
don't push it, dumbass
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
by Slyde on Jan 6, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, sorry
I didn’t know Reynard’s Ass’s mom jokes were outlawed too. My bad.
"You are not my ass." - Reynard
by BK on Jan 6, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey...
Does retiring Brendan’s Mom’s jokes mean we can un-retire something?
I vote for calling a player b*tch t*ts.
Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.
by Paul Householder on Jan 6, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully there will be precious few instances when we'll have to refer to that player at all
by Brendanukkah on Jan 6, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we could nominate a new player for the nickname!
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on Jan 6, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts exactly.
Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.
by Paul Householder on Jan 6, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Any nominations?
Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.
by Paul Householder on Jan 6, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Willy Taveras
"You are not my ass." - Reynard
by BK on Jan 6, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Weathers-
B*tch T*ts with a side of grits.
Slyde: "You're like the Ike Turner of RR commenters."
by Pops Daniels on Jan 6, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
are we not swearing anymore?
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Jan 6, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
RR bleeps it automatically
You can say tits, and you can say bitch, but it censors b*tch t*ts. Innovation!
"You are not my ass." - Reynard
by BK on Jan 6, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
bitch tits
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Jan 6, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you're an editor
you read the flags
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Jan 6, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
rebel
or, robil as you would have it.
Slyde: "You're like the Ike Turner of RR commenters."
by Pops Daniels on Jan 6, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
robil robil
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
by Slyde on Jan 6, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Yeah
Imagining the hamburglar saying “rebel rebel” just caused me to crack up laughing at work. rec’d for making my coworkers think I’m a deranged psychopath.
"You are not my ass." - Reynard
by BK on Jan 6, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
uh
making my coworkers think I’m a deranged psychopath
why the present tense?
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Jan 6, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
javy's gone too isn't he?
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on Jan 6, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how bout hopper?
5-10 listed as 210 lbs…
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on Jan 6, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is
compressed scrap.
Slyde: "You're like the Ike Turner of RR commenters."
by Pops Daniels on Jan 6, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Or compressed crap
"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."
by jch24 on Jan 6, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That was my first thought
and then I thought, who doesn’t have a nickname? Willy “B*tch T*ts” Taveras, that’s who.
"You are not my ass." - Reynard
by BK on Jan 6, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it does fit nicely as far as sound goes
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on Jan 6, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
this thread is extremely funny
but B*tch T*ts is going to be a b*tch to type during game threads
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on Jan 6, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the other problem is I'll inevitably
refer to the person by his nickname around people who aren’t red reporters.
that will be embarrassing…
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on Jan 6, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the editors should...
Put another button in the interface that automatically types “b*tch t*ts” every time you click on it.
Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.
by Paul Householder on Jan 6, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
concur'd
get on that scrabbles!
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on Jan 6, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i'll run it by IT
and get back to you.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 6, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose...
A little button with a graphical representation wouldn’t be too much to ask?
Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.
by Paul Householder on Jan 6, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The graphic can be Todd Coffey on the Brewers site
On our site… Willy Taveras of course
"You are not my ass." - Reynard
by BK on Jan 6, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but our Willy isn't fat
when did coffey go from “meaty tits” to “bbobdoletch tbobdolets”?
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Jan 6, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Odd.
I think your keyboard may be broken when the asterisk spells out the name of former presidential candidates.
"You are not my ass." - Reynard
by BK on Jan 6, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ehhhh...uh bob dole doesn't have b*tch t*ts
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on Jan 6, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's
handist!
Slyde: "You're like the Ike Turner of RR commenters."
by Pops Daniels on Jan 6, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
do you need an
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Jan 6, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i didn't think i did
as i’m the biggest norm macdonald fan in the world and that was my internet impression of norm doing bob dole
Think of me what you will...I gotta little space to fill
by chandrathan on Jan 6, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I need a translator.
I have discovered in 20 years of moving around a ballpark, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. - Bill Veeck
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 6, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
more or less
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
by Slyde on Jan 6, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
MLB Trade Rumors
says the Royals were interested in Cherry, but are concerned about his health. They’re looking at the ever-scrappy David Eckstein instead.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
by BubbaFan on Jan 6, 2009 5:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Mark Teixeira
was added to the Yankees roster today. Which meant someone had to get the boot. That someone was David Shelley Duncan, son of Dave Duncan, the Cards’ pitching coach.
Shelley Duncan is a right-handed corner OFer/first baseman. This will be his age 29 season. My impression of him is that he could have pretty good power, but his defense is nothing to write home about. Might be worth a look. Though given his family connections, the Cards may grab him.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
by BubbaFan on Jan 6, 2009 5:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Cards may grab him
or Jocko may look out for his old buddy Dave Duncan and give the kid a contract. I don’t think he’s worth a look since he doesn’t play 3B, but C-Dick Run could find worse platoon partners for LF.
I have discovered in 20 years of moving around a ballpark, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. - Bill Veeck
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 6, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Beltre watch
Beltre’s left shoulder and thumb have recovered from season-ending surgeries,
and he is already hitting, fielding and throwing more than a month before spring
training, the Tacoma News-Tribune reports.
ROTOWIRE RECOMMENDS: That’s good news as there was some question whether Beltre
would be ready for spring training. Beltre might play in the WBC, which would
provide a good test for his shoulder and thumb. Beltre, who is in the last
year of his contract, also said he is unhappy the team “went young” in its
offseason rebuilding plans. Make of that what you will.
I REALLY wanna know what the price is, and if Jocko has his eyes open to trading for the best remaining viable lineup acquisition for the 2009 Reds.
I have discovered in 20 years of moving around a ballpark, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. - Bill Veeck
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 6, 2009 6:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Andrew watch
From the Fey:
Is there any interest in outfielder Andruw Jones, who (sic) the Los Angeles Dodgers are expected to release or trade? “It’s something we’ve discussed. We’re trying to get someone down to see him play (in Winter Ball). We’ve got to get some more information. We’ve had no discussions with the Dodgers.”
It seems Jocko is so disinterested in Andrew that he wasn’t even aware that Andrew has quit his Dominican team already. That’s a good thing, cuz the DWL reports on him were not complimentary.
I have discovered in 20 years of moving around a ballpark, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. - Bill Veeck
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 6, 2009 6:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
maybe he hadn't quit yet when he talked to Fay
this report is from yesterday, so the news of Jones quitting may not have gotten out at that point.
We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches
by Slyde on Jan 6, 2009 7:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Edmonds and Jones, I'm calling it now
Reds will sign Edmonds and trade a bag of baseballs to the Dodgers for Andruw Jones. There’s your new LF platoon. And the defense out there will be solid to boot!
Jocketty wants to be reunited with his Jimmy!
You went full retard. No one ever comes back from that. - Sgt. Osiris
by cesarhernandez on Jan 6, 2009 10:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
they'll be togeather again
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.
by justin007000 on Jan 6, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i called edmonds in august
but i said centerfield then. i still expect him to be in a cincy uniform on apr 6.
by Daedalus on Jan 8, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thbe more I think about this
The more I think we end up with Nady or Dye.
by Dave from Louisville on Jan 6, 2009 10:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Swisher seems like a possibility now
So I’m sure we’ll get Nady instead.
I have discovered in 20 years of moving around a ballpark, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. - Bill Veeck
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 8, 2009 12:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is Rotowire's take on The BoSox signing Baldelli:
Baldelli will sign a contract with the Red Sox in the next few days, ESPN and
FoxSports.com report.
ROTOWIRE RECOMMENDS: He’ll serve as a fourth outfielder and could get significant
playing time when J.D. Drew goes down with his usual injury.
That’s a shockingly fair assessment.
I have discovered in 20 years of moving around a ballpark, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. - Bill Veeck
by PeteyHendrix on Jan 8, 2009 1:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yep, they signed him.
Financial terms of the deal for the Rhode Island native and former Tampa Bay first-round pick were not disclosed, although the Boston Herald indicated that it would include a low guaranteed salary with a large number of performance bonuses.
That’s exactly the kind of contract I would have liked to see the Reds offer him. But hey, maybe he just really wanted to play for Boston…
We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.
by Gray on Jan 8, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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