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2009 Reds Community Projections - Infielders

If you've been reading Beyond the Box Score at all lately, you know that Sky Kalkman is working on putting together a projection spreadsheet for every team in the league with the purpose of compiling the data and projecting the final outcome of the season.  Since this is similar to the projection sheet that I've put together, I volunteered to head up the Reds projections.

We've done community projections on here in the past and they always seem to fizzle out before we get through each player, so this time I've decided to sweeten the pot a little.  At the end of the season, I will gather up all of the projections and the person who has the best record at projecting players (minimum 20 different players projected) will win a prize package valued at approximately $150.  Prizes to be determined after I find out if I get any free stuff thrown my way.  If no free stuff, I will dip into the RR slush fund for something real nice, or at the very least a gift card.  Projections will be rated based on how close you come in each category, including plate appearances.  Hopefully this will perk your interest and encourage you to read on and get involved with this project.

 

Star-divide

So, now that I hopefully have you interested, let me tell you what I'm looking for. Lower down the page you will see an input form to choose a player and enter his projected plate appearances, batting average, on base percentage, and slugging percentage.  When it comes to plate appearances, try to think in terms of what will happen, not what should happen.  Even if you think Willy Taveras should be on the bench, realilze that is not a likely scenario at least to start the season.  However, if you believe that Taveras might play himself out of the lineup, then by all means project that.  But please try to be realistc.

Another way to think about it is, if you think there is a 75% chance that Chris Dickerson will reach 500 PA, but there is also a 25% chance that he'll only get 200 PAs, then put 425 PAs as a compromise. This way we can keep a balance between best and worst case scenarios.

When it comes to playing time, try to get your overall plate appearances to around 695 per position (if one spot goes a little high, try to adjust another down a bit).  It doesn't have to be precise, but again, try to be realistic.

As for the other numbers, below I have included the 30th-70th percentile probabilities for each player based on the CHONE projections.  This should give you an idea of what is an optimistic projection for a player vs. what is pessimistic.  You can feel free to use those or go out on your own how you see fit.  It's your opinion, so use it as you please.

I have tried to include all players who will potentially see some playing time in the bigs in 2009.  I did not include anybody who has not played above Single-A yet.  You do not need to project every player, just players that you think will play for the Reds.  For the contest, you will not be penalized for players you do not project, but you do have to project at least 20 players to be entered.  Only your top 20 best projections will be used.

NOTE: Jerry Hairston Jr. will be included with the outfielders.

Player 30th 40th 50th 60th 70th
Ramon Hernandez .250/.311/.405 .257/.321/.416 .266/.332/.435 .274/.341/.460 .282/.351/.480
Ryan Hanigan .242/.321/.317 .253/.332/.345 .262/.345/.362 .271/.358/.388 .281/.371/.402
Wilkin Castillo .235/.271/.321 .242/.279/.336 .249/.288/.354 .258/.300/.374 .267/.311/.394
Joey Votto .269/.345/.455 .278/.357/.478 .285/.365/.494 .293/.376/.517 .300/.383/.535
Brandon Phillips .257/.307/.411 .263/.315/.430 .271/.325/.455 .277/.331/.465 .283/.340/.484
Danny Richar .246/.302/.378 .252/.309/.401 .261/.321/.418 .269/.331/.441 .277/.341/.462
Jeff Keppinger .281/.334/.372 .289/.344/.394 .297/.353/.408 .305/.364/.428 .312/.372/.443
Alex Gonzalez .238/.289/.357 .249/.302/.387 .258/.313/.410 .269/.326/.433 .276/.336/.453
Chris Valaika .231/.269/.337 .242/.281/.358 .251/.293/.376 .263/.309/.410 .275/.323/.436
Paul Janish .219/.284/.322 .224/.292/.329 .233/.305/.350 .241/.314/.372 .250/.328/.392
Edwin Encarnacion .264/.340/.447 .273/.350/.470 .281/.360/.485 .288/.370/.511 .295/.379/.523
Adam Rosales .234/.285/.377 .243/.299/.393 .254/.313/.426 .264/.327/.452 .274/.339/.474

 

Thank you for participating.  Keep an eye out for the other positions in the coming weeks.

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Love it.

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Jan 21, 2009 10:18 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Whippersnapper!

You’re lucky though. People tend to just think my name is a Japanese sex act.

by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's not?

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 21, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nope. It's Thai, actually

What, do they all look the same to you?!

by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't really like asian

food.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 21, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that's just crazy man

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by chandrathan on Jan 21, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

anyone here had more asian than me?

Probably not…

i dont care how hungry ive been i can always throw down applesauce

by obc2 on Jan 21, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

probably not indeed

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by chandrathan on Jan 21, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and slyde doesn't approve

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by chandrathan on Jan 21, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

of eating asian

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by chandrathan on Jan 21, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

me?

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Jan 21, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

stories

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by chandrathan on Jan 21, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

[citation needed]

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Jan 21, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

/resisting the urge to look that up

"You are not my ass." - Reynard

by BK on Jan 21, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

it's not?

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by chandrathan on Jan 21, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In other news

Steve Phillips is replacing Joe Morgan on ESPN’s Sunday night broadcast. As the saying goes, be careful what you wish for.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 21, 2009 10:43 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

That says he's joining them

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by chandrathan on Jan 21, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

d'oh

I misread it! I’m going back to bed.

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by Slyde on Jan 21, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

night night

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by chandrathan on Jan 21, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN

“Where two wrongs still don’t make a right!”™

"You are not my ass." - Reynard

by BK on Jan 21, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Steve Phillips was a former GM!

He was the GM! Of a team! A New York team! He’s an EXPERT!

"You are not my ass." - Reynard

by BK on Jan 21, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i hope his articles aren't brought with him to job interviews

or if he interviews with the reds i hope they are

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by chandrathan on Jan 21, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Until they get McCarver

Their Mount will be incomplete.

My kid likes having the MLB channel on, but if McCarver is announcing, it’s a no-go. He’s perhaps the most insufferable person ever placed before a microphone.

There are only two seasons - winter and Baseball. - Bill Veeck

by PeteyHendrix on Jan 21, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

THIS.

I can deal with Marty and Thom, especially when the team is playing well. I’ve hated McCarver for more than half my life.

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Jan 22, 2009 8:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Also from that article
Broadcast network prime-time shows that don’t attract viewers usually get canceled. But after ESPN averaged only 253,000 viewers for its Thursday night prime-time games last year, it will move MLS games to a variety of time slots this season. That’s charitable, given MLS has had almost no one watching. Says ESPN’s Mike Soltys: “Our commitment to soccer has never been stronger.”

Nice backhanded soccer blast, USA Today. And how do you move MLS games to variety of time slots? Broadcast Saturday night games?

"You are not my ass." - Reynard

by BK on Jan 21, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

do they only play thursday and saturday?

if so get ready for some taped games

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by chandrathan on Jan 21, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes on Sunday too

Because nothing would be better to increase viewership than showing taped games instead of live ones! The people who actually follow MLS would probably already know the result, which would suck. If you already knew the game was going to end in a scoreless draw, would you even watch (unless it was your team)?

I think it’s more likely that they broadcast a Saturday night game instead of Thursday night one.

"You are not my ass." - Reynard

by BK on Jan 21, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

how is the viewership on espn desportes?

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by chandrathan on Jan 21, 2009 11:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN Deportes doesn't carry MLS

Local sports networks, as well as Galavision and Telemundo do.

Also, here’s the new broadcasting plan:

In its place, ESPN2 will carry an MLS game of the week, which will air on four different nights during the season. The weekly matches will occur on Thursdays (10 times), Saturdays (eight times), Wednesdays (six times) and Fridays (three times)."

Those will all be live games.

by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly

I wasn’t even aware ESPN has an MLS game night

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by chandrathan on Jan 21, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know the ins and outs of the deal just yet

But I’m not all that concerned. Having a set broadcast day seemed like a nice idea, but it also locked MLS into some unfavorable national exposure. Midweek games are always more sparsely attended than weekend games, particularly Saturday nights. And they would broadcast from places like New England and New York that are poorly attended anyway, but are played in gigantic football stadiums that have the yard lines showing on the field. Also, Real Salt Lake was playing in a football stadium and now is in the beautiful Rio Tinto stadium.

The flexibility will be helpful, and a team like Seattle that has sold over 16,000 season tickets and has players like Kasey Keller and Freddie Ljungberg should help. Also, Toronto always had a great atmosphere, but now that they have Dwayne DeRosario playing for them? Forget about it.

by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

soc-jack!

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by chandrathan on Jan 21, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Seattle might be the best expansion team in American pro sports history

They’re going to be scary good, with a huge enthusiastic fan base who just lost their NBA team, a few well established players, and a coach who just won it all. It’s like if baseball put an expansion team in San Juan, signed Manny and A-Rod and built a decent team around them, and hired Joe Torre to manage them. Freaking sick.

"You are not my ass." - Reynard

by BK on Jan 21, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

When does the MLS season run, typically?

What sports does it have to match up against for viewers?

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Jan 21, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

March-October

So, baseball mainly.

"You are not my ass." - Reynard

by BK on Jan 21, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, I forgot to count the playoffs

March-November

"You are not my ass." - Reynard

by BK on Jan 21, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's a longer baseball season

It begins in late March, ends in November.

by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Interestingly, soccer in other countries is more of a winter sport

It more closely follows a basketball schedule, going from about September or October through July.

by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you know...

in other countries they call soccer football? How crazy is that?

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 21, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

our female (and non-traditional male) fans should know...

Sounder Freddie Ljungberg was once described by a girl I know as “”http://www.google.com/search?q=freddie+ljungberg&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a" >sexy as sin" and is Beckham without the free kicks or the self-respect.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Jan 21, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The way I read it

Phillips will replace Gammons as roving reporter allowing Gammons to be on Baseball Tonight. This MLBNetwork vs ESPN thing is really testing my faith in competitive markets. One of them has to improve now, right?

by Red Menace on Jan 22, 2009 2:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting theory

But did any of the NFL shows get better when the NFL Network came along?

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Jan 22, 2009 8:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the NFL has a network?

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by chandrathan on Jan 22, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Principled, but futile

I’m boycotting ESPN for anything but actual games. Guess it’s not a boycott, truly, but I just don’t enjoy it anymore. The self-promotion, contrived debates and general hype have just taken all the joy out of it. Quantity does not replace quality. I miss the days when you’d get actual highlights from (nearly) every MLB team during SportsCenter, instead of a beer-sponsored mock diatribe between two loud, but inarticulate has-beens.

Mind you, if not for MLBN, I wouldn’t even attempt it— I love me some Baseball Tonight web gems. I still respect and enjoy Jayson Stark and Tim Kurkjian, but I won’t give them my web traffic or tune into their TV/radio broadcasts— I’ll just get it 2nd hand from the rest of you! Will I cheat— sure, but only with Bill Simmons, who hasn’t totally sold out (yet).

Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you.

by "Red" Moskau on Jan 23, 2009 9:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

AHHH

you deleted that guys plug..he was going to hook us up with cheerleaders!!!

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by chandrathan on Jan 21, 2009 11:18 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

usually

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by chandrathan on Jan 21, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

nukkah brought the hammer down quick

that shit doesn’t fly in his house.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 21, 2009 11:21 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Manchester United is losing their shirt...

sponsor.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jan 21, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nah

They’re just outsourcing it to India.

by Brendanukkah on Jan 21, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Question

Do you want our name and email address in the same box? I plan on winning this thing, so I don’t want to mess it up.

by D-Rock on Jan 21, 2009 11:23 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

nope

Your name goes in the “Your Name” box and your email address goes in the “Email Address” box.

You’re already a step behind D-Rock. :)

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 21, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

honestly, it doesn't matter though

anyway you identify yourself uniquely is fine, but I do need some sort of email address to contact you.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 21, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So, something got screwed up

Do you remember who you projected to go:
120 PA – .255/.333/.422 and
180 PA- .265/.320/.425

For some reason, the names got dropped from those two players.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 21, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm

I’m going to guess Richar and Rosales, in that order, but I’m not sure. I’m glad I’m not an idiot and the email box was actually missing earlier.

by D-Rock on Jan 21, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

it was weird because I could see it, but I guess no one else could. I thought I was protecting your email from other viewers, but it turns out I was protecting it from yourself.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 21, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So I just realized that not everybody could see the email address box

that should be remedied now. please use it in the future. Thanks!

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 21, 2009 12:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Is there a way to put more players in the drop down box?

I couldn’t see Kepp or AGon. Am I missing something?

Youth wins games; veteran presence wins championships!

by ben nevis on Jan 21, 2009 12:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I honestly don't know what happened to them

I will get them added.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 21, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If you refresh the page, you should see everybody from the table above in the list now

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 21, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Slyde, can you check my entries?

I might have accidentally used a different name on a few.

"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jan 21, 2009 4:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

looks okay to me

your email is consistent.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 21, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

thanks.

"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jan 21, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sports Illustrated linked to this thread

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/teams/reds/

Should be the top story.

"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jan 21, 2009 4:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

it's an automated thing

they actually link to a lot of what we put up here. I think they always have a link to our most recent article or something like that.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 21, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I'm an idiot.

"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jan 21, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

nah

I’m just learning about all of this stuff too. I guess SBN has some sort of agreement with them to help promote our site or something.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 21, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

have them link to Madville's page

that oughta do it!!!

i dont care how hungry ive been i can always throw down applesauce

by obc2 on Jan 21, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for that gracious intro obc

If its PR that is needed here at Club Red Reporter…you’ve got the right fellow!!!!

Since most of the rest of the world doesn’t understand sabremetrics, I will can use that to ‘sell’ the mass amount of nerdiness, in-jokes, and humorous/downright sick anecdotes found on the site. SB and SI will think we are so advanced! That along with my important contacts at SI and my exceptional smarmy selling style should pretty well cement the deal (what deal are we talking about anyway ?).
Right gang!

Let me hear you -

 Amen.

Dear God please make tHommy get better…..

by Madville on Jan 21, 2009 7:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

SI's site

I actually know one of the guys who helped develop the software SI uses to pull news onto their site. It’s more or less automated and catches just about all significant web content regarding teams, players, etc. I certainly can’t explain it all but I remember when he was telling me about it I was way impressed. Does that count?

Youth wins games; veteran presence wins championships!

by ben nevis on Jan 22, 2009 10:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I should also say

That when he was developing that software, which SI eventually bought, they were hoping it would turn into a community blog site much like Red Reporter. So when I showed him what happens here he was impressed by the culture that had been built up.

Youth wins games; veteran presence wins championships!

by ben nevis on Jan 22, 2009 10:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hell just froze over

We’re a prototype?

i dont care how hungry ive been i can always throw down applesauce

by obc2 on Jan 24, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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