UK's Jodie Meeks goes for 54 versus Vols

by Blue on Jan 14, 2009 12:57 AM EST Comment 101 comments

The Lousiville game never happened...........

Please, allow me to Cat-jack this weblog.

Kentucky's Jodie Meeks just went 10-15 from 3PT, 16-16 from the line, and scored 54 pts against conference rival Tennessee, scoring 26 in the first half and actually improving to 28 in the second, besting Dan Issel- DAN ISSEL- for most points in a single game in Kentucky history.

I can't believe I just saw that! Now you know why my name is BLUE!

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Joe B. Hall

is reason #1 why I chose to be a Cardinal fan when I moved from Cincy to Louisville @ age 10.

Dr. Dunkenstein is reason #2.

Jim Masters hitting the jumper to send the Dream Game to OT— and a Cardinal romp— was about as sweet as it gets.

And I don’t think Edgar Sosa has hit a three since the KY game— and I don’t even care!

Have to admit, though, I grew to really like the way the ‘Cats played the game post-NCAA probation. Pitino’s Press reminded me of vintage Denny Crum defenses. Tubby kept the basic spirit alive. Good to see Lexington start to come back and help lift the Ohio River valley into basketball pre-eminence. Tobacco Road can eat my shorts!

Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you.

by "Red" Moskau on Jan 14, 2009 2:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

'taps shoulder'

uh over there

by jacob brumfield on Jan 14, 2009 3:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

BLUE!!!!

I’m so glad you came over here and started this thread! I’ve missed our UK conversations this season!

That said, I am absolutely giddy today. 54 Points in a college game! That’s just unbelievable! He was on fire in a way I’ve seldom seen outside of a video game! Plus they went on the road and beat Tennessee by 18!

You know what else was awesome? Watching the game while on the phone with a Louisville fan (JCH). Even he had to admit that it was a blast to watch!

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 8:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Meh

www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5pCfqWHNiE

by obc2 on Jan 14, 2009 9:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

great

he did it against a high school team

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

lol

He played 31 mins that game.

I’ll give you 31 mins in an empty gym to hit 14 3 pointers. And i’ll take the under, kind sir.

by obc2 on Jan 14, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

lets head to the y

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

thats what she said

by obc2 on Jan 14, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Hey, I enjoy great play no matter who it is

I just can’t believe UT didn’t run two guys at him when they realized he wasn’t going to start missing.

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Jan 14, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

no kidding

UT is a horrific defensive team. They cant guard anyone to save their lives. Gonna be a long year in Orangetown.

by obc2 on Jan 14, 2009 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

You would be a Kentucky fan!!!!!!

GO CARDS.

Meeks was pretty awesome, and couldn’t help but root for him………..but the best game in college basketball this year was the UL vs ND game on Monday night.

T Will is the man.

by Dave from Louisville on Jan 14, 2009 6:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

for the love of all things holy

please stop nicknaming the annually overrated players on your annually overrated basketball team.

E-5
T-Will
Edgar Sosa
EC
DC

I guess that just comes natural when your fanbase is made up of these guys:

FIRE DUSTY BAKER

by Blue on Jan 14, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

that's jch holding the crown royal

in case you didn’t know.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 14, 2009 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

'tis true

I’m part of the scissor mafia!

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Jan 14, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

"Damn it, another tie! A'ight, lets do it again. Ready, Set, Throw!"

All Mickey Mouse films are founded on the motif of leaving home in order to learn what fear is.

by Man Mountain on Jan 14, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

most enthusiastically rec'd post in RR history!

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

thank you, thank you

I hope we get a shot at those Cardinal clowns in the NCAA tourny, and we’ll see how they fair against the Big Blue on a neutral floor.

FIRE DUSTY BAKER

by Blue on Jan 14, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i think Kentucky will continue to get better

and by tourney time will be a very tough team

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

You guys might have to beat VMI first !!!!!

by Dave from Louisville on Jan 14, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

or western kentucky

right?

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

with all due respect, every school's fanbase is made up of those guys

All Mickey Mouse films are founded on the motif of leaving home in order to learn what fear is.

by Man Mountain on Jan 14, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I would love to see those guys show up at Grambling

by Brendanukkah on Jan 14, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

there are guys who look exactly like that

who are undergrads at GSU. The guy on the far left looks a lot like their kicker who set the school record for points or something in the late 90s.

All Mickey Mouse films are founded on the motif of leaving home in order to learn what fear is.

by Man Mountain on Jan 14, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

but does every school have those terrible nicknames?

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

What's this year's team nickname at UK, anyway?

The Regrettables?

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Jan 14, 2009 10:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

that doesn't even make any sense

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Here

Now does it make sense?

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Jan 14, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i understand that uk often has team nicknames

but what does the regrettables mean?

They do have 2 potential all americans on their team

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

and a bunch of scrubs after that :)

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Jan 14, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

well liggins was a mcdonalds all american

and darius miller was kentucky’s mr. basketball in a class that included Scotty Hopson.

After that the talent is a little low right now, but the frontcourt next year is going to be the best in the country.

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 15, 2009 8:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

"Conference Champs"

has a nice ring to it.

What is Louisville going to be champion of? Kentucky? I think not:

Morehead > Murray > Western > Louisville > Kentucky

Morehead is the Commonwealth of Kentucky Champion in the transitive property tournament.

FIRE DUSTY BAKER

by Blue on Jan 15, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know dude

those guys look pretty douchey.

FIRE DUSTY BAKER

by Blue on Jan 15, 2009 1:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I didn't know......

Edgar Sosa was a nickname……….YOU ARE A KENTUCKY FAN!!!!!!!!

by Dave from Louisville on Jan 14, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

blue is a respected poster, you are a moron

blue could say that jch isn’t potent, you’d disagree, and i’d still take his word for it

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

you reached for that one, man

you get an E for effort though

"You are not my ass." - Reynard

by BK on Jan 14, 2009 9:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

eh

the main point is still valid

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

What that Edgar Sosa isn't a nickname?!!

I’m glad you agree. Seriously though, Meeks did have one hell of a game last night. Every college basketball fan in the country was cheering for him last night. UT fans don’t count, they are football fans who were orange to basketbalI games. I can’t believe they didn’t even sell out that game last night!!!
I definitely love watching UT (unofficially headband U) lose. I work with a group of the most annoying Tennessee fans in the world, and it’s great to see them humbled.

by Dave from Louisville on Jan 14, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i agree

i also hate those stupid headbands

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

that was a little joke

……….. YOU ARE A DUMBASS!!!!!!!!

FIRE DUSTY BAKER

by Blue on Jan 14, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I am soooooooo sure you don't want this fight

The UK faithful aren’t the brightest bulbs out there. From the L’Ville-UK game on Jan. 4th:

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Jan 14, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

c'mon

that doesn’t hold a candle to the L-Ville posse.

FIRE DUSTY BAKER

by Blue on Jan 14, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

There's ugliness on both sides, I'll be the first to admit

I’ve openly mocked people doing the “bird beak” shit with their arms. But there’s a good sized chuck of UK fans who are clinically insane.

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Jan 15, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

along those lines:

I was getting lunch at this run down grocery store/deli in Lexington on the day that Billy Gillispie was hired. This one old dude was getting very excited talking to the guy behind the counter and said “This is payback for when they took our football coach!”

I had to think for a minute about what he was talking about. I really wanted to say “Hey Buddy, that was fifty years ago. You should let that one go.”

FIRE DUSTY BAKER

by Blue on Jan 15, 2009 1:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If you haven't lived in Lexington

there is no way to understand how ridiculous and great UK’s fanbase is

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 15, 2009 8:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Did you watch the UL vs UK game with a Louisville fan

Of course you didn’t, you know better.

You know UK is down when they are talking trash about beating TENNESSEE. That would be like if UL fans got excited about beating Depaul.

by Dave from Louisville on Jan 14, 2009 6:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

you are a moron

and yes i did converse with a UL fan during the UK/UL game.

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Hey, I know that guy!

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Jan 14, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i think we can both agree that he's a dumbass

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Rec'd!

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Jan 14, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

it goes both ways!

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Just like Brendan's.....

Shit. I got nuthin.

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Jan 14, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Anyone catch ESPN.com's headline about this

“Meeks’ 54 Shall Inherit UK Record”. Groan.

"You are not my ass." - Reynard

by BK on Jan 14, 2009 9:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

thumbs down

that is awful.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 14, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I guess this means

that come Monday, the SEC won’t have anyone ranked in the top 25. Or maybe UK will sneak in…

Nice basketball conference you have there.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Jan 14, 2009 10:16 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

yep only two national titles this decade

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

just one school though bub

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 14, 2009 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

So?

how many does the big ten have? One by one school

Big 12? One by one school

Pac 10? 0 by 0 schools

Big East? 2 by two schools

ACC: 3 by 3 schools.

So I would say that’s a respectable showing by the SEC

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, and they suck this year.

But hey, the top SEC team would have a chance against the worst six or seven of the 12 ACC teams.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Jan 14, 2009 11:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

the sec is definitely down this year

but it won’t be long before they have some top teams again..

watch out for arkansas the next few years, they are about to get scary good again

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 11:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

you know

this is what gets me.

im going to preface here by saying i always enjoy non-Reds sports talk ‘round here, and your CatJacks are no exception. my quibble is of a more general nature and not directed at you, though your comment here is the one getting reply’d. dont take it personal.

but man, i hate stupid SEC fans and their myopic ignorance (did i preface enough for this opening? am i coming out too strong? oh well, no turning back now). the Big 10 has had a few down years in football, and all i hear is jive. im willing to take the jive, because, well, the Big 10 (and OSU in particular, to a certain degree) deserves it. but the Big 10 has sent more teams to BCS bowls than any other conference, even through this downturn. im willing to admit that perhaps some of these bowl births are undeserved, but that’s a grey area. OSU has been to three title games in the last 8 years or so. sure they were humiliated in two of them, but just getting there is still something to be respected.

then the table is turned and the SEC has a down year in basketball, and i get “it wont be long before they have some top teams again”. i wholeheartedly agree with this statement about SEC basketball, but why can you never say the same about Big 10 football? its like you understand that conference strength is cyclical only when it is convenient for you to believe so.

of course, Big 10 fans (and any fan of sports to any degree) can be guilty of this myopic ignorance. its just that it has been a recurring theme among SEC fans of late because of the dominance of LSU and Florida, and to a lesser extent Georgia and Alabama and so on in football. this really isnt important at all, and honestly it doesnt affect me as much as i might be letting on here. but its been irking me for a while. the whole “respect my team” locker room bullshit is totally juvenile, and i really debated posting this at all. oh well. i trust it wont blow up on me. hopefully.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 14, 2009 11:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

football and basketball are hard to compare

because basketball has more games and a tournament. There is a more reasonable understanding of who the best teams actually are.

I’m sure the Big 10 will be good at football again. It’s just that it’s been a long time since anyone but OSU was any good. It will take a total philosophy shift of many of the Big 10 programs to bring them back to prominence.

However, with SEC Basketball, you have the style, coaching, and recruiting in place to see that there are three or four teams that are going to be very very good in the near future.

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Kudos to both of you

I agreed wholeheartedly with everything in Scrabbles’s post, but you gave a nicely reasoned response that didn’t leave me seething. In fact, I thought you made some cromulent points. Well done.

by Brendanukkah on Jan 14, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

agreed

thanks ’tHan. i really wavered on posting it at all in fear that it would start something i didnt want to finish, but my faith in you was well-placed. i really appreciate your cromulence.

but now back to tearing back into you. i disagree that OSU has been the only team that has been any good. Michigan has been a in the top 25 for years and Penn State, Iowa, and Wisconsin have seen years of great success. Purdue and Illinois have done this as well, to a lesser extent. the conference hasnt been as strong top-to-bottom as the SEC, but it aint the Big Sky neither.

i do agree regarding philosophy, to some extent. the recruiting has always been there in the Big 10, with West Penn, Ohio, and Michigan being some of the most successful areas in the country for high school football. but its true that “3 yards in a cloud of dust” is completely antiquated. maybe if they played the BCS title game at the Big House we’d see a different outcome, but if all the top bowls are going to be played on the fast tracks of the South and West Coast then they need to change accordingly.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 14, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Did someone rag on Big Ten football here recently?

I love SEC football and I think at the moment it’s a more exciting brand of football, though perhaps that’s only because I have more of a connection to it.

I’m not sure if the college football landscape is necessarily cyclical, but it is certainly mutable.

I understand the frustration of Big Ten enthusiasts, but I don’t think SEC fans are any more myopic than college football fans in general. The SEC has two things going for it at the moment that make it sure to annoy fans of other teams/conferences:

1) The SEC is really good right now (though I think it’s heading for a trough)
2) College football is by far the most popular sport regionally in the Southeast. It doesn’t really contend with the NFL. Therefore, it takes up more of the focus of the fans of SEC teams.

All Mickey Mouse films are founded on the motif of leaving home in order to learn what fear is.

by Man Mountain on Jan 14, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

not here specifically

as i said, its more a general thing. although i have noticed it here a bit, but certainly not enough to evoke a reaction as scathing as mine. im reacting to the more general tone of the public discourse at large. punching the shadows.

and i pretty much agree on all points. as i said, “Big 10 fans (and any fan of sports to any degree) can be guilty of this myopic ignorance.” but as you point out, the SEC is really good now, and so all the “Scoreboard” chest-thumping is coming from that corner. i guess im frustrated at a certain sense of invincibility exhibited by so many SEC fans. i get the sense that some think they are the best, always have been, always will be. it’s probably a straw man, but it’s the sense i get nonetheless.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 14, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

College Football is 99% recruiting

the teams that have the most talent win consistently. The Big Ten has a considerable recruiting problem in terms of demography and geography. The weather is a big disadvantage. Not necessarily because the weather is really that terrible, but because recruiters at southern schools play it up to recruits.

Players in the south can play football outdoors 12 months of the year and they also tend to stay close to home. If they go a long way to play football; it’s more than likely to a similarly temperate place.

All Mickey Mouse films are founded on the motif of leaving home in order to learn what fear is.

by Man Mountain on Jan 14, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

But aren't you in NC right now?

2) College football is by far the most popular sport regionally in the Southeast. It doesn’t really contend with the NFL. Therefore, it takes up more of the focus of the fans of SEC teams.

I guess if by Southeast you mean, some region excluding NC, sure. But, uhhh, around here, ACC basketball is everything, and football is something of an afterthought.

Only a few times in my life has the SEC been able to contend with the ACC in basketball.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Jan 14, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Even including North Carolina and Kentucky

I would bet as a region the Southeast skews widely to college football. And college football and college basketball don’t really compete for attention.

Obviously, college basketball is tops in pockets, but even in North Carolina you’ll hear as much talk about SEC football (USC in the south of the state and Tennessee in the mountains).

All Mickey Mouse films are founded on the motif of leaving home in order to learn what fear is.

by Man Mountain on Jan 14, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

True, but I think it's safe to say

that basketball is more popular than football in NC. Certainly in the region from just beyond Winston all the way to past Raleigh, basketball is big and football is an afterthought.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Jan 14, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Only a few times in my life has the SEC been able to contend with the ACC in basketball.

What?

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Since I'm avoiding work, but still kind of lazy...

I totaled up Final Four teams from each league every year since my birth. The second column is the number of ACC FF teams; the third is SEC teams. I counted current teams here, though that only affects Arkansas in the SEC (they made it in 1990, before joining the SEC in 1991).

2008 1 0
2007 0 1
2006 0 2
2005 1 0
2004 2 0
2003 0 0
2002 1 0
2001 2 0
2000 1 1
1999 1 0
1998 1 1
1997 1 1
1996 0 2
1995 1 1
1994 1 2
1993 1 1
1992 1 0
1991 2 0
1990 2 1
1989 1 0
1988 1 0
1987 0 0
1986 1 1
1985 0 0
1984 1 1
1983 1 1
1982 1 0

I overstated a bit, but my point remains. While the SEC has usually—though not always by any means—been able to compete with the ACC, the ACC has consistently placed more teams in the Final Four, which I think is indicative of the significantly higher quality of its teams over the years. The SEC placed more teams in the Final Four in only 4 of the 27 years, while the ACC had more in 12 of the 27 years. Sure, this is an imperfect measure, but I suspect that looking at other actual results would give a similar impression.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Jan 14, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

that's still kinda skewed

The ACC has had two consistent top teams in Carolina and Duke

In that period the SEC has only had Kentucky in that position. Arkansas and Florida have flirted with greatness but haven’t reached a consistent level.

All that shows is that the ACC has Two Kentuckys

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

that's a lot of inbreeding

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 14, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Well, okay.

It’s skewed because the ACC has better teams? Uhhh, sure.

In that time, the ACC had six teams make it to the final four: UNC, Duke, Maryland, Georgia Tech, Virginia, NC State. Virginia and NC State only made it once, while the other four went at least twice. The SEC also had six teams make it: Kentucky, LSU, Florida, Arkansas, Georgia, Miss. St.; Georgia and MSU only made it once, and Arkansas has only made it once since joining the SEC. Of course, the SEC had ten teams until 1991, then 12 teams, while the ACC only had 8 until 1991, then 9 until 2004-2005, when it expanded to 12. Which makes the point that the ACC was a much better basketball conference before it expanded beyond 8 teams…

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Jan 14, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Since I don't want to look up a lot of stuff, just to say that the SEC and ACC are close in terms of basketball quality

I’m going to pick out something I know is wrong and run with it.

Arkansas was in the final four in 1994 and 1995.

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yep, you're right.

I stand corrected on that. Everything else I said is correct, though. :-)

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Jan 14, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

No because you said

that the SEC can’t often contend with the ACC in basketball, which you’ve shown to be incorrect.

Even if I concede that the ACC has been a better conference for that period of time, it is very clear that they have been close to each other in terms of quality.

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

They both suck compared to the Big East

So there. :)

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Jan 14, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I was having this discussion about the Big East the other night...

and the Big East this year is basically the ACC with the top teams not quite as good, a couple of middle teams slightly better and three crappy teams tacked on at the bottom.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Jan 14, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree the bottom of the conference is pretty bad

But nine ranked teams speaks for itself.

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Jan 14, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

several of those ranked teams aren't all that great

they don’t look like top 25 material to me. it must be a down year.

I thought Louisville played way over their heads against Kentucky. Otherwise they’ve not looked good to me. I thought the same thing about Villanova and Notre Dame. I realize that Louisville defeated both of those teams within the last week, but I can assure you that I thought those teams looked pretty poor to begin with.

FIRE DUSTY BAKER

by Blue on Jan 15, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

A biased view to be sure

Louisville’s strength is simple and it showed against ND – depth. ND ran out of gas, plain and simple.

Louisville also showcased their greatest flaw in that game – their inability to put an opponent away. They should have beaten both UK and ND by 15+ points but couldn’t stomp them when they had them down. It’s easily my biggest worry with this year’s team.

UK should be ranked this week and if the kids mature they might even make the sweet sixteen, which would be good for them this year.

Louisville didn’t play over their heads against UK. Both teams played great basketball, and it was a great game. But make no mistake, Louisville is easily the better team. I have yet to see them play well for more than about 5-6 minutes at a time. That also scares the hell out of me.

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Jan 15, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I just disagree

they shot 55% from 3 PT comared to 30-35% the rest of the season, and has a similar ridiculous disparity with free throws. I realize they had a few open shots, but not that many.

Given that, plus the fact that they needed a buzzer beater to win at Freedom Hall, I don’t think its clear that Louisville is “easily” the better team.

I think their greatest flaw is that they don’t play as a team. It seems like a bunch of guys trying to go one-on-one. That’s been their flaw since they last went to the Final Four.

FIRE DUSTY BAKER

by Blue on Jan 15, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Mistakes lead to the close game

You are acting like it was a close game, as I recall we just screwed up the last 30 seconds.

by Dave from Louisville on Jan 15, 2009 7:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

tie game with 8 seconds to go

that seems pretty close to me

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 15, 2009 9:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

They were up 11 with 8:00 or so to go

And up 6 with 30 seconds to go, with the ball. Earl Clark failed epically at the end, the game never should have come down to Good Edgar saving the day.

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Jan 15, 2009 9:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm sorry

i didn’t realize that scoring only counted in certain parts of the game.

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 15, 2009 9:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Clearly you weren't paying attention to all the Dunn criticism going on around here

(For Reynard, substitute “Dunn” with “A-Rod”)

by Brendanukkah on Jan 15, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

your retarded

If Louisville had any kind of killer instinct they would have put UK away at the 8:00 mark. Instead they let them hang around and nearly paid the price.

Also, tell me how many situations where a team has come back from six down when the other team has the ball. Not too damned many, I’m willing to guess.

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Jan 15, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

so what you are saying is

louisville isn’t that good. the fact is kentucky was tied with 8 seconds to go. it doesn’t matter how it happened, it happened.

if louisville was that much better, they would have uk away

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 15, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Nope

As I stated here, L’Ville’s problem is that they don’t seem willing to put teams away when they have the chance. Doesn’t mean they’re not a good team. So, in conclusion…..YOUR FACE.

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Jan 15, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

in conclusion you don't make sense

they aren’t willing to put teams away? how generous of them.

If they can’t play like a good team for more than a couple of stretches per game, then maybe they aren’t that good yet. I agree that if they can find some consistency they are a top three team in the country, but you shouldn’t dismiss UK’s performance at Freedom Hall.

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 15, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I will say

this UL team is extremely talented, they just play really really dumb sometimes.

It took epic stupidity to make that game close, foul on the 3 pointer, and 3 turnovers in the final 30 seconds.

It’s not like collapsed to UK’s epic defense, we just kept fiddle fucking around and fubbled away our lead.

by Dave from Louisville on Jan 15, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I'll grant that they were close in the mid 90s

But since Kentucky’s last FF in 1998, there have been a grand total of four SEC FF appearances. In that time, three different ACC teams have won national championships, another has made it to the national championship game, and ACC teams have made 9 FF appearances.

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Jan 14, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

fun with numbers

Fifty percent of the SEC’s final four teams won the title. only 33% of ACC teams did.

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Not a very significant difference, I would say...

But I’m glad you had fun with those numbers! ;-)

We want to build long period of time. I didn’t come here for the shot run.

by Gray on Jan 14, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Well, since the subject of college basketball came up...

I’m taking a basketball course this semester to fulfill my gym requirement, and my instructor is Melvin Levett.

Yes, this Melvin Levett. I’m pretty damn excited.

by Geki on Jan 14, 2009 2:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Hey Bobby Brannen

How’s my ass taste?

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 14, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

So UK still has a basketball team after Tubby?

Good news.

Mads, he is a crazy old man. Plus we have kinda had the same sabrametric evolution togeather.

Justin

by Madville on Jan 14, 2009 9:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I don't really know where to join in the discussion about conferences

I don’t really think of the SEC as being a top tier basketball conference. That is the ACC and the Big East. But, the SEC is still generally pretty solid. A few years it will be great, and few below average, but usually a tier below the ACC and Big East.

I think most of the Big Ten criticism in football has to do with Ohio St. winning the conference and being blown out in consecutive championship games against SEC opponents. This year didn’t help, with Penn St.’s performance as conference champion.

FIRE DUSTY BAKER

by Blue on Jan 15, 2009 12:06 AM EST reply actions 0 recs