Community Prospect Rankings: #11

by BK on Jan 12, 2009 9:00 PM EST in Community Prospect Rankings Comment 41 comments

Josh Roenicke rounds out the Reds top 10 prospects. There are enough guys on still on the poll that I don't think we need to add anyone, but if there's someone you think we're leaving off, say so in the comments.

Ramon Ramirez, RHSP:

John Sickels rank: 11
Redsminorleagues rank: 17
Age: 26
Draft/Acquisition Details: Signed out of Venezuela
Highest Level Played: MLB

2008 Statistics:
Chattanooga (AA): 11 G, 46.0 IP, 41 H, 15 BB, 52 SO, 4.70 ERA, 1.22 WHIP
Louisville (AAA): 19 G, 99.1 IP, 76 H, 42 BB, 93 SO, 3.08 ERA, 1.19 WHIP
Cincinnati (MLB): 5 G, 27.0 IP, 17 H, 11 BB, 21 SO, 2.67 ERA, 1.04 WHIP

Zach Stewart, RHRP:

John Sickels rank: 7
Redsminorleagues rank: 8
Age: 22
Draft/Acquisition Details: 3rd round (pick 84), Reds, 2008
Last Level Played: A+ (Sarasota)

2008 Statistics:
Texas (College): 20 G, 3 GS, 47 IP, 48 H, 21 BB, 43 SO, 4.98 ERA, 1.47 WHIP
Dayton (A): 11 G, 16.1 IP, 10 H, 3 BB, 13 SO, 0.55 ERA, 0.80 WHIP
Sarasota (A+): 13 G, 16.2 IP, 16H, 11BB, 23 SO, 1.62 ERA, 1.62 WHIP

Carlos Fisher, RHRP:

John Sickels rank: 19
Redsminorleagues rank: 13
Age: 25
Draft/Acquisition Details: 15th round (pick 450), Padres, 2001
Last Level Played: AAA (Louisville)

2008 Statistics:
Chattanooga (AA): 36 G, 50.2 IP, 52 H, 20 BB, 46 SO, 3.73 ERA, 1.42 WHIP
Louisville (AAA): 14 G, 17.1 IP, 14H, 9BB, 21 SO, 1.04 ERA, 1.33 WHIP

Matt Maloney, LHSP:

John Sickels rank: 13
Redsminorleagues rank: 29
Age: 24
Draft/Acquisition Details: 3rd round (pick 97), Phillies, 2005. Acquired in trade for Kyle Lohse.
Last Level Played: AAA (Louisville)

2008 Statistics:
GCL Reds (Rk): 1 G, 5.2 IP, 1 H, 0 BB, 9 SO, 0.00 ERA, 0.18 WHIP
Louisville (AAA): 25 G, 25 GS, 140.1 IP, 143 H, 39 BB, 132 SO, 4.68 ERA, 1.30 WHIP

Devin Mesoraco, C:

John Sickels rank: NR
Redsminorleagues rank: 6
Age: 20
Draft/Acquisition Details: Drafted 1st round (pick 15), Reds, 2007
Last Level Played: A (Dayton)

2008 Statistics:
Dayton (A): 80 G, 306 AB, .261/.311/.399

Danny Dorn, OF:

John Sickels rank: 16
Redsminorleagues rank: 9
Age: 24
Draft/Acquisition Details: Drafted 32nd round (pick 954), Reds, 2006
Last Level Played: AA (Chattanooga)

2008 Statistics:
Sarasota (A+): 5 G, 20 AB, .250/.286/.500
Chattanooga (AA): 98 G, 336 AB, .277/.367/.539

Juan Duran, OF:

John Sickels rank: 21
Redsminorleagues rank: 11
Age: 17
Draft/Acquisition Details: Signed out of D.R.
Last Level Played: Dominican Summer League

2008 Statistics:

DSL Reds (DSL): 41 G, 135 AB, .215/.340/.319

Yorman Rodriguez, OF:

John Sickels rank: 20
Redsminorleagues rank: 16
Age: 16
Draft/Acquisition Details: Signed out of D.R.
Last Level Played: NA

2008 Statistics:
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Poll

Who is the #11 prospect for the Reds?

Danny Dorn

45 votes

Juan Duran

26 votes

Carlos Fisher

0 votes

Matt Maloney

10 votes

Devin Mesoraco

54 votes

Ramon Ramirez

23 votes

Yorman Rodriguez

13 votes

Zach Stewart

20 votes

191 votes | Poll has closed

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I voted for Mesoraco again

he’s gotta win one of these sometime…

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 12, 2009 9:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

unless he's doomed to repeat the same day

by ken on Jan 12, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs

nice

I wonder how many people actually got this.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 13, 2009 5:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 13, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

don't sass off to me, boy

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 13, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

hush it, woman!

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 13, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

My pick was Dorn

but can Ram-Ram get some Jose Acevedo/Luke Hudson/Josh Hall love? Can we call it the Bowden Award?

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Jan 12, 2009 9:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Dooooooooooooooooooooorn

if i had a fog horn, it would sound like Dooooooorn.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jan 12, 2009 9:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Dorn.

Mezzy gets #11 for me.

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jan 12, 2009 9:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

crofler, get ready to feel old

two guys on this list are younger than you.

by jacob brumfield on Jan 12, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, it's insane. They are also like twice my size...

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jan 13, 2009 8:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

that's what she said...

"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.

by justin007000 on Jan 13, 2009 8:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

just wait until Playmates are younger than you

by Red Menace on Jan 14, 2009 1:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

that is starting to happen to me

i even have a few gray hairs in my beard.

"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.

by justin007000 on Jan 14, 2009 9:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I know it sounds awful

But I’m so happy to be blessed with good genes, wherever the hell I managed to get them. I probably won’t go bald and at 32 have yet to see even an inkling of gray. I’ll take it…..

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Jan 14, 2009 9:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i wish my hair would turn gray

Also, I'm given to understand that your mother is overweight.

by chandrathan on Jan 14, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Dorn

I don’t feel like writing my reasoning again. I feel like anyone who doesn’t vote dorn should be banned, kinda like anyone who didn’t vote Castro or Saddam.

"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.

by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Dorn again

by obc2 on Jan 12, 2009 9:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

you crazy

religious fanatic.

"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions!"- Dr. Stephen T. Colbert DFA.

by justin007000 on Jan 12, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Mesoraco in a death struggle with Danny Dorn now

I realize he has a cool name and has outperformed expectations in the minors this far, but really, can we please acknowledge that one of these guys is a 20-year-old first-rounder who has a ton of upside at a very difficult position?

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Jan 12, 2009 10:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I know he's been a bit old for his level and such

and I know he can’t hit lefties, but here are Dorn’s 150 game averages in the minors:

 AB   R    H  2B  3B  HR  RBI  BB   SO    BA   OBP   SLG   OPS

528  98  157  36   3  27  101  67  117  .297  .388  .530  .918

There is only so long that a guy like me can ignore that.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 13, 2009 8:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

what does that translate to major league platton #'s

by SadbutTrue on Jan 14, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

platoon too

by SadbutTrue on Jan 14, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Minorleaguesplits.com

puts him at .233/.320/.419 vs RHP in the minor league equivalency and .174/.259/.268 vs LHP. More than anything, I think that is because he hasn’t played above AA ball. If he puts up similar numbers in AAA, then I think you’ll see his MLEs jump dramatically. The problem is that, in general, the move from AA to MLB is a huge step. Most players need that intermediary step to succeed, but some can get away without it.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 14, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not saying Mesoraco isn't that guy

but has he shown anything other than potential at this point? In other words, other than being a first round pick, has he earned a spot on this list? Posting a .710 OPS in A ball isn’t really inspiring confidence.

"You are not my ass." - Reynard

by BK on Jan 13, 2009 9:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

My vote for Mesoraco is based entirely on his position and his potential

Catching prospects take time to develop. The Reds knew Mesoraco was going to be a project when they drafted him. One below average year doesn’t sour me on him too much.

I like Dorn a lot too. Either player would be rated too low at the 11 spot.

by Snake the Jake on Jan 13, 2009 9:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Meh

Until he proves otherwise I’m afraid he’s suffering from Dane Sardinha-itis.

by obc2 on Jan 13, 2009 10:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Sardinha

He was drafted out of college and never exceeded an OPS of 700 in the minors. Mesoraco did that last year as a 20-year-old. Granted, a 700 OPS in the minors isn’t much of an achievment but I think Mesoraco is a better player now than Sardinha ever was.

by Snake the Jake on Jan 13, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Mesoraco

then Dorn, Stewart, Rodriguez, and Duran.

by Snake the Jake on Jan 13, 2009 8:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

yorman luv ty

by SadbutTrue on Jan 14, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Stewart.

Closer potential. At least late-inning flame thrower type.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Jan 13, 2009 3:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

movement on FB = unfair

link

by sharks on Jan 14, 2009 5:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yikes, do they use wiffle balls in the big 12?

I also like how MLB.com’s video content uses the same backround metal music as youtube fanboy clips.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Jan 14, 2009 8:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I hit in the batting cages at GABP last weekend

on the machine the pros use, and while it didn’t have that much movement, the way his ball moves reminds me of that, only worse. Suffice to say, I didn’t get a lot of solid hits – and it was only throwing 70 MPH.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 14, 2009 9:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Don't worry

That’s about the speed you’ll see there I would imagine. Remember, most people don’t throw over 70 or so, no matter what they may believe.

"I AM ARABIC FOR SUGAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!" -- by sukr on Jan 12, 2009 4:55 PM EST

by jch24 on Jan 14, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

that was the faster cage…some of the vets from camp said the speed is more like the slower cage, which was at 65 MPH. I sucked there too, but then I was all out of whack that day. It was the first time I had hit a baseball in front of other people since I was a kid. So, I think I was a little self-concious. I went to Sycamore High the next day and hit in their cage with my neighbor. Within 5 swings he pointed out that I was dropping my hands, which is why I was getting my ass kicked on the high pitches. Once I fixed that I started making some solid contact. I’ve still got a long way to go, but I have a better idea of what I’m doing now.

We’’re in process of trying to a guy with a trade record of working with pitches

by Slyde on Jan 14, 2009 10:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs