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Pittsburgh Pirates @ Cincinnati Reds


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Pittsburgh Pirates
@ Cincinnati Reds

Tuesday, Sep 2, 2008, 7:10 PM EDT
Great American Ball Park

Ian Snell vs Aaron Harang

Clear. Winds blowing out to left field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 85.

 

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W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2008 - Ian Snell 5-10 5.77 1.85 110 78

W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2008 - Aaron Harang 4-14 5.27 1.45 128 41

A matchup of two very disappointing pitchers.  The Pirates had hoped that Snell would perform like an ace this season, much like the Reds expected from Harang.  Despite Harang's consecutive good starts, I'd still like to see him shut down for a month, but I'm overly cautious when the season doesn't matter any more.

Then again, the Reds STILL haven't been eliminated from the division.  If they keep winning and the Cubs keep losing for the rest of the season, who knows, right?  Stranger things have never happened.

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The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 2, 2008 5:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stranger things never happened, huh?

Then how do you explain that every time I type a zinger in a game thread it spontaneously turns to gold?

Count it.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 2, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if there was ever a game worthy of a good game thread, this is it

if we get to 250 comments, will that be more than people at the game?

Flamenco strikes back!! Return of Don!

by chandrathan on Sep 2, 2008 5:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Most likely

Will there be more people attending the Cincinnati-Pittsburgh game tomorrow night, or the US Open Cup Final between DC United and the Charleston Battery? I can tell you which one I’m going to.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 2, 2008 5:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It varies

DC will typically draw around 20,000 for a Saturday game. Some teams will have attendance down around 10,000 but the average yearly attendance works out to probably between 17,000-19,000 a game.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 2, 2008 5:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how many red blooded Americans go to watch soccer

and i don’t count those latte drinking, new york times readin commie bitches.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 2, 2008 5:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

New York gets really bad attendance

But they’re finally getting their own stadium, so they don’t have to play in cavernous Giants Stadium anymore. United still plays in RFK, and will for the foreseeable future, since Nationals Park caused the DC Council to sour on building stadiums. But even though it’s big, United often sells out the lower bowl, and visiting fans will often sit in the top bowl behind the north goal. Lately, a pretty big contingent of the Sons of Ben – fans of the to-be-formed Philadelphia MLS franchise – have been coming to games.

The great part about going to see games at RFK is that the seats for the supporters sections aren’t fully secured (thanks, dual-purpose stadiums!), so they shake and bounce like crazy. It’s amazing.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 2, 2008 5:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

im looking for tickets

for the Crew game against the Galaxy on Oct 4 and ticketmaster is sold out. at least, i think it is. i dont know. but Crew Stadium is a damn nice place to see some sports.

Dusty Baker is dumb.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 2, 2008 5:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have a soft spot for Crew Stadium

Since it was the first soccer specific stadium ever built in America. I’ve seen some Crew games there, the US Men’s National Team beat Mexico 2-0 in a World Cup qualifier, and some Women’s World Cup games. It’s definitely fun.

The Galaxy game will be tough to get tickets to, cuz that’s the Traveling Beckham show. Never mind the fact that the Crew have the best record in MLS this season…

by Brendanukkah on Sep 2, 2008 7:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i am kind of against shutting Harang down for the season

mostly because I feel that if there is somethign wrong with his tendon the damage has already has been done. We might as well see if his arm is sound, if it is he will be fine, if it isn’t well, he cna get the surgery done now, and will have more value for 2010, then if nothign happens until next Spring.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 2, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

harang

im ok with him finishing out the year, he’s got plenty of time to rest in the offseason. fogg however, has to go for either thompson or ramirez. its been fun foggy but its long relief time.

by shark8 on Sep 2, 2008 6:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In honor of Crolfer's return from Texas

I submit the following:

maybe I should be submitting this:

Someone said he was doing ‘missionary’ work somewhere….Texas or Alaska

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Sep 2, 2008 6:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what the hell is that 1st picture...???

it looks like a plane wing or a burning kite. is it a raft?

by shark8 on Sep 2, 2008 6:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Obviously your new around these parts....

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Sep 2, 2008 6:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're not the plumber.

I didn’t call for a plumber…

Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.

by Paul Householder on Sep 2, 2008 6:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

RIP Jerry Reed

eastbound and down for the last time.

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
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by Man Mountain on Sep 2, 2008 6:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Amos Moses was a man! The man could play the guitar pretty good too

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Sep 2, 2008 6:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lineup

lifted from gameday:

Dickerson LF
Kepp SS
BP 2B
Votto 1B
EdE 3B
Bruce RF
Hanigan C
Patterson CF
Harang P

Dusty Baker is dumb.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 2, 2008 6:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why is C-Pat playing?

It should certainly be Wilkin Castillo in LF, Dickerson in CF. No excuse not to play Wilkin over C-Pat. Dusty will give a lefty-righty matchup excuse, forgetting that his favorite new “tool” is a switch-hitter.

I get Dusty trying to defend his players – good managers do that. But there’s no explaining this contradictory action of playing a veteran who might be the worst player in the game INSTEAD of playing qualified youngsters. What’s more, we DESPERATELY need to know if Dickerson is “for real” and can play CF in the bigs. Not knowing this will CRIPPLE us in the off-season player personnel search.

If Jerry Narron would have dropped dead at the right time, Piniella would be our current manager. Unfortunately, Jerry’s wife always reminds him to wear a jacket so he “won’t catch cold”.

Thanks for nothing, Mrs. Jerry.

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 2, 2008 7:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Defending his players

And yet, he’ll rarely come out and defend them to an umpire during the course of a game. And he tells the press they have injuries that they themselves are unaware of. Dusty’s a peculiar cat.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 2, 2008 7:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seriously, Patterson can't play left field?

There’s no reason he should figure into our future, whereas Dickerson at least has a chance to. He’s been pretty decent in his time up here, and I’d like to see him as a bench player next season. But I’d really like to see what he’s able to do in centerfield. So how ’bout we play him there, Dusty, instead of CoPat?

by Brendanukkah on Sep 2, 2008 7:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CC Sabathia: Hit or error?

www.crosleyfieldterrace.wordpress.com

by xjjeep90 on Sep 2, 2008 6:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

meh

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Sep 2, 2008 6:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There is nobody there.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 2, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You mean game thread, or stadium?

There’s a guy named Nyjer at the stadium. He just grounded out to second.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 2, 2008 7:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There are more people here than there are there

It looks depressing

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 2, 2008 7:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thom is already talking football

in the top of the first

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by xjjeep90 on Sep 2, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's the best in the biz when it comes to working with young base stealers

that’s the kind of stuff that you don’t see show up in the box score if you don’t read them.

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
Details at Sinful Savage Tigers

by Man Mountain on Sep 2, 2008 7:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh, and welcome aboard

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
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by Man Mountain on Sep 2, 2008 8:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

QUICK!!!!

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
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by Man Mountain on Sep 2, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh man,

my computer doesn’t even think the inning has started yet

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Sep 2, 2008 7:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yessir

And Keppinger flew out on the first pitch of his. What can we learn from this?

by Brendanukkah on Sep 2, 2008 7:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In Kep's defense,

There’s no need for him to be patient once Dickerson got Ian to throw 10 pitches and he wasn’t wild. If we were between innings after our starter had taken the hill…perhaps a different story.

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 2, 2008 7:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

?

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
Details at Sinful Savage Tigers

by Man Mountain on Sep 2, 2008 7:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's try that again....

If Dickerson has already worked Pittsburgh starting pitcher Ian Snell for 10 pitches before the first out, I think it’s OK for Keppinger to be aggressive and swing at the first pitch of the SECOND AB of the game when we’re at home – perhaps he’ll sting a get-ahead fastball.

If we’re on the road, I’d want Kep to be a bit more selective, as he’d be batting while OUR starting pitcher was trying to rest in the Reds dugout.

I hope that’s much clearer…cuz my previous post was about as clear as a fogged-up car window at a drive-in….or the reason C-Pat is playing today.

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 2, 2008 7:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think you're still mixed up on home/road

We’re at home tonight, and Harang pitched first – he WAS resting in the dugout while Kepp was at bat.

Not to mention that if we had a team of 9 CDicks, we’d be through the starter before the fifth, every game.

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Sep 2, 2008 7:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're right.

I wasn’t watching the gamecast carefully enough at work…shut my hole. So Kep should have been more patient, maybe.

Just hand me the gun. I’ll load it myself.

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 2, 2008 7:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dickerson

on the 10th pitch? his plate discipline (taking pitches, not SO) has been the most impressive thing about him. he spoils plenty of pitches

by shark8 on Sep 2, 2008 7:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, it might have been the 9th pitch

But it’s a far cry from what Patterson was giving us from the top of the order.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 2, 2008 7:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was all set to talk about how Harang was cruising.

Who the hell is Brandon Moss? And two LaRoches? Huh.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 2, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

at least this game will be over early

so i can watch the RNC

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by xjjeep90 on Sep 2, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the younger laroche was in the man-ram trade

he sucked it up for the dodgers. figures that he’d be the one to hit a homer off harang.

by shark8 on Sep 2, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i personally doubt we get burrel

likely he’ll sign back with the phils, unless they decide to dump some salary

by shark8 on Sep 2, 2008 7:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought they were?

Ken could probably speak to this better, but I thought they were looking to get rid of Burrell, and I’d even heard Ryan Howard’s name thrown around as a possibility to leave Philly. Of the two, I would imagine they would keep Howard instead of Burrell.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 2, 2008 8:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aaron Harang's season

Is probably the second most disappointing thing about this season. The first being Corey Patterson, obv.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 2, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Holy jeez

BJ Upton just made a spectacular catch in CF. Call the cops, A-Rod was robbed.

Upton was a third baseman, but they moved him to the outfield, and it’s looking like a brilliant move.

Not that I’m suggesting anything…

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 2, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

He wears #2 because Jeter was his idol.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 2, 2008 7:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ouch

It’s always sad to watch an athlete decline with age. It’s even sadder when he wasn’t very good at SS to begin with…

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 2, 2008 8:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Here are some appropriate anagrams for today's starting Reds CF:

Let’s pick a favorite:

Coronary Septet
Attorney Corpse
Sorry, Potent Ace
Try, Reenact, Oops
On Career: Spotty
Career’s Not Typo
Career’s on Potty
Secretary On Top
Create Porn Toys

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 2, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

create porn toys, hands down

secretary on top close second, you think of those off the top of your head. if so impressive

by shark8 on Sep 2, 2008 7:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

id take him

i think raul ibanez could help a lot in the short term to for a cheapish price too

by shark8 on Sep 2, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Where would we play him?

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Sep 2, 2008 7:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I see Casey as a lefty pinch-hitter

and spot starter. Mostly a clubhouse influence signing, and we could use one right now. I see Votto or Pat Burrell in LF for the Reds next year, so getting Casey one start per week seems doable.

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 2, 2008 7:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think BP might get jealous...

…of Casey’s GIDP prowess

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
Details at Sinful Savage Tigers

by Man Mountain on Sep 2, 2008 7:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Honestly

I REALLY hope the Reds address many other roster needs in front of adding Casey. This team’s talent deficit is far more important than their charm deficit.

That said, I wouldn’t be averse to having him back on the cheap.

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
Details at Sinful Savage Tigers

by Man Mountain on Sep 2, 2008 8:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they definately need someone who can bat in the 3/4 spot.

who you ask? not a person in the world can predict that.
dunn…?

by shark8 on Sep 2, 2008 8:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wont happen

they have Eric Byrnes in LF and Conor Jackson at 1B. they dont have a place for him. but im sure this honeymoon has our boy dbackskins sayin’ awww shucks.

Dusty Baker is dumb.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 2, 2008 8:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good point on byrnes.

of course bob melvin could just use him in RF or 1B…lol

by shark8 on Sep 2, 2008 8:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Could, and has

He mostly plays RF for the Snakes, and was manning first last night.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 2, 2008 8:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

when they traded for him

they were joking about where they would play him and they mentioned 2B. the mental picture i had for the next 30 seconds of dunn at 2nd was very very entertaining

by shark8 on Sep 2, 2008 8:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i do

no one else is willing to take on the baggage, even though its probably worth it.

by shark8 on Sep 2, 2008 8:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"No one else" seems harsh

I would wager a lot of GMs would like to have Dunn’s production. I bet a bunch of AL guys are wondering how he’d look as a DH.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 2, 2008 8:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'll agree

i guess i meant it for effect. its tough to say what teams will pony up for him once the better FA are gone

by shark8 on Sep 2, 2008 8:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Casey for VEEP

He was a more popular mayor than Palin, but she could probably run faster with those legs…

by PeteyHendrix on Sep 2, 2008 7:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

harang isn't right

I don’t care what Welsh, Dusty, Dick Pole, Brantley or anyone else who’s paid to know better than me says, his delivery is different and his arm angle is wrong, wrong, wrong.

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
Details at Sinful Savage Tigers

by Man Mountain on Sep 2, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i know very little about pitching mechanics

but i was saying the same thing. it looks like he isnt using his hips the way he used to. he’s all arm, and that isnt good.

Dusty Baker is dumb.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 2, 2008 8:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm glad to see that while I was playing mario 2 there were a lot of comments made

after reading through the thread, I’m sad to see that most of them were about baseball

Flamenco strikes back!! Return of Don!

by chandrathan on Sep 2, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i was all up ons the Dr. Mario this weekend

i had forgotten how unresponsive the OG nintendo controller is. ahhhh memories….

Dusty Baker is dumb.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 2, 2008 8:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i never could get the hang of kung fu

it took me more than a few tries to just get past the first guy.

Dusty Baker is dumb.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 2, 2008 8:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All right, the thread has gotten big enough

that Safari has started to throw my posts through space and time like the Island on Lost.

And seeing’s how my new version of Firefox won’t recognize the comment section of Red Reporter, I bid you all good night.

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
Details at Sinful Savage Tigers

by Man Mountain on Sep 2, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There's a nice inning for Harang

Dickerson, Keppinger, and Phillips for us. Runs, please!

by Brendanukkah on Sep 2, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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