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St. Louis Cardinals at Cincinnati Reds, Sep 17, 2008 7:10 PM EDT



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St. Louis Cardinals
@ Cincinnati Reds

Wednesday, Sep 17, 2008, 7:10 PM EDT
Great American Ball Park

Todd Wellemeyer vs Aaron Harang

Clear. Winds blowing in from left field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 75.

 

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W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2008 - Todd Wellemeyer 12-7 3.63 1.23 118 55



W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2008 - Aaron Harang 4-16 4.96 1.40 141 47


Want to know how stupid pitcher wins are as a stat?  Aaron Harang has allowed 3 runs or fewer in 16 starts this season.  In those games his record is 3-8.  The Reds won the other 5 games in which he didn't get a decision.  That's some bad luck. 

That's been a big part of the story on Harang's season.  The offense has scored more than 4 runs in a Harang start just 4 times this season.  Yes, he had a 10-game stretch when he was a likely injured where he pitched terribly, but even when he has pitched well, the offense has let him down.  Don't let that record fool you too much.  If he's healthy, Harang will still be the Reds ace next season.

Wellemeyer appears to be another benefactor of the Pitcher Witch, Dave Duncan.  For all of the accolades that Leo Mazzone has heaped on him, it seems to me like Dave Duncan has had more success with marginal pitchers than any coach in baseball.  I have no study to back that up, just my gut.

The Reds need 4 more wins to top last season's total.  Whoopee!

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first!

Het, it worked last night.

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Sep 17, 2008 5:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll post the lineup, just like last night.

Danny Richar 2b
Wilkin Castillo lf
Joey Votto 1b
Edwin Encarnacion 3b
Jay Bruce rf
Ryan Hanigan c
Corey Patterson cf
Paul Janish ss
Aaron Harang p

The Fay didn’t have any spelling errors today. Things are looking up in Reds-land!

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

6 rookies and Corey Patterson. How much does Dusty hate Harang?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

did you post that, or steal that from Fay's blog?

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by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fay's blog, if that wasn't clear.

I can’t write lineups as well as Dusty can.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel sorry for Dusty.

The Reds don’t reimburse him postage for all the lineups he’s mailed in this year. He’s spent at least fifty bucks on stamps.

Phone's ringing, Dude.

by rjdio on Sep 17, 2008 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was a metaphor.

Phone's ringing, Dude.

by rjdio on Sep 17, 2008 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not a metapher?

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by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ladies and gentlemen

your Cincinnati Reds and Dusty Baker would like to present to you …..the next Corey Patterson:

Danny Richar!! let’s everyone give him a hand!!

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 17, 2008 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ouch, man.

I’d say he’s the next Jose Lopez, at worst…

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by BK on Sep 17, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And it worked again

This might need to become a trend. One comment and done, Reds win, I don’t act the fool in a game thread……everybody’s happy.

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Sep 18, 2008 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look everybody

John McCain really does love dark skinned people, see…

Overserved and underwhelmed.

by Pops Daniels on Sep 17, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

For living in Arizona

There are some very pale people in this picture.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He spent 5 years of his life in a POW camp

therefore he doesn’t have to like dark skinned people.

I know it doesn’t make since but the McCain camp will say it at some point.

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by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I sure wish the Vietcong

hadn’t attacked us on 9-11.

Overserved and underwhelmed.

by Pops Daniels on Sep 17, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess that must be...

…his black lovechild.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 17, 2008 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

how i miss an active Karl Rove

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by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the month of September

The Reds have the second best record in the NL Central, trailing only the Astros. Way to turn it on when it counts, guys.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 5:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's because Dunn is gone

they never played well in September with his lazy ass!

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 17, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your post will inspire a "Things that make you go hmmm" post on Lance McAlister's blog tomorrow

Which will inspire a “things that make me want to stick a screwdriver in my eye” post on my mental blog

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by BK on Sep 17, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

somebody really outta slip Corey Patterson steriods

so he cannot play.

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by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 6:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not a good start for the Harangatang

Good thing nobody’s here to see it

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by BK on Sep 17, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He gets out of it!

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

By the way, Andy Phillips in for EdE, batting 4th

WTF

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok, makes a little more sense.

Per The Fay:

Edwin Encarnacion was a late scratch. He hurt his left wrist in his last at-bat last night. “Too many check swings,” he said. “I couldn’t complete my swing with two hands.” He’s day-to-day. Dr. Tim Kremchek will check him tonight.

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by BK on Sep 17, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sounds lke smoebody needs to pinch hit.

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by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice

so Dusty really hates Harang

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 17, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

6 rookies, Corey Patterson, and Andy Phillips

Yeah, I’d say so.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Throwing error, Andy Phillips

Filling in for Encarnacion quite nicely.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What happened?

Did he throw it into the stands or what?

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by BubbaFan on Sep 17, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GameDay was mum on the subject

Merely that Troy Glaus reached on a throwing error by natural third baseman Andy Phillips.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Andy is not a natural third baseman

And it’s not like the Yankees needed a LIDR for their third baseman very often.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 17, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he was kidding.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait, Andy Phillips is our cleanup hitter?

I get that he’s in for EdE, but…uh.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jay Bruce walked

Frankly, I’m not sure what more you want.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

makes perfect sense

he would have had to scratch out two names if he put him somewhere else in the line up

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 17, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ouch

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 17, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hanigan got drilled

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 17, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

drill, baby, drill.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and Leon's getting Laaaaargger

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 17, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

did you mod yourself?

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by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep

I noticed the picture was too laarrrrrge.

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 17, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Think Patterson will bunt?

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 17, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Corey up with two on, no outs

Triple play?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he'd have to hit it really hard

because he is really fast

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 17, 2008 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

swinging K.

I’m calling it.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Patterson sucks

I’m calling it.

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 17, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow! How did you know?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's slychic.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if it looks like it sucks

and it (doesn’t) walk like it sucks.

Then it sucks.

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 17, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

You win this round.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice to know that the Reds clubhouse

well shovel my grandmothers driveway.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

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by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Welsh wants his daughter to date one.

"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Sep 17, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't get it.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Welsh said

the clubhouse is filled with nice men.

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by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

as is brendan's mom.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

welsh was blathering on about how the Reds have a bunch of "very nice young men" in the clubhouse

"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Sep 17, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes, but will they shave your grandmother?

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 17, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

kemo

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by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know what that word is supposed to mean

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 17, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

chemo

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by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he was on Hawaii 5-0

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 17, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, that was Kono

I remember because my neighbor named her cat after him.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 17, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's right

wasn’t it Zulu as Kono? (Or vice versa)

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 17, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i bet we could convince Tim McCarver

Arroyo is a Brendan too.

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by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Patterson should have taken charge

and caught that

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 17, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Catch what? Bird flu, hopefully

"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Sep 17, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i meant the fly ball

but bird flu works also

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 17, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Over/under...

innings until this lineup gets a hit.

I’ll say 3. First hit comes in the seventh.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

am i the only person who doesn't think

Loshe’s numbers are that far out of line with his career numbers. His career ERA+ is 97 and 2008 is 112, I feel like that is within the standard deviation. He is an average pitcher with above average velocity, who is having an above average season.

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by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

First strikeout for Harang

I’m looking forward to many more of those next year.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

more first strikeouts?

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that one was for you bubbafan

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by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's why Andy's batting cleanup

Go, Reds!

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by BubbaFan on Sep 17, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems like you like it when Andy cleans up.

He’s a gentleman, after all.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you missed a day in health class didn't you?

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by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Andy Oh!

he really hit that one! well done.

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by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 17, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hooha two times Wednesday!

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by BK on Sep 17, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Next Big Thing, Jay "The Boss" Bruce Almighty

better home run than A. Phillips.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 17, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

AndyFan homers

Rashida Jones is good luck. She was engaged to Mark Ronson for a time, but no longer. Mark Ronson, though a producer of fine music, is a collossal idiot.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Corey Patterson is jealous.

Ground out to second, calling it.

"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Sep 17, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shit, you miss a lot while you're typing

In honor of Jay Hova, there’s a pretty crappy interview available where Rashida Jones interviews Tupac Shakur (who was engaged to her sister when he was killed).

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i get why you are into her

but honestly, i dont find her all that attractive. weird looking mouth.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 17, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey hey hey

no need to get yourself messed up over a butterface. cool out.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 17, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always liked the term "pitching wedge"

Seems like a decent idea from about 40 yards away, but worse and worse the closer you get.

…But Rashida is not one!

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Phyllis you say?

I mean did he even see Pam? Or Karen from behind?

by Red Menace on Sep 17, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I like this Andy Phillips kid.

First 2 hits of the game – Back to backers

Ibn Khaldoun and Hilrich Zwingli - now that's real reform, Mr. McCain.

by Madville on Sep 17, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

JOME RUN!

Soft baby J, bitch

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

paul Jannish 1st and mabye only Johnson - good for him!

Ibn Khaldoun and Hilrich Zwingli - now that's real reform, Mr. McCain.

by Madville on Sep 17, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

damn Janny

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 17, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Janish!!

hells yeah we should play these scrubs allll the time!

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 17, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Note: The thoughts of Charlie Scrabbles are not necessarily representative of Red Reporter's

"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Sep 17, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At this point

Why not play the scrubs? At least they have something to play for.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 17, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the problem is

80% of our roster is scrubs. you can either play young guys like Richar and Janish who really have no future or you can play guys like Cabrera and Patterson who REALLY have no future. we thought this roster was F’ed up in spring…

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 17, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, my comment was leaning toward the playing of Patterson and Whole Bert

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by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Sep 17, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah i know youre not saying that

nobody would say that.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 17, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, i hope you don't really think I was promoting them playing.

And I kind of think that “not for public use” mark down the middle is kind of apropos

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by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Sep 17, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just want to see

players who want to be playing. Who put some effort into the game. Who have a reason to still care.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 17, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

like, say, not Dunn!

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually

don’t get to see the Reds much.

But I’m watching the Yankees “playing out the string,” and it ain’t pretty.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 17, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

poor kids

no playoffs must really be breaking their hearts. Give it 10 years and you stop feeling the pain.

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 17, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's breaking Jeter's heart

This will be the first time the Yanks didn’t make the post-season since he came up. And he has a keen sense of history. I think it really bothers him, because this will be the last season for the old Yankee Stadium. He didn’t want it to end this way.

The kids, they’re not so bothered. They have their whole futures in front of them. But Jeter…he’s reached the age where he knows it won’t last forever.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 17, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Derek Jeter's heart is broken

and Al Qaeda is winning

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 17, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now that's the year that broke my heart

I’m not greedy. I don’t expect the Yanks to win the WS every year. But I really wanted them to win in 2001. For the first time since I started seriously following baseball, America was rooting for the Yankees.

Probably half of NYC are people who moved there from somewhere else, and many of them hated the Yankees. But that year, many of them became true New Yorkers, embraced the city, and started rooting for the Bronx Bombers, instead of against them. There was even a truce between Mets fans and Yanks fans.

That was the year I really wanted the Yankees to win. Baseball will break your heart every time.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 17, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2001

I and most of my friends greatly resented the insistence that all Americans needed to root for the Yankees in those playoffs. The very essence of sports was superseded for narrative convenience. Our dorm’s TV lounge was greatly divided (or at least it was when Mariano took the mound in game 7 when most of the Yankee “fans” bothered to show up).

by Red Menace on Sep 18, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never noticed

any insistence that all Americans needed to root for the Yankees.

There were just a lot more people rooting for them than usual.

I, of course, happened to visiting a houseful of Yankee haters at the time. Which only added to the pain, since they were soooo happy to see the Yankees lose.

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by BubbaFan on Sep 18, 2008 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The rookies (and Andy Phillips)

love Aaron Harang!

And he loves himself too.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he's a major league baseball player

you wouldn’t think he’d have to do it himself.

…i’ m making a masturbation joke if that’s not clear.

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Sep 17, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Harang with a hit.. The world's ending tonight boys

This is a sign

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 17, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A sign...

…that this pitcher sucks?

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by BubbaFan on Sep 17, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the world is ending

The final sign will be something like a 4 home run game or a cycle by Patterson

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 17, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where did we get this Richar guy?

He looks a kid who’s really going to suck….

Ibn Khaldoun and Hilrich Zwingli - now that's real reform, Mr. McCain.

by Madville on Sep 17, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the principal in the Griffey deal

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 17, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i havent seen Nick Masset in a while

is he alright?

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 17, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's ours now

For Richar or for poorer.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, I see.

a pun.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"for Richar for poorer"

would have been better

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by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 17, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just trying to help you out

we’re a community here at RR Brendan, and we help each other out. like America used to be.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 17, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

like the island?

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

George and the gang

pronounce it “REE-shar”

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by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 17, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah

Good to know.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats right

you dont get to see too many games on television. sometimes i forget there are others out there who are less fortunate. just like John McCain.

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by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 17, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are two Americas

Those who get to listen to George Grande, and those who have a clue how to pronounce “Hairston.”

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which means that's obviously not how you pronounce it...

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is he French?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 17, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Domincan

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 17, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

*Dominican

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 17, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ready or not

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 17, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nicely done

i had to wikipedia that one.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 17, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

or is it Danzig?

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe Fransican

Ibn Khaldoun and Hilrich Zwingli - now that's real reform, Mr. McCain.

by Madville on Sep 17, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Harang

at 54 pitches through five innings.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

some odd results in the FSN text poll

Who’s most likely to win 20 for the Reds next year? Arroyo running neck and neck with Volquez. He knows how to win. Harang way behind, but what has he done for us lately?

by Red Menace on Sep 17, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Harang sucks.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm still shocked by the one a few weeks ago

about who was more likely to hit 25 HRs: Edwin, Votto, Bruce, B. Phillips.

EdE was 4th in voting even though he had the most HRs of the 4 and had a substantial lead over Votto and Bruce with only 25 games to go.

You can’t even spot Reds fans 140 games to keep them from thinking something stupid.

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by Man Mountain on Sep 17, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too bad that A. Phillips didn't hit another dinger

I wonder if Mr. Toothpick will give this guy anymore PT. After all you can’t just guys like Hobart and Bako.

Ibn Khaldoun and Hilrich Zwingli - now that's real reform, Mr. McCain.

by Madville on Sep 17, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good thing that Welsh likes dogs.

Chris and Bandit – together again

Ibn Khaldoun and Hilrich Zwingli - now that's real reform, Mr. McCain.

by Madville on Sep 17, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

74 pitches through 6 innings for the 'Tang

5 hits, no walks, 2 K’s

im prayin’ like hell that this guy is here to stay.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 17, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

trade him for scrap!

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think we can even get that

that contract is a burden.

/arroyo’d

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 17, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

arroyo backer

i look kinda smart now, dont i?

by obc2 on Sep 17, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

You never look smart. Dummy. :)

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Sep 18, 2008 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

aww, corey just made his first non-K out.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Harang batting for himself.

He’s kicking ass tonight.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

somebody did that when i went to a game against the Padres

a few years back. he did a good job dodging the first two security guards, but that third one really broke his ribs. it was awesome.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 17, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My favorite

Was this guy who got clobbered at the Bengals game. Kudos to him for managing to get the ball:

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Sep 18, 2008 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember that.

A college buddy of mine ended up being the security guy that chased him across the field and jacked him up. Truly a proud moment in Xavier history.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 18, 2008 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you think Dusty will leave Harang in to go for a complete game?

Or will he realize that Harang’s arm has been an issue all year, and sending him out after he’s thrown ~110 pitches would be foolish? Or will he want to pitch Coco in the 9th, only to remember that he used him in a blowout yesterday?

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He better.

It’s our only shot for getting one this year.

by Brian B on Sep 17, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah

Arroyo kinda threw a complete game a couple of weeks ago.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if aaron harang starts the 9th

Alan needs to commit cyber suicide again.

PS, where has Alan been?

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

???

???

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alan is a king cicada

"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Sep 17, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Leave his ass in.

It’s fantasy playoffs time, and Harang has been shit this year for me. After Haren had the CG shutout last night against me, I need this! Leave him in Dusty!

by Brian B on Sep 17, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice diatribe from tHom regarding leadership

as if

Ibn Khaldoun and Hilrich Zwingli - now that's real reform, Mr. McCain.

by Madville on Sep 17, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I should commit cyber suicide if Harang loses this game

Ibn Khaldoun and Hilrich Zwingli - now that's real reform, Mr. McCain.

by Madville on Sep 17, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

would you become Fat Vegas Madville?

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cherry Hudson, Jr. is in

But he’s not pitching. Harang is. Great.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FUCK ME IN THE ASS!

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why does it matter?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why?

You react the same way my little brother did when the needle showed less than a quarter tank of gas left in the car. Take it easy there, little buddy.

by Brian B on Sep 17, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'm a little anal about pitch sounts

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh, I get it. anal.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two down...

"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Sep 17, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Three down...

"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Sep 17, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shutout!

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I needed that!

Because you all care, I’m down 4 in the semifinal matchup, and he’s got Arroyo, Haren, Webb, Lincecum, and Oswalt left to pitch this week. I’ve got Cain, Oliver Perez, and Moyer (just picked him up for the 2-start week b/c Volstad was iffy . . . oops). Yeah, he’s going to kill me in a freak week where all his aces pitch twice. But my offense kicks ass compared to his, so I’m hanging in there.

by Brian B on Sep 17, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well that was short-lived

Johnny Damon and Alex Rios just homered for the bad guys. And Brandon Webb just took to the mound. All I can see is dust now.

by Brian B on Sep 17, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a damned good fantasy pitching staff

How did one person end up with all of them?

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Sep 18, 2008 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i guess 111 pitches isn't that bad

but still unnescary.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wasn't it 106?

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Toddley's in for the Brew Crew

"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Sep 17, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I could see him doing a good job

of sliding into the vat of beer after someone hits a home run.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He didn't give up the lead!

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you sure it was Todd Coffey?

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think GameDay had him in as B*tchT*ts.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has to if he wants to keep the pounds he lost off.

Since he’s in Milwaukee, I think Toddo’s going to struggle fighting off the beer and brats

"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Sep 17, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On ESPN as well.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You no help me now.... I say fuck you Dusty. I do it myself.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you can fuck her...

but calling brendan’s mom dusty is just over the line

by chandrathan on Sep 17, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think so

She showed me the Dodger Way. It was terrifying.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you know for as bad as Harang was in June, July and August

he may still have an ERA under 4.50. Imagine if the team could have had EV, Arroyo, and Harang rolling for most of the season.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

11 more to go!

Can you imagine if we pulled that off? The radio hosts here would be so optimistic, Dusty would get an extension, and Dunn would get more public crucifixion.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why does Dusty Baker hate me?

"I never should have given up the animation rights."

by BobbyO on Sep 17, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Who's this defensive tackle hitting for the brewers now?

Brewers have some large fellows, him, CC, and Prince?

"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Sep 17, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Brad Nelson is his name, by the way

"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Sep 17, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The entire Brew Crew is now on the Prince Fielder diet

Ned refused and they dumped his ass.

Ibn Khaldoun and Hilrich Zwingli - now that's real reform, Mr. McCain.

by Madville on Sep 17, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW Cantu hit a Grand Slam tonight

Kyle Loeshce (?) pitches well

Dunner is 0 for 2 , one K

Ibn Khaldoun and Hilrich Zwingli - now that's real reform, Mr. McCain.

by Madville on Sep 17, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tony Blair is on Daily Show

kicking Jon Stewarts ass…

too bad we have that no foreigner restiction on running for president

AKA redsfan68 Nobody listens to Andrew

by nlt-andrew68 on Sep 18, 2008 11:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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