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Game 151: Reds vs Cardinals

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St. Louis Cardinals
@ Cincinnati Reds

Wednesday, Sep 17, 2008, 7:10 PM EDT
Great American Ball Park

Todd Wellemeyer vs Aaron Harang

Clear. Winds blowing in from left field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 75.

 

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W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2008 - Todd Wellemeyer 12-7 3.63 1.23 118 55

W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2008 - Aaron Harang 4-16 4.96 1.40 141 47

Want to know how stupid pitcher wins are as a stat?  Aaron Harang has allowed 3 runs or fewer in 16 starts this season.  In those games his record is 3-8.  The Reds won the other 5 games in which he didn't get a decision.  That's some bad luck. 

That's been a big part of the story on Harang's season.  The offense has scored more than 4 runs in a Harang start just 4 times this season.  Yes, he had a 10-game stretch when he was a likely injured where he pitched terribly, but even when he has pitched well, the offense has let him down.  Don't let that record fool you too much.  If he's healthy, Harang will still be the Reds ace next season.

Wellemeyer appears to be another benefactor of the Pitcher Witch, Dave Duncan.  For all of the accolades that Leo Mazzone has heaped on him, it seems to me like Dave Duncan has had more success with marginal pitchers than any coach in baseball.  I have no study to back that up, just my gut.

The Reds need 4 more wins to top last season's total.  Whoopee!

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Het, it worked last night.

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Sep 17, 2008 5:01 PM EDT   0 recs

I'll post the lineup, just like last night.

Danny Richar 2b
Wilkin Castillo lf
Joey Votto 1b
Edwin Encarnacion 3b
Jay Bruce rf
Ryan Hanigan c
Corey Patterson cf
Paul Janish ss
Aaron Harang p

The Fay didn’t have any spelling errors today. Things are looking up in Reds-land!

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 5:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Also

6 rookies and Corey Patterson. How much does Dusty hate Harang?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 5:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

did you post that, or steal that from Fay's blog?

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 5:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Fay's blog, if that wasn't clear.

I can’t write lineups as well as Dusty can.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 5:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I feel sorry for Dusty.

The Reds don’t reimburse him postage for all the lineups he’s mailed in this year. He’s spent at least fifty bucks on stamps.

Phone's ringing, Dude.

by rjdio on Sep 17, 2008 6:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That was a metaphor.

Phone's ringing, Dude.

by rjdio on Sep 17, 2008 6:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

not a metapher?

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 6:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ladies and gentlemen

your Cincinnati Reds and Dusty Baker would like to present to you …..the next Corey Patterson:

Danny Richar!! let’s everyone give him a hand!!

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 17, 2008 6:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ouch, man.

I’d say he’s the next Jose Lopez, at worst…

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 7:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And it worked again

This might need to become a trend. One comment and done, Reds win, I don’t act the fool in a game thread……everybody’s happy.

"Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est."

by jch24 on Sep 18, 2008 9:25 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Look everybody

John McCain really does love dark skinned people, see…

Overserved and underwhelmed.

by Pops Daniels on Sep 17, 2008 5:26 PM EDT   0 recs

For living in Arizona

There are some very pale people in this picture.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 5:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He spent 5 years of his life in a POW camp

therefore he doesn’t have to like dark skinned people.

I know it doesn’t make since but the McCain camp will say it at some point.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 5:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I sure wish the Vietcong

hadn’t attacked us on 9-11.

Overserved and underwhelmed.

by Pops Daniels on Sep 17, 2008 5:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I guess that must be...

…his black lovechild.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 17, 2008 6:12 PM EDT to parent up   1 recs

rec'd

how i miss an active Karl Rove

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 6:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

In the month of September

The Reds have the second best record in the NL Central, trailing only the Astros. Way to turn it on when it counts, guys.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 5:51 PM EDT   0 recs

It's because Dunn is gone

they never played well in September with his lazy ass!

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 17, 2008 7:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Your post will inspire a "Things that make you go hmmm" post on Lance McAlister's blog tomorrow

Which will inspire a “things that make me want to stick a screwdriver in my eye” post on my mental blog

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 7:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

somebody really outta slip Corey Patterson steriods

so he cannot play.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 6:32 PM EDT   0 recs

Not a good start for the Harangatang

Good thing nobody’s here to see it

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 7:14 PM EDT   0 recs

He gets out of it!

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 7:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

By the way, Andy Phillips in for EdE, batting 4th

WTF

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 7:18 PM EDT   0 recs

Ok, makes a little more sense.

Per The Fay:

Edwin Encarnacion was a late scratch. He hurt his left wrist in his last at-bat last night. “Too many check swings,” he said. “I couldn’t complete my swing with two hands.” He’s day-to-day. Dr. Tim Kremchek will check him tonight.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 7:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

sounds lke smoebody needs to pinch hit.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 7:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

nice

so Dusty really hates Harang

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 17, 2008 7:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

6 rookies, Corey Patterson, and Andy Phillips

Yeah, I’d say so.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 7:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Throwing error, Andy Phillips

Filling in for Encarnacion quite nicely.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 7:28 PM EDT   0 recs

What happened?

Did he throw it into the stands or what?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 17, 2008 7:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

GameDay was mum on the subject

Merely that Troy Glaus reached on a throwing error by natural third baseman Andy Phillips.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 7:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Andy is not a natural third baseman

And it’s not like the Yankees needed a LIDR for their third baseman very often.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 17, 2008 7:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think he was kidding.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 7:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wait, Andy Phillips is our cleanup hitter?

I get that he’s in for EdE, but…uh.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 7:37 PM EDT   0 recs

Jay Bruce walked

Frankly, I’m not sure what more you want.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 7:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

makes perfect sense

he would have had to scratch out two names if he put him somewhere else in the line up

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 17, 2008 7:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ouch

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 17, 2008 7:39 PM EDT   0 recs

hanigan got drilled

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 17, 2008 7:39 PM EDT   0 recs

drill, baby, drill.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 7:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

and Leon's getting Laaaaargger

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 17, 2008 7:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

did you mod yourself?

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yep

I noticed the picture was too laarrrrrge.

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 17, 2008 7:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Think Patterson will bunt?

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 17, 2008 7:39 PM EDT   0 recs

Corey up with two on, no outs

Triple play?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 7:40 PM EDT   0 recs

he'd have to hit it really hard

because he is really fast

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 17, 2008 7:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

swinging K.

I’m calling it.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 7:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Patterson sucks

I’m calling it.

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 17, 2008 7:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow! How did you know?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 17, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

he's slychic.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 7:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

if it looks like it sucks

and it (doesn’t) walk like it sucks.

Then it sucks.

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 17, 2008 7:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

...

You win this round.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

nice to know that the Reds clubhouse

well shovel my grandmothers driveway.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 7:45 PM EDT   0 recs

I don't get it.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 7:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Welsh said

the clubhouse is filled with nice men.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 7:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

as is brendan's mom.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 7:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

but she is.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 17, 2008 7:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

welsh was blathering on about how the Reds have a bunch of "very nice young men" in the clubhouse

"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Sep 17, 2008 7:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Welsh wants his daughter to date one.

"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Sep 17, 2008 7:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yes, but will they shave your grandmother?

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 17, 2008 7:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

kemo

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't know what that word is supposed to mean

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 17, 2008 7:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

chemo

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 7:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

he was on Hawaii 5-0

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 17, 2008 7:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No, that was Kono

I remember because my neighbor named her cat after him.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 17, 2008 7:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

that's right

wasn’t it Zulu as Kono? (Or vice versa)

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 17, 2008 8:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

They have a Brendan on their team!

Ooh, now I want them to win!

by Brendanukkah on Sep 17, 2008 7:50 PM EDT   0 recs

i bet we could convince Tim McCarver

Arroyo is a Brendan too.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 17, 2008 7:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Patterson should have taken charge

and caught that

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 17, 2008 7:52 PM EDT   0 recs

Catch what? Bird flu, hopefully

"Yes, and it's so important in this sport that the athletes be able to train in the same location." -Cynthia Potter, NBC Synchronized Diving Analyst

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Sep 17, 2008 7:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i meant the fly ball

but bird flu works also

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 17, 2008 7:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Over/under...

innings until this lineup gets a hit.

I’ll say 3. First hit comes in the seventh.