Cincinnati Reds @ Arizona Diamondbacks GameThread, Sep 14, 2008 4:10 PM EDT

Game 149: Reds at Diamondbacks

by Slyde on Sep 14, 2008 2:00 PM EDT in Game Threads Comment 140 comments

Cincinnati Reds at Arizona Diamondbacks, Sep 14, 2008 4:10 PM EDT

Next Game

Sunday, Sep 14, 2008, 4:10 PM EDT
Chase Field

	W-L	ERA	WHIP	K	BB
2008 - Johnny Cueto	8-13	4.77	1.37	149	59

	W-L	ERA	WHIP	K	BB
2008 - Max Scherzer	0-2	3.00	1.21	45	15

Wow, what a game last night. Or not. Honestly, not only did I not watch it, but I scheduled this post early on Saturday afternoon. I'm loading up the truck today and moving into my new place on Tuesday. I'll probably be back around on Monday since I still have to, you know, work, but I'll be a little more sparse the next few days. Hopefully boobs will show up and keep you all entertained.

As you know, I'm still rooting for Johnny's #10. He won't get it today, but hopefully he'll get closer.

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First!

the Reds suck, the Bucks are abysmal, the Panthers are losing and I’m at work… Thank god for Micah Owings, and Stephen Curry!

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Sep 14, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Micah Owings in left?

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 14, 2008 2:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

After three quarters at PBS, the Reds are looking pretty good right now.

Holy Christ, talk about a bad sports team. They should move the team to somewhere else.

by Brian B on Sep 14, 2008 3:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

lineups, via GameDay:

Dickerson LF
Kepp SS
Votto 1B
EdE 3B
Bruce RF
Richar 2B
Patterson CF
Hanigan C
Cueto P

at least Hanigan gets to catch one of the youngsters today. im still waiting for Castillo to get a start behind the plate though.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 14, 2008 3:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

What does Keppinger have to do not to bat second?

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 14, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Play first base, third base, pitcher, or catcher.

by Brian B on Sep 14, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

...or break a kneecap

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 14, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, a broken finger finally got BP out of hitting cleanup.

by Brian B on Sep 14, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You know, Carson Palmer kinda sucks.

by Brian B on Sep 14, 2008 3:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

unfortuately, i think youre right

he really hasnt been the same since that knee injury, has he? whatever it is, he needs to clean it up.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 14, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right on with his OSU-USC prediction though!

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Sep 14, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Interestingly

Every one of today’s starters for the Diamondbacks has a batting average below .250.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 14, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

at least I have Mad Men to look forward to tonight

We dodged a bullet last week where it looked like Don’s new secretary was going to get fired. They need to give here a spinoff where she just stands around looking gorgeous for an hour.

by Red Menace on Sep 14, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

pictures?

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 14, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I should have known my audience

Here are a few from the show. She’s the brunette.
http://blogs.amctv.com/season_2_mad_men_photo_gallery/episode-5-jane-and-joan.php
http://blogs.amctv.com/season_2_mad_men_photo_gallery/episode-5-jane.php

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0514228/

by Red Menace on Sep 14, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Body-more represent!

Ok, I actually kind of shit on Baltimore. But still, nice to see that something pretty came out of the city.

So my point of view is that since women (and men, to be fair) generally ate less and likely moved more, ’50s women > ’00s women. Invisibility of venereal diseases, ’50s fashion, and Audrey Hepburn only help matters. Anyone disagree with me on this?

Note: I am only here to argue 50s v. 00s. God never made anyone better than Audrey. I will not argue that.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Sep 14, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

My wife can't stand her

She’s a big Joan fan. I like ’em all.

by ken on Sep 14, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No sign of Jane tonight

but Joan got a real raw deal. You know I’m glad I’m not a woman in 1962. What’s to become of Don and Bette’s marriage? Catch the fever, people!

by Red Menace on Sep 15, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Roh-roh

Not looking good.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 14, 2008 4:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Interesting

That’s two GIDPs in the last two days for Dunn. I don’t think I’ve seen that all year from him.

by Brian B on Sep 14, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Dunn still secretly loves the Reds

I can’t believe Cueto escaped unscathed.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 14, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That happens sometimes when people in front of him reach base.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 14, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Quiet thread...

are we losing yet?

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 14, 2008 5:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Kepp throws out Eckstein

I don’t think I’ve seen more grit on a single play.

by ken on Sep 14, 2008 5:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Paul Byrd isn't pitching

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Sep 14, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

the unwashed lettuce play...

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 14, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dunn with the clutch walk...

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 14, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Vol-K!

Reynolds Ks to end the 3rd.

by ken on Sep 14, 2008 5:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Volquez keeps escaping jams

Any thoughts on Max Scherzer’s freaky eyes?

by Red Menace on Sep 14, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you mean K-ueto?

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 14, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

uh .. yeah

by ken on Sep 14, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

71 pitches through 3 for Cueto...

ruh roh.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 14, 2008 5:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hooray for people named for letters of the alphabet!

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 14, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Reminder:

Corey Patterson sucks.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 14, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

bored wikiing rocks

could anybody else have seen this happening via Dunn if the game was played in GABP?

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Sep 14, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He does suffer from lots of involuntary muscle spasms...

from all the exertion.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 14, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

did you watch the linked video?

There’s, uh, nothing involuntary about that…about as involuntary as Boeckman’s 2nd quarter fumble.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Sep 14, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh, I know.

But that was the official explanation from the Polish government.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 14, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i propose that we here at RR specifically

and in the entire state of Ohio generally abstain from ever mentioning that game again. ever again.

just once i want one team i support, just ONE of them, to not embarrass themselves. just once.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 14, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

too big to direct link...

but, um, you’re saying this shouldn’t be remembered either?

Never fear. We’ll always have Eddie.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Sep 14, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and on the topic of not-the-reds

Anyone thinking of getting War As They Knew It? JoePo made it sound pretty good.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Sep 14, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Clarrett i can deal with

he won us a national championship. it doesnt absolve him by any means, but it helps.

and i was only 11 in ’95, and i didnt watch much college football. the first real Buckeyes star i remember Pepe Pearson.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 14, 2008 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pepe Pearson? Star?

I was 8 in ‘95, but the ’95 Bucks/’95 Reds were my first rooting interests. And, I mean, Derek Combs > Michael Wiley > Pepe Pearson

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Sep 14, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pepe Pearson was a joke

he’s just the first guy i remember really rooting for as a bucks fan.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 14, 2008 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jesus

I graduated high school in ’94. Warm up the hearse already!

Our problem this year has been offense and defense. -- MixFMKyle

by jch24 on Sep 15, 2008 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

99 pitches in four innings...

He sure isn’t making this look easy.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 14, 2008 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

"Only 99? He's got 4 more innings left in him" - Dusty

by Brian B on Sep 14, 2008 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not a fan of hurricanes hitting Ohio

And this could help explain why some Cincinnatians aren’t here. 660,000 without power. That, or they watched the Bengals game and took the next logical course of action.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 14, 2008 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

90,000 are out of power in the Columbus area

a grill lid just skidded past my door.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 14, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

is your refigerator flying down the street?

Then you better go catch it!

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Sep 14, 2008 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I was downtown and saw the awning fall off a Starbucks on to the street

Trees down everywhere, there were a few street lights down on the highway, signs down all over… Cincinnati is basically a clusterfuck right now

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 14, 2008 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

"right now"

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 14, 2008 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

That might have been my brother's

He was talking about grilling out tonight. I tried to tell him he’d never get it lit in these winds.

by Red Menace on Sep 14, 2008 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

well, i'd give it back

but its pretty beat up. i think it hit a couple of cars.

you know, its pretty amazing that this is just the leftovers of this storm. i cant imagine what it must of have been like down in Texas.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 14, 2008 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess they couldn't imagine it either

Which is why thousands of people ignored evacuation orders, then called 9-11 begging to be rescued.

They’ve declared a week-long curfew in Houston. Hopefully they’ll have everything fixed up and ready to go by the time the Reds arrive.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 14, 2008 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ended up being 693,000 at one point

So sayeth the lady from Duke. Over 90% outage. pwned.

Our problem this year has been offense and defense. -- MixFMKyle

by jch24 on Sep 15, 2008 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah because it was breezy

what a joke of a company!

What's the ratio of Stanley Nickels to Schrute Bucks?

by chandrathan on Sep 15, 2008 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good thing we left him in.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Sep 14, 2008 5:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Just about to say that

Patterson had to run a long ways to catch that.

by ken on Sep 14, 2008 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lincecum was left in yesterday to throw 138 pitches

Bochy felt it was important for Timmy to get a complete game.

by ken on Sep 14, 2008 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

at least we can say

that Dusty has never done THAT.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 14, 2008 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

WE can say that

but the Cuns fans’ll have to stay mute on the issue.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Sep 14, 2008 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ike tells Cincinnati " have some cake bitch ! "

i’ve got no power, lost a bunch of branches and shingles.

hate to think of what it was like down in houston

AKA redsfan68 Nobody listens to Andrew

by nlt-andrew68 on Sep 14, 2008 6:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

so can anyone give me a game update ???

AKA redsfan68 Nobody listens to Andrew

by nlt-andrew68 on Sep 14, 2008 7:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Top 9th, 1-1

Dunn struck out in the last inning with 2 outs and the bases loaded. Wonder what Marty had to say about it…

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 14, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Fantasy playoffs coming down to mthe wire.

I was up 8, but I keep losing points every time Granderson, Hamilton, and Dunn strike out. They’re 0-11 with 7 Ks. My lead is 1 point.

by Brian B on Sep 14, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bruce HR, Upton HR

Cueto battled but got through 5. I was away for 20 minutes but just got back to see Bray K Dunn with the bases loaded and two outs in the 8th. Think I heard some boos afterwards.

by ken on Sep 14, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dare we hope

for one more cardiac comeback?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 14, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Free baseball!

Isn’t anyone excited?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 14, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

this offense refuses to be exciting

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Sep 14, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't believe it

Corey Patterson…again?!

Isn’t he Mr. Clutchy McClutchpants…

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 14, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

But you know it's been a bad year when you have mixed feelings about a clutch HR by CP...

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Sep 14, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's twice he's done that in Artizona this season.

Remember the 2-out, 2-strike fly ball that carried out back in April?

by Brian B on Sep 14, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

All right, who kidnapped Corey Patterson

and replaced him with a baseball player?

Where have you gone, Johnny Vander Meer?

by jgoodfri on Sep 14, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

This will save my fantasy season if Cordero can hold on for the save.

by Brian B on Sep 14, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I need 17 points from him to retake the lead in my game...

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Sep 14, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Uh oh

he’s been really good at getting two outs and then completely collapsing.

by Brian B on Sep 14, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hate having that Annoying Little Shit in the NL

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 14, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Shanahan is going to 2 at home when the extra point will tie it.

That’s nuts!

by Brian B on Sep 14, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

And he got it!

24 seconds left.

by Brian B on Sep 14, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What a game!

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Sep 14, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did you catch the cheating Cutler fumble?

I think after that Shanahan didn’t care.

by Red Menace on Sep 14, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no doubt

if im Norv Turner im filing some kind of “no fair” complaint to the league.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 14, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh shit.

Here we go again. Cordero is in collapse mode.

by Brian B on Sep 14, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

K!

Wow, he closes the door.

by Brian B on Sep 14, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Got him

It’s over, Cordero saves your fantasy season!

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 14, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And mine!

Up .21 points!

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Sep 14, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And Hamilton strikes out again . . . the golden sombrero for him.

That’s 0-12 with 8Ks between Hamilton, Dunn, and Granderson, netting me -8 points. Cordero had 8 points for getting the save, 2 Ks, and an IP.

by Brian B on Sep 14, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually, Dunn did have 2 BBs, so it wasn't a complete washout.

by Brian B on Sep 14, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

AZ: 20 base runners, Reds: 6

And we won?!

Where have you gone, Johnny Vander Meer?

by jgoodfri on Sep 14, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hmmmm

That is rather surprising, isn’t it?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 14, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hell yeah, CoCo!

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Sep 14, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

CoCo hanngs on

And makes Corey’s dinger stand up.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 14, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs

Just like Dusty's daughter does.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 14, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hehehehe. Rec'd

by Brian B on Sep 14, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This Brocos-Chargers game is incredible

by Brian B on Sep 14, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It was

Crazy, unreal, classic.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 14, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They're recapping it now

on ESPN.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 14, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Great effort by Philip Rivers, but the hail mary comes up empty.

Gutsy 2 poitn conversion call by Shanahan.

by Brian B on Sep 14, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

If Pittsburgh wins tonight, Survivor pickers will be 9-for-9 this week

Very impressive.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 14, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

/trash talk about all the fools being ousted last week

by Red Menace on Sep 14, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

/walks to Peyton Manning's house to slap him for shitting the bed at home against Kyle Orton's Bears last week

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 14, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah yeah yeah

we all just decided to get out of this little contest real quick because its totally for losers. so…in losing, we all were actually the winners!! yeah thats the ticket! WE’RE the winners, and YOU guys are the losers!

/goddam Lions…

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 14, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I only saw brilliant NFL analyst Bill Simmons mention this...

but the crowd noise was way down at Indy’s new retractable roof stadium. Their old dome used to be the loudest place in the NFL (except maybe Seattle). Simmons didn’t think Orton could have come away from the dome on opening night with a win, and I think he actually has a point there.

by Red Menace on Sep 14, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah,

they talked ab out that during the game. The Bears had prepared for a deafening crowd but were pleasantly surprised.

by Brian B on Sep 14, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The rest of his column this week

was the worst I’ve ever read from him. And I read ’em all.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 14, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

Notice how I went out of my way to apologize for citing him. Now that he’s older and has a family his shtick doesn’t really work. The Karate Kid/Rocky/Hoosier references are a bit embarrassing.

by Red Menace on Sep 14, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

is this our first sub-100-comment game thread of the year?

i move that it shouldnt count, as im sure a great majority of loyal RedReporters went without electricity for much of the afternoon.

and Corey won it for us. i’ll be damned.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 14, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Dunn at first base

Seeing Dunn perform reasonably at first base makes me think the Reds really wasted an opportunity. Not that it mattered much this year with Votto. What if Griffey had been moved to right and Dunn to first for ’06 when we missed the playoffs by 2 games?

by Red Menace on Sep 14, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Tehy tried it, remember?

It didn’t work very well.

And we keep talking about how it makes sense to try Phillips at SS . . . but it has made sense for them to try that the last three years too. And they haven’t done it. They’re not going to next year either. We’re stuck with Alex Gonzalez.

by Brian B on Sep 14, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

im not sure what went on

the unofficial word was that Dunn hated playing 1st and wouldnt do it. but everything we’ve heard out of Arizona is that he has been willing to play anywhere, including RF. i can believe that the local media may have conjured up the “Dunn hates playing 1st” thing just for smears. not to say that its true, but it sounds reasonable and thats just as bad.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 14, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, this is what's surprising

I know the Reds tried it in ST and it didn’t work, but why didn’t it work? And why are the DBacks able to make it work in the middle of a pennant race no less (although they’re quickly falling out of the race. I blame Dunn)?

by Red Menace on Sep 14, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe it was a case of...

…a change in latitude producing a change in attitude.

He was a big fish in a small pond in Cincinnati. Maybe he felt a veteran star like himself shouldn’t have to make accommodations.

Now he’s just a rent a player, who will be looking for a job in the off-season. Like anyone at a new job, he’s trying hard to make a good impression.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 14, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

that is a logical explanation

but that kind of attitude doesnt sound anything like the Dunn we know, does it? i mean, he’s such a laid back, low-key guy, it just doesnt sound likely that he would act like a prima donna in just this one situation. i dont know, maybe so. but my heart says the Reds screwed up, as they have done so many times before.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 14, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well

If what was posted in the other thread is true – he’s lazy – that could explain it. Some people are prima donnas because they have big heads. You know, the type who pitch a fit if they don’t have the biggest limo.

I doubt Dunn cares about stuff like that, but maybe he was comfortable in LF, and didn’t want to put out the effort of learning a new position. Now, he has reason to.
He’s not playing if he doesn’t switch positions.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 14, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

interesting point

but i think it is just as likely that the Reds saw Dunn misplay a few balls at 1st in spring training and declared it a bust. as Brain B said upthread, we’ve had a shortstop problem for some time and a bona fide shortstop playing 2B the whole time.

Jr did end up moving to RF, but it was likely 2-3 years overdue when it finally happened. they also had him bat 3rd for 2/3 of a season when he obviously had no business doing so. they’ve also killed Homer’s curveball (arguably his best pitch) and made Keppinger their primary shortstop for an entire freaking season.

some of these decisions have been made by past regimes, but none have given me any reason to believe they have a firm grasp of the strengths and weaknesses of their personnel. perhaps it was Dunn’s unwillingness to change that precipitated all this, but if i were betting man (im not), i would say the Reds just dont know what they are doing. and they havent for quite some time.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 14, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well

We’ll probably find out. If Dunn wins a GG at 1B next year, we’ll know the Reds blew it. If he sucks at 1B and is put back in LF, well, maybe the Reds aren’t totally clueless.

And on a totally unrelated topic…holy crap, did you see what’s going on with Lehman? Everyone on Wall St. is running around like a chicken with his head cut off. Lehman is expected to declare bankruptcy tonight (no bailout for them). All the traders were called in to work today to try and prepare. Tomorrow’s expected to be a madhouse in the financial markets.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 14, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

its alright

the fundamentals of our economy are strong.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 14, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hah

The fundamentals of the economy look scarily like right before the Great Depression. Pity whoever wins the election. He’ll get the blame, fairly or not.

This debt binge goes back at least to the dot-com boom, so both political parties had a hand in it. Yesterday, Greenspan called this a ‘once-in-a-century’ crisis. (Never mind that he’s a big reason it happened.)

Greenspan told ABC’s “This Week” that the situation “is in the process of outstripping anything I’ve seen, and it still is not resolved and it still has a way to go.”

“Indeed, it will continue to be a corrosive force until the price of homes in the United States stabilizes,” Greenspan said.

Translation: until home prices across the nation fall enough so that ordinary working people can actually afford them. Possibly for cash on the barrelhead.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 15, 2008 6:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

why wasnt' this comment flagged?

What's the ratio of Stanley Nickels to Schrute Bucks?

by chandrathan on Sep 15, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Brewers continue to nosedive

After losing the first two games at Philly, the Brewers couldn’t protect a two-run lead in the afternoon game against Joe Blanton and are losing 6-0 in the night game. If that holds they’ll be tied with Philly in the WC. Chicago has the division wrapped up.

by ken on Sep 14, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Milwaukee even lost the coin flip with Philadelphia

by ken on Sep 14, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And the Cubs are playing in their stadium tonight.

That’s insulting.

by Brian B on Sep 14, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And Big Z just defiled that stadium

with a no-no!

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Sep 14, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

1 walk, 10 Ks

i hate him.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 14, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Way I look at it is

Better now than in the playoffs, cause nothing would e worse than a Cuns World Series W

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Sep 14, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

good thinking

maybe the Dbacks can sweep them in the 1st round. again. because Adam Dunn will hit 5 home runs at Wrigley.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 14, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well... this good play of ours lately is a double edged sword

We mighta just sealed the fate of the D-Backs this weekend

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by chesirecat on Sep 14, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

youre probably right

but the Buckeyes just got crucified, the Reds have been dead for months, the Bengals look like the Bungles, and LeBron is going to move to New York. Adam Dunn beating the Cubs is really all i have to hope for right now, so if you dont mind…

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 14, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tough times to be a sports fan from C-O, eh?

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Sep 14, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

tough times indeed

im also rooting for the Indians to move their AAA squad here this winter. it makes too much sense for it not to work, right? the Nats contract is up, and they can take their team to Richmond, where the Braves are vacating for a new stadium in Georgia. the Indians contract with Buffalo is up, so they should move in to the new stadium opening here. i would definitely go to more games if it were the Indians AAA team here in town.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 14, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs