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Game 147: Reds at Diamondbacks

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Cincinnati Reds @ Arizona Diamondbacks


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Cincinnati Reds
@ Arizona Diamondbacks

Friday, Sep 12, 2008, 9:40 PM EDT
Chase Field

Johnny Cueto Aaron Harang vs Brandon Webb

Clear. Winds blowing in from left field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 95.

 

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W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2008 - Johnny Cueto 8-13 4.77 1.37 149 59

W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2008 - Brandon Webb 19-7 3.41 1.20 166 57

The Reds seem to be catching these division front runners all while they are on a downswing.  The Diamondbacks have lost 6 in a row and have just 3 wins in their last 16 games.  Similarly, Webb has been struggling as well.  In his last three starts, he's pitched only 13.2 innings and has a 12.51 ERA. 

Johnny Cueto pitched okay in his last start, but didn't get any help from the bullpen and the Reds lost 14-9.  He has a 3.73 ERA since the start of August, but an injury and a general inability to pitch deep into games has left him with just a 1-3 record in that span.  He still needs 2 wins to reach double digits on the season.

Aaron Harang is the starter tonight, not Cueto.

Other than that, I can't think of any storylines for this game.  Can you?

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1st!

Let’s get ’er Dunn!

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Sep 12, 2008 7:33 PM EDT   0 recs

Interesting lineup

Dickerson, lf
Richar, ss
Votto, 1b
Encarnacion, 3b
Bruce, rf
Castillo, 2b
Patterson, cf
Bako, c
Harang, rhp

Looks “good” 1-6, but then… I guess I should be satisfied that both Wilkin and Richar are getting to play at the same time. I wonder if Rosales could play LF?

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 12, 2008 8:43 PM EDT   0 recs

Can't complain about 1-6

especially those of us who wanted to see the young’uns

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Sep 12, 2008 8:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

why has Castillo not played catcher yet?

seems odd to me.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 12, 2008 8:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep can't complain...but I will anyway

There is no reason for Bako to be in this line up period.
Can’t Wilkin Castilto (whatever) catch ..then we could have Rosales get a start – or why not Hannigan and Rosales?
I understand that with Donkey on the other team we’ll need fast OFs.

Charlie – I’ve responded to your trade – here it is agin
AFTER this Sun.
I’ll trade TJ for EJ.

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Sep 12, 2008 8:57 PM EDT   0 recs

im cool with that

but seriously man, i havent gotten any kind of response from you at Yahoo. i dont know what the deal is, but i never got it.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 12, 2008 9:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wilkin Castillo is on a mission to play every position outside of pitcher before the season ends

He’s Freel w/ less scrappiness and more ability (I hope)

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Sep 12, 2008 9:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

woah

Cowboy just compared Dunn to Patterson. and my cat just spontaneously combusted.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 12, 2008 9:11 PM EDT   0 recs

The comparison

better have been ‘they both played in the outfield for the Reds this year and were born in this country’…… sorry to hear about your cat.

http://www.redsminorleagues.com and http://www.RedsPitchFX.com

by dougdirt on Sep 12, 2008 9:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

he was saying

how they were both players that suffered from unrealistic expectations. people expected Dunn to be a run producer and people expected Patterson to be a leadoff hitter. in a weird, Cowboy sorta logic it kinda works, but it still burned my cat pretty bad. but he’s a tough guy. he’ll be alright. thanks for your concern though.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 12, 2008 9:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

See that's the problem though

Only Dusty expected Patterson to be a productive leadoff hitter. Anyone else with half a brain has been wondering all season why Patterson led off even once. So the analogy sucks.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 12, 2008 9:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think

it was more of a ‘7 years ago people expected Patterson to be a good leadoff hitter’ and ‘7 years ago people expected Dunn to turn into a .280/..400/.575 type of player’. Neither guy turned into what was expected of them.

http://www.redsminorleagues.com and http://www.RedsPitchFX.com

by dougdirt on Sep 12, 2008 9:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

but one of them

although he didnt meet certain expectations, turned into a very high-quality ballplayer. the other is barely capable of playing baseball on sega genesis.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 12, 2008 9:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

As an aside...

Better baseball game for Sega Genesis: RBI Baseball ’94 or Super Baseball 2020?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 12, 2008 9:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

never had a genesis

im a Baseball Stars kinda guy.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 12, 2008 9:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

never had a genesis

but I logged a lot of hours on my neighbors. We rocked Super Baseball 2020.

And I was a Baseball Stars guy.

by Red Menace on Sep 12, 2008 11:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Lucky 7 Fight!

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 12, 2008 11:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I vote Super Baseball 202

But only behind Baseball Stars.

Our problem this year has been offense and defense. -- MixFMKyle

by jch24 on Sep 13, 2008 10:25 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Dunn certainly turned into an above average guy

and well Patterson turned into, umm, Dusty Bakers son in law.

http://www.redsminorleagues.com and http://www.RedsPitchFX.com

by dougdirt on Sep 12, 2008 9:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

sup people.

www.crosleyfieldterrace.wordpress.com

by xjjeep90 on Sep 12, 2008 9:45 PM EDT   0 recs

This game is moving quickly so far

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 12, 2008 9:53 PM EDT   0 recs

lively thread tonight

so whuddaya say? Webb with the CG shutout? or just 8 innings?

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 12, 2008 9:55 PM EDT   0 recs

8 innings

there isn’t any reason to use him in a 10-0 game

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by xjjeep90 on Sep 12, 2008 9:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Harang looks good so far

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 12, 2008 10:01 PM EDT   0 recs

Can someone text NO to the text question of the night..

“Should the Reds re-sign David Weathers?”

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by xjjeep90 on Sep 12, 2008 10:04 PM EDT   0 recs

hi kids

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Sep 12, 2008 10:07 PM EDT   0 recs

Hi Caleb

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 12, 2008 10:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

my 9/20 ideal lineup

1) Castillo C
2) EE 1B
3) Votto LF
4) Bruce RF
5) Stubbs CF
6) Patterson SS
7) Arroyo 2B
8) Owings 3B
9) Danny Serafina P

I’d pay $37 for a ticket to that game!

by obc2 on Sep 12, 2008 10:07 PM EDT   0 recs

Pretty innovative.

Two decent pitchers in that lineup, neither of which are batting 9th and neither of which are pitching. You may be on to something here…

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 12, 2008 10:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

outside the box

im a visionary.

by obc2 on Sep 12, 2008 10:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The Rockies designated for assignment

today a pitcher the Reds should make every effort to acquire. Pedro Strop, 23, RHP. Could be a future closer. Has a 92-93 mph fastball, an impressive slider and a strong split. I’m amazed Colorado DFAd him when they activated Todd Helton.

Baseball America rated Strop, a former SS, as the Rockies’ No. 9 prospect after last season. The kid has a good, live arm. I’d love to see the Reds acquire him.

Carry on.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Sep 12, 2008 10:15 PM EDT   0 recs

DUNN

are you kidding me? is he taking ballet now?

by obc2 on Sep 12, 2008 10:16 PM EDT   0 recs

Dunner showing some impressive leather.

Sigh…

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 12, 2008 10:17 PM EDT   0 recs

I don't think I missed it above

but what happened to Cueto?

by bengalred on Sep 12, 2008 10:20 PM EDT   0 recs

I think it was a mistake on SBN and my part

I think Cueto is actually supposed to start on Sunday. SBN’s game preview module listed him as the starter and I didn’t double-check because they are usually right.

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 12, 2008 10:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Slyde took the blue pill

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
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by Man Mountain on Sep 12, 2008 10:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Got it.

I wondered, though, because I heard on 700 several times today that Cueto was the starter.

by bengalred on Sep 12, 2008 10:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

no reds.com was saying the same thing earlier

i dont know what happened.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 12, 2008 10:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

10 most efficient basestealers of all time

my fave 2 ballplayers are 2 and 3, which is weird b/c my steal percentage in HS was 0%. 0 for 0, lol, but i was never caught stealing! then again, i dont remember being on base often either…

1. Carlos Beltran, 270 steals, 37 caught, 87.3%
2. Tim Raines, 808 steals, 146 caught, 84.7%
3. Eric Davis, 349 steals, 66 caught, 84.1%
4. Willie Wilson, 668 steals, 134 caught, 83.3%
5. Barry Larkin, 379 steals, 77 caught, 83.1%
(tie) Tony Womack, 363 steals, 74 caught, 83.1%
7. Davey Lopes, 557 steals, 114 caught, 83.0%
8. Jimmy Rollins, 290 steals, 60 caught, 82.9%
9. Stan Javier, 246 steals, 51 caught, 82.8%
10. Carl Crawford, 302 steals, 64 caught, 82.5%

by obc2 on Sep 12, 2008 10:28 PM EDT   0 recs

#5 ain't too shabby either

A tie of two former Reds…what more could you ask for?

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 12, 2008 10:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

re-read what I wrote.

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 12, 2008 10:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

just popped into say that

“Olerud” by Cap’n’Jazz is a kick ass song tangentially related to baseball that all the right-thinking element should own.

doing the ickyPod shuffle tonight

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
Details at Sinful Savage Tigers

by Man Mountain on Sep 12, 2008 10:29 PM EDT   0 recs

Do they wear helmets when they play it?

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 12, 2008 10:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Is that on Analphabetapolothology?

If it is, somehow it didn’t make the cut to my iPod. I’ll have to check it out.

“Singer Songwriter” by Okkervil River is rocking my world tonight.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 12, 2008 10:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

re: cjazz

yeah, it’s a live track on the extended cut I ripped from the radio station in ’98 or ’99

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
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by Man Mountain on Sep 12, 2008 11:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

How's the game going?

Been reliving Jurasic Park with my grandson…still pretty fun

Just saw the box score who’da thuunk that Corey and Balo would 0-2 at this point in game

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Sep 12, 2008 10:40 PM EDT   0 recs

Pitcher's duel

So far Harang has been better. He’s only given up one hit, while Webb has given up two.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 12, 2008 10:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Corey Patterson

Lead Glove winner. Nice play, nonchalant. Stay classy, San Diego.

Bring up Stubbs.

by obc2 on Sep 12, 2008 10:42 PM EDT   0 recs

Slyde

Im ok with Dickerson starting in CF next season.

by obc2 on Sep 12, 2008 10:43 PM EDT   0 recs

GG: "Get 'em on, get 'em over, get 'em in"

Drink. Twice because it was about the D-Backs.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 12, 2008 10:43 PM EDT   0 recs

Ugh

how many Reds position players in tonight’s lineup are above average?!?

by obc2 on Sep 12, 2008 10:44 PM EDT   0 recs

Bruce, Votto, Edwin...yep

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 12, 2008 10:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think he's back.

He’s looking absolutely studly tonight.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 12, 2008 10:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

at this point

i’ll say Edwin is about average for a 3B. and Bruce is 21. so Votto.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 12, 2008 10:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Jeff Piecoro is the white Alfonso Ribeiro.

Discuss.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 12, 2008 10:54 PM EDT   0 recs

Further evidence:

Ribeiro
Piecoro

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 12, 2008 10:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

no way

even for a dead thread this is a stretch.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 12, 2008 11:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I implore you to reconsider next time they show Piecoro in the crowd

Video evidence is way more convincing than photo evidence in this case

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 12, 2008 11:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah.....looks like.......

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by xjjeep90 on Sep 12, 2008 10:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Dusty runs us out of the inning again

looks like a failed “bunt and run” because of the pitchout. thats some fine fuckin’ managin’ Mr. Baker.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 12, 2008 10:55 PM EDT   0 recs

Dusty hates Aaron Harang.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 12, 2008 10:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

you know what?

he’ll probably sit him down and address it. Walt will say “Dusty, these kids just arent good bunters. so let’s sign David Eckstein.” and Dusty will reply “oh yes i know the guy. he’s the white Corey Patterson. i love the idea.”

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 12, 2008 10:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Would Dusty trust his daughter with David Eckstein?

I know I wouldn’t.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 12, 2008 10:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

at least you know he cant impregnate her.

eunuchs have a hard time with that kinda stuff.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 12, 2008 11:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

do chicks dig scrappiness

like they dig the long ball?

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by xjjeep90 on Sep 12, 2008 11:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

There is complete and verifiable evidence that Women love the long ball

The longer the ball – the better. so fellows, don’t be a Masterbunter…go deep!

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Sep 12, 2008 11:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

chicks dig deep

scrappy doesnt matter, lol.

by obc2 on Sep 12, 2008 11:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

One unearned run

And it’s probably going to stand up.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 12, 2008 11:17 PM EDT   0 recs

have you seen the Reds lineup?

id say we need a turnover, or a kick return. maybe a fumble…

by obc2 on Sep 12, 2008 11:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That's what your Mom said

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Sep 12, 2008 11:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Welsh talking about how Dickerson should be in center

I swear this guy reads RR.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Sep 12, 2008 11:24 PM EDT   0 recs

respect the 'stache

AKA redsfan68 Nobody listens to Andrew

by nlt-andrew68 on Sep 12, 2008 11:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If he doesn't he'd better start...

only RR has the complete and verifiable evidence that Dusty Baker is too long in the tooth and too short between the ears to run a club of young stars in the modern era.

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Sep 12, 2008 11:26 PM EDT to parent up