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Wednesday evening open thread

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Question 1 of the night: Do these wins the last week mean anything to you in regards to next season?  Are you any more confident about next year?

Question 2 of the night: Is it more important to you to see the Reds win or to see the Reds play young players who might have an impact on the future (note: these are not mutually exclusive)?

Question 3 of the night: Are there any new TV shows this fall that you are looking forward to?  What show am I not watching that I should be watching (note: My show list right now is pretty much The Office, 30 Rock, Lost, and Chuck, with an occasional Prison Break)?

Sub-question: is it in fact unfair to criticize a formerly great artist for his latter day sins, is it better to burn out or fade away?

Any other questions?

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Phillips will have surgery

From CTR:

2B Brandon Phillips on Friday will have surgery during which a pin will be inserted into his right index finger so that it heals properly.

Phillips suffered the broken finger in last night’s game at Milwaukee when he was hit by a pitch on a bunt attempt. He was examined today in Cincinnati by Reds medical director Dr. Timothy Kremchek.

The surgery will be performed by Kremchek and hand specialist Dr. Andrew Markewicz.

Phillips will not play again the rest of this season.

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 10, 2008 7:36 PM EDT   0 recs

Question #2

what about watching the Reds lose because they continue to use their veterans?

The curious case of David Weathers. How is it that he can do what he did today repeatedly, and yet his era NEVER goes up?

by Brian B on Sep 10, 2008 7:41 PM EDT   0 recs

He paind his pitcher's witch dues up front

These wins have meant a lot to me. It shows that the young core of this team is very talented. And they all have high upsides.Despite the talent, I can’t get too excited about 09 ‘cause Dusty is sooooo bad, the coaches don’t seem to do much to help the guys improve, Walt and Bob really don’t seem to have any kind of understandable plan and did i mention dusty Baker and Fucking Clownboy.

I don’t think that this team will lose any more games by playing the young guys. they have drive and verve and are excited and want to prove themselves. I don’t mind an occasional Bako sighting…but no more Hobart, please and Kepp could take a 2 or 3 week break too

My fav TV shows are:
the Office
The McNeal LeHer REport
BBC News
And Bassmaster – fishing like the pros. only cause of the wife( see pic:).

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Sep 10, 2008 8:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Did anyone else see this from Dustbag?

From mlb.com:
“We had a real short bullpen today, especially with guys with experience,” Baker said. “I had a bunch of ’no’s’ on my lineup card.”

Yeah, thats right. He isn’t going to play these guys at all.

http://www.redsminorleagues.com and http://www.RedsPitchFX.com

by dougdirt on Sep 10, 2008 8:22 PM EDT   0 recs

sigh

crap.

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 10, 2008 8:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Great

If this abomination of a manger refuses to play our young guys and also continues to denigrate them publicly, we’re fucked in the offseason. Get ready for some veteran presence (with integrity, of course) Opening Day 2009

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Sep 10, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

New and Improved VP: Now with 30% more integrity in every bite!

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 10, 2008 8:46 PM EDT to parent up   1 recs

I spelled the hard one right

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Sep 10, 2008 10:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

spelling the hard one

STUNTCOCK!!

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
Details at Sinful Savage Tigers

by Man Mountain on Sep 11, 2008 10:02 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What what what?

Did he seriously say that today? After the “guys with experience” lost the game? Really?

by Brian B on Sep 10, 2008 10:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

we all remember what it was like under Jerry Narron right?

i remember the frustration and the anger so vividly. but it was nothing like this. this is so much worse. maybe because i feel like this team could actually go somewhere now and under Jerry it didnt really make much of a difference. i dont know exactly why, but im so much angrier with Dusty than i ever was with Jerry.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 10, 2008 10:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Because.....

The Reds are paying Baker like he is Tony LaRussa?
The Reds seem to think he is a good manager?
The Reds seem to think he is a good talent evaluator?
The guy has such a lack of common sense its not funny?

http://www.redsminorleagues.com and http://www.RedsPitchFX.com

by dougdirt on Sep 10, 2008 10:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

answers

yes
yes
yes
no; sometimes it makes me laugh. a little.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 10, 2008 11:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ahem

Fuck Dusty Baker.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 10, 2008 11:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What does that mean?

I assume the “no’s” are because they’re already overused or injured.

Are the kids on innings count or something?

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 11, 2008 7:03 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i assume his logic is this:

“for the integrity of races and the game”, he must field his best team against these Brewers. therefore, only players that were on the roster before callups, those with experience, can play. so all the rookies are automatically "NO"s. that also goes for the guys who have pitched too much lately, like Burton. in summary, Dusty is a butt.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 11, 2008 7:42 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I kinda doubt that

He said “especially guys with experience,” which suggests a lot of rookies were not no’s.

That is annoying enough, of course. But I can’t blame him for wanting to beat CC. It was the cover story on MLB.com for awhile: “Sabathia’s first loss as a Brewer?” Nope. Sigh.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Sep 11, 2008 7:53 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i took it as the other way

“we had alot of "no’s” in the bullpen" means that the young inexperienced guys had to be no’s. how could the bullpen be short with 4 otherwise fresh arms? why would Weathers pitch again for the third straight day if Roenicke were available? i dont think its pitch counts because they are relievers and they just havent thrown that many innings this year.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 11, 2008 8:04 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Agree

Consecutive day reliever usage has been one of Dusty’s weaknesses this year. It’s affected Cordero and may have contributed to Burton going on the DL. You can certainly question the prudence of throwing Weathers out there for the third game in a row after rosters have expanded.

by ken on Sep 11, 2008 8:08 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I assume this is a cleaned up version of a soundbyte

so it would be tough to know what Dusty actually meant. Is it more clear in the from MLB?

The expression that the modifying clause “especially…” is supposed to provide to the “shortness” of the Reds’ bullpen isn’t at all clear. I think you could reasonably take it either way.

Scrabbles, Dirt et al: The “shortness” of the Reds bullpen was due to the new players already having “no’s” by their names.

BubbaFan: The shortness of the Reds bullpen was due to experienced players being used up and therefore “no’s.”

Read in a vacuum, I would tend towards BF’s reading; considering what Dusty actually did…..

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
Details at Sinful Savage Tigers

by Man Mountain on Sep 11, 2008 10:30 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

go back to the library word nerd!

this is kinda what i was trying to get at, that in a logical world BubbaFan’s argument makes the most sense. but unfortunately this isnt a logical world and Dusty Baker is the Grand Inquisitor. sigh, and i was kind of excited to see what Roenicke and Herrera could do for us.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 11, 2008 10:48 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

TV

Slyde, did you catch up on It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia? A new season starts Sept 18.

Also Mad Men, Mad Men, Mad Men!

by Red Menace on Sep 10, 2008 8:29 PM EDT   0 recs

I bought the first season of Sunny on iTunes and then foolishly wiped my drive clean thinking it was somewhere else

I’m terrible about catching up on shows too. The only show that I’ve ever caught up on was Veronica Mars and the first season was the best, so I basically caught up for nothing.

I want to get into Mad Men, but I never watch AMC so I never know when it’s on, and now I feel like I need to catch up. That’s the same problem with Sunny. I just haven’t caught on to the cable television fad.

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 10, 2008 8:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hulu

I noticed all your picks were network shows. You’re living in the past, man!

Don’t worry about catching up with Sunny. Each episode more or less stands on it’s own. And I’ll second TheC’s call of hulu.com. It’s a great legal place to watch shows for free.

by Red Menace on Sep 10, 2008 11:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i just finished watching Hole in the Wall on hulu

its so much better than those dark ages when alluc was the best we could hope for.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 10, 2008 11:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I looked at hulu a while back for mad men

but they didn’t have full episodes of it for season 1. I think maybe I’ll rent & rip the dvds (or check the library). I don’t think I have anything on my Wednesday night schedule, so I’ll call that Mad Men night.

As for Sunny, I remembered this morning that I had watched a couple of episodes during their broadcast and my wife didn’t find them particularly funny. That might be a harder sell. It may just have to go into the DVR for watching when she’s busy.

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 11, 2008 8:46 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree with that

I watch Sunny when the wife is at class. She would not find it very funny. Of course, part of what I enjoy is seeing scenes around Philly as we lived there for five years and I’ve been to many of the places they show.

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Sep 11, 2008 1:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I've seen them film a couple times around town

Once at Rittenhouse Square. I do like catching glimpses of the city and the occasional local reference.

Easily the best comedy set in Philadelphia since Brotherly Love.

by ken on Sep 11, 2008 7:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll second Menace's recommendation of Mad Men

I haven’t been this engrossed in a show since The Wire‘s fourth season. It’s a bit of a soap opera but with very compelling characters and rich story lines. It’s on Sundays at 10 and 11. It would be helpful to catch up but the plot isn’t as demanding as The Wire, where you’d be completely lost without the background of all prior episodes.

Anyone else disappointed in the new 90210? A poor man’s OC so far.

by ken on Sep 11, 2008 8:05 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Haven't seen Mad Men, but I'll echo It's Always Sunny

That might be my favorite show right now. Oh, and of course a new season of Real World/Road Rules Challenge started. No teams, just everybody stranded on an island. They have to get to another island where $300,000 of treasure is. They keep stressing that there are no challenges, and yet they showed a lot of things that looked like challenges, and the word “Challenge” is in the name of the show. I love it.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 10, 2008 11:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I was going to say IASiP

That’s a pretty funny show. I don’t have cable, but have been watching all the episodes on hulu.com

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Sep 10, 2008 11:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

fox's hole in the wall is one i have been waiting on ...

human tetris on youtube is too funny

"I never use a big word when a diminutive one will work." — Pete Mackanin.

by joshuar9476 on Sep 10, 2008 8:38 PM EDT   0 recs

plus the old favorites of mythbusters, top gear, wipeout, amazing race, and the political coverage on msnbc

"I never use a big word when a diminutive one will work." — Pete Mackanin.

by joshuar9476 on Sep 10, 2008 9:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Sep 10, 2008 8:44 PM EDT   0 recs

you don't say

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Sep 10, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not loading?

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Sep 10, 2008 8:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Heh

His bat is corked.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 10, 2008 11:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

TV Shows

Mad Men is the best show on TV.
The Office
Heroes
Entourage

by Dave from Louisville on Sep 10, 2008 9:27 PM EDT   0 recs

Tell Sloan I said, "What up"

I was going to mention Entourage, but I figure now everyone is either on board or knows what it’s all about and isn’t buying. Pretty good season premiere last Sunday. The question is, did you Tivo Mad Men or Entourage?

by Red Menace on Sep 10, 2008 11:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i dunno

the entertainment rags were trying to make a big deal out of it

What's the ratio of Stanley Nickels to Schrute Bucks?

by chandrathan on Sep 10, 2008 11:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i never saw entourage

and i have no desire to

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 10, 2008 11:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ratings

I just remember an interview with Trey Parker and Matt Stone where they said they consider the first Wednesday night showing of a new South Park to be a commercial for the DVD to come. When they started the show the ratings on Wednesday night were everything, but Comedy Central could care less now. I would think HBO, not selling any commercial time, would be even more in that camp.

For the last season of The Wire the ratings nosedived (from their already low cruising altitude) because the new ep was available on demand throughout the week. I don’t know if the same thing is in effect for Entourage. Plus there was the first week of the NFL season and everyone is probably down of Vinny Chase after Medellin bombed.

by Red Menace on Sep 11, 2008 12:00 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Weeds

everyone should watch weeds…

also Californication is good

then:

How I met Your mother
the office
thirty rock
my name is earl
psych
curb your enthusiasm (not on yet)
pushing daisies
desperate housewives
big bang theory
 

that’s all i can think of right now…

i’ve not seen a preview for a new show that excites me.

Flamenco strikes back!! Return of Don!

by chandrathan on Sep 10, 2008 9:53 PM EDT   0 recs

you watch Desperate Houseboats?

yuck

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 10, 2008 10:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

watch dexter

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 10, 2008 9:55 PM EDT   0 recs

my wife and i started watching How I Met Your Mother

basically because ’tHan talked it up so much on here. so thanks for that buddy. its a pretty good show.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 10, 2008 10:30 PM EDT   0 recs

thanks...

but half the credit should go to brendan

Flamenco strikes back!! Return of Don!

by chandrathan on Sep 10, 2008 10:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Kids...

Let me tell you about the time your Uncle Scrabbles started watching our show.

by Brendanukkah on Sep 10, 2008 11:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

well then

thanks be to ’nukkah, for also talking up HIMYM. i like how Alyson Hanigan isnt even the sexiest chick on the show.

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 10, 2008 11:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I like HIMYM, too, and Alyson is a cutie.

Two and a Half Men makes me consistently laugh out loud. It’s as close to our old newsroom humor as anything I’ve seen. I like Dexter. I’m a warped fan of the Red Green Show reruns on PBS.

As for the Reds, I’m less confident about next year than I’ve ever been. That’s astonishing considering the young talent this franchise has. I just don’t see anyone who knows how to use and develop such talent at the MLB level. In fact, I’m very concerned that the offseason will result in the trading of many of the youngsters for a bunch of middling and over the hill veterans in a failed attempt to win now.

I’d love to see the young guys play, whether the Reds win down the stretch or not. Finishing fifth isn’t anything more to crow about than finishing sixth. If the record is worse, then the draft position is higher.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Sep 11, 2008 5:01 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Here are some links to pass the time tonight/tomorrow (all links pop)

Kaleidescope machine, fun stuff.

Has anyone ever seen Christian Bale and Kermit the Frog in the same place at the same time?

Sometimes red, sometimes blue (hit refresh a couple of times)

Ortega makes my taco pop!

Ever wanted to play the role of a pandemic? Here’s your chance!

Oh, and to answer the questions:

1) No. These wins are doing nothing more than screwing up draft position. I’m pretty confident the Cubs and Brewers are gonna make it, so the spoiler angle is overrated IMHO.

2) I want to see the young guys, no questions asked. Too bad I won’t get what I want because the manager’s a fucking idiot.

3) I don’t watch a lot of TV outside of sports and cartoons so I’m not the guy to ask.

Our problem this year has been offense and defense. -- MixFMKyle

by jch24 on Sep 10, 2008 10:52 PM EDT   0 recs

we can take this thing!

If we win at least 16 of our final 17 games, and all the right teams lose, we can still win the wild card!
RIOT Standings

Well, that was before we lost tonight. Probably that means we need 16 of our final 16.

by bbjones on Sep 10, 2008 11:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The Rockies did it

They had Affeldt and Fogg. We have Affeldt and Fogg. Hmm…

by Brendanukkah on Sep 10, 2008 11:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

never mind

Looks like “all the right teams losing” included the Brewers last night, so we got a 2-fer. We are now officially out of the post-season.

by bbjones on Sep 11, 2008 12:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

to pass the time

If you don’t mind clicking through to see 50 photos, this is a good one. 50 faces of Michael Jackson.

If you prefer youtube here’s the same concept done to a song that’s surprisingly smooth (with the help of Koko’s ghost).

by Red Menace on Sep 10, 2008 11:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

TV shows

Dexter (current favorite)
The Shield (final season!)
House
The Office
30 Rock
My Name is Earl
Heroes

Haven’t really looked at the new shows yet. Dunno if anything will be good.

You went full retard. No one ever comes back from that. - Sgt. Osiris

by cesarhernandez on Sep 11, 2008 12:38 AM EDT   0 recs

Oh yeah that Dexter guy is hilarious...I read the books first

Anyway – I’ve meditated for 5 straight hours( yes meditated. not been medicated) on whether it is better to burn out or fad away, Then it hit me…most burn outs do just fade away…could happen anytime now with Dusty McBuntmaster.

or maybe we could interest this guy in helping the cause –

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Sep 11, 2008 1:30 AM EDT   0 recs

book 3 was kinda awful

i am not sure if I am going to read book IV, but the children do intrigue me.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 11, 2008 4:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree about the third book

It just didn’t do it for me. That whole cult angle was dumb.

I am pumped for the third season of Dexter, though.

You went full retard. No one ever comes back from that. - Sgt. Osiris

by cesarhernandez on Sep 11, 2008 10:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i don't get showtime

so i watch it when it comes out on DVD, but I finished season II last week and it was good.

What did you think about the children in book three?

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 11, 2008 11:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The children were showing

demented tendencies like Dexter in book three, right? (It’s been a while since I read it, and I read a lot). That whole thing doesn’t really work for me because, while they both had some traumas in their childhood, their traumas shouldn’t make them anything at all like Dexter. His trauma was much greater and much more likely to screw him up.

Overall, I think the TV series surpasses the books, which is hard to do.

You went full retard. No one ever comes back from that. - Sgt. Osiris

by cesarhernandez on Sep 12, 2008 12:13 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

dexter was training the children

so yeah you got it.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Sep 12, 2008 10:09 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

hey Mads

did you check my trade proposal yet? games start Sunday you know…

"for integrity of races and the game" - Dusty Baker

by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 12, 2008 12:27 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs