Reds hire Bavasi... seriously

by cesarhernandez on Aug 8, 2008 5:02 PM EDT

The old boy network is alive and well. This really dampens my hopes for the future. Hiring this clown? Jeez. From Rob Butcher:

CINCINNATI - Cincinnati Reds President of Baseball Operations and General Manager Walt Jocketty today announced the hiring of former Anaheim Angels and Seattle Mariners general manager Bill Bavasi as a special assistant.

Bavasi, 50, will advise and assist Jocketty in matters related to the front office, Major League field and support personnel and scouting.

"We're excited Bill has joined our organization," Jocketty said. "Over his career of more than 30 years, he has worked in almost every facet of baseball operations. We will benefit from his experience and insights."

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FUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCKKKKK

I hope this is all just a bad dream and I wake up in a cold sweat soon.

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 8, 2008 5:10 PM EDT 0 recs

See this? This right here?

This does not inspire confidence.

by Brendanukkah on Aug 8, 2008 5:11 PM EDT 0 recs

Reds GM in waiting I bet

Does Bavasi take over in ‘09 or ‘10?

by cesarhernandez on Aug 8, 2008 5:13 PM EDT 0 recs

He's just a "consultant"

nothing to see here. move along.

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by xjjeep90 on Aug 8, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up 0 recs

maybe he's an unpaid intern

you know, needs to pick up some credit hours at SUNY-Donnybrook

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by Man Mountain on Aug 8, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up 0 recs

More likely

he’s doing archival research for his dissertation: We Ain’t No Last Place Team are We Pops: Poorly Ran Baseball Teams, 1999-2012. He figures he’ll be done with it around 2014 after he gets done rocking out.

by blandonseid on Aug 9, 2008 2:15 AM EDT up 0 recs

Google Results

Bill Bavasi Is an idiot = 4,490 results

Walt Jocketty is an idiot = 2,850

Wayne Krivsky is an idiot = 1,320

Just sayin’.

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 8, 2008 5:15 PM EDT 0 recs

Wayne Krivksy also had the shortest tenure as a GM of the three listed.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Aug 8, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up 0 recs

this team is impossible to like

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Aug 8, 2008 5:16 PM EDT 0 recs

FuckMeInTheAsshole!

by kennythered on Aug 8, 2008 5:17 PM EDT 0 recs

I didn't even know the M's had fired him

On the bright side, he was the Angels’ GM for much of the ‘90s. Without looking it up I would guess that he was responsible for a good chunk of their championship roster. Maybe he does fine here as a second banana.

by ken on Aug 8, 2008 5:19 PM EDT 0 recs

Gold

From his Wiki page:

“Forbes Magazine ranked Bavasi 87th out of 98 General Managers of professional sports with 3 or more years of experience in 2007”.

He was the lowest ranked baseball GM. Link here

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 8, 2008 5:22 PM EDT 0 recs

Okay

Any ranking that has Kevin McHale #1 and Billy King #3 is horribly flawed, but I stand behind my statement that Bavasi sucks.

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 8, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up 0 recs

You know how some guys

are tremendous assistant coaches but lousy head coaches? Let’s hope that’s the case here. That’s the absolute best I can take from this.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Aug 8, 2008 5:49 PM EDT 0 recs

Ok, I'll say it.

I miss you, Wayner. You win, world.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 8, 2008 5:52 PM EDT 0 recs

Other than Dan O'Brien, I don't know of any GM

with a less distinguished trade record than Bavasi. Reds fans will be glad to know, however, Bavasi has been involved with some names near and dear to our RR hearts. He traded for Quinton McCracken, Jason Ellison and Travis Chick, signed Jose Guillen, Rich Aurilia, Chris Reitsma and Eric Owens, and released Jolbert Cabrera.

This is a guy who traded Carlos Guillen for Juan Gone and Ramon Santiago. A guy who signed Richie Sexson and Jarrod Wasburn to four-year contracts. A guy who DFAd Greg Dobbs. A guy who signed Scott Spiezio. A guy who traded Matt Thornton for Joe Borchard. A guy who dealt Rafael Soriano for Horacio Ramirez. A guy Leather Pants conned into taking Jose Vidro and his lousy contract for a pair of minor leaguers. A guy who dealt Freddy Garcia for Miguel Olivo and a box of BP balls. This is the guy who pulled the trigger on a Bedard deal that Krivsky wouldn’t touch.

Looking at Bavasi’s trade history, I’m not sure he came out ahead on any deal. Is that possible?

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Aug 8, 2008 6:06 PM EDT 1 recs

From his Wiki page

He also traded Asdrubal Cabrera for Eduardo Perez; Shin-Soo Choo for Ben Broussard; and Randy Winn for Jesse Foppert (and Yorvit Torrealba). Can’t count any of those as wins, either.

His track record is even worse than I thought. Most of their decent younger talent (Felix, Putz, Lopez) signed before he came aboard.

by ken on Aug 9, 2008 12:50 PM EDT up 0 recs

my frustration level was pushing critical mass

this morning with the “Dusty has no confidence and is a coward” story. this just pushed me passed nuclear. im a Rays fan for the foreseeable future.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 8, 2008 6:36 PM EDT 0 recs

come over to draysbay then

andrew friedman is a genius and the reds gms the last about 7 years have been dee dee dees

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement. BJ UPTON IS NOT LAZY! ! ! Gabe Gross=caption clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Aug 13, 2008 1:01 AM EDT up 0 recs

Wow

How is it that this is the first time I’ve heard his name? I read a lot of baseball stuff. I knew Ol Chuckie Lamar was gone. Obviously I knew they were doing well. But I never for the life of me could have come up with the name Andrew Friedman. Attention must be paid.

by Red Menace on Aug 13, 2008 2:05 AM EDT up 0 recs

The Rays new ownership

brought in a couple of investment bankers to help run the team on the business and development side before Lamar left. Once he was canned Friedman was promoted to GM. (I can’t imaging the Reds doing anything that innovative)

Jonah Keri interview here

by ken on Aug 13, 2008 7:13 AM EDT up 0 recs

lamar was just an idiot

about the only good move that he made was trading victor zambrano for scott kazmir, i still cant believe that the mets made that trade

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. BJ UPTON IS NOT LAZY! ! ! Gabe Gross= clutch. David Price is the next big time pitcher.

by RaysOfHope on Aug 13, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up 0 recs

ya and he is only 30 yrs old as well

him, owner stu sternberg and matt silverman rebuilt this team all from within, they have developed some pitching prospects and just wait until wade davis and david price get called up, this wasnt the year they were supposed to contend, all of the fans were hopeing for .500, so just wait until next year they will be even more amazing

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. BJ UPTON IS NOT LAZY! ! ! Gabe Gross= clutch. David Price is the next big time pitcher.

by RaysOfHope on Aug 13, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up 0 recs

thanks for the invite

but what the hell am i gonna wear??

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 13, 2008 9:37 AM EDT up 0 recs

clothing optional

lol jk

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. BJ UPTON IS NOT LAZY! ! ! Gabe Gross= clutch. David Price is the next big time pitcher.

by RaysOfHope on Aug 13, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up 0 recs

Freedom in Florence, good cheap fun, easy to like and no BS

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Aug 8, 2008 7:19 PM EDT 0 recs

especially with owner who aren't going to prison

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Aug 8, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up 0 recs

reminds me of a scene from Blackadder II

in which Blackadder has taken off for the New World with a crazy sea captain who hasn’t hired any crew at all for the ship

Blackadder: I was under the impression that it’s common maritime practice for a ship to have a crew?
Captain Rum: Opinion is divided on the subject…everyone else says it is; I say it isn’t.

It would be common baseball practice not to hire people who are competent at the jobs they are asked to perform. The Reds say that opinion is divided on the subject.

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by Man Mountain on Aug 8, 2008 7:32 PM EDT 0 recs

Kill me.

I now root for an organization that employs both Dusty Baker and Bill Bavasi.

I mean, at least Dusty managed some decent teams. Based on results, you could be fooled into thinking that Baker was an adequate manager. Bill Bavasi sucks. Everybody knows Bill Bavasi sucks. I mean he had a payroll of $100 million-plus, and the worst fucking record in baseball. At least when I was bitching about Krivsky, I could console myself by saying “At least we don’t employ Bill Bavasi.”

Now, we employ Bill Bavasi.

And, just to ruin your day further, consider this: Walt Jocketty is 74, and probably won’t be around much longer. Bill Bavasi is now his “Special Assistant,” and he’s 50. When Jocketty retires….....

Like I said, kill me.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Aug 8, 2008 7:41 PM EDT 0 recs

Nah

In 1998 the Reds hired Bob Boone to be Special Assistant to Jim Bowden. He never became GM. You overreact.

All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."

by Slyde on Aug 8, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up 0 recs

When Jocko retires the Reds will have had 12 consecutive losing seasons

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Aug 8, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up 0 recs

Will Reds fans ever get to see better days?

I’m not real motivated by this move, but as long as he is Jocketty’s bitch then maybe things will be alright. I’m ready to let this season slide. Jocketty has inherited a mess. He has a manager and several players on the team I’m pretty sure he doesn’t want to have around. I’m dissappointed by this season at the way the owner is making management moves, but he has the GM he wants and hopefully in the offseason Jocketty (and hopefully with the help of Bavasi) can get this team back to seeing better days.

by NTH on Aug 9, 2008 6:02 AM EDT 0 recs

They hired this Fucktard????

I watched this moron run the worst front office in baseball for two years (05-07) when I lived in Seattle. It was fucking painful. Not only did they suck ass at $100 million plus a year but they were thoroughly unlikable. It was easy to hate the Mariners thanks to Bavasi. All I know about his time in Anaheim is when he left, they started winning World Series. This hire is downright scary. I’d rather have Bowden back than this guy. He’s that bad. Keep this website handy and hope we don’t need it:

http://firebillbavasi.blogspot.com/

by hooblus on Aug 9, 2008 7:47 AM EDT 0 recs