Game 137: Reds vs Giants
by Slyde on Aug 31, 2008 10:30 AM EDT
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Over his last 11 starts Arroyo has had a very clear pattern of 2 good starts followed by a mediocre/crappy one. He is coming off of consecutive starts where he's only given up one run, including the Reds first complete game on the season on Tuesday. Hopefully his recent trend won't continue as it'd be nice to see the team win 3 in a row, even if it is against the Giants rather than one of the front runners.
As for Arroyo, outside of three terrible starts where he didn't even give his team a chance, he's had a respectable season. I'm not suggesting that we eliminate those three starts from his evaluation. Just saying that I'd rather have a pitcher like Arroyo that sucks ginormously in just a few starts and pitches well the rest of the way than someone with the same numbers who is consistently giving up 4 to 6 runs every start. A pitcher like Arroyo can make for a very good 4th starter in next year's rotation.
Speaking of next year, a loss today or a win by the Cubs means that winning the division will officially have to wait until next year. I know some of you are still holding out hope.
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Was yesterday the least commented in season/gamethread having day in the sites history?
by chandrathan on Aug 31, 2008 10:39 AM EDT reply actions
nah
in 2005 we used to celebrate when we made it to 100 comments.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
yeah i should've said in the last couple of years
you know, since the site got cool
by chandrathan on Aug 31, 2008 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah i like to think
that ive had alot to do with that. i was called up last May, and since then it seems like the site has just clicked.
Dusty Baker is dumb.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 31, 2008 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I've always felt like it was pretty much your doing
Before you showed up we didn’t have an anchor, but now you are here weighing us down.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
lineup
Chris Dickerson LF
Jeff Keppinger SS
Joey Votto 1B
Edwin Encarnacion 3B
Jay Bruce RF
Jolbert Cabrera 2B
Corey Patterson CF
Paul Bako C
Bronson Arroyo RHP
No BP today. We all know how 26 year olds need days off just before an off day.
Also, this comes from Fay:
Today the Reds recalled from Class AAA Louisville C/IF/OF Wilkin Castillo (#26) and optioned to Class A Sarasota RHP Ramon Ramirez.
Castillo, 24, was acquired on 8/14 as a PTBNL in the 8/11 trade that sent OF Adam Dunn to Ari…in 115g at Class AAA Tucson and Louisville he combined to hit .248 and appeared in 54g at C, 5g at 2B, 48g at 3B, 6g at SS and 8g in LF…when he plays will be making his Major League debut.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
Damnit, BP is 27.
The off day makes sense then. He’s old.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
But thankfully Patterson can still start.
Why Castillo and not Rosales?
I think we overmeet as a society.
Rosales can't be called up for 10 days or until rosters expand
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
Actually, the lineup and note are courtesy of Shannon Russell
There you go giving a man credit for a woman’s work. This is why it’s time for Palin.
4 CATCHERS!!!1
good because you didn't
but i do have a red x
by chandrathan on Aug 31, 2008 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
They all look the same to me
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
what I meant to say was
I don’t see gender.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
that can cause problems...
just ask jch about that “girl” he met at the bar…
by chandrathan on Aug 31, 2008 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
HEY NOW
No need to attack a man when he’s not here to defend himself! :)
How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?
or attack a man when he's not here to defend herself
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Same thing happened with Monty Python
everybody knows that Sarah is Michael Palin’s younger sister…but who got the credit?
Michael…. not
SARAH (pictured front left).
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
BTW here's the possible next VP of the USA
Love those platforms, Bitch
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
Besides, BP's only hitting .100 in 10 AB versus Cain.
That is significant.
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
Baker is such a saber-manager
I wish he would manage the game more with his gut.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
I looked up Corey Patterson's OPS+ in my gut.
Instead of on bb-ref, and felt much better about him starting tonight
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
It probably doesn't matter
I bet he makes his next start for Cincinnati. Maybe there was a roster crunch in Louisville.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
if corey patterson keeps his soli\d hitting up
we’re going to have to find a way to get him back at the top of the lineup.
by chandrathan on Aug 31, 2008 11:27 AM EDT reply actions
I just want to see if Bako can pass Patterson!
Bako: .206/.277/.316 in 303 PAs
Patterson: .201/.237/.345 in 303 PAs
I think we overmeet as a society.
so they bring up Castillo
and Cabrera and Patterson and Bako are STILL starting? im srsly gonna freak out.
Dusty Baker is dumb.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 31, 2008 11:45 AM EDT reply actions
BA makes 9 mil.? and that's cool as a 4th starter?
Dunn was moved to get younger. 4th makes bailey money
if you can replace him for cheaper
I’d love to see it.
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
Arroyo is better than the typical 4th starter.
He’d probably be a 3rd starter on many teams, though maybe not many playoff teams. His salary doesn’t hurt since the Reds have two better pitchers making the league minimum next season. After years of having pitchers like Arroyo be the #2 or even #1, it sure is nice to call him a #4, isn’t it?
Arroyo is paid reasonably for his production compared to similar pitchers (regardless of rotation slot). I doubt you can find a free agent pitcher to replace his production for much cheaper. And the Reds don’t have anybody right now that is ready to replace him in the minors. Would it be such a bad thing if Arroyo was the 4th or 5th starter next season?
"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling
Yeah Bob and Walt..'re going to go with the young guys? Fuck you
No Hannigan
No BP
C Dick still in LF
And More Hobart.
ROOKIE CARD
VP this time of year is in the clubhouse/dugout (or on the campaign trail) Hobart should have been sent down and Rosales up with the big club getting valuable MLB experience.
I can almost hear Dustbrain’s Cayhunas slapping against Hobart’s chin about an hour before each game.
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
I haven't watched a game in a long time.
And I’d forgotten how frustrating Kepp is at short.
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
He'd be OK at 2B and Move BP to SS.
that would increase DPs and shore up the d-fense
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
Blasphemy!
That kind of talk can get you banished from Reds country for being too logical.
Phone's ringing, Dude.
Votto goes the other way - EdE walks
Bruce needs to be patient
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
Why did this game start so early?
And why can pitchers be replaced in the middle of an AB without injury?
www.crosleyfieldterrace.wordpress.com
Wow a Jaywalk!
Great Bases jammed for Hobart – Christ on a hubcap
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Dusty Baker
Hobart sucks the big one - KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
Grat now we get Corey w/bases jammed
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
Somehow, George, I don't think that what's different about these last two at bats is
Matt Cain.
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
I was hoping Dusty would make an example out of Patterson's lack of hustle last night
by chandrathan on Aug 31, 2008 12:58 PM EDT reply actions
He did
Dusty called his daughter and it was a cold night for Copat
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
so the example is
if you hustle you get to do dusty’s daughter
by chandrathan on Aug 31, 2008 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Or if you do Dusty ( a la Hobart ) you get to play
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
Unbelieveable that we had the bases loaded with 1 out and did not get a run.
Looks like Bronson’s heating up
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
BP would have had that dribbler
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
does a designated hitter have to bat in place of the pitcher?
or could the dh hit in the place of a light hitting center fielder?
by chandrathan on Aug 31, 2008 1:15 PM EDT reply actions
Cabrera, Patterson, Bako
Thanks, Reds, for making it even easier to ignore today’s game.
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However after seeing the Crappy ol' leftover in his straw hat, idon't feel like its a complete waste of time
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
Bronson with a stolen base! And Chris made me laugh!
He said Bronson should rip the base up, and take it into the dugout with him.
by chandrathan on Aug 31, 2008 1:23 PM EDT reply actions
Head first slide
yikes.
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by Man Mountain on Aug 31, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh.
Considering what we owe Bronson, I could skip him trying to steal bases
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
agreed
he looked fleet, though. got an outstanding jump.
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by Man Mountain on Aug 31, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
More fucking small ball...
SB – blooper and a double by Votto – Go "Ede
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
Bases Loaded for Jay Bruce!
Guarenteed Home run!
by chandrathan on Aug 31, 2008 1:26 PM EDT reply actions
JayBruce to hit A SALAMI -please
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
Two walks for bruce today
suck on that, slyde
by chandrathan on Aug 31, 2008 1:28 PM EDT reply actions
Fucking baseclogger
2nd time in a row for Hobart
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
Thanks Dusty - I'd rather have LLM at 2b
If you need to give BP a day off
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
Dunn would have caught that one easily
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
To make growing the grass out effective for us.
We’d need to get a couple groundball pitchers.
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
'than - is that you kid who's getting molested by Gapper in your avatar pic?
darling baby, cute as a button – but I’d keep an eye on gapper
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
How old is Cameron?
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
Oh man,
I hear being 8 months pregnant in July and August is a lot of fun, too.
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
You're in for a hot ride - She's a Leo
Love triumphs over all for this sign, which is ruled by the heart and operates from this dimension too. Leo’s are born fortunate. Charismatic and positive-thinking they attract not only an abundance of friends and opportunities, but manage to survive life’s stormy times with style and good humour.
She’s prepped to be high energy – Good luck (oh and she’ll grow up to beautiful as well)
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
today she is throwing up all over the place
but she is putting a lot of energy into it :-)
by chandrathan on Aug 31, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Patterson sinks back to the interstate
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
Votto 3 for 3 c'mon Edwin
ay
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
Bases Loaded for Bronson
BUNT ! Go for it B.
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
I like Bronson's chances over Bako & C-Pat
AKA redsfan68 Nobody listens to Andrew
by nlt-andrew68 on Aug 31, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Bonson delivers again!!!!!!
Fuck you Berry – way to kill a rally
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
BA is the new Adam
Put him in left field on his off days
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
Bronson is having a good day...
guess that’s why he’s the GM
by chandrathan on Aug 31, 2008 2:24 PM EDT reply actions
Sandolval is on the Prince Fielder diet!!!
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
Who died and made Jim Day a commentator? Mr. Obvious.
Meanwhile the Crappy ol’ Leftover is drifting through the crowd hobknobbing while we viewers miss crucial plays. love the marketing approach, Bob.
Good job Bronson
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
im not letting this game thread
end under 100 comments
how can we score 5 runs in a game without our best hitter Brandon Phillips?
Dusty Baker is dumb.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 31, 2008 2:31 PM EDT reply actions
Charlie - I think Bronson has filled the gap left by BP
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
I hope the Reds Players aren't nervous today playing in front of so many people
by chandrathan on Aug 31, 2008 2:33 PM EDT reply actions
This is the time of year in Redsland when they need some promotions:
Like a Marge Schott look-a-like night!
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Dusty Baker
Great Lakes Burning River
what’s everyone’s thoughts?
by chandrathan on Aug 31, 2008 2:34 PM EDT reply actions
decent
its noticeably better from the tap, but from the bottle i’d say its so-so. a little bitter, but still enjoyable. much better than that IPA crap.
Dusty Baker is dumb.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 31, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
ok
I went to the party town and bought some single bottles of different beers to try..
Great Lakes burning River is exactly as you say. I imagine it would be better from the tap. My bottle is quite bitter
by chandrathan on Aug 31, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
ok
I went to the party town and bought some single bottles of different beers to try..
Great Lakes burning River is exactly as you say. I imagine it would be better from the tap. My bottle is quite bitter.
by chandrathan on Aug 31, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
did you try their Dortmunder?
that and their Eliot Ness are the best they make.
i also just got a 6 pack of Columbus Brewery’s 90 shilling ale. pretty good stuff.
Dusty Baker is dumb.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 31, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
i did get the eliot ness
but not the dortmunder
by chandrathan on Aug 31, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh.
“Well, my husband’s a giants fan, and my favorite color’s orange, and I like their uniforms. and my husband’s a giants fan.”
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
yeah...
I expected a certain voice from her, and then when she talked it sounded like she was from the hills
by chandrathan on Aug 31, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm she looked and sounded just like she looked -Stuporific.
Great Hobart up again with RISP = and OUT
Dusty is a moron
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
EdE delivers...c'mon J - break loose and drill one!
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
I know BA's used to being out for a lot of pitches.
But it seems useless to keep him in, here.
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
anyone else have a problem with RR?
it was timing out for about 15 minutes or so.
Dusty Baker is dumb.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 31, 2008 3:07 PM EDT reply actions
yes,
redreporter died on me, and caused me to post a reply to you twice
by chandrathan on Aug 31, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I lost RR during the most exciting part of the gme too
I blame Dusty
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
Interesting that Votto was credited with a base hit...it sure looked catchable
I mean Adam Dunn would have caught it.
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
Gotta watch the grandkids...
Say did anybody notice that Patterson is 0 -5 ? couldn’t Andy Phillips play LF and C – Dick in center? How about that Bako 1 – 5…too rough for a young guy like Hannigan to play day after night before an off day?
Fuck you Dusty
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
C-Pat O for 5
swung at every pitch but the last one, which was right down the middle
AKA redsfan68 Nobody listens to Andrew
Pops I'd love to party but we gotta watch the grandkids
besides we see them pretty good in the ghetto
BOOOOOOOM
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
Whew what an exhausting afternoon...Chris Welsh and Jim Day should be put out to pasture.
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
if it were faith day
they would be put out to pastor
by chandrathan on Aug 31, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
* crickets chirping *
AKA redsfan68 Nobody listens to Andrew
by nlt-andrew68 on Aug 31, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
RR was down for most of the game
For me, anyway. There was a “Sorry, sports fans” technical difficulties graphic with SB Nation’s logo.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Dusty sticks up for son-in-law
w/r/t Corey’s baserunning error the other night, when Patterson failed to score because he didn’t run hard from third on a double play grounder to first. Dusty initially blamed Corey for not being alert, but sensibly retracted the criticism and blamed the inexperienced Giants’ first baseman:
Prior to Sunday’s game, Baker recanted his initial statement that Patterson wasn’t alert on the basepaths and offered this explanation: “A more accomplished first baseman would’ve stepped on first and thrown home,” Baker said. “That was an important run. I thought more about it afterwards. That’s why he stopped.”
I’ve read this twice and I still don’t understand why it was okay for Corey to stop.
Hal had the same thing on his blog
I commented and called out all the beat writers for not putting Dusty’s feet to the fire. Oddly enough, the comment got deleted.
The beat writers know they suck. They just don’t like being reminded. How come passionate people can’t be beat writers? Why do we get this parade of mediocrity?
Phone's ringing, Dude.
Mediocrity = Taking few risks = Overly conservatrive = Cincinnati = Dayton = Ohio
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
holy shit
fer serious?
i think the Defense Department needs to give Dusty Baker a phone call. he is so adept at melting brains im certain he is the wrong line of work.
Dusty Baker is dumb.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Sep 1, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
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