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Reds win! Reds win!

They finally did it.

Marty and Thom were harping on the fact that the Reds had not thrown a complete game all year, and how absurd that was, and how even the lowly Nationals had at least done that.

Now they can hush up.

Talk about that, or other things, in this edition of Reds Wrapup.

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How old are you ? Aren't you a married man!!! How old is Chelsea? How old is McCain and most importantly how fucking old is Hobart Cabrerra?

So I missed the game in favor of the convention. Looks like the game was a one. Love that Bronson.

This has got to be one of the coolest windups in baseball history….

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Aug 26, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mets

Why wouldn’t the Mets make a play for Arroyo? The way he’s been pitching (and underperforming his stat line all year) you’d think they should have been interested in him. John Maine was just lost for the year. Last year a depleted rotation cost them the playoffs. Pedro isn’t signed through next year and kids like Pelfrey and Heilman haven’t been panning out. It just seems like a good fit. Arroyo in front of an improved defense, in a pitcher’s park (for now, who know’s how Citi Field will play) in the spotlight of the big apple…

I don’t know. I guess I should be digging that one of our pitchers looks so good right now, but his contract extension still scares me. Did you know that the biggest Reds contracts moving forward (the first listed on Cot’s) are Cordero, Harang, Gonzalez and Arroyo? Talk about Krivsky’s team.

by Red Menace on Aug 27, 2008 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

I have to disagree on Pelfrey

He’s got a 3.70 ERA (against a 3.78 FIP), an ERA+ of 111, and he averages nearly 6.1 IP per start. Plus he’s thrown back-to-back complete games. He may not be a superstar, but I’d take him over Arroyo. I know that’s not what you are saying, but I wouldn’t dismiss a 24-year old pitcher with those numbers as not panning out. Plus he was born at Wright Patt, so he’s a “local boy” – even if he probably moved within 2 years of being born.

I’m more a hello man and a welcome man than a good-bye man. And to me Adam Dunn was more a person than a player.

by Slyde on Aug 27, 2008 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

duly noted

I have to admit I put very little thought into included Pelfrey. I just knew the Mets had some rotation troubles.

by Red Menace on Aug 28, 2008 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hillary really needs to be put to sleep

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Aug 27, 2008 12:29 AM EDT reply actions  

So...

…I gather you don’t agree with James Carville’s review of her speech:

“This is what a major league fastball looks like.”

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 27, 2008 6:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

James Carville talking LSU Football is even better. He had the biggest man crush on Jacob Hester I remember he some how brought Hester up on the first Meet the Press after Russert died.

Norris Hopper's #1 fan!!!

by Zach K on Aug 27, 2008 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Aug 27, 2008 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

James Carville is awesome

but he said something like

“That was a major league fastball, and she hit it out of the park”

He was all mixed up in what he was trying to say

by chandrathan on Aug 27, 2008 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was a Major League fastball

and she threw it for a touchdown!

I’m more a hello man and a welcome man than a good-bye man. And to me Adam Dunn was more a person than a player.

by Slyde on Aug 27, 2008 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was a major league fastball

and then she baked a cake!

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Aug 27, 2008 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It was shake and bake

and I helped!

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
Details at Sinful Savage Tigers

by Man Mountain on Aug 27, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm always amused...

…how how baseball jargon has penetrated the English language, even for people who don’t know squat about baseball.

Yesterday, everyone was saying Hillary “hit a grand slam.” I would bet half the people saying it weren’t exactly sure what a grand slam actually is.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 28, 2008 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep

Her speech was worth $5.99.

"You never want to give up a 7-0 lead, in your rival's ballpark, that would put them in first place. Never want to do that." - Ron Darling

by Slyde on Aug 28, 2008 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought

it had something to do with bridge.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 28, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody better tell

Dennis Kucinich that there’s no such thing as a football bat.

Overserved and underwhelmed.

by Pops Daniels on Aug 28, 2008 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

So I guess you're in favor of the death penalty then?

Seriously, I think Hillary’d make a pretty terrible, AND her actions in this campaign have been pretty annoying. But I’ve never really understood the overwhelming hate for her from what seems like most of the political spectrum.

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Aug 27, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

terrible president

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Aug 27, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get the hate either-

indifference is more my speed with her. Hate is reserved for that other convention right around the corner.

Overserved and underwhelmed.

by Pops Daniels on Aug 27, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

For many women around my age 50 - 65 the hate comes from:

Years of feeling like (and being) 2nd class citizens, getting lower pay than men for equal work, being constrained by corporate glass ceilings, fighting to get into the professional world and having to live up to a media barrage of looking thin and sexy. I don’t think they hate Obama so much as they see their own lives reflected in some ways by Hilary’s life. She was in Bill’s shadow for years, she worked for his goals, she got to be 1st lady but he was fucking the interns. She finally gets to be a Senator and a candidate for president but loses to a man, (again.) So for every dried up, bitter woman out there who’s getting broad and wrinkled, who;s lives have not been what they thought it ‘should’ have been…this a chance to vent, to be angry at especially men of my generation.
 I am not, never was, never will be Hilary fan. She isn’t a person who I think would be good to lead this country. I can think of several other women who I would consider voting for – but that’s irrelevant here. Power is a addicting drug and Bill and Hilary are addicted for sure. Hence she couldn’t give up…she got another fix last night…Hilary and those women who are angry and hateful are kind of pathetic in the final analysis. Instead of using this last campaign as a springboard to future opportunity, they’ve decided to whine. Christ on a GTO….

This pic is for ’than…

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Aug 27, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Madville

My vote isn’t going to matter one way or the other, so I’m going to do a write-in vote for Hillary.

by chandrathan on Aug 27, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dear 'than

Hi you may not know me,
My name is Chelsea
Fuck Mom
Vote for me

XXXOOO

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Aug 27, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hillary hate

Everything you write seems to be a good reason for women 50-65 to love Hillary. To paraphrase someone (Gloria Steinman?) every time a woman works hard to be in position to achieve something some cool man comes along and takes it.

Maybe my anecdotal evidence is skewed, but I thought women aged 50-65 loved Hillary and were down on Obama. That seems to be the narrative I’ve been getting from the media as well.

by Red Menace on Aug 28, 2008 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think older voters in general...

…are less than thrilled with Obama. He seems very young and inexperienced to them. Also, he was basically a one-issue candidate (the Iraq war), and now that that issue has faded, so has his support.

A lot of Hillary hate is from the wingnuts who hate her husband.

For the rest, the main objection (as displayed in this thread) seems to be that she’s not attractive enough. She’s 60 years old, but I guess they still want her to look like Paris Hilton or something.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 28, 2008 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dislike the "she's not attractive" thing

I personally find her to be ineffectual and therefore give her no support. It has nothing to do with her sex nor her husband whom I campaigned for in ‘92. She might as well be an old guard male Senator just grabbing for power at any cost. I regard her in the way that she should be, based on merit and my own intuition about her policy direction. I do not like her political methods but do not dislike her any more than say, Joe Biden. I really despise the Republican culture of fear and would have voted for her if she were the nominee. As for her appearance, I make jokes at her expense because I find it funny in this forum, but if she were attractive I think it would cost her some credibility as she would be seen as only getting by on her looks as well as her husband’s legacy. She’s damned if she do, and damned if she ugly.

Overserved and underwhelmed.

by Pops Daniels on Aug 28, 2008 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

for what it's worth

i don’t think she’s ugly. she looks pretty good for a 60 year old lady i’d say.

by chandrathan on Aug 28, 2008 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oddly

Hillary is probably more conventionally attractive now than she was when she was young. Judging from photos, she was one of those sixties feminist types who never cared about her looks. She was forced to when it started harming her husband’s career. (I bet she never imagined back then that her daughter would feel the need to have cosmetic surgery as a young adult.)

Hillary is my senator. I wasn’t thrilled with her at first, carpetbagger that she is. (Putting on a Yankees hat when everyone knew she was really a Cubs fan.) But she’s done a good job.

That said, I think she’s a psychopath. But then, I think all politicians are psychopaths. That includes McCain, Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Bush, all of ‘em. Normal people either wouldn’t want a job like that, or wouldn’t be able to do what you have to do to succeed in it.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 28, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I once overheard democrats talking about the race back this winter.

“Well, Obama tends to bicker.”
“Well, doesn’t Hillary do that too?”
“Of course she does, she’s a woman!”
“She used to be!”
HAR HAR HAR.

And, this was a group of female engineering students, who of course know nothing about trying to defy traditional gender roles.

Why is this an acceptable, and even somewhat common view of a political candidate? I just don’t understand this level of contempt.

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Aug 28, 2008 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

In my experience

Women tend to be incredibly cruel to other women. It would take way too long to get into the psychology of all of that but my wife is the boss of women and they all react to her entirely differently than they do with the men. There’s just a damn meanness to it.

Overserved and underwhelmed.

by Pops Daniels on Aug 28, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

People who wouldn’t dream about making similarly bigoted comments about race or religion still do it when it comes to gender.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 28, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Broads will be broads

Unless they’re skirts.

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 28, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is true

and i dont have a joke for it. its just not funny.

Dusty Baker is dumb.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 29, 2008 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

fff

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Aug 27, 2008 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Hilary should talk to Uncle Dusty:

“You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate. Most of the time feel like hitting you in the face with a shovel Hilary”.

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Aug 27, 2008 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

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