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Danny Dorn homered and was 3 for 4 in Chattanooga's 10-1 loss. Also, Neftali Soto homered and is up to a .321 BA (yes, he's only 19) in Dayton's 4-2 loss.

The Bats won again, the S-Reds won 7-0 and lost 3-0, the G-Reds suffered a pair of losses and Michael Konstanty was 2 for 4 in Billings' 13-3 loss.

So what gets you going at this point in the season for the Reds? It's obviously a lost year as far as the major league club is concerned, but there are some prospects who are prospering and the club seems interested in competing next season. Does anything in particular give you hope?

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John Perrotto's article doesn't necessarily give me hope

If true, it looks like the Reds aren’t really going to rebuild but, instead, try to make another kamikaze run at the “weak central.” I worry that that isn’t so much a “plan” as it is just winging it.

The Reds are not “a bat or two” away from contending. They don’t just need offense; they need time to develop. All the defensive woes aren’t going to miraculously be better by spring training. 2 of the 4 better offensive players will still be swinging at everything that comes near the plate.

What’s the point of paying CC a lot of money to pitch in front of the defense we saw yesterday? Or only get three runs of support?

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by Man Mountain on Aug 25, 2008 6:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Two quotes bother me

Baker: “I’ve always been used to having stability as a manager, both in San Francisco and Chicago. Obviously, there hasn’t been a whole lot of that this season. This team looks nothing like what we thought we had coming out of spring training, and many things have changed. I don’t see too many teams who have taken the hits we’ve taken this year.”

Really? Besides Harang, who has grossly underperformed expectations? Besides Gonzalez, what expected starter has missed significant time to injury? I’ll admit that I thought this team would be more competitive – though I still only predicted a 78-84 record – but it has always been an “everything must go right” type of team. I don’t know what kind of stability Baker expected when he saw the roster.

The other quote is: “Castellini did not bring in high-profile people like Jocketty and three-time NL Manager of the Year Baker just to rebuild, and he is expected to give Jocketty the directive to hit the free-agent market hard this upcoming winter.”

The ghost of Eric Milton lurks in sentences like this. I trust Jocketty more than the previous two GMs to find free agent help, but it’s a little frightening to think of the big contracts the Reds might tie themselves down to this off-season. Like MM said, this team isn’t a player or two away, but if they spend like they are the results could do more harm than good. I will do my best to give Jocketty the benefit of the doubt until he actually makes a move though.

I’m more a hello man and a welcome man than a good-bye man. And to me Adam Dunn was more a person than a player.

by Slyde on Aug 25, 2008 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

I guess it’s good news that Bob’s willing to open his wallet. And that Reds like their young core. I assume that means they won’t trade Votto, Bruce, Voltron, Cueto (or EE?).

But I fear they are on the wrong track. I think Walt & Dusty are dinosaurs. They may have had success in the past, but I don’t trust them with the Reds’ future.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 25, 2008 7:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My hope at this point

- Not over spending in a weak free agent market
- Francisco, Soto, Cozart
- Watching Volquez pitch

by D-Rock on Aug 25, 2008 9:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

my hope for the future

Cueto’s injured arm isnt a big deal. please God, make him ok.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 25, 2008 9:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You mean besides the Reds' logo onion?

Actually…. that’s it. That’s all I’ve got. I do like our rotation, but I don’t know how is going to score runs anymore. And this team just seems so fundamentally unsound on D, despite all the harping from four managers in a row.

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Aug 25, 2008 9:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

There's one big free-agent stick out there

he’s big, and hits lots of homers. I’ll give you two guesses who it is. Give up?

Overserved and underwhelmed.

by Pops Daniels on Aug 25, 2008 10:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

come on

“he’s big, and hits lots of homers”

no one? really??

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 25, 2008 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you shouldn't beg for recs

it’s unbecoming.

I’m more a hello man and a welcome man than a good-bye man. And to me Adam Dunn was more a person than a player.

by Slyde on Aug 25, 2008 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dont need to beg for recs

i have the recommended fanpost. suck on that!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 25, 2008 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

then why are you begging for recs?

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by Man Mountain on Aug 25, 2008 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I collect lozenges

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
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by Man Mountain on Aug 25, 2008 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

slow day at work

the Olympics are over. Days of Our Lives is awful. my dad never hugged me. lots of reasons really.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 25, 2008 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Barry Bonds?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 25, 2008 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dunn

Norris Hopper's #1 fan!!!

by Zach K on Aug 25, 2008 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rod Barajas would be a decent signing

He doesn’t walk much but he is a better offensive option then Bako/Valentin/Hannigan

I just looked at the Free Agent list for the first time and after CC and Teixeira it is a very weak class. Every decent player is in there mid thirties it seems.

If the Reds make a smart move this off season it will have to come through a trade.

Ryan Howard, Alex Rios and Matt Holiday are guys that have all been talked about in off season trade rumors for whatever that is worth.

Rios isn’t a guy I would give up a whole lot for because he doesn’t walk that much

Everyone knows that I love Holiday and he is having another great season

I would love to get Howard but he would be a more expensive Adam Dunn. Great Production but wouldn’t have the sexy RBI stat that Marty loves because we don’t have anyone that can get on base in front of him.

Norris Hopper's #1 fan!!!

by Zach K on Aug 25, 2008 10:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Where would you play Howard?

He can only play 1B, and even does that poorly. The Reds already have Votto, who’s exactly the kind of player you want to keep (and didn’t play LF very well when given the chance) and Alonso, who they just gave a bazillion dollars to.

So signing him would (1) make the defense much worse at one, and possibly 2, positions, and block one of the building blocks of the team. I’d rather they spent the money on Manny, and I really prefer they don’t sign him.

Often wrong, never uncertain.

by sidnancy on Aug 25, 2008 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good Point

What do you think about Holiday though?

Norris Hopper's #1 fan!!!

by Zach K on Aug 25, 2008 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he would be an expensive 1 year rental

for a team with little to no shot at contending next year.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 25, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had the same idea

Until someone here, much smarter than me, pointed out his home/road splits. Yikes.

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 25, 2008 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Madville pointed that out?

I’m more a hello man and a welcome man than a good-bye man. And to me Adam Dunn was more a person than a player.

by Slyde on Aug 25, 2008 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not I, it was shorty

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Aug 25, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apology

I said in a game thread a couple days ago that Clemson-Bama was Thursday night, but I got that game confused with NC State and South Carolina. Bama-Clemson is Saturday in the Georgia Dome.

For all of you who get your college football news strictly from major league baseball game threads.

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
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by Man Mountain on Aug 25, 2008 12:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm pumped for College Football

I will miss the Sunday Morning QB blog though

UC should have another solid year!

Norris Hopper's #1 fan!!!

by Zach K on Aug 25, 2008 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The #1 UGA Bulldogs

will indeed hunker down this here season.

Overserved and underwhelmed.

by Pops Daniels on Aug 25, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no need to miss Sunday Morning QB

He is now Doc Saturday, and he is now here!

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Aug 25, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why do all these southern teams play neutral site games?

And by this I mean that Bama-Clemson game (which could be a one off) and the annual Florida-Georgia game, which some think is one of the best rivalries, yet contains the phrase “Cocktail Party” to describe a football game.

by Brendanukkah on Aug 25, 2008 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That cocktail party thing is 'cause

no one who attends remembers the game. It is stupid though, I’ll give you that.

Overserved and underwhelmed.

by Pops Daniels on Aug 25, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't give a damn what they call it

The year I went it was fun as fuck

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
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by Man Mountain on Aug 25, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still though

A well-timed, well-placed meteor could rid the world of UGA Football, Tim Tebow, AND Jacksonville. Would anybody really be opposed to that?

by Brendanukkah on Aug 25, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Surprising

I felt that you, of all people, would see the horror in wiping out 1/4 of the world’s most beautiful and drunk women in one fell swoop.

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
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by Man Mountain on Aug 25, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's still Australia

And the accents aren’t as silly.

by Brendanukkah on Aug 25, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose the paired lateral vaginae

is a nice feature for choosy bestialists like yourself.

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
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by Man Mountain on Aug 25, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

those don't exist

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by Man Mountain on Aug 25, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

rec'd

for implied chandrathan insult.

I’m more a hello man and a welcome man than a good-bye man. And to me Adam Dunn was more a person than a player.

by Slyde on Aug 25, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does that mean I have to stop being a Reds fan?

please?

I’m more a hello man and a welcome man than a good-bye man. And to me Adam Dunn was more a person than a player.

by Slyde on Aug 25, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no

it means i’m gonna rub deodorant on your forehead.

by chandrathan on Aug 25, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brendan might prefer screwing the cow...to that

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Aug 25, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two reasons

1. Clemson-Bama game will have the feel of the Peach Bowl and make an incredible amount of money. The largest, most devoted fanbase in the ACC meeting probably that in the SEC. Easy driving distance for both programs.

2. It’s easier to get both Alabama and Clemson to agree to a neutral site game than to do a home and home.

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
Details at Sinful Savage Tigers

by Man Mountain on Aug 25, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey slyde you out there????

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Aug 25, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, he's out there all right....

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 25, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I knew I worded that wrong

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Aug 25, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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