An abbreviated Farmers Only
Danny Dorn homered and was 3 for 4 in Chattanooga's 10-1 loss. Also, Neftali Soto homered and is up to a .321 BA (yes, he's only 19) in Dayton's 4-2 loss.
The Bats won again, the S-Reds won 7-0 and lost 3-0, the G-Reds suffered a pair of losses and Michael Konstanty was 2 for 4 in Billings' 13-3 loss.
So what gets you going at this point in the season for the Reds? It's obviously a lost year as far as the major league club is concerned, but there are some prospects who are prospering and the club seems interested in competing next season. Does anything in particular give you hope?
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John Perrotto's article doesn't necessarily give me hope
If true, it looks like the Reds aren’t really going to rebuild but, instead, try to make another kamikaze run at the “weak central.” I worry that that isn’t so much a “plan” as it is just winging it.
The Reds are not “a bat or two” away from contending. They don’t just need offense; they need time to develop. All the defensive woes aren’t going to miraculously be better by spring training. 2 of the 4 better offensive players will still be swinging at everything that comes near the plate.
What’s the point of paying CC a lot of money to pitch in front of the defense we saw yesterday? Or only get three runs of support?
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by Man Mountain on
Aug 25, 2008 6:56 AM EDT
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Two quotes bother me
Baker: “I’ve always been used to having stability as a manager, both in San Francisco and Chicago. Obviously, there hasn’t been a whole lot of that this season. This team looks nothing like what we thought we had coming out of spring training, and many things have changed. I don’t see too many teams who have taken the hits we’ve taken this year.”
Really? Besides Harang, who has grossly underperformed expectations? Besides Gonzalez, what expected starter has missed significant time to injury? I’ll admit that I thought this team would be more competitive – though I still only predicted a 78-84 record – but it has always been an “everything must go right” type of team. I don’t know what kind of stability Baker expected when he saw the roster.
The other quote is: “Castellini did not bring in high-profile people like Jocketty and three-time NL Manager of the Year Baker just to rebuild, and he is expected to give Jocketty the directive to hit the free-agent market hard this upcoming winter.”
The ghost of Eric Milton lurks in sentences like this. I trust Jocketty more than the previous two GMs to find free agent help, but it’s a little frightening to think of the big contracts the Reds might tie themselves down to this off-season. Like MM said, this team isn’t a player or two away, but if they spend like they are the results could do more harm than good. I will do my best to give Jocketty the benefit of the doubt until he actually makes a move though.
I’m more a hello man and a welcome man than a good-bye man. And to me Adam Dunn was more a person than a player.
by Slyde on
Aug 25, 2008 7:24 AM EDT
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Well...
I guess it’s good news that Bob’s willing to open his wallet. And that Reds like their young core. I assume that means they won’t trade Votto, Bruce, Voltron, Cueto (or EE?).
But I fear they are on the wrong track. I think Walt & Dusty are dinosaurs. They may have had success in the past, but I don’t trust them with the Reds’ future.
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by BubbaFan on
Aug 25, 2008 7:35 AM EDT
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My hope at this point
- Not over spending in a weak free agent market
- Francisco, Soto, Cozart
- Watching Volquez pitch
by D-Rock on
Aug 25, 2008 9:24 AM EDT
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my hope for the future
Cueto’s injured arm isnt a big deal. please God, make him ok.
by Charlie Scrabbles on
Aug 25, 2008 9:27 AM EDT
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You mean besides the Reds' logo onion?
Actually…. that’s it. That’s all I’ve got. I do like our rotation, but I don’t know how is going to score runs anymore. And this team just seems so fundamentally unsound on D, despite all the harping from four managers in a row.
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by TheC on
Aug 25, 2008 9:28 AM EDT
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There's one big free-agent stick out there
he’s big, and hits lots of homers. I’ll give you two guesses who it is. Give up?
Overserved and underwhelmed.
by Pops Daniels on
Aug 25, 2008 10:10 AM EDT
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come on
“he’s big, and hits lots of homers”
no one? really??
by Charlie Scrabbles on
Aug 25, 2008 11:41 AM EDT
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you shouldn't beg for recs
it’s unbecoming.
I’m more a hello man and a welcome man than a good-bye man. And to me Adam Dunn was more a person than a player.
by Slyde on
Aug 25, 2008 11:43 AM EDT
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i dont need to beg for recs
i have the recommended fanpost. suck on that!
by Charlie Scrabbles on
Aug 25, 2008 12:03 PM EDT
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then why are you begging for recs?
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by Man Mountain on
Aug 25, 2008 12:11 PM EDT
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He doesn't need to
It’s just his hobby.
by Brendanukkah on
Aug 25, 2008 12:13 PM EDT
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I collect lozenges
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by Man Mountain on
Aug 25, 2008 12:34 PM EDT
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slow day at work
the Olympics are over. Days of Our Lives is awful. my dad never hugged me. lots of reasons really.
by Charlie Scrabbles on
Aug 25, 2008 12:34 PM EDT
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Barry Bonds?
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on
Aug 25, 2008 10:55 AM EDT
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Rod Barajas would be a decent signing
He doesn’t walk much but he is a better offensive option then Bako/Valentin/Hannigan
I just looked at the Free Agent list for the first time and after CC and Teixeira it is a very weak class. Every decent player is in there mid thirties it seems.
If the Reds make a smart move this off season it will have to come through a trade.
Ryan Howard, Alex Rios and Matt Holiday are guys that have all been talked about in off season trade rumors for whatever that is worth.
Rios isn’t a guy I would give up a whole lot for because he doesn’t walk that much
Everyone knows that I love Holiday and he is having another great season
I would love to get Howard but he would be a more expensive Adam Dunn. Great Production but wouldn’t have the sexy RBI stat that Marty loves because we don’t have anyone that can get on base in front of him.
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by Zach K on
Aug 25, 2008 10:58 AM EDT
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Where would you play Howard?
He can only play 1B, and even does that poorly. The Reds already have Votto, who’s exactly the kind of player you want to keep (and didn’t play LF very well when given the chance) and Alonso, who they just gave a bazillion dollars to.
So signing him would (1) make the defense much worse at one, and possibly 2, positions, and block one of the building blocks of the team. I’d rather they spent the money on Manny, and I really prefer they don’t sign him.
Often wrong, never uncertain.
by sidnancy on
Aug 25, 2008 11:30 AM EDT
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Good Point
What do you think about Holiday though?
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by Zach K on
Aug 25, 2008 12:45 PM EDT
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he would be an expensive 1 year rental
for a team with little to no shot at contending next year.
by Charlie Scrabbles on
Aug 25, 2008 12:47 PM EDT
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I had the same idea
Until someone here, much smarter than me, pointed out his home/road splits. Yikes.
How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?
by jch24 on
Aug 25, 2008 1:18 PM EDT
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Madville pointed that out?
I’m more a hello man and a welcome man than a good-bye man. And to me Adam Dunn was more a person than a player.
by Slyde on
Aug 25, 2008 1:19 PM EDT
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your sig is funnier if you change "Opinions" to "Onions"
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on
Aug 25, 2008 1:59 PM EDT
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it wouldn't make sense
everyone knows that onions are like ogres
by chandrathan on
Aug 25, 2008 4:18 PM EDT
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Not I, it was shorty
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
by Madville on
Aug 25, 2008 3:09 PM EDT
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Apology
I said in a game thread a couple days ago that Clemson-Bama was Thursday night, but I got that game confused with NC State and South Carolina. Bama-Clemson is Saturday in the Georgia Dome.
For all of you who get your college football news strictly from major league baseball game threads.
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by Man Mountain on
Aug 25, 2008 12:32 PM EDT
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that would be me
i’m a lot less excited about the south carolina game…
but i’ll still watch it!
by chandrathan on
Aug 25, 2008 12:34 PM EDT
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your exclamation point belies your dampened excitement
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by Man Mountain on
Aug 25, 2008 12:36 PM EDT
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I'm pumped for College Football
I will miss the Sunday Morning QB blog though
UC should have another solid year!
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by Zach K on
Aug 25, 2008 12:44 PM EDT
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The #1 UGA Bulldogs
will indeed hunker down this here season.
Overserved and underwhelmed.
by Pops Daniels on
Aug 25, 2008 2:23 PM EDT
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no need to miss Sunday Morning QB
He is now Doc Saturday, and he is now here!
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
by Cy Schourek on
Aug 25, 2008 5:13 PM EDT
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Why do all these southern teams play neutral site games?
And by this I mean that Bama-Clemson game (which could be a one off) and the annual Florida-Georgia game, which some think is one of the best rivalries, yet contains the phrase “Cocktail Party” to describe a football game.
by Brendanukkah on
Aug 25, 2008 12:44 PM EDT
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That cocktail party thing is 'cause
no one who attends remembers the game. It is stupid though, I’ll give you that.
Overserved and underwhelmed.
by Pops Daniels on
Aug 25, 2008 2:25 PM EDT
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I don't give a damn what they call it
The year I went it was fun as fuck
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by Man Mountain on
Aug 25, 2008 2:31 PM EDT
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Still though
A well-timed, well-placed meteor could rid the world of UGA Football, Tim Tebow, AND Jacksonville. Would anybody really be opposed to that?
by Brendanukkah on
Aug 25, 2008 2:37 PM EDT
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Surprising
I felt that you, of all people, would see the horror in wiping out 1/4 of the world’s most beautiful and drunk women in one fell swoop.
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by Man Mountain on
Aug 25, 2008 2:39 PM EDT
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There's still Australia
And the accents aren’t as silly.

by Brendanukkah on
Aug 25, 2008 2:45 PM EDT
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I suppose the paired lateral vaginae
is a nice feature for choosy bestialists like yourself.
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by Man Mountain on
Aug 25, 2008 2:50 PM EDT
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those don't exist
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by Man Mountain on
Aug 25, 2008 3:01 PM EDT
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Darren McFadden is raising his own crop
by Brendanukkah on
Aug 25, 2008 3:02 PM EDT
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This coming from the guy whose sig line talks about noses that are too big
by Brendanukkah on
Aug 25, 2008 3:36 PM EDT
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rec'd
for implied chandrathan insult.
I’m more a hello man and a welcome man than a good-bye man. And to me Adam Dunn was more a person than a player.
by Slyde on
Aug 25, 2008 3:38 PM EDT
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you keep it up, and i'm gonna ban you
by chandrathan on
Aug 25, 2008 3:43 PM EDT
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Does that mean I have to stop being a Reds fan?
please?
I’m more a hello man and a welcome man than a good-bye man. And to me Adam Dunn was more a person than a player.
by Slyde on
Aug 25, 2008 3:45 PM EDT
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no
it means i’m gonna rub deodorant on your forehead.
by chandrathan on
Aug 25, 2008 3:51 PM EDT
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Brendan might prefer screwing the cow...to that
You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker
by Madville on
Aug 25, 2008 3:11 PM EDT
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Two reasons
1. Clemson-Bama game will have the feel of the Peach Bowl and make an incredible amount of money. The largest, most devoted fanbase in the ACC meeting probably that in the SEC. Easy driving distance for both programs.
2. It’s easier to get both Alabama and Clemson to agree to a neutral site game than to do a home and home.
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by Man Mountain on
Aug 25, 2008 2:37 PM EDT
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hey slyde you out there????
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
by Caleb on
Aug 25, 2008 9:44 PM EDT
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Oh, he's out there all right....
How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?
by jch24 on
Aug 25, 2008 9:57 PM EDT
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I knew I worded that wrong
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
by Caleb on
Aug 25, 2008 10:20 PM EDT
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