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The Speedwagon That Thought It Was a GM

From Hal McCoy's article in Chicago yesterday, Bronson sat down to play bullpen GM for a few minutes.

Relevant graphs:

 

And Arroyo has a plan on how to make the Reds competitive next year, plus he didn’t need to send a babbling letter that makes little sense.

Here’s his plan. And it ain’t half-bad.

“The pitching staff is solid enough to win plenty of ballgames,” he said. “We really need a starting catcher — unless they are going to go with Ryan Hanigan and I haven’t seen him enough. We need a solid guy you can run out there five days a week, a guy who can hit a little bit, a regular guy instead of dividing it up between a couple of guys.

“We’re going to need two other guys who can hit, probably outfielders,” Arroyo said. “Our infield is decently set if (shortstop) Alex Gonzalez comes back. So we need a couple of outfielders to replace those home runs we lost (Adam Dunn, Ken Griffey Jr.).

“We just need a lineup, from top to bottom, that feels the same when we pitch against the other team’s lineup, so we don’t have as many weaks spots.” Arroyo added. “I mean, with the Cubs I’m facing a seven-hole hitter like Mark DeRosa, who hits .280. That’s the feeling we need to project to other teams.”

DeRosa had two of the three hits Arroyo gave up over seven innings Wednesday in a 2-1 win. And Hanigan was Arroyo’s catcher, contributing a double that led to the Reds tying the game, 1-1, in the sixth.

“We have enough right now in our starting staff and bullpen to win this division, for sure,” Arroyo said.

 

Some thoughts:

First of all, you've got to like that Arroyo went on record with his ideas -- whether you agree with him or not. You hardly ever see a baseball player willing to talk shop about personnel because of the subsequent hurt feelings in the clubhouse. Big ups there.

Also, coupled with his earlier statements about wanting to stay with the Reds, Arroyo does seem have more than a soundbite's interest in bringing a winning team to Cincinnati. I'm not sure why, but there it is.

As to his "plan" itself, I find it interesting for a few reasons.

1. He understands that the catching-by-committee experiment is a huge problem and is aware that Hanigan is an unknown quantity. No mention of Bako or LLM. (sour grapes over his boy Ross being let go?).

2. His Alex Gonzalez comment suggests that he knows Keppinger's defense is unacceptable at SS.

3. He frames the loss of Dunn and Griffey in terms of home run power rather than overall offensive value.

Nothing groundbreaking, but, as Hal points out in the article, it's more specific than anything that's come from the Reds' FO.

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FWIW: The Denver Post is reporting that the Rockies might be looking to move Willy Tavares this off-season. He's fast, has zero power and doesn't seem terribly interested in walking; in short, he's everything Dusty loves in a son-in-law. Ironically, the Rockies have apparently expressed an interest in Arroyo more than once this season.

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Your 2009 Reds opening day outfield!

In left… Chris Dickerson!!!!!
In right… Willy Tavares!!!!!!!
And back by popular demand, your starting center fielder…
Corey Patterson!!!!!!

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Aug 22, 2008 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Thank god Ross is off the team

That’s a dropped baton for sure.

by Brendanukkah on Aug 22, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

So Rec'd

Good play.

Hey, if I had some place to go I certainly wouldn't be in 'Cleve-Land'. -H.T.Duck

by snohio on Aug 25, 2008 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your 2008 Cincinnati Reds,

only 4 players from contention, according to our #4 pitcher!

Big ups to BroYo for going on record. But, um, we need help. Bad.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Aug 22, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

For the record...

Corey Patterson is not Dusty’s son-in-law. He is Dusty’s butt-buddy.

Please be sure to not get confused about this.

Thanks.

Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.

by Paul Householder on Aug 22, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I like Bronson's plan. It really is sound. although he made no mention of the bench or the pen.

But a regular catcher with an everyday lineup it right on the money.
However, Walt will probably think that this is none of Bronson’s business and trade him in September.

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Aug 23, 2008 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like our bench

if we actually plug the holes at short, catcher, and in the outfield. A bench of Freel/Keppinger/Dickerson/Rosales/second catcher? That’s not bad.

But I think it’s looking pretty safe at this point that we’re not going to pick up two outfielders, and we’ll be looking at a Dickerson/somebody else platoon at one of the positions. Also, odds are good that the one we do pick up will be “speedy,” not the power hitter we need.

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Aug 23, 2008 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

You forgot Norris Hopper, Gray

he is a jedi-buntmaster

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Aug 23, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is he really coming back?

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Aug 23, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Supposedly.

TJ surgery is a lot less difficult to return from for a position player that a pitcher. IMO he doesn’t bring too much to the table when looking at the team’s serious need for a RH Clobberer in the OF. But he’s Walt and Dusty’s kind of small ball kind of guy.

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Aug 23, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Denorfia

came back from TJ surgery.

He didn’t hit very well and has been stuck in the minors all season, but I’m not sure we can blame the surgery for that.

Hey, maybe they’ll trade him back to us…

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 23, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is a Dustbrain kind of guy...

Speedy
Good glove
Scrappy
Probably can bunt
Swings early in the count
Attempts to steal a base when there are o outs and a strong hitter is at bat
Friendly, obedient, kind and brave to the kiddie fans
AND can barely hit his weight
And has a low OPS, OBP

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Aug 23, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

I don’t think that’s really irony…

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Aug 23, 2008 12:40 PM EDT reply actions  

The sentence overtaxes the modifier

but if Arroyo were traded to the Rockies in order to get one of the outfielder he’s clamoring for, it would fit rather nicely into the modern definition of cosmic irony.

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by Man Mountain on Aug 23, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

ive always thought that the ultimate irony

would be a bunch of guys with wrinkled shirts working at an iron factory.

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Aug 23, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bronson is On Something....

"We have enough right now in our starting staff and bullpen to win this division, for sure,"

Right, and that’s why we’re in last place. The starting staff good enough? We’re 13th in the league in ERA, almost worst in the league in home runs surrendered (and on pace to give up over 200 again this year), and have one starting pitcher with an ERA below league average. Oh, yes, your high priced closer has blown 6 saves and walks almost five batters per 9 innings pitched.

And with the current team you think can beat out the Cubs and Brewers, well, you’d be deluded to think this Dunn-less offense can win the division.

And Bronson, you’re part of the problem. In between your concerts and CD, never mind your hijinks with the opposite sex, you have an ERA+ of 85, which is your worst performance since your rookie year. Let’s see how many more games you win without the offense we traded away (you know, the one you think will magically re-appear and be replaced).

by tonywf on Aug 24, 2008 2:53 AM EDT reply actions  

for what it's worth

BaseballHQ (Ron Shandler’s outfit) thinks Bronson’s ERA is a victim of bad luck. His fielding-independent stats are not nearly as bad, and (if I recall) batters had an absurdly high BABIP against him in the first half of the season. Shandler says pick him up on the cheap, because he’s better than that.

Not that I think he’s Peavy or anything, but maybe its not as bad as it seems.

Which means, of course, that Jocketty will trade him for peanuts.

“Buy what? I thought it was buy high, sell low!”

by bbjones on Aug 26, 2008 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Sea Bass

Does anyone really think Sea Bass is going to be any good after a year and a half off? I sure hope the Reds had him insured for this season.

Hey, if I had some place to go I certainly wouldn't be in 'Cleve-Land'. -H.T.Duck

by snohio on Aug 25, 2008 10:30 AM EDT reply actions  

As I recall

Every contract is insured, but insurance only kicks in if the player misses the entire season.

I’m more a hello man and a welcome man than a good-bye man. And to me Adam Dunn was more a person than a player.

by Slyde on Aug 25, 2008 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looking like it..

That is looking like it will be the case, isn’t it? Still on the 60 day DL and haven’t heard any word..

What was his contract again?

Sept 6th - Duffers Open - http://duffersopen.org/ - Play some golf with your fellow RRs.

by snohio on Aug 25, 2008 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too much

For too long. A Krivsky delight.

Overserved and underwhelmed.

by Pops Daniels on Aug 26, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

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