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Worst season ever by a Red?

On the heels of their "each franchise's greatest player" poll, ESPN.com is doing a "worst individual season for each franchise" poll.

LINK (pops)

Their suggestions:

Paul Householder, RF, 1982 (.211/.265/.326, 9 HR, 34 RBI in 417 at-bats): Granted, 1982 was not the hitter's paradise we have come to know baseball to be since, but when a corner outfielder gets on base just 120 times in 455 tries, it's not too surprising when his team loses 101 games.
Eric Milton, P, 2005 (8-15, 6.47 ERA, 186.1 IP, 237 H, 40 HR): It was Milton's misfortune to spend the years 2004 and 2005 playing his home games in two ballparks that are the least friendly to fly-ball pitchers: Citizens Bank Park in Philadelphia and Great American Ball Park in Cincinnati. Except that of the 83 home runs he gave up in those two seasons, 42 came on the road. Opponents had a slugging percentage of .543 against him, the worst in Reds history going back to the very day the fee was paid to start the franchise.
Bobby Tolan, CF/RF, 1973 (.206/.251/.304, 9 HR, 51 RBI in 457 at-bats): An outfielder with an OPS of .555 will attract some attention in a poll like this. Once a good player (two 100-run seasons), Tolan's power had greatly diminished in 1972 and never really returned before his retirement in 1979. His walk rate also declined, leaving very little to recommend him to start. That, of course, made him an ideal candidate for the San Diego Padres of that woeful vintage, who traded for him that winter.


Tolan's a pretty strong candidate IMHO, but my question to my fellow Red Reporters is this - who did they miss? What's the worst individual season by a Red you guys can remember?

Poll
Worst?
Householder
8 votes
Milton
10 votes
Tolan
2 votes
boobs
23 votes

43 votes | Poll has closed

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For those of you wondering

how Corey P. Centerfield’s 2008 doesn’t make this list, don’t worry, he’s already on the Cubs list.

That’s right RRs, our favorite team signed one of the 3 worst players in the entire 100+ year history of the Cubs (who haven’t won anything in 100 years), and they’re starting him in centerfield every day.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 20, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wait

No fucking way CP had a worse season than this with the Cuns. For recent memory, Gary Majewski’s 1/3 season after the trade was pretty damn terrible.

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Aug 20, 2008 5:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

that's only a fraction of a season

For bad relievers with a full season of work, I’d look at:

Rob Dibble’s last season as a Red. 19 saves in 45 games, but a 6.48 ERA and 42 walks in 41 2/3 IP to go with 49 Ks.

In 1984, Tom Hume went 4-13 with a 5.64 ERA in 54 games (8 starts) and 113 1/3IP.

by LooseCannon on Aug 20, 2008 6:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rec'd for Cuns

That is too perfect. I’m rolling.

Overserved and underwhelmed.

by Pops Daniels on Aug 21, 2008 10:25 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

never forget

he also lead off 30 games. And had 145 PAs as a lead off hitter

Never. Forget.

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by Man Mountain on Aug 20, 2008 5:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I missed that

I was busy checking out the Reds, hadn’t gotten to the other teams yet.

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 20, 2008 6:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Co Pat

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Aug 20, 2008 5:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ni9ck Esaky had a terrible year 1994

114 times on base and a BA of .194 He managed to last 7 years in the majors.

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Aug 20, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Patterson

On the one hand, his 46 OPS+ blows away anyone else mentioned here (Tolan’s next best at 57). His SB% this year isn’t any better than Tolan, either (and only marginally better than Householder). On the other, he is much more valuable defensively, and (depending on what happens) may not get as many PAs as any of these guys, and has time to raise his numbers at least a bit.

Really, though, he should at least be on the list.

Often wrong, never uncertain.

by sidnancy on Aug 20, 2008 6:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tommy Helms 1970

237 /.262 /.282 44 OPS+. Didn’t walk and had no speed as a bonus. Good thing the rest of the team was stellar

Have screwball. Will pitch for food and the major league minimum.

by Seattle Slim on Aug 20, 2008 6:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

.195/.229/.342 8 HR 21 RBI 257 ABs

so far for The Blemish. that’s right down there with Tolan’s and Householder’s numbers, but he mostly likely wont get the same ABs (though he’ll probably get close). Patterson definitely should be on this list, especially because, as MM reminds us, he led off for 30 games.

oh, and Milton was awful. just awful.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 20, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But at 186+ innings . . . he's an innings eater! Like Josh Fogg!

Who can we get next year to be THAT BAD for THAT MANY INNINGS? (Because apparently, that’s the definition of an “innings eater”)

by Brian B on Aug 20, 2008 11:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And a bargain at $3.5M

Also the keystone to the criticisms of Dusty when he says he can’t win with Krivsky’s guys.

Seeing Paul Householder on the list makes me wonder if someone on Red Reporter will have the handle “Corey Patterson” in 20 years. To me, that is worse than SkyNet.

by Brendanukkah on Aug 21, 2008 12:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He'll be posting first for the next 15 games

I’m more a hello man and a welcome man than a good-bye man. And to me Adam Dunn was more a person than a player.

by Slyde on Aug 21, 2008 1:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Or he may come in as a late-inning defensive replacement...

In a close game and then wind up making the final post as the Reds lose.

Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.

by Paul Householder on Aug 22, 2008 1:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I resemble that remark.

Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.

by Paul Householder on Aug 22, 2008 1:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I voted for boobs.

Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.

by Paul Householder on Aug 21, 2008 4:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You always vote for boobs

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Aug 22, 2008 5:32 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This time, self-interestedly, however.

Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.

by Paul Householder on Aug 22, 2008 1:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well it is hard to say

Patterson as well all figure will get more playing time the rest of the season so he might turn in a better season then the players listed.

I hope this is not the case because I don’t want the Reds to have any BS reason to resign him. For Example {He hit .285 in his last 20 games and is a great defensive CFer and ONLY 29!}

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by Zach K on Aug 22, 2008 11:23 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shhhhh.....

Dammit they may quote you……

I'm the only winner on this team. The rest of 'em, they're losers. Either by choice, or by birth.

by Willie Mays Hayes on Aug 22, 2008 4:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You'd think that, wouldn't you?

I mean, how long can a guy hit that poorly? He has to come out of it; just has to, right?

Take a look. Since June 17, when a 1-5 game dropped his OPS to .572, it hasn’t been above .579, nor below .538. I’m starting to think that he may be able to continue this level of ineptitude through the end of the year, making him the worst Red ever.

Often wrong, never uncertain.

by sidnancy on Aug 24, 2008 6:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ryan Dempster, 2003

….6.54 ERA, 63 ERA+, and opposing batters had an .852 OPS. Interesting to see how he turned himself around as a starter this year in Chicago.

Naturally, there is Corey Patterson, as mentioned here, who is probably the worst position player with this much playing time I’ve seen in Cincy since Todd Benzinger.

I remember Paul Householder, though. One of the biggest busts of a prospect I’ve ever seen. Great fielder, but a right handed hitter that insisted on switch hitting (killing his career). He did look like George Brett in the face, and was a fellow native of my hometown of Columbus.

by tonywf on Aug 24, 2008 2:26 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hated Dumpster.

I still do because he is a lot better now and playing for the Cuns. I really hate all pitchers who come here, suck balls and then go on to have a good career..

Hey, if I had some place to go I certainly wouldn't be in 'Cleve-Land'. -H.T.Duck

by snohio on Aug 24, 2008 6:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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