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Cincinnati Reds at Chicago Cubs, Aug 19, 2008 8:05 PM EDT



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Cincinnati Reds
@ Chicago Cubs

Tuesday, Aug 19, 2008, 8:05 PM EDT
Wrigley Field

Johnny Cueto vs Rich Harden

Mostly clear. Winds blowing in from center field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 80.

 

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W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2008 - Johnny Cueto 8-11 4.90 1.39 136 53



W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2008 - Rich Harden 2-1 1.80 1.09 49 14


Firefox has crashed three times now while I've tried to type this up, so no analysis or witticisms, just the game thread.  GusBellsTaint would be proud.

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Are we still doing firsts?

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Aug 19, 2008 6:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FISTS !

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Aug 19, 2008 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what on earth did you do to firefox?

I think we overmeet as a society.

by Gray on Aug 19, 2008 6:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

First...

sub-100 comment game thread of the year!

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Aug 19, 2008 7:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn, you may be right

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no way

it’s only the third inning and we are almost to forty comments…

by chandrathan on Aug 19, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Proud Taint"

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 7:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

"Elephantitis of the scrotum"

Yeeesh

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Aug 19, 2008 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man Mountain wins the first prelim in the competition for the Pops Daniel cup award !

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Aug 19, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be around in spirit

BOO!

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i'll do my part

this is my comment for the night.

oh and whoever suggested to google “this shit is bananas” (im sure it was Pops) needs to get their mouth washed out.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 19, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That was me

I’ll be happy to do so as long as they’re not ahead of me at the sink.

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh it was you huh?

my wife was looking over my shoulder when i clicked that. thank you.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 19, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mrs. Scrabbles, I'm sorry

I’m sorry your husband is such a sick SOB to be browsing the pr0n while pretending it’s related to his favorite baseball team. :)

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my personal preference is for Lux,

I found that Palmolive had a nice, piquant after-dinner flavor – heavy, but with a touch of mellow smoothness. Life Buoy, on the other hand… YECCHH!

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by xjjeep90 on Aug 19, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we always got Dove when i was kid

that 1/4 moisturizer really coats the tongue. my father was a bit of a sadist like that.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 19, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um... This is a quite depressing tidbit from Mark Sheldon's mailbag
The Reds will have money to spend if they want to raise their payroll. In terms of 2009, the combined $25 million for Griffey and Dunn will be off the books, but it doesn’t mean the payroll is shrinking or there is an influx of fresh cash to spend. Closer Francisco Cordero will go from $8.5 million to $12 million. Aaron Harang goes from $6.75 to $11 million. Alex Gonzalez goes from $4.6 to $5.375 million. Bronson Arroyo moves from nearly $6.5 to $9.5 million. Brandon Phillips increases from $2.75 to $4.75 million and Ryan Freel ups from $3 to $4 million.

That’s six players that will make a combined $46.625 million

link

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by chesirecat on Aug 19, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2009 is Krivsky's fault

don’t you know that?

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by xjjeep90 on Aug 19, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Regardless we're fucked with these retarded contracts

But hey, look at the positives! Harang’s 3-13 season this year is only 2.25 million per win, next year it would be almost 4 million a win!

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Aug 19, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and sitting in rehab if he continues to make starts this season

unless they shut him down

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by xjjeep90 on Aug 19, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is in the best interest of RR that I too remain off the thread...

I vaguely remember the last time…..something about screwing the cow?

Go Reds – whoever you are now

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Aug 19, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lineup

Dickerson LF
Kepp SS
Bruce RF
Phillips 2B
Votto 1B
Encarnacion 3B
Patterson CF
Bako C
Cueto P

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 19, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Votto was away last week because his father died

link

i think i speak for all of us here at RR when i extend my deepest sympathy to Joey and the entire Votto family.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 19, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn, that's a tough blow.

I figured it was something like that when he asked to keep it private. Condolences to the Vottos.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 19, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah he could not have been that old

the article does not say anything, most likely at Joey’s request, but it does say it was “sudden”. and he has to get back to work after only a week. i dont know if i could do that.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 19, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe enough time has passed (but probably not)

but Mr. Votto didn’t take a Greyhound, did he?

by Brendanukkah on Aug 20, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nope, sorry.

too soon. too soon man.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 21, 2008 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

what a terribly sad time for him.

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TIme to root like hell for Joey

we’re almost the same age, I can’t imagine losing my dad…

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Aug 19, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TIme to root like hell for Joey

we’re almost the same age, I can’t imagine losing my dad…

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Aug 19, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Joe Votto was only 52 years old.

His obituary is online here. (You can post a condolence message for his family.)

The family is asking for donations to Renascent in lieu of flowers. (I think that’s a charity that helps people struggling with alcohol and drug addiction.)

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 20, 2008 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, I'm watching the game!

(At least until gymnastics comes on.) Go Cueto go!

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 19, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't care how far the Reds are out of it

I hate the Cubs. I hate hate the Cubs.

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

EdE looks ticked

just a little.

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by xjjeep90 on Aug 19, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Horseshit strike 3 call

horseshit

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

take that ramirez!

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by xjjeep90 on Aug 19, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we're on a mission!

100 comments or less!

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Aug 19, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"fewer"

(ducks!)

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nerd!

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Aug 19, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

more like "asshole"

and so terribly, terribly petty.

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My dad's a lit teacher

I get that crap all the time

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by chesirecat on Aug 19, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ssssshhhhh

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ironic that they give GG the night off when we face Edmonds.

Somebody’s been reading RR…

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 19, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Reds may set a record for strike outs tonight

It’s very clear the coaches don’t read scouting reports and don’t bother telling the players anything about pitchers they’re facing for the first time.

by Brian B on Aug 19, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Please God

don’t let the Reds get no hit by the Cubs. I don’t have enough valuable things left in my apartment to smash.

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

perfect game so far

(trying to jix it)

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by xjjeep90 on Aug 19, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I picked up some food from arby's on the way home

just like the last few times i’ve gone there, there is some kinda white powder on the bun of my roast beefs. has anyone else noticed this, or can you tell me what it is/what its purpose is?

by chandrathan on Aug 19, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not flour?

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

neither do I

as I eat fast food every day now, that weird shit keeps me away from Arby’s

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Aug 19, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh snap, Cueto!

Way to pick off Sori!

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 19, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Suffer Da Rosa

I have Something Against You

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

10 outs, 6 Ks!!!

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by chesirecat on Aug 19, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

perfecto and no hitter GONE!

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by xjjeep90 on Aug 19, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kepp!

excitement, adventure, the Reds fan craves not these things.

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Suck It, Edmonds!

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Johnny KKKKueto!

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by chesirecat on Aug 19, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So this is what defense looks like

…and offense

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love how Cubs fans still boo Copatt

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by xjjeep90 on Aug 19, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They should cheer

It’s a one or two pitch out every time

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by chesirecat on Aug 19, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

...and we find out why

giving the opposing catcher a triple

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by xjjeep90 on Aug 19, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

COREY WHEN THE BALL HITS YOU IN THE GODDAMN GLOVE CATCH IT

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 19, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Brantely and Marty

are praising Corey for almost making the play. We know what would happen if that happened to Dunn.

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by xjjeep90 on Aug 19, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In all fairness, it was a good attempt

the wind looks crazy tonight.

But Bruce really hasn’t looked good in the outfield IMO. Terrible throw

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He did get a great jump

and did a good job at closing towards the ball, but when the ball hits the heel of your glove, you need to fucking catch it.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 19, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Common Cueto...

finish off this great game you have going

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 19, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't able to get my computer turned on fast enough to comment

after Corey hacked at the first pitch to end the last inning.

Then he throw his body at the ball instead of catching the damn thing, and Bob Brenly blames Bruce after Corey’s “nice effort.”

I’m so sick of this Patterson shit.

by Brian B on Aug 19, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just so no one forgets

Let’s put Corey back in perspective.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/sotd/archives/732

There. He’s even worse than he seems.

by Brian B on Aug 19, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Suck it, De Rosa

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Uh what happened.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 19, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

stepped a little funny

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah yes

Ede my new favorite player on the Reds

by Reynard on Aug 19, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Of course he is.

Menace pointed it out in the last thread, that the Dunn-bashers go straight to bashing EdE as soon as Dunn gets traded. You’re living proof.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 19, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Im living proof

Because before that was pointed out I said I dont like Ede when I wrote the post to begin with, he is talented, just so damn inconsistent

by Reynard on Aug 19, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Len Kasper: "Great baserunning by Soto"

Fuck you. He should have OUT but we can’t throw or catch.

by Brian B on Aug 19, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

When you look back the guy at 3rd

Arent you supposed to actually look back at him? But Marty blames Bako?

by Reynard on Aug 19, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bako was pointing to 1st all the way

"I never use a big word when a diminutive one will work." — Pete Mackanin.

by joshuar9476 on Aug 19, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Veteran presence, my ass.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 19, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kasper will not shut up about how great Soto's baserunning was . . .

He’s a slow catcher, he should not have been playing that half way down the line on the bunt. He should never have made it.

by Brian B on Aug 19, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh, I hate cheering for this team.

That’s half on EdE for not checking the runner and half on Bako for pointing to first.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 19, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

was kepp even covering 3rd?

need to see a replay

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck the heck is Troy Aikman doing in the booth with Thom and Chris?

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by BK on Aug 19, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Trying to figure out why he's not at the Bears game?

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coming

out of the closet finally, just to keep ratings up

by Reynard on Aug 19, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hahahaha

Sorry the Bengals will suck this year

by Reynard on Aug 19, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're not wrong

But I’m really starting to not like you.

by Brendanukkah on Aug 20, 2008 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Prediction: Dusty sends Quickerson

ASAP

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1 sir

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by xjjeep90 on Aug 19, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

(he was out)

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought so too

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by xjjeep90 on Aug 19, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dunn

could have done that

by Reynard on Aug 19, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Welp

whether you bat .230 and gets walks or hit .300 and steal to second it doesnt matter, because its a team sport and our team sucks

by Reynard on Aug 19, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You've got to move beyond batting average

it’s baseball bell bottoms

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

#100!

cheshirecat was wrong!

(I’ll be trademarking this new twist on the first! craze, BTW.)

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll have you know

that my name is misspelled

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Aug 19, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sonofa.....

My bad. I’ve had some issues with reading lately for some reason.

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 19, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean

I misspelled it to begin with:) so no offense taken

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by chesirecat on Aug 19, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Keppinger

That was NOT a swing on strike three to Kepp. Fukodome had a bigger swing than that in the previous inning on a pitch that was called a ball, and he actually RAN through the strikezone with the bat straight out.

by Brian B on Aug 19, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I also feel like the Reds are getting squeezed a bit

but I am not sure I’m looking beyond my bias.

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bruce's plate discipline

He just really not going to work counts is he?

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

STOP SWINGING AT FASTBALLS OUT OF THE STRIKEZONE!!!!!

AND STOP SWINGING AT THE FIRST PITCH!!!!!!!

STOP LISTENING TO YOUR IDIOT COACHES!!!!!!

by Brian B on Aug 19, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2 fucking hits

that is all.

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by xjjeep90 on Aug 19, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Seven innings, 10 Ks, and only 94 pitches for Harden

Rich Harden has no business being that efficient. This only shows that pitch counts often have more to do with the batters than it has to do with the guy on the mound.

by Brian B on Aug 19, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kueto

Still steady rollin’

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A Standing "O"

for the righty from San Pedro de Macorís, Dominican Republic. He may lose tonight, but he’s gonna be a damn good pitcher

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by chesirecat on Aug 19, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nothing to be ashamed of tonight

The only problem was that they were extra base hits. 2 BB and 2 HBP

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by xjjeep90 on Aug 19, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, upon seeing the replay

Keppinger is just as at fault for the run scoring than EdE is. He was standing over by 2nd for some reason, instead of covering 3rd when EdE charged the bunt.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 19, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The problem was

Ed E never looked back.

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by xjjeep90 on Aug 19, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

when you're running into field a bunt

you’re listening to your catcher to quarterback the play. I’m not sure what Bako was yelling, but he pointed at 1b.

It will be interesting to hear about this post-game, if the press even bothers to ask about such things anymore.

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Naturally, EdE is blamed
The lone run to score against Cueto was preventable. With one out, Harden dropped a safety squeeze bunt to third baseman Edwin Encarnacion. Not appearing to have an eye on Geovany Soto at third base, Encarnacion threw to first base for the out. Soto, who kept even with Encarnacion and drifted down the line, broke for home on the throw. He scored ahead of Joey Votto’s desperation heave home, which got away for an error that moved Kosuke Fukudome to third base.

“I just told the whole infield to be aware of the safety squeeze,” Baker said. “That was a perfect situation for it. I don’t know if he heard me. That runner on third base is far more important than the one going down to first. You have to learn from it. Soto executed it perfectly. He went at the right time. Votto had no chance of throwing him out.”

Encarnacion maintained that he snuck a peek at Soto before throwing the ball.

“I looked behind my shoulder but he was frozen and didn’t move. I went to first,” Encarnacion said.

Reds.com

No mention of Bako. And Baker more or less blames Encarnacion for not heeding to his directions.

Similar comments from Erardi, who calls it “Baseball 101” to look the runner back. Honestly, I wasn’t aware that the catchers are supposed to direct traffic in these situations.

by ken on Aug 20, 2008 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was going on my high school ball experience

so it probably doesn’t mean much, but…

When we had a guy on first and third and a bunt came up the third base line that made it necessary for the third baseman to charge the ball, the catcher was supposed to tell him whether the runner on third was holding or whether he was down the line. This because the catcher has all the action in front of him and is in the best position to make the call. If the runner at third was holding or slow and the runner going to first was quick, you wouldn’t want to waste time with a look back.

I watched the play happen and one replay right afterwards and here were/are my thoughts:

1. Edwin did not look at the runner
2. Bako was pointing at 1b.
3. Soto was not even with Edwin but behind him
4. If Edwin had stopped his momentum and looked back at Soto, I doubt he has a chance to get the runner at 1b.
5. Soto had no reason to lean back towards 3b because Keppinger wasn’t there.
6. Votto’s throw was horrible, but Bako was in a bad position to try to make a tag on the runner anyway.
7. There would have been no runner on third if Corey Patterson hadn’t had a fly ball bounce off of his wrist.
8. Edwin is gone.

I may be wrong on these events events, but that’s what I thought I saw.

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by Man Mountain on Aug 20, 2008 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope, you're not wrong, that's exactly what happened.

Keppinger sucks at playing shortstop, Bako and his veteranness should have done a better job of leading the play, and Edwin should have looked at the runner. Just sucks that Edwin takes all the heat from everybody for it. He should start running out to his position and telling everyone how much of a baseball guy he is, just as a precautionary measure.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 20, 2008 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this was my assessment of the play as well

Bako was pointing EdE to 1B the whole way. i was taught that the catcher is in charge on plays like that as well. EdE did exactly what he was supposed to do, and he knows it and Bako sure as shit knows it. Baker doesnt have a clue of course and EdE gets the shaft from the media (and the fans) for it. drop another quarter in the swear jar.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 20, 2008 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man, Votto has a shit arm.

He almost throws one into left field here in the 8th, and he should have had Soto at the plate back in the 5th.

by Brian B on Aug 19, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Derek Lee 3R HR

feeling it

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

derrek

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's 2-0, but I'm ready to start pulling for the Cubs to start piling on.

Otherwise, Dusty will try to turn this into a positive.

Good, it’s 3-0 now. POUR IT ON!

by Brian B on Aug 19, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck you Reds

Fuck you. I hate this team. Why can’t I have grown up a Columbus Clippers fan?

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by chesirecat on Aug 19, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neither Thom or Chris has ever heard of Rainn Wilson.

Unbelievable.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 19, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, here comes

the rain again.

I’m telling you, I have forgotten what it is like for this team to be good. ’99 seems like such a long friggin time ago.

"I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball" - Pete Rose

by Officer Dibble on Aug 19, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it was actually

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well it kinda was...

Bill Clinton was President

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by chesirecat on Aug 19, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

but I don’t need to be reminded how old I am. Really.

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by Officer Dibble on Aug 19, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When did Votto incur the error?

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by xjjeep90 on Aug 19, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that was scored a fielder's choice

apparently i missed it earlier in the game

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by xjjeep90 on Aug 19, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it wasn't a throwing error?

I guess that makes sense

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looking at Gameday

It was on the Rich Harden bunt in the 5th

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by xjjeep90 on Aug 19, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think one throw was necessarily better than the other

the Reds actually had a more legit shot at Soriano

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funny thing is

I’m not even pissed off about the ’pen’s implosion to rant about it.

Just feels like we’re marking time until the end of the season just to see what the hell next year can bring. And that is a sad place to be in, particularly in August.

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by Officer Dibble on Aug 19, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I wouldn’t be here if i wasn’t at work. Sad times to be a Reds fan

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by chesirecat on Aug 19, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In other news

Must be fun to be a Rays fan now

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by chesirecat on Aug 19, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

mebbe so

but I’m still rooting for a White Sox – D’Backs series, if for no other reason to hear tHommy go on and friggin on about how AWESOME Arizona is.

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by Officer Dibble on Aug 19, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Finally the 9th!

And our leadoff hitter hacks at the first pitch over his head.

by Brian B on Aug 19, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Like it matters?

Just shufflin the deck chairs on the Hindenburg.

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by Officer Dibble on Aug 19, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So what is the Reds Magic Number

for futility?

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by Officer Dibble on Aug 19, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

-10?

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by BK on Aug 19, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Over/Under 25.5 games

out of first place at the end of the season?

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by xjjeep90 on Aug 19, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Please

33 Games out of First. Mark it down

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by chesirecat on Aug 19, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please

33 Games out of First. Mark it down

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by chesirecat on Aug 19, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jay, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

Stop swinging at that pitch in your eyes. You cannot hit it. You know you cannot hit it it because you swing at it in every at bat and have NEVER hit it. Please try to lay off next time.

Or would a letter from your owner help you remember? Nah, forget it.

by Brian B on Aug 19, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay, for the last two hours, I was the only one posting.

I just left and came back to this page and now all of your comments appeared.

Can we go back to the old RR site? This one hasn’t improved since we got here.

by Brian B on Aug 19, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

No wonder you were so frustrated.

apologies my friend

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by chesirecat on Aug 19, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

rec'd

I hate the new RR with the intensity of a thousand blazing suns.

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by BubbaFan on Aug 20, 2008 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There will come a day

When the dancing and smiling will be in the Queen City.

I may not be alive to see it, but I have to believe that it will come someday.

That will be a sweet, sweet day. Hopefully, it will involve someone pushing Jim Edmonds’ wheelchair off the upper deck with him in it.

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by Officer Dibble on Aug 19, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

rec'd

’cause Edmonds is that much of a fucker.

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by Officer Dibble on Aug 20, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want Brook Jacoby's head on a pike

If for no other reason than the irony

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by Man Mountain on Aug 19, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fixed

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 21, 2008 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is what happens when you trade your offense away...

and you still have a crappy bull pen.

AKA redsfan68 Nobody listens to Andrew

by nlt-andrew68 on Aug 19, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dawn Harper takes the gold in in the 100m hurdles

But NBC focuses on the fact that Lolo Jones lost . . . because she’s hot and white. Shame on NBC. Harper is so excited, and she barely gets an interview on the track. That’s sad.

by Brian B on Aug 19, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And she used to be poor, to boot

In defense of NBC, they usually focus on the American favorite, win or lose. But I probably didn’t need the 8th replay of Jones hitting that hurdle.

by ken on Aug 20, 2008 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The write-up I saw of this race

insinuated that Dawn Harper exhibited terrible sportsmanship by not immediately consoling Jones… wtf? she just won the damn gold medal.

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by chesirecat on Aug 20, 2008 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lolo Jones

Looks like Rashida Jones, I thought. Totally down with it.

by Brendanukkah on Aug 20, 2008 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

Love LoLo, and love Rashida.

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 21, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was at the Dragons game tonight

Cozart’s bat looked really good. That is the only positive thing I have to say about the Reds organization tonight.

by D-Rock on Aug 19, 2008 11:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah!

Oh wait . . . no, that’s Donnie Moore . . .

by Brian B on Aug 20, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ouch

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

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