because wins are an overratted stat

Okay, maybe he didn’t neeeed to stay. But I disagree with your assessment that he needed to go.

We wont argue that he had a low batting average, we won`t argue that he had no speed on the bases, we won`t argue that he was not a good fielder. (and I don`t want to hear people making excuses for this, anyone that has seen enough Reds games, has seen enough balls Dunn should have got to that he couldnt.) I can`t count all of the times I cringed watching that large man in the outfield, and how many times I would see a ball bloop into left field and get ready to see an exciting play at the plate….to only realize Adam Dunn was there.

Just to look at the other side of things for a second, you can’t tell me that he made absolutely no good plays on defense. Experts who have been looking at defensive metrics this season have actually said that he’s been an average fielder this year, as opposed to the atrocity that you portray him as. Think about it. How many times have you seen him make a nice catch or a nice throw to gun down a runner, and think, “anybody could have done that, seeing ONE good play doesn’t change my opinion”. Probably a few times, right? If you’ve watched every game like you say you have, then you’ve seen a good play or two. Well how does he get held to that standard every single time, but when he makes ONE bad play, he’s scrutinized. Do the bad plays outweigh the good? Probably, I’m not keeping track. But you can’t only mention the bad plays without considering the good ones as well.

No Laser arm, no stolen bases, no web gems.

Not what he’s getting paid for. He’s a slugger, not Ichiro.

You need to do more than argue if walks and strikeouts balance each other out or not. If you are going to be a star in the MLB, especially in the NL, you need to do more.

Who says? Nobody gets on Ryan Howard’s case, and he strikes out more than Dunn does. Derrek Lee, Lance Berkman, Manny Ramirez, Carlos Lee, and Carlos Delgado probably would disagree with you there. Also, who said walks and strikeouts balance each other out? Walks are much more valuable than strikeouts are detrimental.

Dunn hits homers, I dont care, everyone hits home runs when they come to Great American.

Not Juan Castro.

We need to understand, you dont get more runs on the board for hitting it further.

No one here thinks that, either.

I will take a two out, two run double over a solo shot hit 9,000 feet anyday. I`ll welcome any sarcastic comments about that last statement, I dont care, I want to see a baseball game I care about in October, at this point that would be more miraculous to me than a 9,000 foot shot.

A two out, two run double indicates that there are two runners on base, and the solo shot happens with no one on base. That’s like saying when Dunn comes up with a runner on first, you’d rather see a grand slam than a 2-run home run. You’re not comparing the same thing. I’ll tell you this, with two runners on base and two outs, I’d rather see a 3-run homer over a two run double.

This franchise is the first ever, we had one of the best baseball teams in major league history in the Big Red Machine, we had one of the best overall shortstops to see the game in Larkin, and we have a sport THAT DOES NOT HAVE A SALARY CAP, We have fans that do not fill the seats, and we have plenty of people around to bicker and make excuses when there are none.

Yes, this franchise has had a lot of history, but what constants remain from even the 1990 era? New owner, new GM, new personnel. It’s a different team, and needs to be run accordingly. The goal now can’t be to play off the past like they’re entitled to it, but to take the current personnel and build a championship winning team.

I`m tired of watching people that cant bunt even though they get paid to do something they have been doing all of their life, and it is the first thing I learned how to do when I started playing baseball when I was 8. I`m tired of sitting around and discussing whether or not a one tool player should have been paid and kept.

This is a moot point, because the players who can’t bunt shouldn’t be bunting anyways. Griffey, Dunn, EdE, Votto, and Bruce should almost never be asked to bunt. Not to go all sabermetric on you, but bunting is detrimental to scoring runs in almost any situation, but this is more of an indictment on the manager for asking them to bunt constantly than it is the players for not being good at it. Should they probably know the fundamental skill? Yeah, probably, but I don’t think it’s as big of a problem as it’s being made to be with the amount that Dusty asks his slugger to bunt.

If we want to be a team that even gets metioned on ESPN (which we really didnt even when we got rid of Dunn) we need to spend money and demand perfection, the Yankees are the franchise of baseball, because they spend more and want to win more, we were just here first and have nothing this decade to show for it.

Who cares if we get mentioned on ESPN? Just because the Yankees spend more doesn’t mean they “want to win more”, but I agree with you that Bob should spend more money, and I think he will starting this offseason.

We can`t afford to have Josh Foog throw an 85mph slider, 86 mph fastball, 81 mph changeup in the same spot and say he is ok to be a starter. We cant have Edwin have 3 errors one night and strike out 10 times in a row, then get a hot streak from him when the season is over. Corey Patterson has no business on this team, so what Dusty he can run? He should have tried out for the 100 m dash.

Disagree with you on EdE, but agree with Corey and Foggy. Also, this has nothing to do with Dunn, but you’ve got a nice little rant going to I’m not going to stop you.

We cant sign a 48 million dollar closer that we dont use, and when we do use him he gives up 3 runs…that is if Stormy Weathers doesnt give the game away already. Were mediocre because we have mediocre players, mediocre money, and mediocre fan support. Quite frankly I dont think keeping Dunn matters when you win 11-0 one night and lose 2-0 or 3-1 for 4 games straight, half of our entire teams stats are padded a little bit from times it didnt matter, and didnt change the outcome of the game, so just like that, I dont think Dunn being gone is going to change the outcome of next season.

This brings up a decent point. With the rest of the players around Dunn, it’s true that him leaving doesn’t really affect much for the rest of the season, or the long term of the club if they weren’t going to re-sign him anyways. I strongly disagree that this team is better without him though. That’s lunacy. He’s the best offensive player this team has had this decade, and without him, this team will score less runs. Plain and simple.

such as, but not limited to:

— he was a bad example to young players

— He was making too much money for a small market team like Cincinnati

— He didn’t care about winning

But not to worry. While it won’t crack the top ten in stupid Dunn posts at RR, this is as meandering, pointless and terribly-reasoned as any Dunn-related material I’ve seen on the internet in the last 2 hours.

I just felt like it could be more.