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Farmers only: Now with Yonder, Yorman

Yonder Alonso
Alonso

First things first: Yonder Alonso, the Reds' first-round draft pick, made an 11th-hour agreement with the Reds. His major league contract is worth $4.5 million over 5 years and includes a $2 million signing bonus. Alonso was the No. 7 pick after putting up a .370/.534/.777/1.311 line in 64 games for the Canes, collecting 24 home runs as a left-handed first baseman. He most likely shoots up to No. 1 among Reds prospects.

But the fun didn't stop there. The Reds also announced the long-rumored signing of Venezuelan Yorman Rodriguez, a five-tool outfielder who just turned 16. He was ranked the No. 2 international prospect, and along with Juan Duran and Alonso, they make for the equivalent of 3 first-round draft picks signed in one year. It was a very good day for the future of the Reds.

On to the minor league games.

Danny Richar
Richar

Triple-A: Danny Richar connected on his first homer for the Bats, a 3-run shot off Ryan Wagner, as Louisville won 3-0. Richar was acquired from the White Sox in the Ken Griffey Jr. trade. Ramon Rodriguez and Daniel Ray Herrera combined to strike out 8, allowing just 4 hits. Louisville still holds a 12-game lead over Toledo, is 29 games over .500 and has a magic number of 6 to reach the playoffs.

Double-A: Justin Turner was 2 for 4 in Chattanooga's 3-1 loss. Sean Watson struck out 2 in his inning and nearly has his ERA below 5, and Chris Heisey had a hit in his third of four games since being promoted to the Lookouts.

Devin Mesoraco
Mesoraco

High A: Dallas Buck struck out 4 and allowed just 1 hit in 5 innings in his debut for the Reds' system as Sarasota lost 1-0 in Game 1 of a doubleheader. Buck was one of three prospects collected for Adam Dunn in a trade with Arizona. In Game 2, Juan Francisco went 2 for 3 with a double and a homer in a 3-1 loss. Zach Stewart struck out 1 in his scoreless inning.

Low A: Devin Mesoraco was 4 for 5 in a 6-5 win for Dayton. Neftali Soto was 2 for 5, Jeremy Horst struck out 6 in 5 innings and allowed 2 earned runs and Aguido Gonzalez allowed another run but struck out 2 and earned his 4th save. All 10 Dragon hits were singles.

Rookie leagues: Evan Hildenbrandt struck out 6 in 6 innings but allowed 3 runs and earned the loss for the G-Reds, 5-1.

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I’m finally pretty happy about what the Reds did!

Yorman and Duran give us some good long term depth

Hopefully Yonder rakes when he gets to the minors next year and he can gat a September call-up! I guess its time to get Votto to LF?

by kennythered on Aug 16, 2008 11:35 AM EDT   0 recs

I really hope they try a different arrangement.

Votto is awful in LF. Noticeably worse than Adam Dunn.

Of course, I’m not that impressed with Joey’s bat, either. I wouldn’t mind seeing him movedto another team.

FIRE DUSTY BAKER

by Blue on Aug 16, 2008 12:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well

If Yonder rakes in the minors as expected and we get good value for Votto, I guess there wouldn’t be anyone against that. Maybe even get the Bluejays to over pay for the Canadian.

by kennythered on Aug 16, 2008 12:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Umm.. I'm against that idea.

Dude has not yet played his first 150 games and yet he has somewhere close to fifty extra-base hits.

You’d have a hard time convincing me that now is the time to ship him out.

"Being a human cannonball is not just a job, Pee Wee. It's a career."

by Fat Vegas Alan on Aug 16, 2008 1:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Didn't say now

I said if Yonder hits in the minors like expected or better and looks to be ready by the end of next year then trading Votto is an option and possibly the best option. That would also take into consideration if Votto gets better from now until then and if he can play the OF. Hell Kotchman brought back Teixeira and I think Kotchman and Votto are pretty similar guys.

1 So if Votto sucks in LF
2 He stays at the same production he is now, or just marginally better
3 Yonder hits all year in the minors next year and proves he is ready of will be ready for Sept of ’09 or ST of ’10
4 And we get very good value for Votto on the trade market
Then Trading him would be a good option.

So would I deal him now? Hell No.

Though I would probably call into question 2 things about Votto and his future with the Reds.
Will he stay at 1st base and if not can he field in LF? I think he can be better than Dunn out there and from all accounts he takes his fielding trade very seriously and works hard to field his position at 1st. He also caught in the minors and played some 3rd base so I would imagine he is athletically enough inclined to out produce Dunn with the glove in LF. So I imagine this not being much of a problem at all.
The second would be can his bat hold up at a Corner OF spot? I think he will be capable of that. He will probably be just a little better than average out there with an OPS around .850 or so. I would like to see him show a little more pop for the rest of this season, but I think the adjustment for him will be pretty much made by next year and we will see what he truly is/will be.

I think its great looking at our system building depth! Hopefully it won’t stop for a long time and we feel that we spent 10 million-ish on guys this year so we don’t have to next year.

by kennythered on Aug 16, 2008 4:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

can someone smarter than me explain the Yonder signing?

It’s a 5 year major league deal. does that mean that five years from now he’ll be a free agent? or do we still have control of him for six years after he reaches the majors?

by chandrathan on Aug 16, 2008 11:50 AM EDT   0 recs

he just goes on the 40-man roster right away

his arb clock is not affected.

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Aug 16, 2008 12:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Boobs, are you smarter than 'than?

And where do I fit in?

Is the list in the wiki?

"Being a human cannonball is not just a job, Pee Wee. It's a career."

by Fat Vegas Alan on Aug 16, 2008 1:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That's a good idea

someone smarter than me should make the list. I nominate God.

by Brian B on Aug 16, 2008 3:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Best. Farmer's Only. Ever.

"Being a human cannonball is not just a job, Pee Wee. It's a career."

by Fat Vegas Alan on Aug 16, 2008 1:45 PM EDT   0 recs

Agreed

What more could one ask for!

by kennythered on Aug 16, 2008 4:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Alan is right - Votto has done well in his first MLB year.

Let’s at least wait until the end of September and compare him to other similar rooks and don’t forget this guy is young and has an upside. I wouldn’t give up on any of the rooks.
Or EdE either.

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Aug 16, 2008 2:55 PM EDT   0 recs

I'm not just looking at this year.

I’m not impressed by his AAA numbers either: .294/.381/.478

That’s good for a AAA OPS of .859 (.861 career). Not really what you look for in a first baseman prospect.

FIRE DUSTY BAKER

by Blue on Aug 16, 2008 3:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

USA v. Stubby Clapp and the Canadians

And Chris Reitsma is pitching for the Cannucks.

by Brian B on Aug 16, 2008 4:05 PM EDT   0 recs

I would think that the Reitsma for Bubbal Nelson and Jung Bong trade

has the greatest delta between “hype” and “actual outcome for both teams” of all the Reds trades this decade. It was also (I’m fairly certain) the first Dan O’Brien trade.

The only thing I think would be close are the Drew Henson trades.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Aug 16, 2008 4:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Or

Claussen. Man I thought he was going to something, as I was young and someone on the radio said he would be!

by kennythered on Aug 16, 2008 4:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

but at least the Yanks got Boone

who did hit a walk off grand slam or something like that. I’m sure some Yankees fans (at least actual yankees fans) remember that. I couldn’t be more “meh” about the Reitsma trade.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Aug 16, 2008 4:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He led off the bottom of extra innings with a walk off solo HR to send the Yanks to the WS

But Aaron struggled with the Yanks as mus as he did with the Reds. Yet another Red who never figured out that he couldn’t hit 50 homeruns.

by Brian B on Aug 16, 2008 4:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yankees fans...

…were extremely upset at losing Claussen. He was the closest thing they had to a hot prospect at the time.

I liked Boonie while we had him. But he was one of those players that melted under the bright lights. He didn’t hit all that well, but he had a good glove. At least until the Yanks got to the postseason. Then he started screwing up really easy plays. Including one that cost Andy Pettitte a shutout in the 2003 World Series.

He did have that nice 11th inning walkoff homer. But it was off Wakefield. Sometime Wake serves up meatballs, and Boone happened to be at the plate at the time. (It was really neat that his brother Brett was in the broadcast booth at the time.)

I do have to give Boone credit for admitting he was playing basketball in violation of his contract when he blew out his knee. Most people would lie and say they were working out or something. But he was honest, even though it cost him big bucks.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 16, 2008 5:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Blue - through the 1st half of 2008

  1. Lance Berkman, Astros
.347 AVG, 22 HR, 73 RBIs, 15 SB, 1.086 OPS
Bottom line: Career year within reach for first-half MVP.

2. Albert Pujols, Cardinals
.350 AVG, 18 HR, 50 RBIs, 1.074 OPS
Bottom line: Returned from calf strain in no time.

3. Ryan Howard, Phillies
.234 AVG, 28 HR, 84 RBIs, .832 OPS
Bottom line: Game’s best power hitter ended first half on fire.

4. Adrian Gonzalez, Padres
.276 AVG, 22 HR, 71 RBIs, .848 OPS
Bottom line: Big step forward despite weak SD lineup.

5. Mark Teixeira, Braves
.271 AVG, 17 HR, 69 RBIs, .858 OPS
Bottom line: Second-half maestro could be headed elsewhere.

6. Justin Morneau, Twins
.323 AVG, 14 HR, 68 RBIs, .903 OPS
Bottom line: Success vs. LHP key to AVG resurgence.

7. Derrek Lee, Cubs
.306 AVG, 15 HR, 56 RBIs, 5 SB, .880 OPS
Bottom line: Disappeared after outstanding April; expect more consistency.

8. Prince Fielder, Brewers
.270 AVG, 18 HR, 52 RBIs, .845 OPS
Bottom line: Not another 50 HR, but 35 isn’t half bad.

9. Joey Votto, Reds
.279 AVG, 13 HR, 40 RBIs, 4 SB, .814 OPS
Bottom line: Power/speed ability a rarity at 1B.

10. Kevin Youkilis, Red Sox
.314 AVG, 15 HR, 63 RBIs, .933 OPS
Bottom line: History says power production won’t last.

Not terrible for a rook either. from
MLB.COM 07/15/2008 3:17 PM ET
By The Fantasy Staff / MLB.com

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
Dusty Baker

by Madville on Aug 17, 2008 4:40 AM EDT   0 recs

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