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Cincinnati Reds
@ Pittsburgh Pirates

Tuesday, Aug 12, 2008, 7:05 PM EDT
PNC Park

Edinson Volquez vs Jeff Karstens

Partly cloudy. Winds blowing out to center field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 75.

 

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W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2008 - Edinson Volquez 13-5 2.93 1.33 141 63

W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2008 - Jeff Karstens 2-0 0.00 0.80 6 5

Karstens came to Pittsburgh as part of the Xavier Nady deal with the Yankees and has yet to give up a run to the inferior National League.  Volquez came to the Reds in a deal for Josh Hamilton.  Hamilton > Nady, therefore Volquez > Karstens, right?

As a team the Reds are batting .218/.279/.380 in August, but they just traded that do nothing cancer Adam Dunn.  Small ball will rule the day and the Reds will score 10 runs tonight.  Bank it.

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lucky you

I’m more a hello man and a welcome man than a good-bye man. And to me Adam Dunn was more a person than a player.

by Slyde on Aug 12, 2008 5:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i know!

I get to miss the Pirates and reds. I don’t want to watch, but I know that if I’m home, I’ll wind up watching it.

"Video games don't make people more violent, and I'll kill anyone who disagrees." ~ Gord

by chandrathan on Aug 12, 2008 5:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Fuck this noise

I’m going to go watch soccer.

by Brendanukkah on Aug 12, 2008 5:10 PM EDT   0 recs

Who's playing?

US men’s team doesn’t play until 5AM tomorrow morning, I thought.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 12, 2008 5:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

DC United was hosting the New England Revolution

in the semifinals of the US Open Cup. It’s the oldest tournament in American soccer, and the winner gets a berth in the regional Champions League. DCU beat New England 3-1 behind a brace from Luciano Emilio. Good to see the Reds won, but I had a great fucking time at the game, and feel like I made the right decision.

by Brendanukkah on Aug 12, 2008 11:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You probably did.

The U.S. men’s team lost this morning too. Orozco got a red card in the 3rd minute, so we were playing short the whole game. It felt like watching a Reds game! (Zing!)

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 13, 2008 8:19 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Lineup via Fay

Chris Dickerson lf
Jeff Keppinger ss
Jay Bruce cf
Brandon Phillips 2b
Javy Valentin 1b
Edwin Encarnacion 3b
Corey Patterson cf
Paul Bako c
Edinson Volquez p

also:

Dickerson is one excited dude. “When they first me, I had no thoughts. I was ‘holy cow!’”

So, I guess Dickerson gets first this thread.

I’m more a hello man and a welcome man than a good-bye man. And to me Adam Dunn was more a person than a player.

by Slyde on Aug 12, 2008 5:13 PM EDT   0 recs

In case you were wondering

the hotheads at Fay’s blog have already turned their ire to EdE. They won’t stop until the entire team is made up of Jeff Keppinger.

I’m more a hello man and a welcome man than a good-bye man. And to me Adam Dunn was more a person than a player.

by Slyde on Aug 12, 2008 5:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I really hate sharing my rooting interest with those dolts.

Why can’t they find a team that isn’t the Reds?

And they LOOOVE them some Rosales. Ugh.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 12, 2008 5:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

backup QB syndrome

standard issue

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by Man Mountain on Aug 12, 2008 6:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

So take a good look at this lineup

... and then tell me what the 2009 Opening Day lineup will look like. This isn’t it, is it?

The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!

by TheC on Aug 12, 2008 5:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Take out Valentin put in Votto

other than that…

I’m more a hello man and a welcome man than a good-bye man. And to me Adam Dunn was more a person than a player.

by Slyde on Aug 12, 2008 5:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow.

This could end up being pretty damn unwatchable.

- Dickerson leading off in his ML debut.
- Kepp still at the top of the order.
- BP still cleaning up.
- LLM BATTING 5TH.
- “K”orey in the lineup.
- Maybe we’ll get good Wagon? Maybe not?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 12, 2008 5:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Dickerson

is probably the only one excited about this game.

But good for him. I’m glad someone in the Reds clubhouse is happy to be there.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Aug 12, 2008 5:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He had no thoughts when they first him.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 12, 2008 5:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

he was HOLY COW!

I’m more a hello man and a welcome man than a good-bye man. And to me Adam Dunn was more a person than a player.

by Slyde on Aug 12, 2008 5:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

faycaraylovechild

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 12, 2008 5:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Seeing that lineup

Blech. Seriously.

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 12, 2008 5:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I guess playing Hanigan again would have made too much sense.

At least this lineup has a good righty/lefty flow, which, as we all know, is the key component to winning baseball.

by Mr. Edipus on Aug 12, 2008 5:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

this lineup would be so all up ons

if they could get rid of EdE. dude is just not clutch.

im defecting. those Dunn haters look like they are just having waaaay too much fun. better to laugh with the sinner than cry with the saints, right?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 12, 2008 6:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I have never

been less excited for a Reds game

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Aug 12, 2008 5:13 PM EDT   0 recs

Jeff Karstens!

Check out his batting stats. Not bad for a guy new to the NL, eh? ;-)

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by BubbaFan on Aug 12, 2008 5:14 PM EDT   0 recs

A serious question for the braintrust

With the money the Reds cleared (in theory) by making the moves they have, what do you guys think happens?

Do you think they make a run at one of the big fish and horribly overpay (CC, Tex), do they overpay for a middle-of-the-road guy (Burrell), or do they sign low-level free agents to plug the holes and hope for the best?

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 12, 2008 5:30 PM EDT   0 recs

They'll probably have to overpay

to get a big name free agent.

If they pay big bucks for Pat Burrell, we’ll only have one question left for Walt Jocketty: whether he prefers Sartre or Camus.

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by Man Mountain on Aug 12, 2008 6:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't see them going after Burrell

or any other name FA. None of them feel like the kind of guy that makes our leadership drool.

by ken on Aug 12, 2008 6:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

am i mistaken

in remembering that a few years ago, Burrell was only interested in going to Boston or NY? maybe he’ll follow the dollar signs this offseason, but the Mets look like a good fit for him. just my opinion.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 12, 2008 6:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Haven't heard that before

Though it’s certainly possible he said something like that. The Mets would be a good fit for sure. Over the past year or so he’s really sounded like he wants to stay in Philly, a few grumblings about defensive replacements aside. It could all be fluff to help get the fans and media off his back, but Philly is also one of the few teams that will be able to afford him this winter and have a need for him. Plus he’s played with the core guys for several years and gets along well with everyone. The devil you know ….

by ken on Aug 12, 2008 7:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Camus can do, but Sartre is smarter

Well, Scooby-Doo can do-do, but Jimmy Carter is smarter.

/that episode was on yesterday

by Brendanukkah on Aug 12, 2008 11:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

My guess is overpaying for a big name pitcher.

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Aug 12, 2008 6:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Definitely overpay

I’m thinking middle of the road guys, if not shitty journey men (see david weathers)

by RedHotHollywood on Aug 12, 2008 6:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Honestly

what they do with the money “saved” by the recent moves will say a lot about whether this is a real rebuilding project or a half-assed one.

This is where Castellini would worry me. I hope Jocketty plans on a real rebuild and that Bob and the ticket office stay out of his way.

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by Man Mountain on Aug 12, 2008 6:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

too much money eaten

not enough tickets sold

they’ll stand pat. 2009 will be pretty ugly.

by bobestes on Aug 12, 2008 7:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

BK? What were hyou doing the other day?

bk employee takes a bath

"I never use a big word when a diminutive one will work." — Pete Mackanin.

by joshuar9476 on Aug 12, 2008 5:35 PM EDT   0 recs

Full vid?

http://www.break.com/index/burger-king-employee-takes-bath-in-sink.html

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 12, 2008 5:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah... if anyone's hiring dishwashers, let me know.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 12, 2008 6:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What # did Dickerson get? Anyone?

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 12, 2008 5:59 PM EDT   0 recs

He got No. 21

Can’t think of any other great 21s for the Reds off-hand

by cesarhernandez on Aug 12, 2008 6:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Does this mean he's going to bat left handed and play first base?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 12, 2008 6:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

cesar

you just got mayor’d!

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 12, 2008 6:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

and fratteberg'd too, brah

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 12, 2008 6:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Duh

Totally forgot about the Mayor. How could I? I have a co-worker who is in love with Sean Casey. Named her dog after him. She gets irritated when I make jokes about how slow of a baserunner he is, and how he’s a GIDP machine.

Helluva nice guy. Met him once and he was just fantastic.

by cesarhernandez on Aug 12, 2008 6:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And Captain Insano

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
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by Man Mountain on Aug 12, 2008 6:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Just stopping in to say:

Fucking BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Overserved and underwhelmed.

by Pops Daniels on Aug 12, 2008 6:06 PM EDT   1 recs

Reds < Winner of Little League World Series

Overserved and underwhelmed.

by Pops Daniels on Aug 12, 2008 6:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think I rec'd this

But I’m on the bb, so who knows. Is there a mobile version of RR without all the bells/whistles? That would be sweet.

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 12, 2008 7:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He'll get it

I mean the Yankees would do that in a heartbeat. 6 years, 100-110 mill easy.

Btw, Fay’s minions hand out recs like candy over there.

Politickin' in God's Country

by chesirecat on Aug 12, 2008 6:15 PM EDT to parent up   1 recs

Cause

you can rec yourself. All the knuckledraggers do it.

Overserved and underwhelmed.

by Pops Daniels on Aug 12, 2008 6:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The real sin is that they don't check themselves first.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 12, 2008 6:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Rec'd

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by JJ on Aug 12, 2008 8:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

*IF* that's true

and that’s a biiig “IF,” then I think he might be a little out of whack for the market.

But if he let that be known to the club, then there might be a decent reason to trade him. But why after the deadline?

"I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball" - Pete Rose

by Officer Dibble on Aug 12, 2008 6:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

So then

He would have rejected arb and we get the 2 first rounders?

Overserved and underwhelmed.

by Pops Daniels on Aug 12, 2008 6:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I expect there will be A TON

of stuff that will trickle out over the next few weeks intended to make Dunn look like a complete douchebag.

I’m not looking forward to it.

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by Man Mountain on Aug 12, 2008 6:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The article just makes Arroyo come off as a d-bag to me.

Very “we don’t need Dunn! We got pitching! (like me!)”

Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.

by andromache on Aug 12, 2008 6:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

my thoughts exactly

he thinks this rotation with its +5.00 ERA is a backbone of a good team? i guess we can be thankful we pay him to pitch and not manage.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 12, 2008 6:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't think this was intended to make Dunn look bad

Asking for $100 million for player like himself isn’t out of the question for some teams.

But it clearly is for the Reds and given that Jocketty doesn’t do contract negotiations in season AND knew he’d never sign him, the trade makes sense. The timing seems odd, but I think it makes some sense.

by bengalred on Aug 12, 2008 6:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i think its a tad high, but not exorbitent

i mean, he’s all of 28 years old. Carlos Lee is a decent comp and he was 3 years older when he got his big cash deal. 120 is too much, but i wouldnt be surprised if he got 100.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 12, 2008 6:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I wasn't speaking to this particular article

but more generally.

Quotes like Arroyo’s will be used to say that Dunn was just another of those money-grubbing modern athletes who don’t know how to play the game with passion, blah, blah, blah

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
Details at Sinful Savage Tigers

by Man Mountain on Aug 12, 2008 6:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

well

I’m sure he knows he can’t get 100mil on the open market; that’s just his price for staying in cincinnati.

by bobestes on Aug 12, 2008 7:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Translation:

“I’m outta here!”

by bobestes on Aug 12, 2008 7:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Dickerson with a walk!

Hope Corey was watching.

by cesarhernandez on Aug 12, 2008 7:08 PM EDT   0 recs

chris dickerson

the first steps to the hall of fame!

by RedHotHollywood on Aug 12, 2008 7:08 PM EDT   0 recs

C-Dick walks in his first ML AB.

Already clogging bases, picking up right where Dunner left off.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 12, 2008 7:09 PM EDT   0 recs

A WALK

at lead off!!!

O, God, Norma, bring me a chair!

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
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by Man Mountain on Aug 12, 2008 7:09 PM EDT   0 recs

It's kind of the Pirates' FO to give the players name tags

the Reds might want to look into this.

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by Man Mountain on Aug 12, 2008 7:10 PM EDT   0 recs

Dickerson can FLY

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 12, 2008 7:14 PM EDT   0 recs

THE NEW-LOOK, SMALL-BALL REDS!

BP!

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 12, 2008 7:15 PM EDT   0 recs

DING

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