Adam Dunn is gone
by Rick House on Aug 11, 2008 4:13 PM EDT
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After years of debate between strikeout-hating, fat-loathing Dunn bashers and on-base-and-home-run loving supporters, Adam from Milwaukee is now a Diamondback. Here's how the trade breaks down:
We get: Dallas Buck, a right-hander in Class A with low strikeout and walk rates but a low ERA who had Tommy John surgery last year; two players to be named; half of the remaining $4 million owed Dunn.
Arizona gets: 2 months + postseason of Dunn; two supplemental draft picks OR Dunn signed to an extended contract.
It's hard to tell who gets the better end without knowing who the players to be named are. But this day was bound to come, so say goodbye in whatever way you wish.
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Not possible
PTBNL’s cannot be on the 25-man roster.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
by BLee2525 on Aug 11, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this may be a different type of PTBNL
they may just be waiting for players to clear waivers. Theoretically, those players could be on the 25-man roster.
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW
Arizona sources are reporting that the 2 PTBNLs are on the current 40 man
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by Man Mountain on Aug 11, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should say "apparently reporting"
this is second or third hand from a comment on the BBTF thread
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by Man Mountain on Aug 11, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They said that on WLW too.
Wonder who they are.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Aug 11, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
Any requests for yelling at WLW guys? I’m on hold.
Overserved and underwhelmed.
by Pops Daniels on Aug 11, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Give em Hell!
Tell them the whole of RR hates them and to someday get on the website if they want to learn something.
by kennythered on Aug 11, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That'll show em
“I’ll have you know people on the internet don’t like this!”
Depending on the other two players this could still turn out to be a good deal. I’m just really bummed out by the party the Dunn bashers are throwing on the radio.
by Red Menace on Aug 11, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't let them steamroll you.
They don’t know their facts.
They don’t even know who plays LF now.
Phone's ringing, Dude.
by rjdio on Aug 11, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
please call them out...
about Dusty. This clown just spent 5 minutes defending Dustbag saying his hands are tied with this team.
by Hartung599 on Aug 11, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do the Reds score runs next year?
Remind them that the roster is built around a collection of out-makers. Dunn may not have been perfect, but at least he didn’t make outs hand over fist.
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last thing.
Ask them why Corey Patterson still works here.
Phone's ringing, Dude.
by rjdio on Aug 11, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll try to occomodate all
Overserved and underwhelmed.
by Pops Daniels on Aug 11, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone have any familiarity with Westwood?
by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 4:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
clint westwood?
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Aug 11, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The neighborhood of Cincy
We’re considering a move back to town, and saw a couple cool houses there online. not sure how hit or miss it is.
by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
miss
Overserved and underwhelmed.
by Pops Daniels on Aug 11, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not a miss!
I actually live there, and it’s a great neighborhood. It has its share of problems (it is after all the largest neighborhood in Cincinnati) but I doubt you’ll find a better value for a house in all of Greater Cincinnati.
by pettycells on Aug 12, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
move to northern kentucky
that’s where the cool people live
by chandrathan on Aug 11, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
been looking at ft thomas (schools are good, supposedly)
by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are
My kids are going to go to Highlands.
Overserved and underwhelmed.
by Pops Daniels on Aug 11, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
budget
Think I can get a decent 3br house for $175ish?
by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would guess so
When I moved from there in 2004, I sold a very nice 4 bedroom 3 bath house for $156k. I can’t imagine prices are that much higher.
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not in Ft Thomas.
If you want something halfway nice. We looked there for 6 months. Nothing less than $250 was very nice.
I’d look Madeira / Kenwood / Blue Ash / Montgomery area, but seeing how I live here, I’m kind of partial. Madeira, Indian Hill and Sycamore are all good schools too.
Hey, if I had some place to go I certainly wouldn't be in 'Cleve-Land'. -H.T.Duck
by snohio on Aug 11, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he should move to florence
very nice houses in that price range in oakbrook
by chandrathan on Aug 11, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I lived in Ft Thomas for a couple of years
it’s a good area to live in and it’s ridiculously simple to get to the park.
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holla
Overserved and underwhelmed.
by Pops Daniels on Aug 11, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Move to Kentucky.
Then maybe your kids end up becoming Brandon Webb and Mark Reynolds.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 11, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They have a wizard there.
Often wrong, never uncertain.
by sidnancy on Aug 11, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're not the idiot ripping on Votto for eating sunflower seeds at first base, are you Pops?
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Aug 11, 2008 4:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no, I'm Matthew in Newport
Overserved and underwhelmed.
by Pops Daniels on Aug 11, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, I posted that before I saw you got back to me in the other thread :)
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Aug 11, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Shit
You’re On
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by MixFMKyle on Aug 11, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They just cut me off
Overserved and underwhelmed.
by Pops Daniels on Aug 11, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOW...
I know I’m late to the party but that WLW “promo” bashing Dunn is uncalled for. Would anyone else here still have a job in the morning if we pulled crap like that at our work?
WTF…is anything associated with the Red’s not an embarrasment right now?!?
by Hartung599 on Aug 11, 2008 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I turned it off when I heard that
Outside of games I almost never listen to WLW. Every time I do I’m disgusted by stuff like that. Stay classy, fellas.
by Red Menace on Aug 11, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Radio is different than the real world
/jch24’d
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they're all really nice people they just play characters on the radio
by chandrathan on Aug 11, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dollas
it’s about making money. sound controversial, get people to listen, make money
Rush Limbaugh just signed a $200 mil contract. For being a liar.
by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he has a bunch of country music fans that follow him
they’ll buy anything
by chandrathan on Aug 11, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think his title is "Big Fat Liar"
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey now
I’ve never said they’re ALL nice. I’ve had plenty of people I didn’t/don’t get along with.
Most are just regular guys who get paid to be bombastic for 3-4 hours at a time.
How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?
by jch24 on Aug 11, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you are just grease for the cogs
The Dusty Path to the World Series!*
*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.
by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear the Hall of Fame is nice
It’ll be nice when Dunn’s inducted into that.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 11, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does he go in as a Red?
Hmmm….
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Aug 11, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant the Reds Hall of Fame, so...
probably.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 11, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you sure?
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shit
At the pace he is at prolly not first ballot but he may be worthy of the big one. Go to the Yankees, play LF/DH hit 45 bombs for 4 more years.
by kennythered on Aug 11, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't think he could hit 500?
That’s at least a spot on the ballot right there.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Aug 11, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, there's a chance he might make it to Cooperstown
I’m just saying, were his career to end today, he’s absolutely in the Reds Hall of Fame.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 11, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely.
Hell, Big Klu had his number retired.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Aug 11, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big Klu was loved by the peeps though
Dunn isn’t
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
by Caleb on Aug 11, 2008 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Klu
I want to say that I read Klu was hated, more or less run out of town, then 10-15 years later people started realizing that they really did like him. Which is a totally Cincinnati way to look at someone.
by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you are correct
it was as a coach and community figure that he became almost iconic.
If I remember right he was coming off a bad, injury plagued season and was traded for a guy that never played for the Reds or maybe only a few games.
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
by Caleb on Aug 11, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just got my "reds trade dunn" email from reds.com
by chandrathan on Aug 11, 2008 4:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They're slacking.
I got mine from DDN an hour and a half ago
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by BK on Aug 11, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please
Let us get Parker, everyone pray w/ me.
by kennythered on Aug 11, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This whole deal hinges on the PTBNLs
If those two suck, then this deal sucks. I’m dying for Parker, but I will be stunned if they actually get him.
by cesarhernandez on Aug 11, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think
the Dbacks have already said that it’s not Parker
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 11, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
After thinking and figuring a little,
there is a chance one PTBNL could be Parker, who didn’t sign until the deadline last season. That means he can’t be traded until Aug. 15. There is hope!
Eight players it could be, within reason, who are on the Arizona 40-man roster but not the 25-man are: RHP Micah Owings, RHP Jailen Peguero, RHP Esmerling Vasquez, RHP Emiliano Fruto, RHP Juan Gutierrez, C WIlkin Castillo, 1B Javier Brito and 1B Josh Whitesell. Not an impressive lot by any means.
Four players remaining from Arizona’s top-10 prospects list in the preseason include AA OF Gerardo Parra, RHP Jarrod Parker, SS Reynaldo Navarro and RHP Barry Enright. I like Parra’s bat a lot and he plays CF. Parker is a dream acquisition. Navarro’s only in rookie ball but is talented. Enright is struggling in Hi-A.
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by Thundering Turtle on Aug 11, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so who do you think would make this deal balance out?
i suppose Parker is outta the question, i mean, i just dont have any faith right now that the Reds could ever do anything good. so who else could it be?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 11, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it's Owings and Parra,
this deal is easier to swallow. If Parker is in it, potentially it’s a big win.
Owings reportedly was one of the players offered for Teixiera. Also, Arizona reportedly offered Chad Tracy straight up for Dunn. I don’t know if that really happened, but if so, the players the Reds get back in this deal figure to be guys they like more than Tracy. Interesting.
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by Thundering Turtle on Aug 11, 2008 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's really no chance the ptbnl is Parker, right?
I mean he’d be the name in the deal. Not for a 2 month rental. Even if the Backs plan on signing Dunn long term I doubt they’d offer Parker. The only GM I could see doing that is now returning video tapes for Walt Jocketty.
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by Man Mountain on Aug 11, 2008 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
parker couldn't be named until 9/15
pete rose to tony perez "how can anyone as slow as you pull a muscle?"
by dunnateher on Aug 11, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
8/15
pete rose to tony perez "how can anyone as slow as you pull a muscle?"
by dunnateher on Aug 11, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah, yes
but I still can’t see any way he’s one of the peanut butter and jellies.
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by Man Mountain on Aug 11, 2008 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any chance Scherzer clears waivers?
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Aug 11, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's on the 40 man, so wouldn't he?
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Aug 11, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 11, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Snakes. Why did it have to be snakes?
Bye, Dunner. After ten years with the Reds, it’s kind of hard to imagine you in another team’s uni. Best of luck wherever you land.
(Unless it’s Boston.)
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by BubbaFan on Aug 11, 2008 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Go Pops!
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes!
ripping Dusty for giving away outs?
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that should be an exclamation point
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't finished yet damnit
Overserved and underwhelmed.
by Pops Daniels on Aug 11, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just priceless stuff.
You got your money’s worth even if you didn’t get to say everything. Baker, Patterson, and the promo all in one call? Be proud you got all that in before they pulled the plug. Bravo.
Phone's ringing, Dude.
by rjdio on Aug 11, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
keep we radioless fans updated, eh?
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 11, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was ripping into Dusty for giving up outs with bunts
asking how the Reds are going to score runs.
How blaming Dunn is stupid when Corey Patterson is in the lineup everyday.
Tracy axed him why other teams weren’t claiming Dunn and then basically cut him off as he tried to answer.
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh, and Pops called them on the tasteless promo they've been running
and they had no response for that.
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i had to watch a commercial for xavier before i could listen to wlw online
so i missed a lot of the call
by chandrathan on Aug 11, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The other teams didn't claim Dunn
because they’re not contending. Arizona would be the first team up that needed a bat whose season was worth a damn. I hope Tracy got that right, at least.
by ken on Aug 11, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, it means that
luckily for us, the Dodgers didn’t try to block the trade.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 11, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why other teams aren't claiming Dunn
I realize you weren’t the one asking, but here’s the answer:
Obviously, Dunn is a FA at the end of the year. Therefore, it doesn’t make any sense for a non-contender to put a claim in, since they’d just be paying him for nothing. Waiver order is reverse order of record. Therefore, the teams you would expect to put a claim in are ones who have bad records, but are still in contention. Essentially, the NL west. The only nominal “contender” with a worse record than the Snakes is the Dodgers, who had a crowded outfield before the deadline, and just added Manny. Doesn’t make much sense for him. It is a virtual certanity that several teams ahead of the D-backs had a claim in, but you wouldn’t know it because the Snakes had a higher claim.
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by BLee2525 on Aug 11, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah
I don’t have time to be cut off.
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh
if I was controlling the conversation, sure I’d do it, but I learned my lesson with Doc. Stats don’t translate to radio when you aren’t the one in control.
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i know...
ultimately the radio host doesn’t have to answer anything. They can just cut you off and start ranting about something completely unrelated
by chandrathan on Aug 11, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great job, Pops.
I love how when you questioned the return of the trade, they ripped Daugherty for not knowing who they got back. Love it. Well done, man.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Aug 11, 2008 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah what was that?
it automatically becomes time to bash doc, and say we could be getting john smoltz and/or jeff bagwell
by chandrathan on Aug 11, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed! Great jobs Pops!
I love how they pulled out Doyle Alexander for Smoltz, and Bagwell for Larry Anderson as examples to be patient.
Great research, two examples that worked, versus 2 million minor leaguers that were traded for established stars that stalled out in High A ball.
These guys are Fucking Genises. does anyone feel like the only rational Red’s fans are RR bloggers?
by Hartung599 on Aug 11, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's 100% fact...
all you have to do is listen to local sports talk, and you’ll really appreciate the quality of Red Reporter
by chandrathan on Aug 11, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it here.
Good conversation. Hilarious comments. Great running jokes (“That’s racist.”). And all the music and movie references you need to keep laughing when the team blows, which is often.
Oh, and when things are awful, you can swear a little (within reason).
It’s the perfect counterpoint to the media monopoly that is the Enquirer/WLW and gives voice to the fan. I love it.
Phone's ringing, Dude.
by rjdio on Aug 11, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
If Dallas Buck has a career half as good as John Smoltz, I’ll eat my hat.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Aug 11, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and I'll happily lick...
up the mess tthat you shit out from eating your hat.
by Hartung599 on Aug 11, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big difference
Smoltz had his Tommy John surgery after he’d already put up 12 good years in the majors.
Name someone who’s come back from TJS and had Smotz’s career.
Often wrong, never uncertain.
by sidnancy on Aug 11, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Claussen?
Oh wait.
Phone's ringing, Dude.
by rjdio on Aug 11, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Ya never know"
is the white flag of a stupid man’s argument
by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"we don't KNOW that it's a bad trade."
“So it must be a great one.”
QED.
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
by andromache on Aug 11, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm done with the Reds
Seriously how does giving away your best offensive player make your team better?
Bye Reds
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by Zach K on Aug 11, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
From a Dunn hater to a Dunn-deal-breaker in 12 months
I feel like I just watched Dr. Zhivago
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by Man Mountain on Aug 11, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dodgers are stupid
They were the only contender to pass on him and if they claimed him it would have just meant the Reds would have pulled him back and it would have blocked the trade.
by kennythered on Aug 11, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Dodgers have
16 Outfielders on their 25 Man
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by MixFMKyle on Aug 11, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So
They don’t want him, they just should have kept the DBacks from claiming him and making them better, making their chances of catching them tougher.
by kennythered on Aug 11, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm surprised about that too.
You would think that they’d at least blocked him from Arizona.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Aug 11, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have to remember
that until Colletti traded for Manny, he was pretty much considered a lousy GM.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 11, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey, we're currently employing two lousy gm's!
by chandrathan on Aug 11, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Put it this way:
It could be worse. You could be Astros fans.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 11, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is that worse?
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by Man Mountain on Aug 11, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We would probably be living in Texas
I see his point.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 11, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
The Dusty Path to the World Series!*
*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.
by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But it's Houston
It would be much easier to stalk Bubba Crosby if I lived there.
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by BubbaFan on Aug 11, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And now I don't think you're joking
by Brendanukkah on Aug 11, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No need to break out the butterfly nets
unless I actually move to Houston. ;-)
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by BubbaFan on Aug 11, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because
at least YOUR GM actually realizes that at this point, you’re sellers, not buyers. Randy Wolf?? WTF??!
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 11, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OUR GM
went on record this weekend and said that the Reds were only one or two moves away from contending. Guess he doesn’t/didn’t think that. Let’s hope. Also, instead of adding strength to the roster OUR GM just hired one of the worst GMs imaginable to assist him in GMing.
If I were an Astros fan right now I’d be rooting for an outfield of Carlos Lee, Michael Bourne and Hunter Pence. And get to watch Lance Berkman and Miguel Tejada every night. Instead I get Jolbert Cabrera and Corey Patterson and Jeff Keppinger.
The ‘stros are no great shakes, but they are better than the Reds.
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by Man Mountain on Aug 11, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You might
have a point there. Or three.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 11, 2008 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on man,
you got Votto and Bruce and a bunch of young guys on your team.
And your team didn’t just draft Jason Castro ahead of Justin Smoak because your 1st round catcher last year sucked.
by FirebatM3 on Aug 11, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we voted Jason Castro off
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
by Caleb on Aug 11, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he never should have been on
in the first place
by FirebatM3 on Aug 11, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We'll see who what young guys are still around at opening day next season
Even still, the Astros have had a better record than the Reds every single season since 1995, save one. In that time they’ve been in the playoffs 5 times and played in a World Series.
The Astros also have 2 players with a OPS+ over 140 and a bona fide superstar in Lance Berkman. Currently, the only player with an OPS+ greater than 110 on the Reds is Jerry MFing Hairston, Jr, who can currently be seen starring in the on deck circle late in games.
As for the draft, the Reds managed to select the only player whacked out enough to think he deserves ludicrous money before he’s even faced a professional pitch. He’s “50-50” on whether he’ll bother to sign.
In the “recent memory” department, the Astros just demolished the Reds in a 4 game series in Cincinnati during which former Reds choke-job Brian Moehler took a perfect game into the 5th inning.
So, yeah, I’m standing by my original statement
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by Man Mountain on Aug 11, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alonso will sign
if he doesn’t, the Reds will get 2 high 1st rounders next year, and maybe even a chance at Straussberg. That’s a good haul
11 1st Rounders haven’t signed, including guys like Hosmer and Smoak, so it’s no big deal right now. Look, the worst thing in the world and the worst feeling in the world is to look at your ML team and realize they’re dead in the water and looking at the minors and realize there’s nothing coming. The Reds don’t have to do that right now, and you should consider yourself lucky.
by FirebatM3 on Aug 11, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
nothing is coming in the minors next season, at least not at the start of the season. The Reds best prospects still need some seasoning. That’s not to say there is not hope, but 2009 could be bad.
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no doi
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't like being worse than the pirates
unfortunately it may happen next year too
by chandrathan on Aug 11, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt the Reds will see much come up next year
and prospects are great, but they’re still prospects.
As I said the Astros are no great shakes, but I still think I’d be more hopeful today as an Astros fan than as a Reds fan. They have 2 legitimate stars taking the field every night in Lee and Berkman.
Certainly I’d be excited by the team I watched put a boot to the Reds this weekend.
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by Man Mountain on Aug 11, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, we've got Votto and Bruce
but at one time we had Dunn and Kearns, so you have to understand our cautious pessimism. The hopelessness that we feel is the culmination of 8 straight losing seasons while currently losing 9 of our last 10 and trading the team’s best hitter for a yet unknown return. I’m sure if we had a couple of weeks to sit down and look at both organizations as a whole, we’d feel better about our team in comparison to the Astros, but they just beat the Reds asses in 4 straight over the weekend, so it’s hard to brag that we’re not them.
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't wait for Thom to weigh in
I’m depressed. Go Bengals.
by Brian B on Aug 11, 2008 4:39 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, about that
The Bengals aren’t going to do anything to ease your depression.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 11, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They can beat up on Aaron Rodgers for one series tonight!
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Aug 11, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the bengals are going to suck...
but they’ll tide me over until UK’s Basketball season starts…
They won’t be UK good, but they’ll be improved
by chandrathan on Aug 11, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
think they'll win 20 games?
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
by Caleb on Aug 11, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah.
they’ll be second in the east
by chandrathan on Aug 11, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
UC Football
I’m kind of excited for it. I graduated 8 years ago. This is a novelty for me.
by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, are you coming to Huntington?
UC plays at Marshall this season. It’s a mere 3-hour drive.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Aug 11, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
Well, then that’s only 23 hours from Colorado :)
Looking at a job back in Cincy, though.
by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tee hee!
Well, if you ever find your way here, we’ll make you feel welcome.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Aug 11, 2008 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome
Y’all sound a lot friendlier than your in-state Mountaineer friends… those dudes are hardcore
by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No comparison, friend.
Mu has its share of screwballs like anyplace, but nothing like Morgantown.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Aug 11, 2008 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be there
My g/f’s roommate lives in Rome/Proctorville or whatever its called.
by kennythered on Aug 11, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cool. That's where I live, too.
Rome Township, but it’s a Proctorville mailing address.
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by Thundering Turtle on Aug 11, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha gnarly
But I will be rooting for the Cats
I was impressed by Marshall’s following last year however. There were about 3000 tailgating at UC last season and though I am a UC fan I had to hear the battle call so as soon as I yelled “We ARE,” everyone Tailgating gave me a hugh MARSHALL!
by kennythered on Aug 11, 2008 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BP and Weathers' reaction coming up... color me curious.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Aug 11, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Because Weathers
is the kind of guy you build a team around. A real leader. A real winner. Look at all his rings. No wonder he sometimes has trouble pitching. Too many rings. They cut off circulation from his gut, which is where he gets his power.
Phone's ringing, Dude.
by rjdio on Aug 11, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do they have to put one caller on first
before Weathers can talk?
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by Man Mountain on Aug 11, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank god they're on the road
Weathers talks better when he’s not in Cinci.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 11, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True story...
I swear i just heard the following. “Just spoke to David Weather’s, the fine reliever for the Reds.”
by Hartung599 on Aug 11, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What Phillips is trying to say
is, “You know.”
Phone's ringing, Dude.
by rjdio on Aug 11, 2008 4:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it's sad that to Cincinnati, and probably the rest of regular fans,
the story of Adam Dunn is 40+ HR and 165+ strikeouts and that’s it. The dude has a career .380 OBP. That’s good for 20th among active players with 3000 PAs or more. Oh, and he’s one of only 14 players to drive in 90 or more runs in each of the last 4 seasons. Oh, and he’s one of only ten players to score 90 or more runs in each of the last 4 seasons. The only players on both of those lists: ARod, Pujols, Ortiz, Miggy Cabrera, and Bobby Abreu.
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You forgot the two big ones
Most HRs over the past 5 years.
Most BBs over the past 5 years.
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by sidnancy on Aug 11, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The faulty logic
is when people look at that and say, “So? They’re still in last place.”
Pops had it right when he told them that you need to build a team around Adam Dunn.
Dunn might drive in more runs if other people could get on base in front of him. But they’d rather start a guy with a Mendoza-line OBP or bat him behind GIBP.
Phone's ringing, Dude.
by rjdio on Aug 11, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whats the rule with PTBNL?
They have to be a level lower when the trade is made or jsut period or what?
by kennythered on Aug 11, 2008 4:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dunno.
Also, there is evidently a difference between “players to be named later” and “Players to be Named Later.”
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by Fat Vegas Alan on Aug 11, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've got a sneaking suspicion one of these guys is Chad Tracy.
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by BK on Aug 11, 2008 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Me 2
God I’m nervous, I’ m hoping thats not legal with teh PTBNL rules
by kennythered on Aug 11, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have a pine cone
shoved up my ass than to watch Chad Tracy in a Red’s uniform
by Hartung599 on Aug 11, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BPs reaction, pretty standard.
Dunn’s a great hitter, he’ll be missed. He didn’t really say a whole lot.
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by BK on Aug 11, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ahhh thanks
i lobbied for a radio station change but its against Follett corp. rules
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 11, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so what are BP and Stormy saying?
i hate working late.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 11, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
...hush
im usually outta the office by 3-3:30 during the slow times (now). but Mondays i work ‘til 7. my job is pretty sweet, but i could get paid more for it.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 11, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about
Greg Smith/ Dana Eveland/ Carlos Gonzalez/ Chris Carter/ Brett Anderson/ or Cunningham, oh yeah their system got gangbanged by Beane
by kennythered on Aug 11, 2008 4:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And it STILL
may be one of the most even trades of the Beane era—Haren is one of the top 5 pitchers in the NL, even pitching in a hitter’s park, and even before extending him, we had him under contract until 2010.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 11, 2008 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i lobbied for the Reds to get Haren
before this disaster of a season started. while the Reds’ focus was on getting Bedard, i was all up on a deal for Haren. looks like a good deal for both sides. he is solid and consistent. kinda like Aaron Harang was before he met Dusty.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 11, 2008 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jerry Narron wasn't exactly easy on Harang.
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lemme alone
im entitled to point fingers and gnash teeth on days like this.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 11, 2008 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not knocking the deal
I think it evened out also, esp if Haren stays this healthy and productive. Eveland has started to show some true colors, and I only really like Gonzalez out of the rest of them.
by kennythered on Aug 11, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brett Anderson
is pretty damn good. Definately a top 10 pitching prospect, probably a top 5 guy (which makes him about a top 3 in the AL West)
by FirebatM3 on Aug 11, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at the bright side
Remember all those times you were so pissed when the bullpen (read: Majewski) would come in and blow the game? Don’t have to worry about that anymore!
Often wrong, never uncertain.
by sidnancy on Aug 11, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This guy calling now referenced your call, Pops.
Nice.
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by BK on Aug 11, 2008 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wish they wouldn't have cut him off
I wanted to hear him sound dumb attacking Pops.
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did he bash me?
I had to give the baby a bottle and missed it.
Overserved and underwhelmed.
by Pops Daniels on Aug 11, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he didn't get anything out...Jones cut him off
But it sounded like he was going to call you a fool.
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am indeed
This being uninfluenced by Marty and Doc caused it.
Overserved and underwhelmed.
by Pops Daniels on Aug 11, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clarification on PTBNL
From Slate:
Two rules govern player-to-be-named-later transactions. The deal must close within six months and the player must change leagues (which is why most players to be named later are minor leaguers).
I was wrong previously about saying the player must be on a different level. That is only the case in the NL (and therefore this deal) for the Reds. This means that it can’t be someone on the 25-man roster, unless there is special dispensation for clearing waivers, but I’m guessing we’re looking at people not on the 25-man roster.
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tracey Jones: "He could take arbitration, and then where would you be."
Uh, you’d have a really good bat signed to a one year deal. What a shitty position to be in.
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
are any of these prospects good??
Brent Jonathan Beck
by Brent Beck on Aug 11, 2008 5:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we only know about one of them
the others have yet to be named, but the named prospect is a single a pitcher returning from Tommy John.
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two are unknown
And if they’re anything like our unknown soldiers, then they’re good at losing dogtags.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 11, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but the Reds will have a constant guard over them
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this sucks
ball sack….... I thought Krivsky was gonna be a good Gm, now I think he is an ass clown
Brent Jonathan Beck
by Brent Beck on Aug 11, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Votto to LF is official now for next year
Yonder Alonso the future at first
Brent Jonathan Beck
by Brent Beck on Aug 11, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they have to sign him first
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
im so mad i didnt even know who i hate, i hate em both though
Brent Jonathan Beck
by Brent Beck on Aug 11, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what a rude awakening to my nap
i woke up got online and checked repreporter to see if there were any off day posts, figuring it would be a quiet day. This just fucking sucks. At the begining of 2007 I honestly thought 2009 would be the year when everything woudl come togeather, I thought Bailey would have worked out the kinks, Cueto would be major league ready, some of the other low minor leaguge talent would have been ready to pitch in the big leagues, the Reds would extend Dunn, Harang and Arroyo would lead the staff.
In 2000 when the Reds traded for Griffey I thought that it would be great to consitently watch the Reds lose 12-10, which happened. now it will be great to watch the Reds lose 10-3 connsistantly.
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess technically he could re-sign
Im pretty sure there is less than a .1 percent of that happening though.
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by MixFMKyle on Aug 11, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that's too high
There is zero chance he signs. Why would he?
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
But a dude can wish can’t he?
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by MixFMKyle on Aug 11, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I don't know if people really follow the Reds and their stats"
-Tracy
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
are you going to the DNC
I think my wife scored us tix to obama’s acceptance in teh DSCC box
by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i will be at the DNC
i am leaving Sunday. I am still working on getting ot the acceptance speach.
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
hoping those tickets come through… apparently they’re having a hard time giving them away (the DSCC tix) because no one can get rooms
by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i am going as a part of a program with the Washington Center
So I have housing at Regis University. I applied to the DSCC. The Washington Center is also looking to find us tickets.
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Condolences
I always appreciate you guys coming over to True Blue LA during Dodgers-Reds games, so I’d just like to offer my condolences on such a horrible trade.
by Tango and Cash on Aug 11, 2008 5:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
Put it this way. The next time we come over, you can probably shut us up by saying, “Scoreboard.”
by Brendanukkah on Aug 11, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so, really, just like every previous Reds-Dodgers series
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by Man Mountain on Aug 11, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could have kept this from happening Dodgers
Why didn’t you block the deal
why
why
why/
by kennythered on Aug 11, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy Crepes
So the Reds are now down to 1 maybe 2 runs a game offense. Though maybe those runs will come from Dusty’s patented Bunt for a small inning.
I really am tired of the Reds. I hope like crazy some of these PTBNL amount to something good.
Beware the toothpick knows.
by Pilsner73 on Aug 11, 2008 5:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reds fans,
if you’d like to share your opinions, we’d love to hear ‘em.
(Previous thread now closed)
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 11, 2008 5:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Adam Dunn hates Baseball
Ha Ha
Beware the toothpick knows.
by Pilsner73 on Aug 11, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we just fire
The whole coaching staff and get some of those Fred McGriff baseball videos and have the players watch them.
Beware the toothpick knows.
by Pilsner73 on Aug 11, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no
show them the Hardball Made Easy vidoe’s.
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bad News Bears Breaking Training
Might work
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by Pilsner73 on Aug 11, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if Dunn would have saw those video's
he would have been more scrappy.
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jones is full of shit
“John Smoltz was a long way away when he was traded for Doyle Alexander.”
Yeah, so far away that he was in Triple-A after the trade and in the Majors for good the following season.
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 5:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bad Radio
Bad newspaper reporters. How doesn anyone get good sports information other than sites like these?
Beware the toothpick knows.
by Pilsner73 on Aug 11, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how do our Amish friends learn about the Reds?
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't tell them what happened to Noodles Hahn.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 11, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he became a weekly answer to the "rich cope" gem of the night.
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow 700 WLW is classy
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Beijing is amazing
i loved it there.
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah
wife visited in 2005 – said it was amazing
by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and shanghai was even better
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
diff country, but
brother is stationed in tokyo, going to go visit before his tour is up in a couple of years
by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i want to see Tokyo
it looked cool when I went through the airport.
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I went there a few years ago
The Great Wall was the most impressive thing to me.
Photos really don’t do justice to the scale of the thing. It’s just amazing.
I also like Xian.
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by BubbaFan on Aug 11, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we played a concert on the great wall
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Next stop, the Great Pyramid for New Year's Eve
Some no-name called Floyd Pink can open for you.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 11, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like some tough angles to play.
Probably leads to a lot of triples.
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by Thundering Turtle on Aug 11, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
About the tasteless radio promos
Another file in the brief I have against Cinci area media: why can’t they simply criticize a player? Why must they always turn punitive and spiteful?
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by Man Mountain on Aug 11, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Castro reference?
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess Paul Daughtery has cum all over himself.
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No, he was against the trade actually.
And yeah, I’m as shocked as you are.
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by BK on Aug 11, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i haven't read/heard any reaction yet
his blog is still about his trip
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was on the radio
saying he didn’t like the trade. Not because he likes Dunn, because he doesn’t, but he thought Dunn was worth more than what we got back
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by BK on Aug 11, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
visual imagry?
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
probably smells faintly of Keystone Light
Phone's ringing, Dude.
by rjdio on Aug 11, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting if the Reds got a nice prospect for Dunn
Will have to be from the lower minors though.
by Johnnypronto on Aug 11, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
god i was hoping you would show up
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad to be here
The Reds are in historic times. A complete top to bottom rebuild. Going get worse before it gets better.
by Johnnypronto on Aug 11, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you not see
Volquez, Cueto, Bailey, Thompson, Encarnacion, Votto, Phillips, Bruce, Burton, Harang (with a ?), Ronieckie. etc? Those players are either there or real close to being there. They have plenty of talent that is big league ready.
David Weathers is a closer (unreleated)?
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not all those guys are going to panout and some will decline
Rebuilding isn’t fun but necessary.
by Johnnypronto on Aug 11, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same with pimpin'
Phone's ringing, Dude.
by rjdio on Aug 11, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
But Jocketty says the Reds are real close?
Just one or two players away?
He told Fay an’ everything. Fay writed it down on his etch a sketch.
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by Man Mountain on Aug 11, 2008 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guh
Bailey sucks. I’ve turned on him.
by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bailey is getting better and better
His last start featured a 94-96mph fastball with command, a 84-87 slider and he is rebuilding his curveball after after the 07 fiasco. His mechanics have gotten back on track.
The lack of location and efficiency hurt him and he gave up way to many meaningless singles basically. I think he is close. Easy breakout candidate for 2009 and star by 2010.
by Johnnypronto on Aug 11, 2008 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who are you?
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Here are his last 3 starts:
August 6: Thanks to 2 doubles, those "weak singles" contributed to 6 ER in 5.1 IP
August 1: Thanks to 2 doubles (and a wild pitch), 5 ER, 2 IP.
July 26: 15H, 4.2 IP
Total damage: 12 IP, 15 ER, 30H, 9k/5bb, 2 WP, and for good measure the other team is 3/4 stealing bases off him. That’s more than “meaningless singles”.
Often wrong, never uncertain.
by sidnancy on Aug 11, 2008 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you'll be free of him
once Jocketty trades him for Gerald Laird this offseason
by FirebatM3 on Aug 11, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
btw
ryan freel is now the longest-tenured red, april 2003. harang is the longest-tenured active player, august 2003.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Aug 11, 2008 5:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
awesome now that Freel is the "leadership"
Farney outta really spark the team.
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
which is strange
because, when he came up, i thought there was no way freel would last a full season with this team. always seemed like a fairly disposable player.
by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he hasn't
and he is
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by Man Mountain on Aug 11, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're pretty good at researching
http://www.redreporter.com/2008/8/11/591453/report-dunn-traded-to-diam#8031239
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"The Dean of the Reds is now Ryan Freel" hardly counts as research
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Aug 11, 2008 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone Else notice
George Grande always Calls Jocketty Walt Jockerty
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by MixFMKyle on Aug 11, 2008 5:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He also calls Cherry
Harris-ton
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by xjjeep90 on Aug 11, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dear Brook Jacoby
I think it’s time to get the ole resume ready
by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 6:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dunn's FA value
Even for a 2 month rental, Dunn should have gotten more than this. If this many GMs passed on him, it should mean that Dunn will not be getting a great FA offer. I’m going to guess he signs for 35 mil over 4 years but I just want to write something down so that I can obnoxiously reference it later in case I’m correct.
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by redandblue on Aug 11, 2008 6:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How many GMs is "this many"?
"Being a human cannonball is not just a job, Pee Wee. It's a career."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Aug 11, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think 8 GMs passed on him
but LA would be the only team of that 8 that is in serious contention.
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you think Dunn's next contract will be?
AND did this trade affect your opinion of what his next deal will be?
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by redandblue on Aug 11, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This trade did not affect my opinion
and I think he’ll still get 4yr+/50m+
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to C. Trents Blog
The other 2 players have been agreed upon, they just have to clear waivers.
So they must be on the D-Backs 40 Man.
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by MixFMKyle on Aug 11, 2008 6:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jon Coutlangus is on the D'Backs 40-man.
by Geki on Aug 11, 2008 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't get me too aroused with the possibilities
Politickin' in God's Country
by chesirecat on Aug 11, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Coutlangus passes, he could be on the mound with Dick Pole in no time.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Aug 11, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arousal is the purpose
of Coutlangus!
Hey, if I had some place to go I certainly wouldn't be in 'Cleve-Land'. -H.T.Duck
by snohio on Aug 11, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Crap
What a way to finish up rehab. I was on the airdyne bike when it flashed in the screen.
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
by Caleb on Aug 11, 2008 6:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
mother f*cker
Dave Miley’s kid died:
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/aug/11/taillights-lead-hillsborough-deputies-fatal-crash/
by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 6:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
man i hate to hear that
no parent should have to bury a child
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
by Caleb on Aug 11, 2008 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
this kind of stuff really messes with me now that I have a kid
Someone told me once, if you can raise a boy to the age of 25, you shouldn’t have much to worry about. Between reckless behavior and suicide, if you can get a boy past 25, you’re in the clear.
by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marc Lancaster
had to write that story too. I bet that was a hard story to write.
Hey, if I had some place to go I certainly wouldn't be in 'Cleve-Land'. -H.T.Duck
by snohio on Aug 11, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Farewell Big Donkey
Just arrived back in Santo Domingo after a great summer home in Cincy and in France.
Not sure what to think about this, not sure at all. Maybe if it were clear this franchise had a plan, this might almost seem sort of ok.
Do you know that I don’t really like baseball that much?
Tanzen!
by Verka Serduchka on Aug 11, 2008 6:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i feel kinda like i will be taking the rest of the season off
i won’t really make an effort to watch any games. If they are on and I have nothing better to do I’ll watch, I won’t check the boxscores everyday. I said that in 2003 after the huge fire sale, but I remember watching Jose Accevado fall in LA, Dan Sarafini actually start a major league bame, Todd Van Poppel start a game, Seth Etherton get some starts, Josh Hall, Ryan Wagner dominated etc… The Reds are kinda like an abusive spouse who I can’t divorce.
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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 6:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dunn poo'ed my pants
Well for those who ran him out of town, I hope you solved all your problems. I will be watching the D-backs until the playoffs conclude. Welcome to the reds chad tracy they will love you to death.
pete rose to tony perez "how can anyone as slow as you pull a muscle?"
by dunnateher on Aug 11, 2008 6:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
...
dear god… this is the end reds. enjoy finishing 60-102. Every damn person who comments on this blog is going to be dead before this team is competitive. I hate 5 year plans. I want a damn winning season. Go to hell, Reds “brain trust”
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by chesirecat on Aug 11, 2008 6:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
5 year plans worked so well for the USSR
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by justin007000 on Aug 12, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Reds work well
...in theory.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 12, 2008 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everything works in theory
How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?
by jch24 on Aug 12, 2008 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In theory,
real life and theory are the same. In real life, they are not.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 12, 2008 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm jealous of the DBacks
not because they got Dunn, but because they are in first place. There is some giddyup in the steps of the Snakepit crew. I wish it felt like the Reds were anywhere near that.
And I’m a little jealous that they got Dunn.
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
C. Trent on what we're getting:
When judging the Adam Dunn trade, don’t forget the two players to be named.The one player announced was Dallas Buck and the other two players have to be minor leaguers. However, those two players to be named are on the Diamondbacks’ 40-man roster, a source tells The Lot D.
The Reds wouldn’t have done the deal without getting a Major League-ready pitcher. That means it’s either Micah Owings, Max Scherzer or Jailen Peguero. If it’s Owings or Scherzer, does that change your opinion of the deal?
Expect the other to be a position player, which would be catcher Wilkin Castillo or one of two first basemen, Javier Brito or Josh Whitesell.
If we get Scherzer or Owings, I’ll be much more okay with the trade. Scherzer’s got electric stuff and I’d be shocked if he were included, but Owings might be possible. He’s a future 3/4 in my opinion, a little prone to giving up the longball, but hey, he’s also prone to hitting the longball. On half the days he pitches for us he’d probably be the 4th or 5th best hitter in the lineup.
However, if we don’t get either of those two, we’re pretty much just as fucked as we thought. The other four players are more or less the D’Backs equivalents to guys like Ryan Hanigan, Chris Dickerson, and Ramon Ramirez.
by Geki on Aug 11, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I doubt they get Scherzer.
Owings would be nice given the supposed lack of interest in Dunn prior to today, but I wouldn’t say they’ve gotten better as a team with Owings. Not that he’s a bad pitcher, but the Reds have lost a lot with Dunn – granted only for this season. Scherzer would be a different story, but I can’t imagine the Dbacks would give up Scherzer for 2 months of Dunn.
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scherzer's not happening
unless I am misunderstanding the rule.
He is on the 40-man roster, which means that he must pass through waivers in order to be traded. There is absolutely zero chance that Scherzer would get through waivers. He’s not even worth discussing as a possible return.
Jarrod Parker would make this OK by me, but people on BBTF who know way more than me say that it’s extremely unlikely that Parker would be included.
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by BLee2525 on Aug 11, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In theory, Scherzer could happen
He just doesn’t clear waivers and he could be sent to the Reds after the season. That said, there’s no chance in hell the Reds are getting Scherzer. The D-Backs arent THAT dumb.
Of all that mess listed above, I guess I could live with Owings and Castillo. Reds could use some options at catcher. Going into the next season with Bako, Hanigan and god forbid Valentin isn’t very appealing.
by cesarhernandez on Aug 11, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take
Scherzer and Buck over Owings Castillo and Buck. Have you seen Owings lately? Guy has been awful.
by kennythered on Aug 11, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I know Owings has been bad
but getting Scherzer? That’s dreaming. Of course I’d take Scherzer over anything else.
by cesarhernandez on Aug 11, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Owings has had mechanical problems lately,
and his 3rd pitch is really more of a further slowed-down changeup. That’s his issue.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 12, 2008 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I read on BBTF
that ‘Reds Fans’ were saying we might get Parker.
by Red Menace on Aug 12, 2008 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scherzer and Parker are the untouchables.
Not gonna happen, and it wouldn’t be Scherzer anyway, because he’s not eligible to be a PTBNL.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 12, 2008 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Truely the only people who seem to understand Dunn's value are Red Reporters
Folks over at Madison Lanes were crowing about how great it was to dump that no good strikeout king who isn’t clutch.
Just fucking wow.
Oh well Olypics and pre-season football are here..but of course I can’t not follow EdE, Votto, Bruce, Hannigan. Volton and Johnny C. thise guys (and esp. Arroyo) must be bumming out big time. 12st the manager says its not his team or his fault them management gets rid of the offense’s best player.
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by Madville on Aug 11, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I give up
The Reds are inept and I won’t believe otherwise until they prove it definitively. The good news is, Chris Perry looks good for the Bengals. Oh, and Michael Phelps continues his superhero routine in about 45 minutes.
How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?
by jch24 on Aug 11, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Josh Whitesell, Javier Brito, Wilkin Castillo, Esmerling Vasquez, Max Scherzer, Jalen Peguero, Micah Owings, Juan Gutierrez, Emiliano Fruto, and Jon Coutlangus.
“Hey Walt pick two of these guys and this guy in the minors that would have been good if it wasn’t for a bad elbow and give me Adam Dunn and a few million”
“Holy shit Dusty, we just fleeced Byrnes!”
by kennythered on Aug 11, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Esmerling Vasquez sounds kind of like Edinson Volquez
Therefore, he will be good kind of like Edinson Volquez.
And when it comes to Coutlangus, I hope he’s not the one who’s coming.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 11, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
edinson volquez is bronson arroyo
he was awesome for half a season, but in the end we’ll have wanted Hamilton
by chandrathan on Aug 11, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, does that mean Hamilton becomes Wily Mo Pena?
I don’t want Pena back.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Aug 11, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you are over-reacting to 4 starts
We knew he wasn’t going to keep an ERA below 2 all season. That doesn’t mean he’s the suck now.
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could be...
It’s also that I’ve been waiting for him to implode the whole season, and it looks like it’s starting to happen.
Serious question…long term who’s the better pitcher, cueto or volquez?
by chandrathan on Aug 11, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
If Cueto can regain that control that he showed in the minors, I’d choose him. But Volquez’s changeup is the best I’ve ever seen on the Reds. Then again, Cueto has the potential to develop a similar changeup. I’d probably choose Cueto as the better pitcher over the long term, but I think both of them will be at least a low #2 or high #3 for most of their careers – if they stay healthy.
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe even better
If Cueto regains some of that control and his Change continues to develop the guy could be an anchor
by kennythered on Aug 11, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like cueto better...
I hope they both develop into dominant pitchers though.
I need to be clear that I am not rooting against Volquez
by chandrathan on Aug 11, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, it's not Volquez is BP
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way to go out on a limb there, Joe
Do you think if Sheffield comes back strong the Tigers can become a great team like your Reds?
by Red Menace on Aug 12, 2008 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wrong wrong
EV’s stuff is filthy compared to BA. He’s young. He’ll be solid.
by bobestes on Aug 12, 2008 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vasquez was a Double-A co-ace last year with Scherzer,
but he’s struggled this year.
Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.
by DbacksSkins on Aug 12, 2008 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to JS
2) Max Scherzer, RHP, Grade B+ 07/27/1984
Was blowing away the PCL and did well in the majors, 2.90 ERA with 33/14 K/BB in 31 innings. It all depends on if he can stay healthy or not.
7) Esmerling Vasquez, RHP, Grade B- 11/07/1983
7.23 ERA with 46/65 K/BB in 71 innings for Triple-A Tucson, 68 hits allowed. Everything has collapsed here, strikeout rate way down.
9) Juan Gutierrez, RHP, Grade C+ 07/14/1983
6.83 ERA with 64/33 K/BB in 82 innings, 118 hits allowed in Triple-A. They need to stop using the flubber ball in Tucson.
Josh Whitesell 04/14/1982 was with the Nationals and was an okay prospect before being waived and claimed by Ari. .331/.428/.564
Javier Brito hasn’t hit too well this year . 248/.355/.447 in AA with terrible numbers in AAA
Wilkin Castillo 06/01/1984 .248/.300/.352 in AAA Tucson
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071104&content_id=2291942&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb – article on him from last November
Micah Owings (09/28/1982) has started two games with Tuc since being sent down. 9K in 11ip with 6bb. In the majors he started the year out well befor losing much of his control. 6-9 with a 5.93 era 87ks and 41bbs.
If we get Jalen Peguero, Emiliano Fruto, or Coutalangus and they arent paired with Scherzer/Parker I may just give up on the Reds!
by kennythered on Aug 11, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I were a betting man
I would bet we get Owings and Vasquez or Castillo
Cincy brings in Buck for veteran Dunn – http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080811&content_id=444495&vkey=news_milb&fext=.jsp
by kennythered on Aug 11, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I were a betting man
I would bet we get Owings and Vasquez or Castillo
Cincy brings in Buck for veteran Dunn – http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080811&content_id=444495&vkey=news_milb&fext=.jsp
by kennythered on Aug 11, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fun fact
Career OBP as a Red.
Joe Morgan .415
F. Robinson .389
Adam Dunn .380
Pete Rose .379
by cesarhernandez on Aug 11, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Another fun stat
Career SLG as a Red
Robinson .554
Dunn .520
So Dunn’s OPS as a Red was an even .900. Robinson is the only one higher at .943.
by cesarhernandez on Aug 11, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I sent these facts
To a local morning sports talk host, not sure if he used them or not. :)
How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?
by jch24 on Aug 12, 2008 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am so sad.
Oh god. I’m fucking bereft.
Everybody's a jerk. You. Me. This jerk.
by andromache on Aug 11, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
FTH
What the hell is with the freaking Reds?
People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.
by crolfer on Aug 11, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As for Brantley's "Speed and Defense" Mantra
aside from the fact that it sounds conspicuously like “guys who are thin and don’t hit for power,” we must remember that after Jocketty brought in Big Mac in the mid-90s, the Cards almost always had at least 3 everyday players OPS+ing over 120 (often over 130) and always had 1 player OPS+ing over 150.
So it isn’t like he was relying on all-glove team to earn him accolades.
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by Man Mountain on Aug 11, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In other news
Michael Phelps is a stud. Dominated the 200 free. New world record. Third gold.
by cesarhernandez on Aug 11, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mizzou alum
People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.
by crolfer on Aug 11, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm, no. He's not.
He’s a student at Michigan.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
by BLee2525 on Aug 11, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has there ever been an olympic swimming medal race
where the world record was not broken?
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
It seems to be the new swimsuits.
How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?
by jch24 on Aug 12, 2008 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone see the SportsCenter interview with Spitz?
He is a tense, bitter man.
by ken on Aug 12, 2008 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why don't we trade harang and phillips
for some more A ballers and completely bury this team…
The Reds are now the worst team in baseball, and we won’t be getting better anytime soon.
AKA redsfan68 Nobody listens to Andrew
by nlt-andrew68 on Aug 11, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's stretch our legs in another thread
http://www.redreporter.com/2008/8/11/591772/adam-dunn-continues-to-be
All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."
by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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