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After years of debate between strikeout-hating, fat-loathing Dunn bashers and on-base-and-home-run loving supporters, Adam from Milwaukee is now a Diamondback. Here's how the trade breaks down:

We get: Dallas Buck, a right-hander in Class A with low strikeout and walk rates but a low ERA who had Tommy John surgery last year; two players to be named; half of the remaining $4 million owed Dunn.

Arizona gets: 2 months + postseason of Dunn; two supplemental draft picks OR Dunn signed to an extended contract.

It's hard to tell who gets the better end without knowing who the players to be named are. But this day was bound to come, so say goodbye in whatever way you wish.

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Not possible

PTBNL’s cannot be on the 25-man roster.

"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey

by BLee2525 on Aug 11, 2008 4:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

this may be a different type of PTBNL

they may just be waiting for players to clear waivers. Theoretically, those players could be on the 25-man roster.

All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."

by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

FWIW

Arizona sources are reporting that the 2 PTBNLs are on the current 40 man

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by Man Mountain on Aug 11, 2008 4:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I should say "apparently reporting"

this is second or third hand from a comment on the BBTF thread

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by Man Mountain on Aug 11, 2008 4:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

They said that on WLW too.

Wonder who they are.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 11, 2008 4:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Seriously

Any requests for yelling at WLW guys? I’m on hold.

Overserved and underwhelmed.

by Pops Daniels on Aug 11, 2008 4:15 PM EDT   0 recs

Give em Hell!

Tell them the whole of RR hates them and to someday get on the website if they want to learn something.

by kennythered on Aug 11, 2008 4:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That'll show em

“I’ll have you know people on the internet don’t like this!”

Depending on the other two players this could still turn out to be a good deal. I’m just really bummed out by the party the Dunn bashers are throwing on the radio.

by Red Menace on Aug 11, 2008 4:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't let them steamroll you.

They don’t know their facts.

They don’t even know who plays LF now.

Phone's ringing, Dude.

by rjdio on Aug 11, 2008 4:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

please call them out...

about Dusty. This clown just spent 5 minutes defending Dustbag saying his hands are tied with this team.

by Hartung599 on Aug 11, 2008 4:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

How do the Reds score runs next year?

Remind them that the roster is built around a collection of out-makers. Dunn may not have been perfect, but at least he didn’t make outs hand over fist.

All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."

by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Also.

Tell them to dog you to your face, not after you hang up. Tell them to grow some balls.

Phone's ringing, Dude.

by rjdio on Aug 11, 2008 4:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Last thing.

Ask them why Corey Patterson still works here.

Phone's ringing, Dude.

by rjdio on Aug 11, 2008 4:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll try to occomodate all

Overserved and underwhelmed.

by Pops Daniels on Aug 11, 2008 4:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

clint westwood?

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Aug 11, 2008 4:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The neighborhood of Cincy

We’re considering a move back to town, and saw a couple cool houses there online. not sure how hit or miss it is.

by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 4:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

miss

Overserved and underwhelmed.

by Pops Daniels on Aug 11, 2008 4:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

good enough

should be interesting

by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 4:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

not a miss!

I actually live there, and it’s a great neighborhood. It has its share of problems (it is after all the largest neighborhood in Cincinnati) but I doubt you’ll find a better value for a house in all of Greater Cincinnati.

by pettycells on Aug 12, 2008 2:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

been looking at ft thomas (schools are good, supposedly)

by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 4:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

They are

My kids are going to go to Highlands.

Overserved and underwhelmed.

by Pops Daniels on Aug 11, 2008 4:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

sweet

will check it out

by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 4:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

budget

Think I can get a decent 3br house for $175ish?

by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 4:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I would guess so

When I moved from there in 2004, I sold a very nice 4 bedroom 3 bath house for $156k. I can’t imagine prices are that much higher.

All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."

by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks

much appreciated

by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 4:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not in Ft Thomas.

If you want something halfway nice. We looked there for 6 months. Nothing less than $250 was very nice.

I’d look Madeira / Kenwood / Blue Ash / Montgomery area, but seeing how I live here, I’m kind of partial. Madeira, Indian Hill and Sycamore are all good schools too.

Hey, if I had some place to go I certainly wouldn't be in 'Cleve-Land'. -H.T.Duck

by snohio on Aug 11, 2008 10:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I lived in Ft Thomas for a couple of years

it’s a good area to live in and it’s ridiculously simple to get to the park.

All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."

by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Holla

Overserved and underwhelmed.

by Pops Daniels on Aug 11, 2008 4:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Move to Kentucky.

Then maybe your kids end up becoming Brandon Webb and Mark Reynolds.

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 11, 2008 4:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

They have a wizard there.

Often wrong, never uncertain.

by sidnancy on Aug 11, 2008 4:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You're not the idiot ripping on Votto for eating sunflower seeds at first base, are you Pops?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 11, 2008 4:20 PM EDT   0 recs

no, I'm Matthew in Newport

Overserved and underwhelmed.

by Pops Daniels on Aug 11, 2008 4:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I know, I posted that before I saw you got back to me in the other thread :)

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 11, 2008 4:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh Shit

You’re On

Find me on MySpace- http://www.myspace.com/mixfmkyle

by MixFMKyle on Aug 11, 2008 4:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

They just cut me off

Overserved and underwhelmed.

by Pops Daniels on Aug 11, 2008 4:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

YES.

They had nothing, so they started talking about something else. ROCK ON POPS.

Phone's ringing, Dude.

by rjdio on Aug 11, 2008 4:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

WOW...

I know I’m late to the party but that WLW “promo” bashing Dunn is uncalled for. Would anyone else here still have a job in the morning if we pulled crap like that at our work?

WTF…is anything associated with the Red’s not an embarrasment right now?!?

by Hartung599 on Aug 11, 2008 4:23 PM EDT   0 recs

I turned it off when I heard that

Outside of games I almost never listen to WLW. Every time I do I’m disgusted by stuff like that. Stay classy, fellas.

by Red Menace on Aug 11, 2008 4:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Radio is different than the real world

/jch24’d

All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."

by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

dollas

it’s about making money. sound controversial, get people to listen, make money

Rush Limbaugh just signed a $200 mil contract. For being a liar.

by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 4:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think his title is "Big Fat Liar"

All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."

by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hey now

I’ve never said they’re ALL nice. I’ve had plenty of people I didn’t/don’t get along with.

Most are just regular guys who get paid to be bombastic for 3-4 hours at a time.

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 11, 2008 5:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

you are just grease for the cogs

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 5:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep

And I fully realize that.

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 11, 2008 5:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah

We all don’t give a shit about anyone.

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by MixFMKyle on Aug 11, 2008 4:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I hear the Hall of Fame is nice

It’ll be nice when Dunn’s inducted into that.

by Brendanukkah on Aug 11, 2008 4:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Does he go in as a Red?

Hmmm….

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 11, 2008 4:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

are you sure?

All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."

by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 4:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Shit

At the pace he is at prolly not first ballot but he may be worthy of the big one. Go to the Yankees, play LF/DH hit 45 bombs for 4 more years.

by kennythered on Aug 11, 2008 4:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You don't think he could hit 500?

That’s at least a spot on the ballot right there.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 11, 2008 4:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oh, there's a chance he might make it to Cooperstown

I’m just saying, were his career to end today, he’s absolutely in the Reds Hall of Fame.

by Brendanukkah on Aug 11, 2008 4:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Definitely.

Hell, Big Klu had his number retired.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 11, 2008 4:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Big Klu was loved by the peeps though

Dunn isn’t

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Aug 11, 2008 5:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Klu

I want to say that I read Klu was hated, more or less run out of town, then 10-15 years later people started realizing that they really did like him. Which is a totally Cincinnati way to look at someone.

by bobestes on Aug 11, 2008 5:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think you are correct

it was as a coach and community figure that he became almost iconic.

If I remember right he was coming off a bad, injury plagued season and was traded for a guy that never played for the Reds or maybe only a few games.

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Aug 11, 2008 5:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Please

Let us get Parker, everyone pray w/ me.

by kennythered on Aug 11, 2008 4:26 PM EDT   0 recs

This whole deal hinges on the PTBNLs

If those two suck, then this deal sucks. I’m dying for Parker, but I will be stunned if they actually get him.

by cesarhernandez on Aug 11, 2008 4:26 PM EDT   0 recs

I think

the Dbacks have already said that it’s not Parker

Manny Ramirez and the Dodgers: Filling the dubious shoes left open by Barry Bonds and the Giants.

by DbacksSkins on Aug 11, 2008 4:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

After thinking and figuring a little,

there is a chance one PTBNL could be Parker, who didn’t sign until the deadline last season. That means he can’t be traded until Aug. 15. There is hope!

Eight players it could be, within reason, who are on the Arizona 40-man roster but not the 25-man are: RHP Micah Owings, RHP Jailen Peguero, RHP Esmerling Vasquez, RHP Emiliano Fruto, RHP Juan Gutierrez, C WIlkin Castillo, 1B Javier Brito and 1B Josh Whitesell. Not an impressive lot by any means.

Four players remaining from Arizona’s top-10 prospects list in the preseason include AA OF Gerardo Parra, RHP Jarrod Parker, SS Reynaldo Navarro and RHP Barry Enright. I like Parra’s bat a lot and he plays CF. Parker is a dream acquisition. Navarro’s only in rookie ball but is talented. Enright is struggling in Hi-A.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Aug 11, 2008 5:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

so who do you think would make this deal balance out?

i suppose Parker is outta the question, i mean, i just dont have any faith right now that the Reds could ever do anything good. so who else could it be?

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 11, 2008 5:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If it's Owings and Parra,

this deal is easier to swallow. If Parker is in it, potentially it’s a big win.

Owings reportedly was one of the players offered for Teixiera. Also, Arizona reportedly offered Chad Tracy straight up for Dunn. I don’t know if that really happened, but if so, the players the Reds get back in this deal figure to be guys they like more than Tracy. Interesting.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Aug 11, 2008 5:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

There's really no chance the ptbnl is Parker, right?

I mean he’d be the name in the deal. Not for a 2 month rental. Even if the Backs plan on signing Dunn long term I doubt they’d offer Parker. The only GM I could see doing that is now returning video tapes for Walt Jocketty.

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by Man Mountain on Aug 11, 2008 6:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

parker couldn't be named until 9/15

pete rose to tony perez "how can anyone as slow as you pull a muscle?"

by dunnateher on Aug 11, 2008 6:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

8/15

pete rose to tony perez "how can anyone as slow as you pull a muscle?"

by dunnateher on Aug 11, 2008 6:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ah, yes

but I still can’t see any way he’s one of the peanut butter and jellies.

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by Man Mountain on Aug 11, 2008 6:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Any chance Scherzer clears waivers?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Aug 11, 2008 4:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

No

But he wouldnt have to

by kennythered on Aug 11, 2008 4:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs