Bailey Optioned, Ross D-F-A

by MixFMKyle on Aug 10, 2008 11:11 AM EDT

8-10-08 Returned RHP Aaron Harang from a rehabilitation assignment and reinstated him from the 15-day disabled list. Optioned RHP Homer Bailey to Triple-A Louisville. Designated C David Ross for assignment. Recalled C Ryan Hanigan from Louisville.

Ryan Hanigan will wear Mike Stanton's old #29.

I am really suprised they sent Bailey down. Let's get him right up here and work toward to 2009. He shows at times he is beginning to get it, and has not been any worse than Josh Fogg. If we are gonna eat Dave Ross Money, we might as well eat Josh Fogg, Paul Bako, AND Corey Patterson money.

Congrats to Ryan Hannigan, he deserved his promotion. Too bad Chris Dickerson didn't come with him, but I am still not all sold on him being a MLB Ready player.

Good luck to Dave Ross, he was a good guy with fans and had a great 2005. Injuries slowed him down the last 2 years, lets hope somewhere he can regain his '05 form.

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Kyle has a FanPost up about this, but: http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/team/transactions.jsp?c_id=cin

Homer down, Hanigan up, and Ross the Sauce DFA’d.

Sorry Ross. It was emotional.

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by Man Mountain on Aug 10, 2008 11:26 AM EDT 0 recs

woops

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by Man Mountain on Aug 10, 2008 11:27 AM EDT up 0 recs

thanks for the update, connie

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Aug 10, 2008 12:41 PM EDT up 0 recs

Makes sense

Ross is a better hitter and five years younger than Bako.

by ken on Aug 10, 2008 11:38 AM EDT 1 recs

Bavasi doesn't mess around

by Brendanukkah on Aug 10, 2008 11:39 AM EDT 0 recs

no waivers? at least try

good for Hans Ryan hope he can hit a little

pete rose to tony perez "how can anyone as slow as you pull a muscle?"

by dunnateher on Aug 10, 2008 11:42 AM EDT 0 recs

ugh

this team cant do anything right can they? Ross was the best of a group of terrible catchers (and the most expensive) but he gets the DFA. Bako stays because “he handles the young guys well” and LLM stays because “who else is gonna play 1B?” i sincerely hope he catches on with the Marlins and gives them a monster month.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 10, 2008 12:21 PM EDT 0 recs

He'll be back to pay his respects to Dusty, Walt and Billy when he has his 'monster month'.

Bailey seemed to be improving. What is going to AAA going to do for him,

You can tell your uncle stuff that you could not tell your dad. That is kind of the role of an uncle. I feel very much like a father sometimes but sometimes I feel like a teammate.
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by Madville on Aug 10, 2008 12:27 PM EDT up 0 recs

in what way was homer improving?

he’s given up 38 hits iand 18 runs in his past 4 starts —and in all those, he has given up one more earned run than he did in the previuous start. Remember the 15-hit outing? 3 starts ago. Or the 7 hits and 5 runs in 2 innings? 2 starts ago. Are you basing his “improvement” on the last start, in which he gave up 6 runs, 8 hits and 3 walks in 5+ innings?

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Aug 10, 2008 12:37 PM EDT up 0 recs

That fake bunt double was pretty keen

by Brendanukkah on Aug 10, 2008 12:46 PM EDT up 0 recs

Nevermind !

Trade his ass too

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by Madville on Aug 10, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up 0 recs

Ross

Bako works well with the pitchers and he’s a left-handed hitter and Ross makes more money. That’s why he’s gone. Hanigan had been playing well at Triple-A. He’ll probably see alot of action with Bako and Valentin riding the pine. Patterson, Affeldt, and Weathers are probably next. They need to take a look at Chris Dickerson, Dan Herrera, and Josh Roenicke. They have played well at Triple-A and deserve a shot soon. Daryl Thompson deserves another shot and Matt Maloney, as well.

by ebpunkin on Aug 10, 2008 7:42 PM EDT 0 recs

unless a team claims Ross on waivers or trades for him within the next 10 days

the Reds are on the hook for his entire salary.

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by justin007000 on Aug 10, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up 0 recs

I think someone has already claimed him

or they wouldn’t DFA him now.

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by BubbaFan on Aug 10, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up 0 recs

he went through trade waivers unclaimed

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Aug 11, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up 0 recs

if somebody claimed him, and they didn't want him

why wouldn’t they just let him go? I feel like he wasn’t claimed.

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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 12:26 AM EDT up 0 recs

Yeah

He’d be with another team by now if someone had claimed him, whether a trade was worked out or not.

by ken on Aug 11, 2008 8:15 AM EDT up 0 recs

They can pull a player off waivers, can't they?

IIRC, that’s what the Red Sox did last year with Manny. They put him on waivers. Of course he didn’t clear, but they couldn’t work out a trade, so they ended up keeping him.

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by BubbaFan on Aug 11, 2008 10:59 AM EDT up 0 recs

But if they are willing to dump him for nothing anyway

What’s the point of pulling him off waivers just to DFA him?

All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."

by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 11:03 AM EDT up 0 recs

I meant to add

because he still has to go through waivers anyway after being DFAd. So it’s not like they can just open up a trade route to anyone by DFAing him.

All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."

by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 11:04 AM EDT up 0 recs

Just a negotiating tactic

To try and force a trade rather than a waiver claim.

If he cleared waivers, wouldn’t he be assigned to Louisville by now?

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by BubbaFan on Aug 11, 2008 12:04 PM EDT up 0 recs

Not if he wasn't previously designated for assignment

A player can be placed on waivers without being designated. If he clears waivers, he is free to be traded to any other team. If he is claimed by a team while on waivers that’s when they can trade him or pull him off of waivers.

As boobs said, he cleared waivers though, so he could be traded to any willing bidder. So, the Reds have chosen to designate him, which means they could still trade him, but they have much less leverage now since he has already cleared waivers and if he chooses to refuse his assignment (likely), he’ll be a free agent.

All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."

by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up 0 recs

once again

ross cleared waivers. he went on, and nobody claimed him, and he got through, and then we DFAed him.

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Aug 11, 2008 11:40 AM EDT up 0 recs

but what if someone claimed him, and we pulled him back and/or couldn't work out a deal with the claiming team?

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by chandrathan on Aug 11, 2008 11:44 AM EDT up 0 recs

boobs is close minded and doesn't like to deal with what if situations after the fact

it’s because he’s lazy.

All I’ve ever done was be Juan Pierre," he said. "I don’t know why, for some reason, they’re just sticking it to me this year."

by Slyde on Aug 11, 2008 11:45 AM EDT up 0 recs

Then we'd keep him

Similar thing with Brian Giles. Red Sox claimed him but no deal could be struck (because of Giles’ no-trade clause), so he’s still with the Padres. If the Padres put Giles on waivers again, it’d be irrevocable.

by ken on Aug 11, 2008 11:47 AM EDT up 0 recs

but what if we put him on waivers pulled him back then put him back on waivers and wanted to pull him back again only to dfa him and not work out a trade, and then he accepted an assignment to louisville, and we traded him to the marlins in a three team

deal that included the yankees and netted us a-rod and giambi, whose contract expires after this season and should be worth two draft picks if we offer him arbitration, but we may want to keep him long term if he clears waivers

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by chandrathan on Aug 11, 2008 11:51 AM EDT up 2 recs

I Nominate You

for the “Longest Subject in History Award”

by kennythered on Aug 11, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up 1 recs

No more three-ways for Giambi

now that the mustache is gone.

by ken on Aug 11, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up 1 recs

Genius

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?

by jch24 on Aug 12, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up 0 recs

why DFA him if he's already cleared waivers?

It sounds like Dusty think there might be a chance they can work out a trade, but would anyone really be interested in trading for a player that they weren’t interested in putting a waiver claim on?

I suppose salary might make a difference, but it’s not like Ross is getting that much.

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by BubbaFan on Aug 11, 2008 12:16 PM EDT up 0 recs

completly unrleated

but i listened to Doc Rogers for the first time tonight. Does that man have a pulse? Like atleast Tracy is loud and obnixous. Doc is just like well I odn’t like going to teh ballpark because i am used to the exexcute treatment, and i don’t like the fan experiance, because when i am there i am evaluating players. Like you know, no fans evaluate players ever.

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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 1:21 AM EDT 0 recs

Doc is Dull, Self absorbed and is a perfect example of why the Reds have had such a dynamic executive corps(e).

Personally, I like to listen to Doc. I tape his show and play it at bedtime. His moronic droning puts me to sleep every time. Photograph of an average doc Rogers listener included:

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by Madville on Aug 11, 2008 7:52 AM EDT up 1 recs

i've been preaching this the whole season

Doc Rogers is terrible. Unbelievably bad. But did you know that he used to be a pitcher, Assistant Reds GM, and Twins Director of Farm teams?

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by chandrathan on Aug 11, 2008 8:56 AM EDT up 0 recs

Orioles, wasn't it?

"I got a list of demands written on the palm of my hands. I ball my fist and you're gonna know where I stand. We're living hand to mouth! Hand to mouth!"

by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Aug 11, 2008 9:08 AM EDT up 0 recs

this was the first time i listened

i don’t listen to 700 very much, except during game time.

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by justin007000 on Aug 11, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up 0 recs

Homer's lovin' Louisville

From Hal:

Pitcher Homer Bailey had some eye-opening things to say after he was optioned to Class AAA Louisville Sunday, about how he almost prefers it there.
When somebody said going back to Louisville again had to be a bummer, Bailey brightened and said, “It’s not the big leagues, but honestly I’m looking forward to it. They are seven or eight games up and in a playoff race. When I was down there before the guys were winning and there is good morale.

“Hopefully, I can help those guys win,” Bailey added. “I hope I can’t screw ‘em up too bad. I don’t know if they really want me. I haven’t had a win since April. Maybe they’ll say, ‘Hey, no, we don’t want Homer.’ “

They could even change their name to the NoHomers.

by ken on Aug 11, 2008 2:48 PM EDT 0 recs

Probably not politic for him to say that

But it bet it’s a real drag being in the Reds clubhouse these days.

Fay says they’re all looking at each other, wondering who’s next.

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by BubbaFan on Aug 11, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up 0 recs

it sounds like

“The Naked and the Dead” in there. i dont blame ‘em.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Aug 11, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up 0 recs

Don't need to wonder anymore

by ken on Aug 11, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up 0 recs

You think...

...the Reds are done after Dunn?

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by BubbaFan on Aug 11, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up 0 recs

Nah they've got to trade Arroyo, Harang and EdE

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Joey Votto traded as the Reds are probably headed for some kind of VP reclamation roster interspersed with rooks.

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by Madville on Aug 12, 2008 12:49 AM EDT up 0 recs