Report: Harang back to Cincinnati for MRI
by MixFMKyle on Jul 9, 2008 3:48 PM EDT
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From C. Trent Rosecrans at thelotd.com:
Aaron Harang will fly back to Cincinnati from Chicago to undergo an MRI following his career-high seven-walk performance on Tuesday night, the team announced on Wednesday.
Harang has struggled since throwing four innings in an extra-inning game in San Diego on May 25, going 1-5 with a 7.31 ERA since that outting.
Harang missed his scheduled start on Saturday and was pushed back to Tuesday with forearm stiffness. The team said he's still bothered by the injury.
If Harang is put on the disabled list, Daryl Thompson could step right in for him. Thompson allowed one run on six hits in six innings in Louisville on Tuesday, picking up the win for the Bats. Thompson, optioned to Louisville last week could be recalled if the Reds placed a player on the disabled list. Otherwise, Homer Bailey, who pitched well on Monday, could be recalled to start on Sunday.
I hope the injury is minor, and a couple weeks of DL time is all he needs. Obviously the 5-inning relief appearance could be a reason, or it could be something that has nagged him most of the year. He experienced a similar pain in 2006, and skipping a full turn remedied the problem.
I say no matter what, Harang should not make the start Sunday. Give him the rest and hope it heals up for post all star break.
As Trent Mentioned, the Reds have several options. If they choose not to DL Harang, they could hope Jeremy Affeldt can give them 4 or 5 innings and do a Bullpen game. In addition to Homer or Darryl, Matt Maloney or Matt Belisle could be options. (Belisle seems unlikely) Bobby Livingston is on his way back, but still looks to be atleast another 2 weeks off (unless there is a setback)
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"they could hope Jeremy Affeldt can give them 4 or 5 innings"
that’s like crack right there for shortstop.
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by Slyde on Jul 9, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha
Okay how about get 6 from Affeldt / Majewski?
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by MixFMKyle on Jul 9, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
6 what?
Earned runs? Yes.
Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.
by Paul Householder on Jul 10, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hal McCoy
Is Going out on a rather large limb.
He is predicting Harang will need Tommy John Surgery.
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by MixFMKyle on Jul 9, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that is in the back of my mind
but I think he is going out on a limb with his prediction. It would really suck if he needs TJ surgery, especially with the timing, because he wouldn’t be worth shit next year either. He wouldn’t be back until June or July, and would be spending much of the season trying to get a feel for pitching. The last reds pitcher I remember who strugled with “forearm tightness” was Eddie Guardado.
If Harang does have TJ, we can pin it straight on Jerry Narron. He fucking abused the hell outta Harang. Remember his 135 pitch outing on the last day of the season in 2006?
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by justin007000 on Jul 9, 2008 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Narron & Baker
Harang has been on the leaderboards for pitcher abuse points the last several years, including this one.
Looking at this year’s PAP “leaders” Harang comes in at 14th total PAP. It seems odd that Ben Sheet’s PAP (#1 in baseball) is almost twice as high as Harang, even though Sheets has thrown fewer total pitchers and averages the same # of pitches per start as Harang.
by rojosoto on Jul 10, 2008 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i am not saying that Baker hasn't added to Harangs abuse
but he can hardly be the one held responsible because he has only been here for a few months.
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by justin007000 on Jul 10, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
God this year gets more depressing
btw I voted my favorite HGH head case Jose Guillen and Carlos Lee over Pat the Bat for the last two spots in the All-Star game.
Can someone explain to me how Adam Dunn and Ryan Howard are not in this game but Fukedome and Carlos Guzman are…oh thats right Cubs Fans + that ‘every player gets at least one All-Star” rule.
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by Zach K on Jul 9, 2008 4:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Carlos Guzman?
You mean Cristian?
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by MixFMKyle on Jul 9, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dunn or Howard?
How about Pat Burrell? Dude has an OPS over 1.000 on a first place team, but Ryan Ludwick was chosen? Oh that’s right, Ludwick has 5 more RBI. Of course, he’s also had 15 more base runners on for him. And he’s a lovable story.
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by Slyde on Jul 9, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
Who wouldn’t want the second coming of Brady Anderson in the all-star game? Maybe there is something we fans don’t know about Pat, like maybe he really doesn’t like baseball all that much.
by Bill Doran on Jul 9, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When last we heard
Ryan Howard was headed to jail.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 9, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
would that exclude him from the All Star game?
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by Slyde on Jul 9, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't get it?
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by Zach K on Jul 9, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fucking watch the office
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by justin007000 on Jul 9, 2008 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One technical note
If the team were to bring up Maloney to start, that would burn one of his options. Bailey, Thompson, and Belisle have already used their options for this year. Once an option is used in a year, there’s no limit to how many times it can be used that year. It might make sense to go with one of those three, if they call someone up, and leave Maloney’s option for this year untouched.
Plus I don’t believe Maloney is major-league ready, but that’s beside the point.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 9, 2008 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So Josh Fogg is now our #4?
We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?
by Gray on Jul 9, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He was technically our number 4 at the start of the season too.
So we can expect him to suck just as much as he did in April. Hooray.
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by BK on Jul 9, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Volquez was our #5 to start the season
somewhere, God chuckles.
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
by Cy Schourek on Jul 9, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Harang needs...
Hmmm…
Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.
by Paul Householder on Jul 9, 2008 5:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
does he need...
Johnny Pronto?
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by justin007000 on Jul 9, 2008 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.
by Paul Householder on Jul 9, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW
Fay has updated his blog, and says it’s not serious. Harang is expected to make his next start.
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by BubbaFan on Jul 9, 2008 6:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
christ on a fucking cructh
i mean i am glad it isn’t serious, but i am not happy he is “expected to make his next start”, there is no reason to just not DL him, call somebody up to take his start on Sunday, and start one time after the Break (assuming he is on for the minimum 15 days) and give him some much needed rest, it isn’t as if this is a huge penant push and the downgrade to Darryl Thompson, Matt Maloney, Homer Bailey, or Matt Belisle would make a huge difference.
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by justin007000 on Jul 9, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But, um.
That’s not what Fay said…
Harang said he isn’t worried that something is seriously wrong.“No, just cause from what (Dr. Tim Kremchek) did examining last week . . . all the stuff he did was testing the ligament. With everything he did, if there was something wrong with the ligament, I would have screaming at him. He thought it was more muscle. Hopefully, it’s something minor that a good amount of rest will take care of,” Harang said.
Harang will not make his start schedule for Sunday.
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by Gray on Jul 9, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I replyed to Bubba's post
before i read the blog. Fay probably had a further update between 6:26 and now.
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by justin007000 on Jul 9, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He changed it
Originally, it said:
Harang will make his start schedule for Sunday.
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by BubbaFan on Jul 9, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poke-poke...
Aaron: Don’t you believe it!!!!!
Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.
by Paul Householder on Jul 9, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually Fay has further updated his blog
he won’t pitch on Sunday.
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by justin007000 on Jul 9, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he updated further...
He posted it with the lineup at 5:16.
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by Gray on Jul 9, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He edited it
Must have been a typo. (I know, Fay, a typo? What a shock.)
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by BubbaFan on Jul 9, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My rather large limb
I don’t think it’s a ligament issue.
He should shut it down for a couple of weeks, then see where it nets out. Sounds like a tired arm.
by bobestes on Jul 9, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and as far as c trent's "worst case scenario"
it’s kind of silly. I could one up him and say worst case scenario is that his arm will shatter from bone cancer like Dave Dravecky and have to have it amputated. Doesn’t mean it’s going to happen or is based on anything
by bobestes on Jul 9, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't think that thinking that TJ could be in Harangs future is unreasonable
I think it is a little early to start thinking about it, but it was in the back of my mind.
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by justin007000 on Jul 10, 2008 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus in a Jepp!!!
Fired Dickpolehead and Dustbagnuts and fire Dr. Tim..I’m telling you there are much better coaches and managers and Docs out there. Dump these losers BOB
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by Madville on Jul 9, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
have you been drinking again?
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by justin007000 on Jul 10, 2008 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harang to DL
According to Fay.
The MRI was normal, but he’s got a “forearm strain” and won’t be allowed to pick up a baseball for a week. (A strain is a euphemism for a muscle tear, so apparently TJ surgery is not in his future.)
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by BubbaFan on Jul 10, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But can Patterson go down to make room for Cabrera?
Please?
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by Gray on Jul 10, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i see a difference between Walt and Wayne
Wayne would have called up an extra reliever or bench player from the minors to give the Reds an extra player until Sunday, demoted him on Sunday and called up Bailey, and told reporters when asked about who will pitch on Sunday “someone will” (or was that Narron?).
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by justin007000 on Jul 10, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i remember in 2004
Harang started the season put up solid numbers, and in Mid-May he kinda collapsed, eventually went on the DL with a strained elbow, spent the minimum on the DL, and came back and showed no ill effect.
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by justin007000 on Jul 10, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bailey will start for Harang.
On Harang, another article with penetrating insight:
Speculation of an arm injury grew after the ace struggled following a four-inning emergency relief appearance on May 25. In eight starts since that outing, he is 1-5 with a 7.31 ERA and 63 hits allowed over 44 innings.
Ya think that just might have had something to do with it?
Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.
by Paul Householder on Jul 11, 2008 12:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder...
Has he really been suffering with a muscle tear since May?
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by BubbaFan on Jul 11, 2008 6:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps not a tear, but a strain?
I just remember last season when Narron abused Arroyo for about 129 pitches one day, then we got Badroyo for about five starts, then got Goodroyo after that.
Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.
by Paul Householder on Jul 11, 2008 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A strain is a tear
In the muscle, not the tendon.
I would think he’d have felt it sooner. But then, maybe he did, and didn’t say anything.
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by BubbaFan on Jul 11, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harangatang
doesnt feel pain. he is strong like a gorilla.
please dont shit on my dreams. i dont want shit on my dreams.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 11, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that relief appearance was what screwed Aaron up
It’s all on toothpick. And it really is a damn shame, because he was as dominating as anyone in the league for those 4 innings on May 25th. 9 Ks, right? But at what price?
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by chesirecat on Jul 11, 2008 10:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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