Griffey accepts the trade
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Seriously?
A second baseman OPSing .748 in AAA and a reliever with an ERA+ of 95 and a WHIP of 1.7? That’s the best we could do, even paying the rest of Griffey’s salary this season?
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 11:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank god I have tickets to the next three Reds games
Poop.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where are you hearing who we get back?
The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!
by TheC on Jul 31, 2008 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The link was in the other thread.
2B Danny Richar and RHP Nick Masset; some say we also pick up Griffey’s remaining salary this season.
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Link...
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks!
Why on earth do we need a underwhelming 2Bman ? What was the point of this trade? We don’t even get any money out of the deal because we’re still paying Griffey? Boy.. they must have really wanted Kenny out of Cincy.
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by TheC on Jul 31, 2008 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This will likely be a big thread again
so any images larger than 60kb will be deleted, no questions axed.
Bend over and drop your pants, Mr. Babar.
by Slyde on Jul 31, 2008 11:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
photos over 50K will be deleted immediately
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 11:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You guys should maybe talk amongst yourselves beforehand.
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
our statements are not contrasting
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or is boobs in charge of deleting pictures between 50k and 60k?
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
canadian style bureaucracy
right here in river city!
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by Man Mountain on Jul 31, 2008 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was a lot of posturing from myself and others
saying that the club should just take what they can get for Griffey. But this sucks.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 11:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think that was assuming we wouldnt' have to pay for it
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
waybe walt-o can hurry up and package them in another deal involving fogg or weathers
by joshuar9476 on Jul 31, 2008 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was gonna say that Masset makes Weathers irrelevant
coincidentally.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't get it
could you please link to the relevant urban dictionary entry. If it’s from wikipedia, however, just copy and paste it here in full with no links?
kthnx
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by Man Mountain on Jul 31, 2008 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
way too long already.
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's
gotta bat #3 now.
82 wins is gonna change everything!
by Pops Daniels on Jul 31, 2008 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the rest of the year
and then however long dusty wants to sign him for
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dunn rumours
THURSDAY, 10:33am: SI.com’s Jon Heyman says the Reds seek players such as Jeff Niemann and Jeremy Hellickson in a Dunn trade. Niemann probably could be had.WEDNESDAY, 10:13pm: Finally, some Dunn rumors. ESPN’s Jayson Stark says the Rays are talking with the Reds about Dunn, though he’s their Plan B to Jason Bay. I imagine Dunn would DH for the Rays.
9:25pm: According to SI.com’s Jon Heyman, the Diamondbacks offered Chad Tracy to the Reds for Adam Dunn. He says another NL team has also inquired on Dunn.
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 11:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
do not trade dunn ... sign him long term now
by joshuar9476 on Jul 31, 2008 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think you're going to have to argue that point here.
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good luck Grif and Good luck SOX
Now only 4.5 hours of agonizing and fretting left.
I am amazed that he accepted the trade and even more amazed that we got anything for the aged star. Not a bad deal,the Reds only have to pick up 4M of salary. This is a big win for Jocketty.
I wonder if any pitchers ala Weathers/Fogg/Affeldt are being shopped.
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by Madville on Jul 31, 2008 11:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
who has batted in the 3 spot when giff had the night off?
by joshuar9476 on Jul 31, 2008 11:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
#3
Bruce or Phillips.
Dunn has hit their twice in the past month
by rojosoto on Jul 31, 2008 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is the time to finally move phillips to 3
1. harriston
2. kepp
3. phillips
4. dunn
5. ede
6. votto
7. bruce
8. ross
by joshuar9476 on Jul 31, 2008 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's see...
4/7: BP
4/19: BP
4/27: Keppinger
5/3-5/6: BP
5/13: BP
5/29, 6/2-6/4: Bruce
6/17-6/18: Bruce
6/19: BP
6/25-6/26: BP
6/30: Dunn
7/13: Dunn
7/29: Dunn
So total count for the third spot:
Griffey 89, Phillips 10, Bruce 6, Dunn 3
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Three of those times
that BP was third, Griffey batted fourth. 4/19, 6/25, and 6/26. And 5/3-5/6, he batted second, with BP third.
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not so much disappointed with the return as I am with the fact that money is being sent as well
I didn’t expect to get a lot in the way of players, but then this isn’t even a money saving move.
Bend over and drop your pants, Mr. Babar.
by Slyde on Jul 31, 2008 11:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
exactly
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
obviously this is still kind of fuzzy
But if this is right it’s fucking inexcusable GMing.
I mean keep the fucking players and just get the money.
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by Man Mountain on Jul 31, 2008 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right
It’s gotta be one or the other. If it’s a salary dump, fine we’ll take shitty players, but the Sox gotta foot Griffey’s bill. If the Reds are paying, then give us a piece that’s potentially useful. I’d take someone like Maloney. I mean, it solved the Junior problem, sort of, but in kind of a crummy way.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my sentiment exactly
if we only get a pair of Dustrags AND we have to pay for it, its a bust. i guess this is the torturous final chapter in the story of Griffey in Cincy. ugh, i should have gotten the cliff’s notes.
please dont shit on my dreams. i dont want shit on my dreams.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 31, 2008 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not entirely true, as I see it. $4M is what we owe him for the rest of the season. We’d be buying him out for an additional 4 after the season is over.
by RedStalk on Jul 31, 2008 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chicago would get the draft choices if they offer him arbitration, right?
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think so
unless it is stipulated in the trade agreement. They should also have to pay the 4 mil if they decide not to pick up his option
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
by Caleb on Jul 31, 2008 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if the deal is as advertised
i think this is a bad deal for both teams. griffey has no logical place to play for the white sox, and we’re getting scrubs in return, but we still have to pay griffey’s salary. makes not much sense.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 11:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe it's a reaction to the throat slash?
Bend over and drop your pants, Mr. Babar.
by Slyde on Jul 31, 2008 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if thats the case
then it’s fucking inexcusable GMing
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brantley told them to dump him?
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if they get him for free, what's the bad deal for them?
by joshuar9476 on Jul 31, 2008 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
presumably it'll cost them 4 million when they decline his option
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
does the option transfer?
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im sure it does
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
because he makes them worse when he's introduced into their lineup
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they'll at least have the sense to bat him after their better hitters
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but if he plays in the field, their defense will suffer immensely
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
especially if he's in center.
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Josh Fogg to the Rockies
newest rumor!
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by Brent Beck on Jul 31, 2008 11:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
newest rumor from april
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Return in the other thread isnt confirmed is it?
Rosenthal still says its an unknown return.
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by MixFMKyle on Jul 31, 2008 11:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not a bad return IF the Reds weren't kicking in salary.
Even if they are, not much was going to come back.
Richar was behind Alberto Callaspo and Emilio Bonifacio, both of whem were traded, on Arizona’s depth chart before being dealt to Chicago for OF Aaron Cunningham in a deal I liked in favor in the Diamondbacks. The Sox envisioned Richar as a replacement for Tadahito Iguchi, but that didn’t work out well. Still Richar has hit well in the minors and has had decent OBP and SB numbers. He can play a little SS and 3B.
Masset was acquired with John Danks and Jake Rasner for Brandon McCarthy and David Paisano. Kenny Williams has a thing for hard throwers and Masset is one, having hit 98 mph. He starred in the Mexican Pacific League the winter before he was acquired, piquing Williams interest in him. He has a plus fastball, a hard mid-80s curve and a change and a cutter. His command is erratic. He was an 8th-round pick in the forgettable 2000 draft.
Both players are young enough to have value, but my expectations are quite tempered.
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by Thundering Turtle on Jul 31, 2008 11:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is bad
But I’m still saving my “Fucking Inexcusable GMing” tag until they decide that they don’t need to trade Weathers after all.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 11:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
or dunn for tracy and a bag of baseballs
by joshuar9476 on Jul 31, 2008 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't even want to think about losing Dunn
I’m gonna need a lot of booze tonight.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have set the World Record for the fastest beer consumption
in the quantity of 24 ozs.
That was when i thought getting hammered 24/7 though was the only thing good
Heres the YouTube link of proof
That was 2 weeks before I set the record with a World Record judge in attendance
Brent Jonathan Beck
by Brent Beck on Jul 31, 2008 11:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
percentages griff suffers a year ending injury in chicago?
by joshuar9476 on Jul 31, 2008 11:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How about over/under number of games he plays there?
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What we all secretly fear
Griffey breaks out and dominates the game again for a couple months like he never could do here.
The season doesn't start until the Cincinnati Reds take the field! Reclaim The Opener!!
by TheC on Jul 31, 2008 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it would be pretty cool to see him dominate in the playoffs
More likely if he plays center he’ll get embarrassed Uggla-ASG-style.
by Red Menace on Jul 31, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or like Mays, '73 WS
But yeah, it’d be awesome if he turned back the clock in October.
by ken on Jul 31, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as Cubs fans don't kick him in the head to make him lose an eye
I think he’ll be fine. He’ll probably be playing some 1B and also a little DH. CF could be tricky though.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why 1b? he's never played a lick of 1b in his life has he?
by joshuar9476 on Jul 31, 2008 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he hasnt played a lick of outfield in 2+ years, either
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I hope zero
I’d like to see him have some success. But I doubt the Sox make it to the playoffs.
Bend over and drop your pants, Mr. Babar.
by Slyde on Jul 31, 2008 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh you dont think?
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aren't they fading?
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm saying Tigers
Bend over and drop your pants, Mr. Babar.
by Slyde on Jul 31, 2008 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tigers baby
chisox have to compete with red sox and yankees for the wild card. thats a losing proposition
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Red Sox are probably losing Manny's bat
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if they get bay, its almost a wash
plus they get him for another year
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and getting Jason Bay's
not a huge downgrade
Bend over and drop your pants, Mr. Babar.
by Slyde on Jul 31, 2008 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why the Rays need to swoop in and get Bay
And then we can keep Dunn.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently the Reds are pyain half of his remaining salary
and half of his buyout
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 11:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
says who
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Sources"
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i love that in the story it says that the story was broke on foxsports ... that must suck for them
by joshuar9476 on Jul 31, 2008 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they probably backdated their timestamp
right Buster?
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
umm... yeah. that must really suck
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still four million
Or a tick over. Probably more than what the buyout would cost, but less than what the rest of his salary this year is.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So who did we get officially or is that not known yet?
I wish it was “OUR MANAGER” for “THEIR MANAGER”
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by Brent Beck on Jul 31, 2008 12:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ken Griffey Jr traded to White Sox, breaks wrist signing trade agreement
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 12:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha an injury joke!! funny!!!
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who did we get officially the releiver and 2b thats it?
No Swisher, no awesomeness
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by Brent Beck on Jul 31, 2008 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where would Swisher play on the Reds?
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by Caleb on Jul 31, 2008 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
um anywhere
he could play pocket pool and i would be happy
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by Brent Beck on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dudes 27...... dudes awesome....
dudes named Swisher
Brent Jonathan Beck
by Brent Beck on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The first song on my shuffle today was "The Swish"
Coincidence? Or irrelevant?
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a little of both
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what is Swisher's contract status?
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
by Caleb on Jul 31, 2008 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, you're awesome
You have a “Certificate of Accomplishment in Basketball General Manager and Scouting Course?”
sweet.
by bengalred on Jul 31, 2008 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Far as I know
They still haven’t officially announced who we’re getting in return, but it’s sounding like we’re definitely paying $4M.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i basically stole it from fark
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So will Griff come back next yer to the Reds...
as a cheaper, part timer?
Some media outlets have categorized Griffey as untradeable because of the widespread perception he would insist on having his $16.5 million option exercised in conjunction with a deal. But sources said Griffey was willing to consider returning to Cincinnati for a lower annual price if the Reds might consider tacking an extra year onto his deal.
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
by Caleb on Jul 31, 2008 12:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I could see that happening
Kinda like when Gary Payton left the Celtics a few years ago so they could get a player to bolster the team and then came back…. Brent Barry with the Spurs this year…. I could see it… get a chance to win it all for half a season…. then come back when the Reds are more experienced and a contender themselves!
fa sho doh homes I luddat Caleb
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by Brent Beck on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
That means, he was willing to renegotiate his deal on the option for next year.
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by MixFMKyle on Jul 31, 2008 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ain't gonna happen, Grif won't come here to play for 'fun'
Maybe Tampa Bay or Atlanta. I don’t see him wanting to come back here as a part-timer and where would he play. Maybe he’d consider an AL team just so he could get some DHing
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by Madville on Jul 31, 2008 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No more
It’s time to move on Brett Favre
82 wins is gonna change everything!
by Pops Daniels on Jul 31, 2008 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ESPN BREAKING STORY: Just made it offical at 12:02 pm
Trade of Griffey to White Sox now requires MLB’s approval
Brent Jonathan Beck
by Brent Beck on Jul 31, 2008 12:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“The Reds will receive pitcher Nick Masset and infielder Danny Richar in return.”
Brent Jonathan Beck
by Brent Beck on Jul 31, 2008 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scouting Report:
“Richar can flat out fly, when he’s at full strength. “
“Richar has a cannon for an arm”
but…
they continued to say he is “washed up” and missed his chance, that was in 2006…. wow, I dont know about this deal…
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by Brent Beck on Jul 31, 2008 12:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
danny richar sucks
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's crummy
We’re saving $4M, but I would have liked those draft picks.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dunno if you could take the chance of offering griffey arbitration
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like we just bolstered....
THE FUCKIN LOUISVILLE BATS!!!!
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by Brent Beck on Jul 31, 2008 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not even sure if this is "bolstering"
Just adding bodies.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Masset is outta options
The Dusty Path to the World Series!*
*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.
by justin007000 on Jul 31, 2008 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably just a draft pick
Not sure Griffey would be Type-A next year.
Bend over and drop your pants, Mr. Babar.
by Slyde on Jul 31, 2008 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
brendan needs a hug!
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
where's mom?
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
by Caleb on Jul 31, 2008 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This means that for the Red Reporter outing on Saturday
not only is Josh Fogg starting (though there’s still time to trade him, Walt!), but Corey Patterson is almost assuredly going to start the game as well.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that coupled with the nationals and you are in for some quality baseball!
That's a Coincidence and Irrelevant!
by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take a sign with his up-to-date OBP
probably want to take a calculator too. Or google.
Bend over and drop your pants, Mr. Babar.
by Slyde on Jul 31, 2008 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dunn/Diamond Backs trade rumors:
IF we do trade Dunn to the D’bags, the only way I will be excited about the trade is if we get Daniel Schlereth, son of former Denver Bronco great and current ESPN analyst Mark Schlereth.
Daniel Schlereth
LHP | Arizona
Selected by: Diamondbacks
Round: 1
PK(OVR): 26(26)
Ultimate Role: Setup man
Summary: Schlereth didn’t sign last year as a draft-eligible sophomore when he was taken by Oakland in the 8th round. He clearly made the right decision as he’s about to cash in with top-50 money, perhaps even first-round money. The son of ESPN football analyst Mark Schlereth, Daniel has seen his stuff jump up in the last few weeks leading up to the draft, with both his fastball and breaking ball ticking up to 65 or 70 on the grading scale. Schlereth’s delivery is another story, as there’s a ton of effort in it and it has more recoil than a plumber’s snake. He’s already had Tommy John surgery. He could be in the big leagues this year and should be able to get left-handed hitters out with either of his two pitches; his range of possible outcomes is small, however, from left-handed specialist to dominant setup man.

That would be awesome!
He is 22 and might make the majors by seasons end…. might be untouchable but, Dunn is leading the league in HR now
Brent Jonathan Beck
by Brent Beck on Jul 31, 2008 12:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he cant be traded for a year
so no
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh
in my mind us trading Griffey freed up money to re-sign Dunn anyways
just making ideas
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by Brent Beck on Jul 31, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Just making ideas."
I like that.
Kinda like: “Just thinking breakfast.”
"Being a human cannonball is not just a job, Pee Wee. It's a career."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 31, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brent Beck says that is a coincidence and irrelevant
That's a Coincidence and Irrelevant!
by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about: JARROD PARKER
Ht: 6-1 Wt: 175
Position: SP
Bats: R
Throws: R
Date of Birth: 11/24/1988
Birthplace: Ossian, IN
Experience: Prospect
High School: Norwell HS
(Ossian, IN)

Draft
Parker was drafted by the Arizona Diamondbacks with the 9th overall pick of the 2007 amateur draft and signed with the Diamondbacks on August 15, 2007 for $2.1 million, up from the MLB recommended slot amount of $1.89 million.
even better! “guitar solo”
Brent Jonathan Beck
by Brent Beck on Jul 31, 2008 12:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They aren't gonna give up Parker.
Nor Scherzer, nor Conor Jackson. They wouldn’t put those guys on the table for Teix, they won’t do it for Dunn.
by Geki on Jul 31, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would do Dunn and Thompson for Jarrod Parker
if they are set on trading Dunn, I would be sad but a top ten talent pitcher makes me happy
Brent Jonathan Beck
by Brent Beck on Jul 31, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he can't be traded until after August 15th.
Bend over and drop your pants, Mr. Babar.
by Slyde on Jul 31, 2008 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn that sucks
Brent Jonathan Beck
by Brent Beck on Jul 31, 2008 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He could be traded as a "player to be named later"
As long as he’s eligible to be traded within six months. PTBNLs must be named within six months.
Not that I think they’re gonna trade him.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
by BubbaFan on Jul 31, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Slyde just got BubbaF'd!
That is a Coincidence and Irrelevant!
by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
breny beck
here’s a list of things you need to stop doing:
1) Posting pictures greater than 60K
2) Splitting conversation threads with diaries of identical subject matter
3) Posting material from other Web sites without including a link. Mass copy/paste in general.
4) Sherm
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 12:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
alright ill leave
bye guys
love brent
Brent Jonathan Beck
by Brent Beck on Jul 31, 2008 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i didnt say you had to leave
just follow a few ground rules that other people have no trouble following
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't let the door hit you in the brain
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
by BubbaFan on Jul 31, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why so many rules?
what is this letsgotribe!?
That is a Coincidence and Irrelevant!
by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
Bend over and drop your pants, Mr. Babar.
by Slyde on Jul 31, 2008 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
awesome! I love that place!
That is a Coincidence and Irrelevant!
by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah i see what you did there...took me a minute
subtle
That is a Coincidence and Irrelevant!
by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'll even rec it!
That is a Coincidence and Irrelevant!
by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You didn't get it...
Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.
by Paul Householder on Jul 31, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this is a problem with not using subjects
for some reason, it deletes the asterisk on highlighted comments
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we're talking about the design/functionality of RR
Might I suggest that all links pop (open in a new window/tab)? Would anyone be opposed to that? The reason being that if I click on a link halfway through the unread comments and it opens in the same window, I mumble, “shit…” and hit back. When I return to the thread, the read/unread shading is ALL fuckered up.
How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?
by jch24 on Aug 1, 2008 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Agreed 100%
"I got a list of demands written on the palm of my hands. I ball my fist and you're gonna know where I stand. We're living hand to mouth! Hand to mouth!"
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Aug 1, 2008 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sent an email to SBN
Explaining the situation, hopefully I’ll hear something.
How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?
by jch24 on Aug 1, 2008 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Radicool.
"I got a list of demands written on the palm of my hands. I ball my fist and you're gonna know where I stand. We're living hand to mouth! Hand to mouth!"
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Aug 1, 2008 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in one week!
That is a Coincidence and Irrelevant!
by chandrathan on Aug 1, 2008 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, shit
This is the mail system at host smtp.dailykos.com.I’m sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It’s attached below.For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.The mail system<bugreport@sbnation.com>: host mail.satanosphere.com[69.9.170.114] said: 550
<bugreport@sbnation.com>: Recipient address rejected: Mail appeared to be
SPAM or forged. Ask your Mail/DNS-Administrator to correct HELO and DNS MX
settings or to get removed from DNSBLs; in postmaster.rfc-ignorant.org; in
abuse.rfc-ignorant.org (in reply to RCPT TO command)
Would an admin like to help me out here? I’ll be happy to forward my email to whomever.
How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?
by jch24 on Aug 1, 2008 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
where did you send it? this is the address that works for me
That is a Coincidence and Irrelevant!
by chandrathan on Aug 1, 2008 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
spanks
How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?
by jch24 on Aug 1, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No problem
and good luck!
"Video games don't make people more violent, and I'll kill anyone who disagrees." ~ Gord
by chandrathan on Aug 1, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
UPDATE
Just got this back:
Jeremy,I appreciate you sending in a report about this. We’re aware of this behavior and realize it’s neither expected or ideal. Several folks have already sent us similar reports so we’re already working on a solution.
In the meantime, yes, I would recommend right-clicking links from threads so that when you return you haven’t lost your status reading the comments.
Thanks,
(clockwerks)
So they’re working on it. And I got a response within an hour and a half, color me impressed with their responsiveness.
How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?
by jch24 on Aug 1, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'ing this
Happens to me all the time and pisses my shit off. I hope if enough people rec it, the head honchos will notice.
by Brendanukkah on Aug 1, 2008 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you use firefox?
If so, it’s easy to right click and select “open link in new tab” on any link. You can also set it up so that middle-clicking opens a link in a new tab. It’s great when you want to open a link, but not lose your current page.
You may be able to do the same thing in IE, but I don’t know, since I haven’t used IE in years.
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Aug 1, 2008 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can select "open link in new tab" in IE
But I don’t know if there’s a default option. I would use Firefox more but it’s always given me problem with GameDay.
by ken on Aug 1, 2008 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i use maxthon and everything i click automatically opens in a new tab
That is a Coincidence and Irrelevant!
by chandrathan on Aug 1, 2008 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Try looking through the preferences...
and have you tried FF recently? I’ve had much better luck with version 3.
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Aug 1, 2008 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think middle clicking opens a link in a new tab by default
in IE. Have you tried that?
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Aug 1, 2008 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So
$4 million and two ragamuffins > the arb. possibility and buyout.
82 wins is gonna change everything!
by Pops Daniels on Jul 31, 2008 12:27 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
is that a question or a statement?
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a question.
82 wins is gonna change everything!
by Pops Daniels on Jul 31, 2008 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
put that way
I think I can agree with that.
Bend over and drop your pants, Mr. Babar.
by Slyde on Jul 31, 2008 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
$4 mil going out that is
82 wins is gonna change everything!
by Pops Daniels on Jul 31, 2008 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep - A OK, Pops as usual concise and subtle
now to what really matters – Adam Dunn.
I often think how different the world would be if Hitler had not been turned down when he applied for art school. - George Carlin
by Madville on Jul 31, 2008 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
IM BACK
Wooooo
What about if we trade Dunn to the Rays for Jacob McGee:
He is ranked by Baseball Prospectus (in 2007) as a 4 star prospect, number 6 overall in the Rays system at the time. I kinda luddat guy, knowing he was drafted in 2004, he is eligible for trade, and Davis and Wade aren’t (likely untouchable anyways). What do you guys think?
Full Name: Jacob D. McGee
Born: August 6,1986 in San Jose, California
Height: 6-3 Weight: 190 Bats: Left Throws: Left
High School: Reed (Sparks,NV)
Drafted: Selected by Tampa Bay Devil Rays in 5th Round (135th overall) of 2004 amateur entry draft (June-Reg)
(the above information came from The Baseball Cube)

(Picture = 6.14kb, is that legal or just barely legal?)
Brent Jonathan Beck
by Brent Beck on Jul 31, 2008 12:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dude if we trade with the Rays we're getting Carl Crawford
that has been decided for a while
That is a Coincidence and Irrelevant!
by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is he even good or exciting?
Brent Jonathan Beck
by Brent Beck on Jul 31, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was that post all legal or is it breakin the law still?
Brent Jonathan Beck
by Brent Beck on Jul 31, 2008 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
totally legal
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Madville disapproves
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 31, 2008 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True I disapprove any and all trading of Adam Dunn
What good could possibly come out such a move for the Reds. How does a team make up for that loss in production.
I often think how different the world would be if Hitler had not been turned down when he applied for art school. - George Carlin
by Madville on Jul 31, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
McGee had Tommy John surgery earlier this year.
Like the upside if he’s healthy but that’s a dumb risk to take.
by Geki on Jul 31, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont be mad, but....
Lynch leaves Broncos, weighs options on and off field
The Bengals could FOR SURE use help at safety and need a better leader on defense than Dhani Jones…... cya Dexter Jackson! That would be so bad ass if we got John Lynch on our defense!!!!!!!!!!
Brent Jonathan Beck
by Brent Beck on Jul 31, 2008 12:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they can flip Danny Richar for him.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jul 31, 2008 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it has become quite easy to flip John Lynch in recent years
Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
Details at Sinful Savage Tigers on MySpace.
by Man Mountain on Jul 31, 2008 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Dunn to Tampa Bay?
Posted by Jayson Stark at ESPN.com:
It now looks as if the Rays won’t make a deal of any kind between now and the deadline. According to sources who have spoken with them, they’ve backed off on Adam Dunn because he makes their lineup too left-handed, and they’ve been informed by Pittsburgh that Jason Bay is likely to go somewhere else.
The Rays and Colorado had already agreed Wednesday that they didn’t have what it takes to get Brian Fuentes, if the Rockies decide to trade him at all Thursday. And that looks less likely all the time.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jul 31, 2008 12:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lineup too left-handed
That’s what Dusty’s been saying!
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We all know what that really means

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
Details at Sinful Savage Tigers on MySpace.
by Man Mountain on Jul 31, 2008 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
left-handed means hot chicks?
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mm-hmm

Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
Details at Sinful Savage Tigers on MySpace.
by Man Mountain on Jul 31, 2008 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I’m glad I slept till 1230, it left me way behind today…
One the whole, this trade seems okay. We saved good money and traded a headache, though we got nothing of worth back. I honestly believe this deal means the resigning of Dunn.
by kennythered on Jul 31, 2008 12:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hope you are correct Kenny
This picture just in. Team reaction th Griff’s trade -

I often think how different the world would be if Hitler had not been turned down when he applied for art school. - George Carlin
by Madville on Jul 31, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yipee!
You guys got a bag of peanuts for Griffey! Enjoy!
by Monkeyspanked on Jul 31, 2008 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BBTN breaking down the trade on espn news
by joshuar9476 on Jul 31, 2008 1:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not much to break down
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
by Caleb on Jul 31, 2008 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tim k really like the 2nd baseman we get ... tim is about the only one i like and trust on that show
by joshuar9476 on Jul 31, 2008 1:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm starting to warm to Bullpen Help, whatever his name was
I don’t like that he’s 26, but at least he’s been pitching in the majors.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't really see what there is to like.
He’s not a prospect, and he plays a position where we don’t need him. Now if they move him back to SS… I’d be intrigued.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 31, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about
Phillips making a move to shortstop? He has the tools to make the transition.
Bruce Bonser? Boone Bonser? Boot Bonser? BOOSE BONZER?
by Lakeman on Jul 31, 2008 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That will be a necessary move once they sign Mark Ellis this off season
Bend over and drop your pants, Mr. Babar.
by Slyde on Jul 31, 2008 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fingers crossed
We’ve got Griffey money to throw around now.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Happy
Happy for Griff, he deserves to at least play in the playoffs one more time.
In my mind, this was a “nice thing to do” trade, a la Ray Borque going to the Col Avalanche and winning the Stanley Cup. Griffey is too great a figure in baseball history to finish below .500 in cincinnati, get his option declined, and go begging for a part time gig next season. This at least gives him a shot.
As far as what we got in the deal, I could really care less.
by bobestes on Jul 31, 2008 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
This is what I was thinking.
But I may be a naiive and sentimental dummy.
"Being a human cannonball is not just a job, Pee Wee. It's a career."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 31, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did grif nix a trade to the chi sox the year they won the ws?
by joshuar9476 on Jul 31, 2008 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like this quote from Dusty, via Fay...
“They wanted Junior badly. We didn’t approach them. They approached us.”
...which is why they offered so much in return, obviously.
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 1:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well
That’s pretty much what they got, Junior badly.
82 wins is gonna change everything!
by Pops Daniels on Jul 31, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, what are we looking at for roster moves?
Hairston off the DL, Masset to the ‘pen, with Coffey going down? C-Dick coming up?
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 31, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really wish we would just call up Dickerson already
but I guess it isn’t going to happen until the roster expands, since Hairston is coming off the DL. Demoting Patterson for him sounds like the way to go. I’d even rather see him starting in CF, with Hairston at short for a while and Keppinger the fill-in, since Keppinger hasn’t exactly been excelling recently.
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is hairston ready to go?
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
by Caleb on Jul 31, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's playing rehab games
He could be back with the team by tomorrow, I think.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hal was on with marty yesterday
he said that he thought that Hairston was coming back today.
If you're not having fun, stop participating.
by redandblue on Jul 31, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine
But the next game is tomorrow.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I assume they'll let him play one more in AAA
since he’s already in Charlotte and they play again tonight. He just has to make it to DC by tomorrow night, after all.
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
since when do we need to be correct with minor details?
Is this one of Boobs new rules?
If you're not having fun, stop participating.
by redandblue on Jul 31, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's rehabbed two games at AAA according to MiLB
1 for 6 with a HR last night which appears to be a grand slam. No walks, one K.
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh.
Three-run home run, and a sac fly to score another run.
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dickerson, incidentally
had a HR and a double in 4 ABs. He’s now hitting .279/.382/.481, with 24 SB (and 7 CS).
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's a hell of a throat clearing
excuse me, ah, Walt…..
Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
Details at Sinful Savage Tigers on MySpace.
by Man Mountain on Jul 31, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just went to lunch and listened to local radio
I’m still baffled as to how much love the people of Cincinnati have for Pete Rose
That is a Coincidence and Irrelevant!
by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Joe Sheehan saying that Masset projects to be a back of the rotation starter.
by BK on Jul 31, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
After all, what this team needs is more back of the rotation starters.
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought we were going to get mike cameron and brett tomko
That is a Coincidence and Irrelevant!
by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like what he says about Richar, as well.
Richar, 25, has speed, pop, and absolutely no place to play in Cincinnati. He’s not a shortstop, and Brandon Phillips does every single thing better than he does.
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe he can play left field
That is a Coincidence and Irrelevant!
by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok :-(
That is a Coincidence and Irrelevant!
by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we can flip him to the Astros.
A Pence/Richar pairing in the lineup would give Brendan a heart attack.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 31, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heart attack? No.
It just makes me think of kissing Rachael Leigh Cook, and that ain’t a bad thing.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
she was on psych last week...
she was cross eyed and had a weird voice…
me no likey
That is a Coincidence and Irrelevant!
by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have noticed that..
heart attack jokes aren’t as funny as they used to be
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
by Caleb on Jul 31, 2008 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't mean anything by it.
Boobs is enrolling me in RR Sensitivity Training starting Monday.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 31, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How's the rehab coming along, by the way?
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 31, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Other than an 8-game stint in AA in 2006
Masset’s not been very good as a SP. He’s more of a two-pitch pitcher—fastball and curve. The cutter and change aren’t above average. He brings some serious heat, though. If there is such thing as a situational righty (roogy?), he might be it.
We Are ... Marshall!
by Thundering Turtle on Jul 31, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Dustbag has his way it will be the 'allscrappy' team on Friday
Cherry LF
Richar 2b
BP ss
Bako C
EdE 3b
Patterson CF
Bruce RF
Votto 1b
Fogg P
If only he can figure a way to get Kepp in at 3B.
I often think how different the world would be if Hitler had not been turned down when he applied for art school. - George Carlin
by Madville on Jul 31, 2008 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this trade blows
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd
If for no other reason than because it succinctly sums up all my thoughts. Thank god Dunn’s a lefty or Jocko would’ve effectively vasectomized this team in 24 hours
I got 99 problems but a job ain't one.
by chesirecat on Jul 31, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
really?
Griffey was barely replacement level this year. I don’t like spending the money, but what should they have gotten for him prospect-wise?
Bend over and drop your pants, Mr. Babar.
by Slyde on Jul 31, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you on the money
We’re paying 4 mill for a 2 pitch pitcher and a 2B (not exactly the team’s position of need)? If you’re gonna dump salary, dump salary. Hell, I hope it works for both teams and these guys suddenly blossom while Griff leads the Sox to the playoffs, but it sure doesn’t look like it
I got 99 problems but a job ain't one.
by chesirecat on Jul 31, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
griffey is still griffey
he brings a big name and marketing possibilities, and he has OPSed .877 since May 30 with 10 homers in 51 games with a .503 SLG. He had a horrendous start to the year, and he can’t play defense to save his life, but he’s still got the ability to provide an awesome DH to an AL team. We gave that up for $4M plus what appear to be a couple scrub minor leaguers.
I don’t really think Chicago got the better end of the deal (Griffey has almost no place to play there and appears to be a horrible match), but as a Reds fan nothing excites me about our haul. So, for me, it blows.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't be saying anything about having Dunn here until 4 or so.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 31, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true enough
I got 99 problems but a job ain't one.
by chesirecat on Jul 31, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With all due respect
you’re out of your mind if you thought we could get anything more than we got for Griffey.
He’s a legend. Send him to a contender in the hopes that he gets a ring. Don’t think other players don’t notice that. Classy organizations do stuff like this.
by bobestes on Jul 31, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats not the point
as i said above, there’s nothing exciting about this haul. so it absolutely blows for me. it blows.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry
Look at it this way – it gives Griffey, who is a class act and has deserved much better than he got in his 9 years here, a chance to go to the playoffs and potentially get ring. To that end, it makes me happy.
by bobestes on Jul 31, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i guess
im happy for him, although i dont think the white sox are going to the playoffs so ultimately i think it will be another disappointment. but as a reds fan, i like having him around if the alternative is masset and richar
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a class act who makes throat slash gestures
tells the fans that he’d rather be out on his boat, makes vague threats to managers who double switch him, whines about being moved out of center, and intimates that he might raise hell if he’s moved down in the order?
I pretty much agree with you, but one could make a compelling anti-Griffey argument.
Kentuck Arts Festival: October 18th.
Details at Sinful Savage Tigers on MySpace.
by Man Mountain on Jul 31, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
had anyone else heard about the
fan-taunting incident that Hal McCoy mentioned in his blog post today?
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, but it looks like the Reds are already in Washington
I’m a couple blocks from the hotel where they stayed last year. If I hurry, maybe I can still catch Junya.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hal
On the last homestand Griffey reportedly cursed out a fan in right field and the fan told an usher, who wasn’t going to report it until a security guard told him he heard what Griffey said.Then came the throat-cutting gesture and the mouthed epithets toward Brantley in the broadcast booth last Saturday in Cincinnati.
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I pretty much agree with you.
However, I remember Griffey’s shift to RF somewhat differently. He may have been just putting on his “professional” face for the public but I thought last spring (‘07) Junior pretty much kept saying, “Hey man, I’ll do whatever Jerry wants me to do.” last spring.
/defending Junior
"Being a human cannonball is not just a job, Pee Wee. It's a career."
by Fat Vegas Alan on Jul 31, 2008 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW it is too bad that Dusty is so hated in Chicago
I would like to have seen him traded to the cubs for Lou and a pitching coach TBL
I often think how different the world would be if Hitler had not been turned down when he applied for art school. - George Carlin
by Madville on Jul 31, 2008 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you want Larry Rothschild?
I mean wasn’t he the pitching coach when Prior and Wood were ruined? Plus Lou isn’t much better than Dusty, I mean he rides his young pitchers just as hard if not harder. There are some articles about young pitchers Lou ruined on baseballprospectus.
The Dusty Path to the World Series!*
*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.
by justin007000 on Jul 31, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB.com
says we are trying to trade for Nelson Cruz to replace griffey…
great
That is a Coincidence and Irrelevant!
by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe that means flipping either Richar or Masset for him.
Maybe it’s part of a bigger deal that brings a catcher from Texas. Hey, where’s that Adam Dunn guy from anyway?
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by Thundering Turtle on Jul 31, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if we were trading adam dunn, and/or getting a catcher from texas
i think they would’ve been mentioned in the rumors
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I'd trade both of them for him.
We could actually use a decent-hitting, speedy (24 SB/7 CS) right-handed outfielder. We can’t really use the other two.
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't Dickerson have 24 SB/7 CS?
But is he left-handed?
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, and yes.
He is hitting better than Dickerson in AAA, but he also has more of a record of not translating that into major league success.
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm really impressed that both teams screwed this up so badly.
This isn’t a good trade for either team. The Sox have no place to play him on defense (they think he’ll end up playing CF or 1B, seriously), and if this was a salary dump, why are we paying half of his salary/buyout? I’ve had time to let this one set it, and I really hope it’s not Walt’s best work.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 31, 2008 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm reserving judgment given the possibility that he's going to
work some magic with what he got. If he can get something we can use more than a back-of-the-rotation starter and a crappy 2B, I wouldn’t feel too bad about only dumping half of the remaining salary.
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So far
This is the exact opposite of the Hamilton/Volquez trade.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a weird trade
But I don’t know that we’ve screwed up. The Sox have, for the reasons you give. But we still save $4mm, and Griffey wasn’t going to fetch anything worthwhile. He’s basically replacement level at this point.
by ken on Jul 31, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of where folks are from...
Danny Richar is from the same town in the Dominican Republic, La Romana as EdE. And they were born in the same year. I am guessing they know each other already. Maybe he bolsters our community of young Domincans and with the guidance of CoCo they all get better together over the next few years.
Another thought, not sure if it has been mentioned yet, Griffey chasing Sosa will be a much bigger deal in Chi-Town. Not that winning teams (or teams in general) in Chicago have trouble putting fans in the seats.
Tanzen!
by Verka Serduchka on Jul 31, 2008 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The White Sox fans should love that...
but they might not have long before he ties Sosa. Isn’t he one HR away?
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Off today's topic, but still:
How did Jerry Hairston garner the nickname Cherry Hudson?
by onemoreredoctober on Jul 31, 2008 2:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
http://www.redreporter.com/2008/4/24/460138/cueto-mediocre-reds-lose-t#5445286
Bend over and drop your pants, Mr. Babar.
by Slyde on Jul 31, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, that’s REAL obscure!
by onemoreredoctober on Jul 31, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not around here
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not around here, but I’d have a tough time explaining to my friends why I called him Cherry Hudson.
by onemoreredoctober on Jul 31, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just tell them that's what all of the cool kids call him
Bend over and drop your pants, Mr. Babar.
by Slyde on Jul 31, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you have friends away from here?
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you have friends that wouldn't get that joke?
that means you have friends outside of this blog, and i don’t understand what you are talking about
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
have you read the wiki?
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t think it was on there.
by onemoreredoctober on Jul 31, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it may not be, but there's some obscure stuff.
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's on the wiki
But nobody has actually written the tale.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tough break with the trade
Did you have your Griffey jersey folded on top of the dresser, all ready to go?
by ken on Jul 31, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Believe it or not, I don't actually own any Reds clothing
Put it on the Christmas list I guess. A replica Masset jersey.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should meet obc
you guys can go to Reds games and look like fans of other teams
Bend over and drop your pants, Mr. Babar.
by Slyde on Jul 31, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
obc has a hat
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So does he
It had a “B” on it. I shit thee not.
How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?
by jch24 on Jul 31, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mine's just a Reds hat (a "B" would be boastful)
I also have a “Who Dey?” hat, signed by Shayne Graham and some practice squadders. A custom Reds jersey with “NUKKAH” on the back would be pretty stylin’ though.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
obc's hat had one of these on it

How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?
by jch24 on Jul 31, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's the reds, right?
/every douchebag Euro trash wannabe bartender in the Triangle
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by Man Mountain on Jul 31, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Swap a "y" for the "t",
and you have my Reds jersey!
I have two Reds shirts: a Hobbs lightning bolt T and a Reds fun run T that my dad got in 1986.
by ken on Jul 31, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
90 minutes left before it's official that Dunner's here for the rest of the year.
I’m kind of worried.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 31, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What do you think his chances are of clearing waivers
and being moved in August?
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by Thundering Turtle on Jul 31, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there's no way he clears waivers
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
unless he does
Bend over and drop your pants, Mr. Babar.
by Slyde on Jul 31, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if no one claims the major league home run leader
who will cost about 4 million dollars for the rest of the year, then he will clear waivers
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If nobody claims him, I suppose he could clear waivers.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 31, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
re:nelson cruz
i dont understand how a guy could kick so much ass in triple-a (even as a 28-year-old) and only be able to put together a .670 OPS in the majors. Maybe it’s a small sample size, and he wouldn’t be a bad pickup? His lefty-righty splits are even as can be, so I don’t get it.
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Masset "really looking forward to being a starter"
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 31, 2008 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously?
How does he fall in the top five, unless several of them go down?
I guess if we dump Fogg and Affeldt and Harang is out, we’d be looking at Volquez/Arroyo/Cueto/Bailey/?
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
with the Louisville Bats?
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by BubbaFan on Jul 31, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like his optimism
“Kenny Williams put in a good word for me!”
by ken on Jul 31, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And, it looks like the Rays won't be looking at Dunn.
http://trades.mlblogs.com/archives/2008/07/rays_to_acquire_bay.html
Rays get Bay for Brignac and Niemann.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 31, 2008 3:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i was just about to post that!
ninja’d!
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You got me earlier, returning the favor.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 31, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is a coincidence and irrelevant
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I project that your not cool and your life isnt fun
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 31, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's pretty spot on
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't thank me.
That’s our new friend’s thoughtful analysis.
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by BK on Jul 31, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey look
i even replied to that!
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tampa Bay
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With potential headlines like that, you should work at a newspaper
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 31, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, I haven't been paying attention to other trades today
The Manny deal didn’t include Bay?
Did that fall through.
Sorry…
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by Man Mountain on Jul 31, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
deader than the reds playoff chances for this year
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we can make a run now that we got rid of that lazy right fielder!!!!11!
/typical reds fan’d
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by BK on Jul 31, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the pirates fell out of that deal
but it still might happen, with the dodgers or a ::cough cough:: mystery team
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dunn and Affeldt replace Bay and Grabow?
I’d take Jed Lowrie and Jeremy Hermida
Bend over and drop your pants, Mr. Babar.
by Slyde on Jul 31, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it seems like a natural fit to me
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
although the red soz might not be so keen on dunn
they could have had a year and a half of bay, and they would only get half of dunn
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
more like a third
Bend over and drop your pants, Mr. Babar.
by Slyde on Jul 31, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um, yeah, I'd jump at that too.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 31, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
This could be the Rays’ year.
I didn’t realize they needed outfielders, though.
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by BubbaFan on Jul 31, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what you thought there infielders were good enough to run out and catch fly balls at the warning track?
and what exactly are they supposed to do with those three spots in the batting order?
every team needs outfielders bubbafan
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1 in 4 might have been an exaggeration
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm in a slump
That is a Coincidence and Irrelevant!
by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was gonna post a "slump buster" pic, but
1) This thread is slow enough.
2) I saw something in the GIS that made me queasy, so i gave up.
How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?
by jch24 on Jul 31, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Their entire team seems to be the kind of scrappy, hustling, base-stealing, catch-everything-in-three-zip-codes guys that drive the Yankees crazy.
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by BubbaFan on Jul 31, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are we getting another trade-related thread, or are we going to see how much longer this one can last?
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
25 minutes
i think this one will do for now. we can have a new one if dunn moves
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i might need a cyber puke bag if Dunn goes
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by Man Mountain on Jul 31, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Who wants to hold my hair back? Genetics, I’m looking at you.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
AHHHHHH!
oh fuckity fuck that’s rec’d
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by Man Mountain on Jul 31, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they're not gonna sign him,
might as well deal him.
by ken on Jul 31, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as i said somewhere in the other thread
I know that rationally, but you maybe surprised to learn that I’m given to bouts of embarrassing overreaction.
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by Man Mountain on Jul 31, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
by ken on Jul 31, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no worries
dunn hardly ever moves
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so it's 4:00 EDT, eh?
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just heard sMarty on 1360 with Tracer
Very nice commentary by Marty about Jr. Too bad he waited until the guy is traded. Interestingly sMarty was adamant that Adam Dunn would not be traded in the light of Grif’s departure.
Best discussion between those two guys in a long time. Tracy kept his mouth shut, asked probing questions and Marty prestty humble.
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by Madville on Jul 31, 2008 3:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Also just heard that Rob Butcher just put out a memo saying that:
THIS TRADE IS NOT FINAL AS OF 3:30 ISH. The hold up is not the commish but Grif wondering if he can play center field in that big ass ballpark. Wouldn’t that be the shits if he changes his mind at 3:59
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by Madville on Jul 31, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're shitting me
Center field’s not any bigger now then it was at noon, Griff.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"That big ass ballpark"
Huh? I think it’s on the smaller side. Definitely not Colorado or Houston. Butcher might want to recheck that memo.
by ken on Jul 31, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was straight from Tracy Jone's lips the re: the size of the outfield inChicago
I have never been there.
4:05pm now and Dunn is still a Red.
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by Madville on Jul 31, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More likely that Jr. had a moment of doubt about being back in CF.
Good luck to him.
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by Madville on Jul 31, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're thinking of 700
But I’ll let it slide. Or Sylde, even.
How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?
by jch24 on Jul 31, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what's sylde mean?
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some Canadian reporter
Acquiring Ken Griffey, Jr., could be the move that puts the White Sox over the top. But it might not be their last deal of the day. According to one high-ranking Major League source, the White Sox – who now find themselves with a surplus of DH-outfield types – are prepared to use the depth provided by Junior’s acquisition to add pitching help for the stretch drive.The source suggested that Williams is now talking to clubs that might be held up by the song and dance involving Manny Ramirez, particularly the Florida Marlins.
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 3:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They'd better hurry up.
15 minutes left.
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by BK on Jul 31, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i got 4 big dog
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still nothing...
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 31, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna start priming my "Why is Weathers still here?" tirade
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not a lot happened today to change the course of the franchise
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Griffey wearing number 17 for the Sox.
That’s gonna be awkward.
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by BK on Jul 31, 2008 3:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is 3 retired?
Doesn’t look like it’s being used currently.
by ken on Jul 31, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to a google result, these are the White Sox retired numbers...
2: Nellie Fox
3: Harold Baines
4: Luke Appling
9: Minnie Minoso
11: Luis Aparicio
16: Ted Lyons
19: Billy Pierce
72: Carlton Fisk
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont see 30 on there...
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't keep up with uniform numbers, but according to wikipedia...
[In Cincinnati] Griffey wore his father’s #30, not #24 like he did in Seattle. The number 24 was already retired in honor of Tony Perez and it was not brought out of retirement for Griffey....
Griffey switched his uniform number in 2006, from 30 to 3, to honor his three kids.
So he can’t have 3, but he could have either of his two previous numbers.
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by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
swisher has 30
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to piss on the White Sox
but that’s a sorry group of hitters for your all-time greats.
by ken on Jul 31, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
4 p.m.
or, might as well be. hold-your-breath time
What do you mean, "blank slate"?
by boobs on Jul 31, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Happy trade deadline!
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 31, 2008 4:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now Rosenthal says Bay is going to the Red sox?
That is a Coincidence and Irrelevant!
by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 4:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dan Szy... weighs in
http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/oracle/discussion/white_sox_acquired_griffey/
The Reds get a surprisingly decent haul for the last few months of Griffey’s contract. Neither Masset or Richar have any star potential, but they’re a good step above the random A-baller you frequently see in these types of trades. God knows the Reds can always use an extra arm and Richar, a dark horse candidate for a job last winter, provides additional infield depth, which the Reds don’t have, as witnessed by Paul Janish being pushed for a while into a role he was completely not ready for.
by Red Menace on Jul 31, 2008 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
re: Janish
being a 4th-string, defensive stop-gap SS after the starting 3 on the depth chart go down.
Yeah, Reds, what the fuck?
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by Man Mountain on Jul 31, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I can't believe they did that when they had no other choice.
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking all along
that I’d have been happy with a random A-baller for Griffey, but I thought no team would even trade us a random A-baller for him. So, I for one am happy that we got something for him at all. I don’t know what kind of haul the people who are upset about this trade thought we were going to get, but I think this is about the best we could do. I’m not considering the money we’re sending the Sox, but until Bobby C proves he has a spending limit, I don’t really care about the money.
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by beasleymachine on Jul 31, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was pissed off
when it looked like a betwixt and between trade: not getting any real salary relief and not getting a prospect back. Getting the Sox’s trash and picking up the tab.
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by Man Mountain on Jul 31, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why so down
on Nick Masset? I know his numbers look fairly atrocious, but I’ve heard he has at least a little bit of promise. I know that’s been said about 10 gazillion pitchers the Reds have picked up this millennium, but hey you never know. I wouldn’t call him trash, at least.
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by beasleymachine on Jul 31, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's fine
looks like just some dude, really, and he’s trending in the wrong direction.
As I said, i just wanted the cash. Let’s hope it doesn’t matter. When I saw the White Sox were involved, I was hoping that Griffey’s perceived value might be more than what we know it to be for the Reds.
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by Man Mountain on Jul 31, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
on the cash
when you are desperately hoping that the team will find a way to afford Dunn, it’s hard to see them part with any cash. On the bright side though, they have saved $4 million. I’m going to enter my happy place and imagine that is enough savings to sign both Dunn and Ellis.
Bend over and drop your pants, Mr. Babar.
by Slyde on Jul 31, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But we didn't part with any cash
It’s money we already owed. Maybe this is just semantics, but it seems like a lot of people here are opposed to the principle of paying off salary for a departed player. All that matters is that we saved $4mm. We’ll need it given our salary structure next year. Think of it as money earmarked for BP’s raise!
by ken on Jul 31, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would be happy to pay Corey Patterson to play somewhere else
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At the time, it looked like the money we already owed Griff AND cash
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by Man Mountain on Jul 31, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm heading over the Reds' hotel now
I doubt I’ll see Griffey, but I just want to go on the chance that I can tell him good bye, good luck, and thanks.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 4:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
then kick him in the shins and run away
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i should have said
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Say the same for me.
How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?
by jch24 on Jul 31, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and goodnight?
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you see Andy Phillips
Tell him we miss him in New York.
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by BubbaFan on Jul 31, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No luck on Griff, which isn't a surprise
I did see (I think) Billy Hatcher. He was in the lobby, went outside, then came back in with a guy wearing a white Reds hat (black C) who was probably Brandon Phillips. He had his hat pulled low and went by pretty quickly. How tall is Johnny Cueto? I suppose it could have been him.
While I was enjoying my Sam Adams and mixed nuts, I’m pretty sure Bill Bray was in the lobby bar too, with his wife/girlfriend, and some bald guy in a suit. I wanted to go over and ask him if he was Bill Bray, but I’m not really the assertive type. Does Bill Bray have sideburns? I should really spring for MLBTV. It would make stalking people so much easier if I knew what they looked like.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should have taken a sign that said you were brendaukkah from red reporter
they know who you are
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should have gone around lunch time
That’s when everybody’s up and about.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you really wanted their attention
you should’ve been a hot blond girl
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe that this is a good move for the Reds and dumb one for the Sox
By the end of the season there is strong evidence (look at 08’s production and Jr’s been healthy) that he would have limped out of town and no one would have wanted him . I agree with Red Menace this is a good deal for the Reds. Why would anyone want an aging ,245 hitting corner outfielder with warning track power,an enormous ego and big contract. A graceful and appropriate exit for Jr. Maybe he’ll get a ring. Although it looks doubtful if this is the kind of deals that the Sox are pulling off.
OK Jay show us your stuff.
I often think how different the world would be if Hitler had not been turned down when he applied for art school. - George Carlin
by Madville on Jul 31, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For the record
I was quoting someone. I haven’t said it’s a good deal for the Reds.
But I’ll say now it’s not a bad deal. I’m in the camp with those who didn’t think we could get anything for him. The not-quite-a-dump/not-quite-a-trade doesn’t bother me much.
by Red Menace on Jul 31, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry didn't mean to misquote you.
I reiterate this opens the door for Jay to move to right field Hopefully Jerry Jr. can continue his career year but not eonough to get any kind of a multi year deal. I think Copat goes south and Dickerson should come up and get a taste of the show.
I often think how different the world would be if Hitler had not been turned down when he applied for art school. - George Carlin
by Madville on Jul 31, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't get all giddy just yet
It’s not like a trade has never been agreed to and announced after 4:00.
How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?
by jch24 on Jul 31, 2008 4:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
for all the fish
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 4:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In other news, the Brewers suck
I got 99 problems but a job ain't one.
by chesirecat on Jul 31, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
According to Jon Heyman...
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ninja!
"I got a list of demands written on the palm of my hands. I ball my fist and you're gonna know where I stand. We're living hand to mouth! Hand to mouth!"
by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jul 31, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
suck it, fish!
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you have any Manny Ramirezes?
Go Fish.
Bend over and drop your pants, Mr. Babar.
by Slyde on Jul 31, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jack Curry
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jack Curry
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not sure what happened there...
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by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Dodgers' roster is insane
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by Man Mountain on Jul 31, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Between Manny, Andruw Jones, and Juan Pierre
how much does that outfield cost?
by Brendanukkah on Jul 31, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well this season
it looks like manny’s not costing anything because the Sox are paying the rest of his contract.
Jones is making 14.7 mil
Pierre is making 8 mil
Kemp is making 406 thou
Ethier is making 424 thou
2 of those dude shouldn’t really play. Guess which ones?
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by Man Mountain on Jul 31, 2008 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I ask again
Since I see that the two team options were dropped as part of the deal…...where does Manny end up next year as a free agent?
How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?
by jch24 on Jul 31, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
new york
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which team?
And I’m not sure either one can take on another $18-20 million for the next four years.
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by jch24 on Jul 31, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good question
yankees because they have unlimited money. they could sign him if they wanted..
mets because they sign all the latin players.
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's racist.
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by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
manaya has publicly stated that he targets latin players
does seem a little racist to me
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
manny spent most of his time growing up in the states
is that pure enough for manaya?
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by Man Mountain on Jul 31, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pedro will vouch for him
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A farewell:
Griffey
your swing was so pretty,
your legs really fragile,
it was so sad
you were no longer agile
you had a great smile
and a kid’s playful heart,
it was so sad
the media tore you apart
so now on to Chicago
we wish you the best
cause there was no way in hell
your option we would vest
by jacob brumfield on Jul 31, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He stole my heart
and my cat.
Phone's ringing, Dude.
by rjdio on Jul 31, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He smells exactly like beef vegetable soup.
Bend over and drop your pants, Mr. Babar.
by Slyde on Jul 31, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you should post that on bardball.com
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
by Caleb on Jul 31, 2008 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Latest on the Manny/Bay trade...
3:39pm: Bob Nightengale has the Bucs getting Craig Hansen and Brandon Moss from the Red Sox and Andy LaRoche and Bryan Morris from the Dodgers, correcting what looks like a typo in the Rosenthal report.3:37pm: Rosenthal has details:
Pirates outfielder Jason Bay is headed to the Red Sox. The Pirates will receive Andy LaRoche and right-hander Bryan Morris from the Dodgers and outfielder Damien Moss and releiver Craig Hansen from the Red Sox.
He adds that the Red Sox will pay the $7MM remaining on Manny’s contract.
I'm not having even a mediocre year.
by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me, or did the Bucs clean up on that deal....
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by BK on Jul 31, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks good from here
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by jch24 on Jul 31, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They did.
It seems like they essentially got 2 players for Jason Bay, and two more to play along with the Red Sox desperation to unload Manny. I’d be really happy if I were a Bucs fan….......of course, they’re the Bucs, I’m sure they’ll still suck for another 10 years.
"Just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it." - George Costanza
by beasleymachine on Jul 31, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So the Red Sox
Gave up two prospects and $7 million to swap Manny for Bay? Does that seems excessive to anyone else?
How can such a good looking man be so bad at getting to first base?
by jch24 on Jul 31, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
seems a little rough...
but they do get bay for next year, at what i think amounts to 14.5 million (if you factor in what they are paying manny the rest of this year)
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
400!
Tonight, we dine in hell!!!
(Better known as the Grant County Fair for this hombre)
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by jch24 on Jul 31, 2008 5:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey didn't your nickname used to be
The Grant County Fairy?
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Henry got suspended for four games today.
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 5:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I saw him at the movies tuesday night
I kind of wish the Bengals would take him back just to make sure he doesn’t go anywhere else in the AFC North.
Stepbrothers was pretty funny.
by kennythered on Jul 31, 2008 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it looked like it would be funny
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so the Dodgers get Manny for free this year, but
Peter Abraham says Manny’s team options were removed and he has agreed to decline arbitration.
I guess they get two draft picks in exchange for giving up two players?
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by Gray on Jul 31, 2008 5:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sad Sad day for Reds fans
Now I admit Griffey JR “ain’t as good as he once was” this trade was awful, and a sad way for the Griffey era to come to a close.
Meanwhile we are basically paying Griffey’s salary for the rest of the year to watch Dusty’s manlove Corey Patterson start every game the rest of the year.
And then the Red’s don’t make a move with Weathers, Affeldt, Fogg, or any of the other flotsam and jetsam that makes up this last place team.
If they don’t resign Dunn, I might just stop watching them all together.
AKA redsfan68 Nobody listens to Andrew
by nlt-andrew68 on Jul 31, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not according to Jocketty
Said he wanted to evaluate an outfield of Dunn/Hairston/Bruce for the future.
by RedStalk on Jul 31, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here's the evaluation
it’d be pretty darn good.
now sign adam dunn to a 3 or 4 year deal and let’s all be happy!
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better that he go out under his own power than to not be signed and shown the door
Besides you’re right he ain’t as good as he once was so they moved him while he’s still good once as he ever was.
I often think how different the world would be if Hitler had not been turned down when he applied for art school. - George Carlin
by Madville on Jul 31, 2008 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This was a nice move for Griff
The Reds don’t get anything out of it, but he was gone next year no matter what. Guys like Weathers,Fogg and Arroyo are more waiver period players and I expect 2/3 of them are moved.
by Johnnypronto on Jul 31, 2008 5:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope your right
but I would bet against you. Affeldt and Weathers have friendly contracts so they would get claimed. Maybe Bronson’s contract would scare teams away from claiming him.
by kennythered on Jul 31, 2008 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FUCK
Why are Affeldt and Weathers still on this team?
Fuck
by kennythered on Jul 31, 2008 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
is your last name Thered?
If so, you should play for the Cubs
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by chandrathan on Jul 31, 2008 5:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
/reply'd
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