Game 87: Reds vs. Nationals
by Slyde on Jul 3, 2008 5:00 PM EDT
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The phrase that pays tonight is "better than his record implies." Keep your ears open and be the 9th caller when you hear the announcers say that phrase tonight and you could win $1 million.
Could this be the last time Leatherpants brings a team into Cincinnati?
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the lineups
Courtesy of Trent:
Redlegs
1. Jerry Hairston Jr. cf
2. Jeff Keppinger ss
3. Ken Griffey Jr. rf
4. Prandon Phillips 2b
5. Edwin Encarnacion 3b
6. Joey Votto 1b
7. Jay Bruce lf
8. David Ross c
9. Johnny Cueto p
Former Redlegs
1. Roger Bernadina cf
2. Cristian Guzman ss
3. Elijah Dukes lf
4. Dmitri Young 1b
5. Austin Kearns rf
6. Ronnie Belliard 3b
7. Jesus Flores c
8. Willie Harris 2b
9. John Lannan p
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Apparently all those home runs he's been hitting
have tuckered him out.
Or he’s emotionally broken up about the return of Austin Kearns (just got off the DL to play in this game), and can’t face his old friend.
Oh, great
As if we don’t have enough Phillipses…
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
Also from C, more proof that you can trust Baker to screw things up...
When talking about today’s lineup, Baker said Hairston and Keppinger at the top of the lineup is “ideal.”“With both of them back, we’re going to have to plunk one guy in or whatever we have to do to have the best lineup that day,” Baker said. “It was a lot easier in the American League when you have the DH and can play everybody.”
We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?
When did he manage in the American League?
Or was he talking about interleague games? And weren’t Kepp and Cherry injured for at least some of those games?
Yeah, he's talking about interleague
when we had Griffey or, inexplicably, Dunn DHing and both Keppinger and Hairston playing.
We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?
Splits for Reds this season, vs. RHP then LHP:
Bako .213/.306/.315; .230/.266/.475, OPS: .621/.741
Bruce .329/.383/.588; .222/.321/.267, OPS: .971/.587
Dunn .240/.389/.592; .185/.385/.333, OPS: .982/.719
EdE: .238/.312/.477; .257/.389/.392, OPS: .788/.781
Griffey .254/.354/.425; .211/.327/.344, OPS: .779/.672
Cherry Hudson Jr. .289/.324/.412; .393/.453/.589, OPS: .736/1.042
Keppinger .266/.307/.352; .407/.492/.574, OPS: .658/1.066
Prandon: .245/.290/.389; .369/.411/.718, OPS: .679/1.129
DLR: .255/.386/.362; .238/.347/.333, OPS: .748/.680
Votto: .286/.337/.481; .275/.368/.473, OPS: .818/.840
First of all, I didn’t realize how ridiculous Cherry and Keppinger’s power numbers have been against lefties, or how much Bruce has sucked against them. And EdE and Votto have had pretty much no split. Interesting.
But if you need to sit somebody, it’s clear that it shouldn’t be Dunn. Unfortunately, I’d rather give Bruce more ABs to see if he improves against lefties, and the guy I’d like to see sitting bitches and moans if it ever happens.
Also, it’s painfully obvious who our one-two should be against lefties, and we all know which guy should never be batting third. You know, the guy who always bats third. The guy who, of those on this list, has the fifth-highest OPS against righties and the ninth-highest OPS against lefties. Yes, Griffey’s OPS against lefties is lower than everyone but Bruce’s. We’d be better off having Bako or Ross in the outfield than him at this point.
Ouch.
We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?
Incidentally, I made a couple of comments before adding BP to the list
but he’s got an enormous split, too. This time looks like it could really use different lineups for LHP/RHP. Like, say, vs. lefties:
Keppinger
Hudson
Votto
BP
Dunn
EdE
Griffey/Bruce
Bako
and vs. righties:
Bruce
Dunn
EdE
Votto
Hudson
Griffey
BP
Ross
We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?
odd that
Bako and Ross are defying the odds, and yet they usually play against the normal righty-lefty thingy.
Reds fan for 40 years!
I always forget their handedness
but yeah, you’re right. It could just be a sample size issue, since Ross only has ~100 PAs split evenly, while Bako only has 66 PAs vs. LHPs.
We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?
So...they sent Thompson down
Does this mean a return of the Fogg?
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Anyone else see Bruce and Kearns meeting for the first time before the game?
That was pretty awesome. The past and the future.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
Very nice.
What’re you drinking tonight?
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 3, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
The Nats announcers are really badmouthing the size of Great American
Just because you played in cavernous RFK…
Heh. Stupid Angels.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 3, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
who starts for thompson now?
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
Uhh... Thompson, hopefully.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 3, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
He got sent down
Andy Phillips is back with the club. And I think, barring call-up for injury, he has to spend ten days down in the minors after being sent down.
So that's what, 9, right.
So, Fogg for 1 start, and then Thompson?
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 3, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
try affeldt?
cant be worse than fogg?
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
Affeldt has kinda sucked since April
I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...
They can probably figure out a way to call up Thompson
If they want to. All it takes is putting someone on the DL. There always seems to be someone.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
hopper?
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
Well...
Andy Phillips has a history of conveniently timed “injuries.” It’s the only way the Yankees kept him on the roster as long as they did.
All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?
good
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
Grande attributes the Nats low batting average and HR totals
to not being able to get bunts down. Great analysis.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
kkkkk
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
did i put one to many?
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
Yeah, you're right.
it’s only 4, Grande was wrong again. Drink.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 3, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
In other news...
KKKKueto at 26 pitches through 3. So far so good.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
And 20-26 strikes. Good lord.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 3, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
there goes the perfect game
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
Imagine
losing your perfect game, John Lannan.
by Brendanukkah on Jul 3, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
why does hairston
have another pair of batting gloves in his pocket?
man he keeps hitting
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
the things you worry about amuse me
I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...
man keppinger has hit 2 hard
and nothing to show for it
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
his first one wasn't that hard
and yes, i am badgering you
I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...
Nice play by Phillips
He just missed getting him. That’s why Christian Guzman has the most hits in the majors.
wait, what?
how’d that happen? Most hits in the Majors? Guzman? My head hurts.
I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...
Ah, the Elijah Dukes jokes are finally getting some play
I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...
no ever lastings gob stoppers
pete rose to tony perez "how can anyone as slow as you pull a muscle?"
He is on the disabled list and unable to bring forth winter turnips
Fie! Fie on the fife! What hath this to do with Milledge?
So with the whole Phillips thing...
And given that we have Hudson AND Hopper…
Does this mean we might finally get rid of Patterson?
We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?
Balk by JQ.
Common Johnny, strike this (guy) out
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
Or walk him.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 3, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I love being able to look up through the plate at pitches in the new GD 3D
No, really, this is a very useful feature.
We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?
where is lopez?
is he still a national?
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
like, in his back pocket?
I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...
stupid bat boys chair
if we dont win the world series im blaming it on that play
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
I don't think that's what's keeping us
from winning the world series.
We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?
Not that I know what you're talking about
but that’s nothing new.
We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?
You know, except for Griffey...
This is a pretty good lineup.
We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?
and yet...
I’m blaming the Jacobian hitting theory
I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...
Given the team's heritage
perhaps I should have said Jacobitism
I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...
frick
nice shot by ross
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
Cueto seems to be fighting
and fouling off some crazy pitches.
We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?
Evenin!
We thinking lucky?
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
And Dukes goes yard.
Boom… outta here.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 3, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa...
how high was that pitch? GD has it about 8 feet up.
We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?
At least 8 feet up.
It was Ankiel-esque.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 3, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
That's about right
Looked like his cleat slipped. Went way high.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
Shit.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
Yo, Johnny....
You dead, dawg.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
you couldn't find a bigger picture of a gun?
or perhaps with a cat saying, “I can has dead dawg?”
I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...
Yo, Slyde...
You dead, too, dawg.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
And why have there been no Beatles jokes yet?
I mean, come on. John Lannan!
We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?
Nukkah had one earlier, I think.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 3, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Imagine there's no offense....its easy if you try
Imagine all the people, living in A-GO-NEEEEEEE
whoo hoo, ooooh oo ooooh
1 on, 1 out
Sure would be nice to have the NL’s #4 Home Run hitter up right now.
Just sayin’.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
Unclear pronoun reference...
but since I’m just talking to myself now, nobody cares.
We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?
Dunn?
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
Dunn's mom?
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
"Somebody" = "He"
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
Yeah. For shortshop...
GRIFFEY complains when GRIFFEY gets benched.
We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?
Vottomatic!
Backing up my claims that he does as well against LHP as he does against RHP!
We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?
bruce too
pete rose to tony perez "how can anyone as slow as you pull a muscle?"
Bruce flails at 3 straight breaking balls.
Commmmon Hova…
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
dunn-eske
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
technically not winning either
pete rose to tony perez "how can anyone as slow as you pull a muscle?"
Strike 'em out, throw 'em out.
Hell yes!
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
ross looking like old ross
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
strike em out throw em out
strike em out
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
maybe they could use cPat
pete rose to tony perez "how can anyone as slow as you pull a muscle?"
We should have swapped him for FeLo a month ago.
Everybody wins!
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 3, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
better than even LLM?
pete rose to tony perez "how can anyone as slow as you pull a muscle?"
How was it?
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 3, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
no way it was that bad
it is different no doubt but it isn’t that bad. Of course there was no nudity, or obviously gay characters so I’m sure the critics hated it.
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
i have
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
even thought there is no dialoge
it was relatively funny, may be seeing it again here soon
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
THE WINNING RUN FUCKING FELL DOWN ON THE WAY HOME
DIE IN A FIRE, COREY
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
Seriously, though.
You have a crappy RHP on the mound and Dunn on the bench, and you pinch hit with Patterson? FTH?
We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?
not a bad move, honestly
I had full confidence Kepp would get the go ahead run in. Junya? not so much..
Walking Kepp to get to Griffey.
Amazing.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
You are correct, sir.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 3, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Their bullpen is just full of guys with ERAs around 5, eh?
We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?
Leatherpants is leaving his mark.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
by BK on Jul 3, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
walk coming up
pete rose to tony perez "how can anyone as slow as you pull a muscle?"
Some guy named Charlie Manning just pissed himself, I think.
"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands
Stat of the Day
10
Number of consecutive seasons where one of the Reds’ top 5 pitchers in AB’s has had a better OBP than Corey Patterson’s .220 this season. In 2002, 3 of the Reds’ top 5 pitchers in AB’s were better than .220.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
so doesnt that mean
we wait untill the season ends? to compare season stats?
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
why do you want to give the pitchers such an advantage?
I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...
griff if you strike out here....
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
wish granted
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
knifey spoony?
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
In fairness....
Acta’s bullpen management is really, really good in general. Check out their stats the last 2 years, keeping in mind that they get the fewest Innings Pitched from their starters of any team in the NL.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
Are they overstocked with relievers or something?
Extras are looking appealing now.
We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?
BP!
"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols
WOOHOO!!!
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
....and YOU people don't like when he swings at the first pitch
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More of an issue when the SP is still in the game
Which is no longer the case. BP is actually a very good first-pitch hitter in his career.
by ken on Jul 3, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
when he puts it in play
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again
when he puts it in play
I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...
he's also batting .241/.273/.376 after an 0-1 count.
I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...
Right
But I have a hard time putting that into context. Is that significantly worse than the average line for an 0-1 count? We also don’t know how much of that was after taking a strike for the first pitch.
by ken on Jul 3, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Phillips apologist
:P
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Phillips phanboy
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hopefully he goes on one of those 10 game tears now
and carries the Reds for a bit
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
So, here's a cool stat I found today
The Reds have allowed fewer runs (48) in the 7th and 8th innings combined than they have in every other single inning except the 4th (41) and the 7th(45).
I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...
If I'm not mistaken.....
I believe Slyde has just been Slyd.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
I meant 8th and 9th
Sometimes I can be a dumbass
I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...
by Slyde on Jul 3, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
that's not very nice.
I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...
Well, I'm sorry
but my entire worldview has been challenged, now that you’ve made an error.
We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?
Damn.
Nice play.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
I think Dukes was safe, though.
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
Hey, speaking of movies (from earlier)
if you haven’t seen the first 5 minutes of the Dark Night yet, you should.
I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...
Dark Night?
You been drinking, Slyde?
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
Well, I'm not having a very good day
I’ll say that much
I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...
nah, Phillips did too much good in that game for my liking
I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...
Every starting position player with a hit or a walk
except Griffey.
We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?
Attention, Statheads....
First Brian Bannister, now Max Scherzer….
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
Woohoo!!!!!
Ballgame!
"Karma - there it was. The meaning of life, straight from Carson Daly's lips to my morphine-laced ears." -Earl Hickey
Interesting that CoPat actually score a run despite bunting into an error and falling down rounding 3rd.
How can this guy be allowed to stay in this team after the All-Star Break?
"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.
"In this team?"
Out the door and innuendo! I spotted Corey and Dusty at the Pipeline the other night, and he was in the team alright.
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