San Diego Padres @ Cincinnati Reds GameThread, Jul 22, 2008 7:10 PM EDT

Game 102: Reds vs. Padres

by Slyde on Jul 22, 2008 5:00 PM EDT in Game Threads

San Diego Padres @ Cincinnati Reds

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Tuesday, Jul 22, 2008, 7:10 PM EDT
Great American Ball Park

Partly cloudy with a 50-percent chance of rain. Winds blowing in from right field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 80.

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	W-L	ERA	WHIP	K	BB
2008 - Jake Peavy	7-6	2.66	1.13	100	27

	W-L	ERA	WHIP	K	BB
2008 - Johnny Cueto	7-9	4.92	1.37	103	43

Man, I hope the Reds win tonight. I don't like it when they lose.

Lineup (via CTR):

Jay Bruce cf
Jeff Keppinger ss
Ken Griffey Jr. rf
Brandon Phillips 2b
Adam Dunn lf
Javier Valentin 1b
Edwin Encarnacion 3b
Paul Bako c
Johnny Cueto p

In his last 39 games, Edwin is batting .331/.429/.661 with 9 doubles and 10 HR. You'd think the guy could bat higher than 7th, wouldn't you?

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First!

And I go back to my original sentiment re: Edwin.

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sig lines are for suckas

by jch24 on Jul 22, 2008 5:05 PM EDT 0 recs

currently 18 > 16

so you are in line to be happy.

It's a lousy night to be an atheist!

by Slyde on Jul 22, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up 0 recs

almost first

boy, am i glad LLM can get some regular at-bats. if he didnt, just think of how his pinch-hitting skills would suffer!

please dont shit on my dreams. i dont want shit on my dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 22, 2008 5:06 PM EDT 0 recs

C Trent

Posted an update, at 4:51 PM. Fogg had to be taken off the field during BP as he was hit in the face by a Joey Votto line drive. Let’s hope he is not seriously hurt.

I agree Slyde about the lineup. I guarantee this lineup works a lot better:

Keppinger
Bruce
Encarnacion
Dunn
Phillips
Griffey Jr.
Valentin
Bako
Cueto

Dusty doesn’t have to worry about stacking lefties, the Padres only have one lefty in the pen, and he isn’t all that great.

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by MixFMKyle on Jul 22, 2008 5:06 PM EDT 0 recs

I don't see the logic of batting Keppinger first...

I think Bruce/EdE/Dunn/Votto/Phillips/Griffey wouldn’t be a bad way to go.

I'm not having even a mediocre year.

by Gray on Jul 22, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up 0 recs

Also

I didn’t realize that non-coaches threw BP. Are actual pitchers often involved?

I'm not having even a mediocre year.

by Gray on Jul 22, 2008 5:33 PM EDT up 0 recs

Nah

I imagine he was standing in the outfield somewhere. Pitchers dont pitch BP, plus there is a safety screen there.

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by MixFMKyle on Jul 22, 2008 5:37 PM EDT up 0 recs

Fogg only pitches batting practice

when it’s being televised, there’s a defense behind him, and they’re keeping score.

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by Man Mountain on Jul 22, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up 0 recs

Why?

Is Paul Bako still playing 40% of the time? He SUCKS. He isn’t as good defensively as Ross, I just don’t get it.

by homerun21 on Jul 22, 2008 5:11 PM EDT 0 recs

really?

He isn’t as good defensively as Ross

I think Ross is a liability behind the plate, especially on plays at the plate

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Jul 22, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up 0 recs

Doesn't Ross throw out a lot more runners?

Neither one seems to be particularly good with bad pitches.

I'm not having even a mediocre year.

by Gray on Jul 22, 2008 7:09 PM EDT up 0 recs

...every time Volquez or Cueto starts – they’ve had tremendous success together. The offensive difference between Ross and Bako is negligible, but the familiarity of the battery is far more important.

by PeteyHendrix on Jul 22, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up 0 recs

uh what?

look at the numbers….Bako is getting on at a .294 clip, Ross gets on .403% of the time and slugs significantly higher. It’s no contest.

by homerun21 on Jul 22, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up 0 recs

You'd have to be a total fucking idiot to start Valentin over Votto.

Come on, Dusty. Fay offers this:

Haven’t talked to Dusty Baker yet. But Joey Votto and Coco Cordero collided on that play in the ninth last night. Could be that Votto’s slightly hurt. Or could be an effort to get Valentin some at-bats. Valentin is 5-for-10 with a home run off Peavy.

I have to say, I hope it’s not the second reason. Ugh. Need I remind anyone? There is no situation in which LLM should bat over Votto:

LLM this year vs LHP/RHP: .188/.235/.375 / .246/.290/.316
Votto this year vs LHP/RHP: .286/.362/.473 / .269/.333/.444

Oh, and EdE should be batting where Keppinger is batting, it’s true.

I'm not having even a mediocre year.

by Gray on Jul 22, 2008 5:12 PM EDT 0 recs

Keppinger has really fallen off since the injury

He’s batting .239/.309/.295 since his return. JinAZ’s rating system has Kepp at more or less replacement level at this point. That’s a shame cause he was pretty much kicking ass before getting hurt. Not that I thought that he’d keep that up all season, but I think the injury likely hastened the drop-off.

It's a lousy night to be an atheist!

by Slyde on Jul 22, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up 0 recs

Yeah...

And he’s only OPSing .612 against righties on the season.

But Cherry has kept it up even as Keppinger slumped—OPS of 952 over 71 PAs in the last four weeks, and his dropoff against righties hasn’t been too bad this year; he still has an OPS of .821 against them. It’s a good thing he isn’t starting today.

At least Griffey is showing signs of picking it up a bit, with an OPS of .822 in the past two weeks—though that’s only 46 PAs. But we know he can do nothing to get moved from the #3 spot…but what will it take to get Keppinger moved?

I'm not having even a mediocre year.

by Gray on Jul 22, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up 0 recs

Cherry's hurt

has the news not reached Canada yet?

It's a lousy night to be an atheist!

by Slyde on Jul 22, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up 0 recs

Oh, right.

I forgot. Keppinger it is, batting second, for another week at least, right?

I'm not having even a mediocre year.

by Gray on Jul 22, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up 0 recs

Jolbert could maybe get a spot start at SS

But other than that… Kepp it is.

by Brendanukkah on Jul 22, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up 0 recs

Oh, CTR thinks it's the latter reason.

“We gotta give Javy a couple starts here tojkeep him sharp,” Baker said. The stats say the two guys here that hit Peavy are him and Corey. I thoguth about giving Corey a start, but the last two starts he’s had have been against C.C. and Peavy, and not playing, that’s not fair.”

Proving once again that you can’t make these guys available without expecting Dusty to play them over better guys. You have to keep them sharp, after all.

I'm not having even a mediocre year.

by Gray on Jul 22, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up 0 recs

Dusty likes to keep his Nerf balls sharp too.

by Brendanukkah on Jul 22, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up 0 recs

Hahahahahaha

John Fay helpfully points out in a comment on his blog:

Valentin, Corey Patterson (.455) and Jeff Keppinger (.250) are only Reds hitting about .200 off Peavy.

I'm not having even a mediocre year.

by Gray on Jul 22, 2008 5:14 PM EDT 0 recs

.450 is about .200?

by Brian B on Jul 22, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up 0 recs

Damn!

If I had done the Bereavement Pool, she would have been on my list. Possibly my first overall pick.

by Brendanukkah on Jul 22, 2008 5:19 PM EDT 0 recs

I'm on the board.

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by 3 Fast 3 Furious on Jul 22, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up 0 recs

No comment.

From CTR. Okay, a bit of emphasis added by me:

“The dude’s good at it, it would have either been him or Arroyo, but Arroyo is pitching (Wednesday),” Baker said of Fogg bunting.
“A lot of people don’t understand (using Fogg as a pinch hitter in the seventh inning on Monday),” Baker said. “When you have five extra men, you really only have four because you have to keep a catcher back and you really only have three, because Javy’s going to be my pinch hitter later in the game. That guy Hensley is throwing sinker, slider in a straight double play position and we want to get (David Ross) in a scoring position for Jay Bruce coming up next. I asked (Bill) Bray (the pitcher) if he’s a good bunter and he said he’s never done it. I said, ‘nevermind.’

“So I looked down the list and usually Fogg gets the bunt down. The other day I had Cabrera up there to pinch hit and bunt and I’d rather not do that because that guy’s prone to double plays and you don’t want to hit and run because Ross would be out by a mile. Through process of elimination and trying to figure out how to get that run home, it was Fogg.

“I had Fogg slash bunting and he hadn’t missed a sign all year. He was so locked in and focused on getting the bunt down, he missed it. I’ve done that with guys like Greg Maddux who can really bunt.”

I'm not having even a mediocre year.

by Gray on Jul 22, 2008 5:19 PM EDT 0 recs

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by Man Mountain on Jul 22, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up 0 recs

Let's see, tonight's talisman...

The Fox motif hasn’t been bearing fruit. So in honor of Man Mountain’s and ken’s good work re. the Randy Wolf trade, we’re going with Wolf.

by Brendanukkah on Jul 22, 2008 5:22 PM EDT 0 recs

hows about a more dapper lupine representative?

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by Man Mountain on Jul 22, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up 0 recs

For a small market team

“If the men of property will not support us, they must fall. Our strength shall come from that great and respectable class, the men of no property.”

by Brendanukkah on Jul 22, 2008 5:46 PM EDT up 0 recs

A good Wolfe but not a papal wolf

The tragic hero of Irish independence was, like co-conspirator Robert Emmet and many of the United Irishmen, a Protestant.

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by Man Mountain on Jul 22, 2008 5:52 PM EDT up 0 recs

THE tragic hero?

One of many, many many. If you’re into the whole 26 +6 =1 sort of thing.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Jul 22, 2008 6:08 PM EDT up 0 recs

there was no emphasis intended in my article

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by Man Mountain on Jul 22, 2008 6:21 PM EDT up 0 recs

or a slightly more recent picture...

I'm not having even a mediocre year.

by Gray on Jul 22, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up 0 recs

I'm a big Thomas fan

but who doesn’t love a good murder mystery?

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Jul 22, 2008 5:49 PM EDT up 0 recs

argh

Valentin 1B? Batting in front of Encarnacion??

"To me, boxing is like a ballet, except there's no music, no choreography, and the dancers hit each other." - Jack Handey

by JJ on Jul 22, 2008 5:24 PM EDT 0 recs

With that lineup

It’s like they’re trying to make me a Freedom season ticket holder.

sig lines are for suckas

by jch24 on Jul 22, 2008 5:56 PM EDT 0 recs

Yes, but going to the freedom game will cost you $22.00

No charge for parking, of course. but for $22.00 you can get the VIP seats which include a tasty buffet (again at no charge) and terrific access to any seat in the place. Last time I was there we $1.00 beers in the 5th inning. And I saw a very good game with some quite unexpected stellar defensive play by both team’s SS and 2ndbasemen.

Last time I went to the Reds game (Friday) we actually won so it was fun enough. But I dropped about $100 by the time it was all over…point being the value at the Freedom game was higher than the Reds.

My Indian name is "Runs For Beer'

by Madville on Jul 22, 2008 6:15 PM EDT up 0 recs

what is this?

Freedom Reporter?

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Jul 22, 2008 6:28 PM EDT up 0 recs

Well hold down the Fort gang...

I’m off to the lanes. Bud Ice is tonight’s choice to be chased with Jack and Cokes and a little bowling in between!!!
Go Reds
Fire Dusty!

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by Madville on Jul 22, 2008 6:17 PM EDT 0 recs

Jon Rauch is a D-Bag

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2008/07/jon-rauch-trade.html

if thats the kind of return a guy like Rauch brings then Leatherpants got ripped off. big time. Bonafacio seems like a decent middle infielder, but i thought for sure a top arm like Rauch was gonna bring in a few good prospects.

please dont shit on my dreams. i dont want shit on my dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 22, 2008 6:32 PM EDT 0 recs