Tracy Jones: Hamilton for Volquez trade is worst in Reds history

by Blue on Jul 17, 2008 5:37 PM EDT

I really wish there was not a word minimum for each post, because I would just have the title and an empty post. Its all you really need to know.

At roughly 5:00 PM, Tracy Jones was for some reason allowed to be on WLW for a show he did on his own. He said something to this affect:

I have said in the past that I thought the Edinson Volquez for Josh Hamilton trade was a good trade and that I would do the trade again if it was offered now. I've changed my mind. Write this down, because I like being right and I'm right a lot: The Edinson Volquez for Josh Hamilton trade will go down as the worst trade in Reds history.

Now, you are surely reading this thinking to yourself, "He must be excepting the Frank Robinson trade." Nope. He followed:

Even worse than the Frank Robinson trade.

Ahh, the dim witted, lazy, out of shape, (just to complete the Adam Dunn trifecta,) Cincinnati media.

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Right...

Cuz Volquez has been an absolute bust.

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jul 17, 2008 5:41 PM EDT 0 recs

Remember

He’s paid to make inflammatory remarks and get people riled up.

sig lines are for suckas

by jch24 on Jul 17, 2008 5:53 PM EDT 0 recs

can we unpay him?

please? i mean, im actually offended. like personally offended.

please dont shit on my dreams. i dont want shit on my dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 17, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up 0 recs

but this is the kind of bullshit comment that should indeed get him fired

I got 99 problems but a job ain't one.

by chesirecat on Jul 17, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up 0 recs

Yeah and he's a good guy too

I know firsthand that he cannot believe that people just do not get that he’s joking. It’s funny stuff to me. Doc on the other hand….

"Was Not Was" is a perfect name for a one hit wonder pop group.

by Pops Daniels on Jul 18, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up 0 recs

What you say is true

Just walked out of my office actually. Good guy IMHO.

sig lines are for suckas

by jch24 on Jul 18, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up 0 recs

You know I interned at WLW, right?

Newsroom. Summer of ‘05. Maybe we passed by each other.

"Was Not Was" is a perfect name for a one hit wonder pop group.

by Pops Daniels on Jul 18, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up 0 recs

Probably did

I’ve been here since 2000, in this role since ‘01.

sig lines are for suckas

by jch24 on Jul 18, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up 0 recs

what role?

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Jul 18, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up 0 recs

IT

Stuff & Junk.

sig lines are for suckas

by jch24 on Jul 18, 2008 5:51 PM EDT up 0 recs

he isn't a condecending asshole when he isn't on the radio?

because he just seems like a pompos ass.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Jul 19, 2008 11:50 AM EDT up 0 recs

He really isn't

He’s always been nice to me and other people in my presence. I think he plays up the pomposity/arrogance on the air since it’s the persona he has affected over the years.

sig lines are for suckas

by jch24 on Jul 19, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up 0 recs

is he as sexist in reality as he is on air?

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Jul 20, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up 0 recs

Even sexier!

by Brendanukkah on Jul 20, 2008 1:08 AM EDT up 0 recs

okay

now that is pretty funny. how in the world does he maintain his composure when people call in and invariably agree with him?

FIRE DUSTY BAKER

by Blue on Jul 19, 2008 12:59 AM EDT up 0 recs

They get a kick out of it

Trust me. I swear a radio host could say damn near anything and get five people to call in and agree with them. It’s astounding.

sig lines are for suckas

by jch24 on Jul 19, 2008 3:10 AM EDT up 0 recs

this is one of several reasons

that Tracy Jones sucks

by thedecline19 on Jul 17, 2008 8:34 PM EDT 0 recs

Let's all make to sure call in to his show

after Volquez wins the Cy Young.

by bengalred on Jul 17, 2008 8:49 PM EDT 0 recs

Let's ignore him

by Red Menace on Jul 17, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up 0 recs

i fucking hate that egotistical sonuvabitch

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Jul 17, 2008 9:00 PM EDT 0 recs

clear channel

did the phones ring afterwards? operation successful, if so.

the Tracer is a good dude. and Hobbs is having an almost historic season, but trading him for an all-star #1 ace is never going to be considered an alltime worst trade.

by obc2 on Jul 17, 2008 9:01 PM EDT 0 recs

Best Trade the Reds Ever Made?

July 13, 1988: Traded by the Cincinnati Reds with Pat Pacillo to the Montreal Expos for Jeff Reed, Herm Winningham, and Randy St. Claire.

Winningham and Reed played crucial roles in the 1990 postseason.

Thanks, Tracy.

Phone's ringing, Dude.

by rjdio on Jul 17, 2008 9:36 PM EDT 0 recs

Speaking of trades, Joe Blanton is a Phillie.

He was acquired for SS Adrian Cardenas, P Josh Outmann and OF Matthew Spencer. Nice haul for Oakland. Baseball America ranked Cardenas Philadelphia’s No. 2 prospect and Outmann No. 4. Spencer is a struggling High-A OF.

By comparison, the Reds’ Nos. 2 and 4 prospects, respectively, are Homer Bailey and Johnny Cueto. I am pleased that Krivsky didn’t make such a deal for Blanton over the winter.

We Are ... Marshall!

by Thundering Turtle on Jul 17, 2008 9:44 PM EDT 0 recs

Christ, even with the questionable haul, Oakland is becoming Tampa West with these trades

Nothing can touch the Harden deal, though. That was just obscene.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Jul 17, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up 0 recs

*questionable haul for Harden

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Jul 17, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up 0 recs

*nothing can touch the Haren deal

Stupid fingers and muscle memory…

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Jul 17, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up 0 recs

Not a bad deal for either side, imo

Philly really needs another starter. Myers is on the DL and has been spotty all year, while ~~Milton~~ Eaton has regressed during the last month and should be kicked to the curb. Blanton doesn’t have a pretty ERA right now but his peripherals indicate that he’s been unlucky (FIP is about a run lower than his ERA), and he’s been a pretty consistent league-averish, 200 IP guy the last few years (though I do wonder if he’s suffering from some fatigue due to throwing 230 IP last year). He’s more dependent than most on his defense, especially in the infield, but that’s not a problem for the Phillies. Also, I don’t think he’s FA eligible for a few more years so he isn’t just a rental.

Cardenas is a good prospect. He’s 20 and doing very well in high A, but he’s already been moved to 2B and he’s blocked there. Outman is a AA lefty with decent velocity but some control issues and has already been moved to the bullpen. I’ve never heard of Spencer but he sounds like a throw-in, which makes the trade essentially Cardenas for Blanton. I would’ve thought that Cardenas would get someone better, but he’s still only the no. 3 prospect in a weak system.

by ken on Jul 18, 2008 8:35 AM EDT up 0 recs

Forgot that Myers is in AAA. Not on the DL anymore.

by ken on Jul 18, 2008 11:02 AM EDT up 0 recs

Myers - 15 day DL (bruised wife)

What an asshole.

by Brendanukkah on Jul 18, 2008 11:17 AM EDT up 1 recs

Yeah,

he holds a special place in my heart for that particular piece of douchebaggery.

"Was Not Was" is a perfect name for a one hit wonder pop group.

by Pops Daniels on Jul 18, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up 0 recs

Philadelphia deserves a better class of criminal

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Jul 18, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up 0 recs

heath ledger would make that town so much more fun

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Jul 19, 2008 11:51 AM EDT up 0 recs

I wish I'd thought to put Heath on my dead pool list - Damn

My Indian name is "Runs For Beer'

by Madville on Jul 19, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up 0 recs

I'm not sure

but I think boobs started this thing right after Heath passed.

by Red Menace on Jul 19, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up 0 recs

I keep getting told I look like the guy... And then I have to explain that I am alive and the people always look at me funny...

People Don't Kill People. Burning Couches Kill People.

by crolfer on Jul 19, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up 0 recs

I actually have a buddy who looks a lot like him

and he’s named Heath.

by Red Menace on Jul 20, 2008 1:15 AM EDT up 0 recs

I like old Tracy

Yep, he’s inflammatory and egotistical and sometimes says some pretty strange things BUT he is right a lot. Plus he doesn’t put up with sMarty’s drivel. 5 years from now we’ll know if this trade was the a good one or not. Tracer just trying keep interest going for a team that can’t win when they have a substantial lead in their own ball par and a $46M closer.

I am probably the only person (other than Jones) on the planet who thinks that Tracer would be an ideal manager for this specific Reds team. He has the energy and bluster and confidence that desperately needs to be injected into this group of players.

My Indian name is "Runs For Beer'

by Madville on Jul 18, 2008 12:11 PM EDT 0 recs

yeah youre probably the only one

i wont dispute that.

please dont shit on my dreams. i dont want shit on my dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 18, 2008 12:15 PM EDT up 0 recs

I don't know about that.

I’m too young to remember Tracy as a player, so all I know of him is as a blowhard radio host. I’d give him a shot as manager though, because that would mean Dusty isn’t there and almost anything would be an improvement. Where’s Pete Mackanin when you need him?

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Jul 18, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up 0 recs

I rememberTtracer as a player

He was really talented. I don’t know why but he never was consistent. He was fun to watch and played like a maniac…had some pop in his bat. I saw him lead off a game in St. Louis years ago with a mamoth drive high in the LF 2nd deck… He was as full of himself then as a player as he is as a blowhard talkshow host. I’d rather listen to him any day than P. Doc or Cutler or (fill in the blank).

My Indian name is "Runs For Beer'

by Madville on Jul 18, 2008 12:54 PM EDT up 0 recs

As I recall

He was your typical overrated white boy who idiots love because he looks like he is hustling when his talents make him best suited to being a role player on the bench.

by LooseCannon on Jul 20, 2008 2:56 AM EDT up 0 recs

Well, it is true that our pitcher's suck

C. Trent gives us this little nugget.

Did you know pitchers are hitting .205 off of Reds pitchers? Is it just me or does that seem really high? (It is, I just looked up, the average for pitchers in the National League is .138).

by Brendanukkah on Jul 18, 2008 12:34 PM EDT 0 recs

i seemed like opposing pitchers are killing the Reds

but than i thought I could just have a circumstantial memory of things like Sabathia.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Jul 19, 2008 11:53 AM EDT up 0 recs

Not the best example

Arroyo and Cueto sucked at the beginning of the year. Absolutely sucked. Now, they are playing great. I want to see the batting average and team ERA from the last 20 games. That is what I care about. Not what happened in May.

http://naptownsfinest.com

by Colts Homer on Jul 19, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up 0 recs

Anytime

You quote the lunatic ravings of a radio or TV talkshow host who is trying to attract ratings, you run the risk of actually fooling yourself into thinking that the host actually belives what he/she/it is saying.

Rush Limbaugh is the perfect example.

I used to like Tracy Jones, before he started with all the Richard from Indian Hill (or wherever) shit about the Diamond Seats and the ham and eggers. Then it got tired and I stopped listening. Now I’m happier. It got even better when I got to stop listening to Sportstalk on WLW after Furman got canned—not that I listened every night, but listening to the same mouthbreathing callers spout crap about the subject du jour has gotten real old.

I prefer a community of (mostly) knowledgable fans, which is why I’m here. (I only say mostly because I’m involved in it)

"I'd walk through hell in a gasoline suit to play baseball" - Pete Rose

by Officer Dibble on Jul 18, 2008 3:11 PM EDT 0 recs

Hey now

If I haven’t made it astoundingly obvious by now, I don’t know shit.

sig lines are for suckas

by jch24 on Jul 18, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up 0 recs

it's been painfully obvious!

Reds fan for 40 years!

by gejoe on Jul 18, 2008 5:50 PM EDT up 0 recs

Is Richard a real person?

because he just seems pathetic, and I feel bad for him whenever he calls in. Especially when Tracy starts telling him his kid is a little fatass who needs to learn to behave himself.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Jul 19, 2008 11:58 AM EDT up 0 recs

No

he is not real.

"Was Not Was" is a perfect name for a one hit wonder pop group.

by Pops Daniels on Jul 19, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up 0 recs

Tracy Jones is a joke

This trade may still be the second worst in the history of the Reds franchise. But only time will tell.

by Brian B on Jul 18, 2008 5:40 PM EDT 0 recs

Volquez for Hamilton

I don’t see how this is a bad trade for either team. I think it is a phenomenal trade, but everyone acts like the Reds only got a bag of peanuts back. Volquez is a favorite for the Cy Young.

Maybe if Volquez was addicted to drugs and came back miraculously from it he would be considered the greatest player in history. America loves a good comeback story.

http://naptownsfinest.com

by Colts Homer on Jul 19, 2008 3:56 PM EDT 0 recs