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Fay: Dunn not "having even a mediocre year"

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008807130431

I don't know what he's thinking here, and the article doesn't make it any more clear.

Four of their highest-paid, most experienced players are having bad years. Among Griffey, Adam Dunn, Aaron Harang and Bronson Arroyo, none is having even a mediocre year.

Dusty, of course, quickly came to the defense of his players:

"That's a fair assessment," Baker said. "You pay attention to them because they're big guys. They're the highest-salary guys."

... wait a minute...

There's also this article from Fay that really deserves its own thread, if someone would be so kind.  Wait until you read the explanation for having Homer swing away in the second inning.  I can't believe Dusty actually says what he thinks sometimes.  If that was my line of thinking, I'd just keep it to myself.

http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080714/SPT04/807140377/1071

 

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You guys have some really tragic writers/announcers

My condolences.

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 14, 2008 5:37 PM EDT   0 recs

On behalf of Ohio

Sorry you were taking shit from the LGTers. They like you, they just don’t know how to show it. Probably just bitter about Milwaukee getting Harry Doyle from them, and then losing CC just reopened that old wound.

But Red Reporter knows how to show its appreciation for battlekow:

Thanks for all that you bring to the table. Hopefully the next time our teams square off, our manager will have a clue about how to use his bullpen, and we can actually sweep you.

by Brendanukkah on Jul 14, 2008 5:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That was in the running, but I was pretty sure I'd seen it before (thank you)

There were some other pictures that came up when I did my search of “babe beer,” but I didn’t want to put them on a more or less family website.

by Brendanukkah on Jul 15, 2008 4:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

hint for crolfer:

They involve girls holding cans/bottles of beer with something other than their hands.

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Jul 15, 2008 5:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Their feet?

That sounds crazy!

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Jul 15, 2008 5:52 PM EDT to parent up   1 recs

Oh yes indeed...this is the first time I actually looked at her cute face

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jul 15, 2008 5:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Our first-round pick has a really cute sister

And she’s an Olympic athlete!

BCB's "very own marginally deserving all-star!"

by battlekow on Jul 15, 2008 6:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

battlekow

have you been to lake front brewery and Madre’s?

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Jul 14, 2008 10:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I have indeed

I was the beer manager at a local liquor store for awhile. I’m a bit of a beer geek. I take it that Mader’s is where you sated your appetite for German cuisine while in town?

He's extremely quick and good.

by battlekow on Jul 15, 2008 12:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

"beer manager"

i now know the name im going to put on the back of my personalized Reds jersey. thank you.

please dont shit on my dreams. i dont want shit on my dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 15, 2008 12:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah madre's was pretty excellent

and i doubt there is a better brewery tour than what is offered at Lake Front Brewery.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Jul 15, 2008 9:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I almost think he wrote this at the beginning of the year

And just plugged in selected “back of the baseball card stats” supporting it. He might have a “How the young pitchers helped us to a 6 games over .500” article sitting around too, just in case that would have happened. I can’t believe he gets paid to write total crap like this…....of course, I can’t believe Dusty Baker gets paid to be such an idiot, either.

"Just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it." - George Costanza

by beasleymachine on Jul 14, 2008 5:52 PM EDT   0 recs

Dunn is promarily paid to hit Home Runs and supply RBIs.

Anything else is a bonus..
Higher Average – Bonus
More Sac Flies – Bonus
Lead in Walks – Bonus
High OBP – Bonus
Great teamate – Bonus

All I can say is that it is good that is Monday night bowling for Mads. I believe that I will tilt several Brews and a few Jack and Cokes to my newest least favorite sportswriter.

The 2nd half of the season could be pretty interesting. Remember Murker, old guy…pitches on the Reds – He clearly and unequivocally stated that as this team played together more it could not help but get better and better. (paraphrased) – Of course he PC enough to leave out one of the basic problems that ever encroaching malaise brought on by the my of VPness…and propagated by our manager Dusty Backwards.
Dunn VS Ryan Braun thru 2008

Games 91 92
Runs 46 52
HRS 26 23
RBIs 59 66
Average .228 .286
OBP .380
SlG .538

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jul 14, 2008 6:11 PM EDT   0 recs

I wouldn't call the OBP a bonus

I think that’s an important part of his value. But agreed in general.

by Red Menace on Jul 15, 2008 3:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Whoops - let me finish

Dunn Braun

OBP .380 .324
SLG 538 .549
OPS .918 .873

Braun’s starting in the All Star game right? Dunn’s numbers are as good if not better..so how’s he having a less than mediocre season Mr. Fay

Don’t noby every look at the numbers shit…’ceptin’ that slyde fella

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jul 14, 2008 6:15 PM EDT   0 recs

only batting average matters!!!!!11111

And he was only hitting .225 with 24 HRs! He sucks!

We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?

by Gray on Jul 14, 2008 6:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Dunn's NL standings

2nd in home runs
13 RBI
8th Slg %
8th OBP
6th OPS+
Walks 1st

yep he is mediocre. And without figuring it out I’d say he is about 5 hits short from being at his career average. Which is greater the number of hits Dunn needs to be at his career average or the number of typos in the average Fay post?

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Jul 14, 2008 6:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Boy those last 2 comments were poorly written - incomprehedable!!!! Almost....

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jul 14, 2008 10:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If Dusty actually said that in context

it reminds me of an early episode of Da Ali G show where Sacha Baron Cohen as Brüno gets some idiotic fashion designer, over the course of a conversation, to ascribe inconsistent and contradictory terms to his work—first it’s light, then it’s heavy, etc.

“Isn’t it great having four veterans performing so well and pushing the team to greatness, Dusty?”
“That’s what I always say, Fay. If we didn’t have Griffey’s superhuman production batting third, we would have lost a lot more. And without their veteran presence, our players would be as clueless as I am and there’s no way we could win close to half of our games.”

...two questions later…

“These four players are overpaid and having mediocre years. True or false?”
“That’s a fair assessment,” Baker said. “You pay attention to them because they’re big guys. They’re the highest-salary guys.”

We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?

by Gray on Jul 14, 2008 6:16 PM EDT   0 recs

I just noticed

that on cincinnati.com, you can actually rec yourself, no self-checking required.

We ain’t no last place team are we Pops ?

by Gray on Jul 14, 2008 6:25 PM EDT   0 recs

Yeah

and I often report comments for being “ridiculously fucking stupid and vulgar to me.”

"As it says over the door to the Famous Writers' School in Connecticut: A Sullen Drunk Packing A Gat Is Not The Best Company For An Artist Finicky About His Style."

by Pops Daniels on Jul 14, 2008 6:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

if I actually lived in Cincinnati

I would likely not be a Reds fan. It’d be far too frustrating to have to defend myself and my favorite players from complete ignoramuses.

The fact that I am a Reds fan, despite all but tenuous attachments to the city, despite never, ever, meeting another Reds fan face-to-face, despite the fact that everyone (CTrent and Erardi besides) paid to be a “voice of the team” is an utter mouth-breathing fucktard, is something to say about the power of enforced nostalgia and family folklore and absolutely nothing about anything that the Reds have done in my cognizant years.

I also probably would’ve given up by now if not for RedReporter. So here’s to you guys…the Justice League of mediocre baseballing.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Jul 14, 2008 7:16 PM EDT   0 recs

thanks?

Just let the Reds get in real playoff contention and see how quick Fay and Trent fall all over them selves to jump on the band wagon.

Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds

by Caleb on Jul 14, 2008 7:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

uhh...

you don’t consider CTrent to be a mouthbreathing fucktard? He accuses people who question Dusty of being “closet Cub fans”.

FIRE DUSTY BAKER

by Blue on Jul 14, 2008 8:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It's been helpful to be away

because I have a fresh sense of shock at the utter fucking insanity of everyone involved with this team in an official capacity.

He's doing it. He's eating a tire!

by Man Mountain on Jul 14, 2008 7:29 PM EDT   0 recs

Living in cincinnati in General reqires that one suspends factual reality

Just like me on most of my Diaries…Esp. like tonight after bowling. This is a bastion of Bush Jr. Lovers and people who actually believe almost everything that ex-carny Rush Blimpbaugh says. However I’ve lived in much, much much, bleaker towns….

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jul 14, 2008 10:00 PM EDT   0 recs

Camdem, NJ?

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Jul 14, 2008 10:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Norwood?

"As it says over the door to the Famous Writers' School in Connecticut: A Sullen Drunk Packing A Gat Is Not The Best Company For An Artist Finicky About His Style."

by Pops Daniels on Jul 15, 2008 7:39 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Some of the Shitty Cities I've lived in:

St. Paris, Ohio
Marshall, Wisconsin
Oakland, Cal.
Waltham, Mass.
Ostrander, Oh.
Urbana, Ohio
Cottonwood, Arizona
Millerstown, Oh
Off the top of my head…If Ican think of any others….
Oh – St. Marys, Ohio
DAYTON, Oh – really an armpit of the nation
Hamilton (Hamiltucky) Ohio – 2nd in the nation Murders per capita, 1973
CDollege corner, Indiana, (only lived there for a short while…got the hell out)

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jul 15, 2008 6:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hahahaha!

Yes, but he’s our lovable serial killer.

Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.

by Paul Householder on Jul 16, 2008 2:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Mqybe a lovable Old Serial Killer ?

N’est pas…

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jul 16, 2008 5:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Woo Hoo, Dayton!!!

So glad to be moving back there for the next few months!

by D-Rock on Jul 15, 2008 6:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

H-Town shout out

yeah it really does suck here.

but we are Hamilton! Ohio thank you very much.

You need to ad Ada to you list of whoa.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Jul 15, 2008 9:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Actually we lost the "!".

As a Hamiltuckian, I’m disappointed. I thought it brought a lot of excitement to our fine city.

by Geki on Jul 16, 2008 11:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

did you go to Hamilton High?

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Jul 16, 2008 11:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

hey dude

I realize we traded the guy, but you don’t have to bring up his past drug use with every time you mention the guy.

:P

FIRE DUSTY BAKER

by Blue on Jul 17, 2008 5:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ah, the Gem City

It’s unattractive, filled with losers, and is the butt of jokes across the country. No wonder I love it as much as I love the Reds.

“We gave you Bob Pollard and Kim Deal. What did your stupid town ever do? Face!”

by Brendanukkah on Jul 16, 2008 10:15 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

She told me liquor

I AM A NEW MAN!

"As it says over the door to the Famous Writers' School in Connecticut: A Sullen Drunk Packing A Gat Is Not The Best Company For An Artist Finicky About His Style."

by Pops Daniels on Jul 16, 2008 11:37 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

HAWT FREAKS! HOTT. FREAKS!!

He's doing it. He's eating a tire!

by Man Mountain on Jul 16, 2008 6:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I sent in the article to the guys at FJM

And they mentioned it, briefly, in their gallimaufry post that they do from time to time.

by D-Rock on Jul 15, 2008 9:18 AM EDT   0 recs

It's good that's there's finally a John Fay tag on FJM

They spelled it John Fey, but that’s kind of fitting.

by Red Menace on Jul 15, 2008 3:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What is wrong with the Media

Yeah Dunn’s average is lower the usual but his output to me seems much better both defensively and offensively overall.

So it’s the players fault and not Dustbuckets. I gave up reading the comments over for Fay’s “blog” since there is always someone bragging about small ball and how Dusty is great.

Beware the toothpick knows.

by Pilsner73 on Jul 15, 2008 11:28 AM EDT   0 recs

Sheldon at reds.com has his midterm report

and guess who he picks as the Reds first half MVP? you guessed it, Jerry Hairston Jr.

“Jerry Hairston Jr. emerged as a leadoff catalyst and a steady shortstop and versatile utility player after his callup. A fractured thumb in June shelved Hairston for two weeks and highlighted why he became indispensible from a top of the order that had lacked consistency.”

i like what Hairston has done so far this year, i really do, but come on. he hasnt even played enough to qualify, let alone been the best player in that limited amount of time. its this kind of asinine thinking that has kept this franchise in the doldrums for so long.

please dont shit on my dreams. i dont want shit on my dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 16, 2008 10:27 PM EDT   0 recs

whoops. in my rage i forgot to link

link

please dont shit on my dreams. i dont want shit on my dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 16, 2008 10:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

By VORP

Cherry leads the team with 24.2, edging out Dunn (24.0). But if you consider defense, BP probably tops them both.

by ken on Jul 17, 2008 7:35 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

As long as I'm looking up BPro numbers,

Hairston is just killing his PECOTA projections. Even his 90th percentile is only a .284/.346/.412. Right now he’s at .351/.398/.495. Shows how wrong these systems can be sometimes with guys who’ve been hurt or had irregular playing time, though in Hairston’s case a lot of his performance is coming from an unmaintainably high line drive rate and babip.

by ken on Jul 17, 2008 7:41 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not that this validates his argument, but the Reds are 28-17 when Hairston starts

and the offense has averaged 5.2 R/G in his starts. Obviously it’s not all Cherry’s fault, but perhaps his witch helps the team as a whole when he plays?

It's a lousy night to be an atheist!

by Slyde on Jul 16, 2008 10:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

no im not saying he hasnt been good for this team

but im just afraid they are going to sign him to a contract extension and he’ll be our starting CF next year. and we all know that witch is only good for about 250 ABs and thats about it. im just afraid Slyde. im really afraid.

please dont shit on my dreams. i dont want shit on my dreams.

by Charlie Scrabbles on Jul 16, 2008 11:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

don't be afraid

just accept that this is in inept franchise. It is a lot easier that way. My mom grew up a White Sox’s fan, and has no expecations so she is never heart broken. I think i need to become comfortably numb.

The Dusty Path to the World Series!*

*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.

by justin007000 on Jul 16, 2008 11:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd be a lot more afraid if Wayne was still in charge.

Re-signing Cherry would be a textbook Sweaterpants move. We’ll see how Walt handles the situation, hopefully it’s different.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Jul 17, 2008 7:31 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

From a purely offensive view, I don't think this is the worst choice in the world

Obviously anyone in their right mind picks Volquez for this honor (or even Cordero), but the truth is this team wins a drastic amount of more games when Cherry’s in the lineup. Especially given how much he makes, we’re getting a lot of value for him, aren’t we? And the award is most valuable…

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Jul 17, 2008 7:35 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Mosy valuable player.....

Voltron is Most Valuable Pitcher

I called Dusty and he replied that (quote)”This is a team effort, losing all these games, but for my money the team MVP is a toss up between Junior and Corey Patterson….Patterson will surprise everyone by season’s end. I hear how the ball is coming off his bat and it won’t be long before he starts hitting. Jr.also, plus Griffey’s earned the right to MVP”.(unquote)

My Indian name is "Runs For Beer'

by Madville on Jul 18, 2008 12:22 PM EDT   0 recs

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