Game 84 Wrap
Walk-off wins are always fun, but the main question of this game is what was Dusty thinking?
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is that picture from tonight?
Hope Springs Eternal! Go Reds
by Caleb on Jun 30, 2008 10:18 PM EDT 0 recs
yep
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by Slyde on
Jun 30, 2008 10:20 PM EDT
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He aint no round the way girl
"As it says over the door to the Famous Writers' School in Connecticut: A Sullen Drunk Packing A Gat Is Not The Best Company For An Artist Finicky About His Style."
by Pops Daniels on
Jun 30, 2008 10:22 PM EDT
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I'm really afraid sometimes
Let’s say Jocko makes many necessary improvements for the club (dumping Junior, locating a catcher, finding another outfielder, shitcanning CoPat), can Dusty be trusted not to meddle and fuck it up? I’m serious. Could they, would they have the stones to fire him. They cannot think that he’s done a good job with his on-field decisions. Can they?
"As it says over the door to the Famous Writers' School in Connecticut: A Sullen Drunk Packing A Gat Is Not The Best Company For An Artist Finicky About His Style."
by Pops Daniels on Jun 30, 2008 10:21 PM EDT 0 recs
There is almost no way
they will fire Dusty before two years are up
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by Caleb on
Jun 30, 2008 10:23 PM EDT
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I think if they gave him a good roster, he'd be less likely to make these mistakes
I’d give him the benefit of the doubt since he did win so many games in SF. I don’t think he’s a good manager, but if Jock can set up a good roster and get the best hitter in the game, I think the Reds can be good in Dusty’s hands.
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by Slyde on
Jun 30, 2008 10:23 PM EDT
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Damned with faint praise
"As it says over the door to the Famous Writers' School in Connecticut: A Sullen Drunk Packing A Gat Is Not The Best Company For An Artist Finicky About His Style."
by Pops Daniels on
Jun 30, 2008 10:25 PM EDT
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Yep.
If our roster looked like this:
C: Mauer
1B: Poo-Holes
2B: Utley
3B: Wright
SS: A-Rod
RF: Berkman
CF: Hamilton
LF: Manny Ramirez
SP1: EV
SP2: Webb
SP3: Lincecum
SP4: Cliff Lee
SP5: Dan Haren
RP1: Francisco Rodriguez
RP2: Rivera
RP3: Papelbon
RP4: Coco
RP5: Joe Nathan
And a bench with Corey Patterson, Juan Castro, Paul Janish, Andy Phillips, LLM and Norris Hopper, he would still find a way to construct the lineup such that we would still lose games 1-0 and 2-0.
Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.
by Paul Householder on
Jun 30, 2008 11:16 PM EDT
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i bet alot of the players like him
to his credit he does seem like the kind of guy baseball players would want to play for. so he wont be fired unless this team is looking like it is at this time next year. which really is crap, because if i did my job at the level of competance that Dusty does his i would have been fired months ago. good thing my boss likes me, i guess.
Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.
by Charlie Scrabbles on
Jun 30, 2008 10:25 PM EDT
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I don't understand
how they could like him. If you’re Votto tonight, how could you like him? If you’re Bruce tonight, how could you like him? If you’re Dunn this season, how could you like him?
FIRE DUSTY BAKER
by Blue on
Jun 30, 2008 10:52 PM EDT
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I understand it is important to work a manager to have good people skills
but i don’t even see that. Players seem befuddled when they are out of the lineup, Freel seemed frustrated earlier this year. Or after one of Arroyo’s games telling the press that Arroyo is obvisiously hurt and he wants Arroyo to be examined before he consulted with Arroyo, and Arroyo learning about that from the press, and seeming to be surprised. I guess he isn’t on the level of telling Mike Morgen, after Morgen requested to be lifted from a game because he was tired, that he is a shitty pitcher (which he was) and that is why has a losing record. Or even removing chairs from the dugout. The players probably do like Dusty. He seems like a likable guy. Bray was impressed that Dusty came up to him and knew him in the offseason. He seduced Matt Belise in spring training, etc…
The Dusty Path to the World Series!*
*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.
by justin007000 on
Jun 30, 2008 11:26 PM EDT
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by dugout i mean clubhouse
The Dusty Path to the World Series!*
*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.
by justin007000 on
Jun 30, 2008 11:27 PM EDT
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you must feel kind of like corey patterson
"I never should have given up the animation rights."
by BobbyO on
Jul 1, 2008 12:51 PM EDT
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Slyde mentioned in the opener to the first game thread
that these next couple of weeks are going to be crucial. i think this got us off on the right foot.
Harang pitched well, making his regular one mistake pitch and otherwise showin’em who’s boss. im still rubbing my eyes about Cherry. who is this guy? he’s going to be with the Reds for the rest of year because Dusty likes him, but if he keeps hitting like this im going to like him too. i never thought i would ever agree with Dusty on anything, so history could be in the making here. but in the end, this is still a game we won in spite of Dusty. bunting Votto on the first pitch is ok, i guess, but after watching him flail at the first one you should have the sense to call it off. and pinch hitting Valentin for Bruce is going to go down in Reds history right along side pinch hitting Castro for Hamilton. good thing Griffey had that cape tucked away in the back of his locker. it was a good time to pull it out again.
Stephen A. Douglas was a great debater, but Abraham Lincoln was the Great Emancipator.
by Charlie Scrabbles on Jun 30, 2008 10:41 PM EDT 0 recs
Speaking of sample size
I wasn’t here for the gamecast but did anyone notice Grande say “Bay hits well against Burton, He is now 2-6 for his career after that hit.” He was 1-5 before that hit right? Did I miss something?
Bruce Bonser? Boone Bonser? Boot Bonser? BOOSE BONZER?
by Lakeman on
Jun 30, 2008 10:49 PM EDT
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I wonder how surprised Chris Welsh was when Brandon Phillips came to the plate hitting right-handed.
by Brian B on
Jul 1, 2008 12:07 AM EDT
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Wow I just realized I didn't have that conversation online with RR
Did anyone notice that Welsh said the Reds had three lefties coming up in the 8th, with “Dunn, Phillips, and Votto.”
by Brian B on
Jul 1, 2008 12:12 AM EDT
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Castro hit better than Hamilton...
Against that Oakland pitcher. I fergit who…
Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.
by Paul Householder on
Jun 30, 2008 11:25 PM EDT
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Dusty Dusty Dusty
His ongoing love for Corey Patterson pisses me off every game he pulls a dumb move with that guy, bringing him in every situation he seemingly shouldn’t be brought in? What did Corey Patterson save the dudes life or something, he has followed him to shit loads of teams. Orioles, Cubs, who knows who else…. maybe the Giants im not completely sure… but lets cut that goon loose or send him to Louisville to boost the ticket sales…. oh wait… he couldnt even do that… get that joke outtaaaaa here
Brent Jonathan Beck
by Brent Beck on Jul 1, 2008 12:01 AM EDT 0 recs
Dusty wasn't a manager with the Orioles
Patterson wasn’t a player with the Giants
But, yes, Patterson is embarrasing.
(PS: I like that your “signature” is actually kind of a signature.)
He's doing it. He's eating a tire!
by Man Mountain on
Jul 1, 2008 10:37 AM EDT
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I think your sig should be "Man M. Moutain, esq."
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by Slyde on
Jul 1, 2008 10:38 AM EDT
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"Moutain"
That last name actually seems plausible, given where he’s from.
by Brendanukkah on
Jul 1, 2008 10:48 AM EDT
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I think Corey is Dusty's illegitmate child
Dustylovechild?
The Dusty Path to the World Series!*
*Note this is not an endorsment of Dusty Baker.
by justin007000 on
Jul 1, 2008 12:14 PM EDT
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I am a subscriber...
To the Butt-Buddy theory with respect to Dusty’s relationship with CP.
Hey Dusty...Are you sure you're OK? You might need an MRI.
by Paul Householder on
Jul 1, 2008 12:50 PM EDT
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this probably isn't going to format correctly...
but BRef’s WPA charts after games are fun…today’s shows you a) how sweet walk off HRs are and b) how destructive it was to have Votto bunt:
Inn Out Score RoB Pt wWPA wWE Batter Pitcher Play Detail
—-------——+—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—-—--+
b 9 0 3-2 -2 2 54% 100% K Griffey M Capps Home Run (Fly Ball to Deep CF-RF); Thompson Scores
b 9 0 3-2 — 4 24% 46% D Ross M Capps Double to LF (Fly Ball to Deep LF-CF)
t 6 1 1-1 -2 2 23% 25% A LaRoche A Harang Home Run (Fly Ball to Deep CF-RF); Nady Scores
b 8 0 3-2 1- 2 14% 55% B Phillips D Marte Single to SS (Ground Ball to Weak SS); Patterson to 2B
b 8 0 3-2 12- 4 -14% 42% J Votto D Marte Strikeout Swinging
going to link it in case you want to be able to you know, actually read that
...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield
by Cy Schourek on Jul 1, 2008 10:21 AM EDT 0 recs
Inn Out Score RoB Pt wWPA wWE Batter Pitcher Play Detail +---+---+-----+---+---+----+----++---------------+---------------+--------------------------------------------------------------+ b 9 0 3-2 -2- 2 54% 100% K Griffey M Capps Home Run (Fly Ball to Deep CF-RF); Thompson Scores b 9 0 3-2 --- 4 24% 46% D Ross M Capps Double to LF (Fly Ball to Deep LF-CF) t 6 1 1-1 -2- 2 -23% 25% A LaRoche A Harang Home Run (Fly Ball to Deep CF-RF); Nady Scores b 8 0 3-2 1-- 2 14% 55% B Phillips D Marte Single to SS (Ground Ball to Weak SS); Patterson to 2B b 8 0 3-2 12- 4 -14% 42% J Votto D Marte Strikeout Swinging
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by Slyde on
Jul 1, 2008 10:30 AM EDT
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what's amazing is that when the bottom of the 9th inning started, they had a 22% chance of winning the game.
And their win expectancy was as low as 11% in the top of the 9th after CoCo put a couple of runners on. That’s quite a turn around
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by Slyde on
Jul 1, 2008 10:34 AM EDT
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