Pittsburgh Pirates @ Cincinnati Reds GameThread, Jun 30, 2008 7:10 PM EDT

Game 84 Thread: Reds vs Pirates

by Slyde on Jun 30, 2008 5:00 PM EDT in Game Threads

Pittsburgh Pirates @ Cincinnati Reds

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Monday, Jun 30, 2008, 7:10 PM EDT
Great American Ball Park

Partly cloudy with a 40-percent chance of rain. Winds blowing out to right field at 10-15 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 70.

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	W-L	ERA	WHIP	K	BB
2008 - Paul Maholm	5-5	4.41	1.39	60	28

	W-L	ERA	WHIP	K	BB
2008 - Aaron Harang	3-10	4.51	1.37	94	26

I swear the Reds can't go a series against the Pirates without facing Maholm. This will be his 12 start against the Reds in his career - he hasn't started more than 8 games against any other team. His previous starts range from very good to very bad, but his combined numbers are decent (2-3, 4.46 ERA, 52 Ks, 26 BBs, 9 HR in 66.2 IP). Basically it all comes down to how the Reds right-handed bats perform. EdE (.423/.500/.615 in 32 PAs), BP (.391/.391/.870 in 19 PAs), Ross (.400/.438/.800 in 16 PAs), and Hopper (.385/.429/.615 in 14 PAs) all have had previous success against him. Adam Dunn (.136/.367/.136 in 30 PAs) has not. Throughout his career, righties (.301/.365/.463) have hit him much better than lefties (.217/.294/.303) too.

The bad news for Harang is that he hasn't had a lot of success since his San Diego relief appearance (7.36 ERA in his last 6 starts). The good news is that he's pitched well against the Pirates over the last 3 years (outside of his first start after his SD relief appearance). He's also pitched well at home this year (3.88 ERA in 9 starts). So there's good and bad, but mostly good.

It's a big couple of weeks coming up here. Time to make some progress!

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First!

I can’t believe Adam’s ERA is higher than Maholm’s. It’s time for that to change!

by Gray on Jun 30, 2008 5:09 PM EDT 0 recs

Lineup (from Fay)

Jerry Hairston cf
Jeff Keppinger ss
Adam Dunn lf
Brandon Phillips 2b
Joey Votto 1b
Edwin Encarnacion 3b
Jay Bruce rf
David Ross c
Aaron Harang p

Interesting that he would bat Dunn third against a pitcher that owns Dunn.

I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...

by Slyde on Jun 30, 2008 5:15 PM EDT 0 recs

i just input that lineup into my crystal ball machine

and it appears we win tonight 8-3. That is good news!

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Jun 30, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up 0 recs

wouldn't a crystall ball machine

be a machine that makes crystal balls?

I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...

by Slyde on Jun 30, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up 0 recs

no

it’s a machine that acts as a crystal ball

What do you mean, "blank slate"?

by boobs on Jun 30, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up 0 recs

then what is a machine that creates crystal balls?

do they still have those?

I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...

by Slyde on Jun 30, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up 0 recs

They are made by crystal ballerinas.

by Gray on Jun 30, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up 0 recs

Thank god

we’re back to CF and SS batting first and second.

by Gray on Jun 30, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up 0 recs

Typical Dustbag blunder

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 30, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up 0 recs

Pittsburgh lineup, from C. Trent

McLouth cf
Sanchez 2b
Bay lf
Doumit 2
Nady rf
LaRoche 1b
Mientkiewicz 3b
Maholm p
Wilson ss

Yup, that’s the pitcher in the 8 hole. The Pirates are at least the third NL Central team to pull that trick this year, along with the Cardinals and Brewers. When you’re a laughingstock of a division for a couple years, I guess you get innovative. Or you get Dusty Baker.

C. Trent’s also got a really good story of how Griffey found out he was sitting today. Check it out.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 30, 2008 6:02 PM EDT up 0 recs

That Dusty quote

gives me the feeling he’s benching Dunn tomorrow night.

Lovely.

by Gray on Jun 30, 2008 6:09 PM EDT up 0 recs

It is so wrong

“This guy’s tough on lefties,” Baker said. “Dunn’s hitting pretty good, Griff hasn’t. I’m just trying to get some right-handers in there. Griff will be back tomorrow. Dunn’s struggled against the guy tomorrow (Zach Duke). Jerry and Kepp are just getting their strokes together, and Edwin (too).”

Dunn vs. Maholm: .136/.367/.136 in 30 PAs
Dunn vs. Duke: .556/.636/1.000 in 11 PAs

Griffey vs. Maholm: .278/.316/.444 in 19 PAs
Griffey vs. Duke: .167/.167/.167 in 6 PAs

Dusty really does not know what he’s doing.

I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...

by Slyde on Jun 30, 2008 6:12 PM EDT up 0 recs

Ew

Norris Hopper's #1 fan!!!

by Zach K on Jun 30, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up 0 recs

That's amazing in it's dumbness.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Jun 30, 2008 6:32 PM EDT up 0 recs

He's just making shit up, isn't he?

This season…

Dunn vs. RHP: .233/.383/.568
Dunn vs. LHP: .203/.400/.365

Griffey vs. RHP: .250/.353/.410
Griffey vs, LHP: .200/.324/.329

Maholm vs. RHB: .301/.356/.458
Maholm vs. LHB: .186/.231/.305

Duke vs. RHB: .313/.361/.457
Duke vs. LHB: .218/.295/.218

by Gray on Jun 30, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up 0 recs

Wow

Out of the mouths of babes.

But I guess Jr. must have known what he was getting himself into, asking the kid those questions. Seeing as he has kids of his own and all.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 30, 2008 6:37 PM EDT up 0 recs

It is time for this teqm to start anew - gear up and grind out some wins.

"When I got my award, I just wore my usual stuff," Dunn said.
"Was it for the Reds organization or all of baseball?" Bruce said.

by Madville on Jun 30, 2008 5:39 PM EDT 0 recs

I'm giving the Reds good karma the best way I know how

By posting a picture of Megan Fox in a Motley Crue t-shirt.

You’re welcome for the win, Harang.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 30, 2008 5:49 PM EDT 0 recs

Who is that?

by Gray on Jun 30, 2008 5:53 PM EDT up 0 recs

(starting with the blonde one, going clockwise)

Vince Neil, Mick Mars, Tommy Lee, Nikki Sixx.

by Brendanukkah on Jun 30, 2008 5:56 PM EDT up 0 recs

Crue's new song blows

Norris Hopper's #1 fan!!!

by Zach K on Jun 30, 2008 6:29 PM EDT up 0 recs

Bless you, sir.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Jun 30, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up 0 recs

ross again??

holy cow thats awesome, i think dusty is learning

"God has blessed me and I will continue to do my best for him. This is more important than anything I could do in baseball." -Albert Pujols

by shortstopv2 on Jun 30, 2008 5:53 PM EDT 0 recs

No, silly

It’s Ross with the veterans, Bako with the kids.

All Things Bubba: Because how can you not love a baseball player named Bubba?

by BubbaFan on Jun 30, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up 0 recs

And Valentin with... the left side of the infield.

"My wife ain't never ran and got me no pheasant." - Fistbands

by BK on Jun 30, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up 0 recs

I really want to see this team to move up to 4th before the ASB

Go Reds!

Norris Hopper's #1 fan!!!

by Zach K on Jun 30, 2008 6:30 PM EDT 0 recs

from CTrent's blog...

Griffey is hitting .200 against lefties this season with 17 hits in 85 at-bats and two home runs against left-handers.
“I can’t hit lefties?” Griffey asked. “How about 1996 when I hit a record 21 homers off lefties?”

“We’re not in 1996,” Baker said.

“I’m still in 96,” Griffey said.

Yeeeagh…we’re in deep shit when Dusty is the voice of reason.

...and yes, this quote is out of context and all

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Jun 30, 2008 6:59 PM EDT 0 recs

That quote wasn't Dusty, it was Darren Baker

I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...

by Slyde on Jun 30, 2008 7:00 PM EDT up 0 recs

I was wondering why Griffey would care about Dusty's dad...

so ok, a 9 year old is the voice of reason. That’s much better.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Jun 30, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up 0 recs

at least it makes more sense, right?

I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...

by Slyde on Jun 30, 2008 7:04 PM EDT up 0 recs

there's something very relaxing about watching Harang pitch

his rythm is loads of fun.

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Jun 30, 2008 7:13 PM EDT 0 recs

That's what she said?

by Gray on Jun 30, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up 0 recs

Michaels in, McLouth out

Not exactly sure why. Minky at 3B seems odd, maybe they’d be interested in trading for LLM.

by ken on Jun 30, 2008 7:14 PM EDT 0 recs

Sanchez leading off with his .262 OBP

Dusty consulted on the Pirates lineup

I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...

by Slyde on Jun 30, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up 0 recs

Dusty?

or…SATAN

...because there's already someone posing as Jacob Brumfield

by Cy Schourek on Jun 30, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up 0 recs

Yeah, but he's got a batting title

by ken on Jun 30, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up 0 recs

And Patterson was once rated the #1 prospect in all of baseball

I want a hamburger. No, a cheeseburger. I want a hot dog. I want a milkshake. I want potato chips...

by Slyde on Jun 30, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up 0 recs

True

I was just recalling the last series in ‘06 when we played Pittsburgh. Grande kept going on and on about Sanchez clinching the batting title and how it immortalized him.

by ken on Jun 30, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up 0 recs